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 Any Poorfag On Old Phone Locked Out Frm Bank Apps?, Me Still on Android 8/9 No More Updates

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tvcat
post Jun 24 2023, 04:43 PM

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Pakai secure token. FOC.
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post Jun 24 2023, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 24 2023, 04:45 PM)
how? many old aunties uncles call me today saying that they cannot use pbsecure anymore. how to help these old people? icon_question.gif
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Ask them go to the bank and request token. Or buy a cheap phone.

QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 24 2023, 04:47 PM)
You think everyone got the time to go to the bank during work days to collect it no need to work?

You are the banks and you serve your customers not the customers serve you.

How about you create a app version of your secure tokens? Just with that function nothing else? I would be happy to use the website version of the bank portal on my PC.

But how am I going to get my secure OTP/OTC now when your app don't even work at all during the weekends? shakehead.gif
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Bank had been giving out notice for a long time now, you missed that? your fault then. If your bank didn't giving early notice, just close the account and go to a better bank.
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post Jun 24 2023, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 24 2023, 04:59 PM)
i don't think old people can remember the steps of pressing the buttonsĀ  sad.gif
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How old? Cannot remember? Write the step down and print it out. There is no excuse or buy a cheap phone.

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post Jun 24 2023, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 24 2023, 05:04 PM)
Buy phone cheap. But can you confirm the app will run on phone without SIM card with only Wi-Fi? If it doesn't, thats another RM360 annually on top of phone price.
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I tried PBB with airplane mode, worked.
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post Jun 24 2023, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 24 2023, 05:13 PM)
I'm considering to move my accounts to other banks now due to the bank's inconsiderate move of abandoning their customers trust and inconveniencing them.

They're going to lose many faithful customers after this.
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Don't blame other for your own fault and bank give out token for free.
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post Jun 24 2023, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 24 2023, 05:20 PM)
I'm not blaming others, it outright unnecessary and unthoughtful of the banks to catch their customers by surprise.

The banks too much money want to giveout token generators to all their customers?
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Are you sure the bank never send out early notice to you? SMS OTP is not secure, other country still using it doesn't mean it is good to use.

No one want this hassle but the increase of scammer forced the change. Even the opening of saving account become harder, I mean harder than before but still easy for legit customer.
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Dweller @ Jun 25 2023, 09:04 AM)
I agree with TS in this case. Luckily mine is still Android 10. If not I also will be damn pissed if I cannot transact out of a sudden. Checked on my email, there's no mentioning of this android version rule sent. Probably caused I am just a CC customer.
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Maybe you are blind or ignorant or last minute person. I received multiple reminder via email and in app.

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post Jun 25 2023, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Dweller @ Jun 25 2023, 09:40 AM)
Last email from pbe@phblicbank.com.my was on 2021. No newsletter unsubscription whatsoever. doh.gif

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Maybe you marked as spam? PBB also send out notification in app. That one impossible for you to not receive it. They also show it on the online banking website. PBB tried to notify customer with so many ways and way earlier too but you missed it anyway LOL. Better confirm with PBB of your email address.
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 25 2023, 09:46 AM)
This SecureSign already existed for sometime and worked for older versions of the app so it's no excuse to disable it by surprising your users.

I've suggested earlier that you can make a Lite version of the app with a soft based token generator but with all the important risky functions of the full app disabled. That way people can still access the token/SecureSign feature while making transactions over the web browser logging into the site.

The switch from SMS TACs to SecureSign was fine but not the sudden forcing of users to adopt Android 10 above.
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Did you see the date on that email? Surprised? You kidding me?
I see who exactly is the problem now, sorry but it is totally on you and bank offer free token and free replacement of broken token too. Don't be an ignorant.
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 25 2023, 09:54 AM)
You can blame your customers all you want, later when they move all their funds out from your bank you don't cry mader fader. Are you going to send your bank's reputation down the sewer?
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Bro can you read??? PBB SENT OUT MULTIPLE EMAIL + IN APP NOTIFICATION + WEBSITE. FOR EMAIL IT IS AS EARLY AS FEB 2023, FOUR FUCKING MONTHS BRO!

I'm talking to a donkey it seem lol
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 25 2023, 10:09 AM)
Not really. How many users actively check for the latest update number on their phone or computer? It is only when there is a problem that people check, myself included.

A better way will be to notify the user that this is the last supported version when the app updates. While the app is still functional.

e.g.
1) Last supported version android 10.
2) App detects user is running android 10 during update.
3) Notifies the user to start shopping for a phone before last supported version is increased to android 11.
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Bro, app update running on the background unless you update manually. And PBB did push notification on the app. You missed that? What the bank can do when they already use multiple way multiple time to let the customer know, 4 MONTHS AHEAD? No wonder Malaysia cannot maju.
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post Jun 25 2023, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 25 2023, 10:47 AM)
You don't understand. The notification was a blanket notification for ALL users regardless of the android version they are running.

An android 8 user will receive the notification, so will an android 13 user. It places the onus on the user to check for themselves, even when the info is visible to the app via API version numbers.

This is like bulk sms notifications, most users will ignore it because, they think, it doesn't affect them.

A better way for the app developers will be to push notifications to those who WILL be affected. Do it everytime the app is started. Not a notification asking them to check for themselves if they will be affected rolleyes.gif
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No, it is better to send to all regardless of the version it is on. To spread the news better. But anyway you still missed it, that's the point here. Don't derail the point.
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post Jun 25 2023, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 25 2023, 03:22 PM)
Please don't justify bad design. If a junior programmer showed me this I would still correct him the same way.

Too many notifications and you get complaints. But not enough and you get problems like this.

The easy solution is to annoy the heck out of the 10% of users still clinging to older versions but leave the majority alone. Show them nag screens every time they start the app.

At the end of this period, you should get the numbers down to a reasonable number 2-3% if you are lucky.

Update the app with a new notification one week before the major update goes live. Ask the 2-3% to come get the hardware token.

Edit: dev bodo macam manalah nak maju
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Bad design? LMAO. The whole app is a bad design, I gave it 1 star on the play store. But no, blanket push notification is not a bad design.

You act like you know so much but in the end missed all the messages send out continuously for more than 4 months and you are telling me bank is the one to blame. Good job.

Maybe you should work harder and upgrade to priority banking but I doubt your capability LOL.

 

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