No one said anything about being unable to renter. I only said it will have potential consequences for employment in the future. Not my words, MINDEF’s.

For your reference, I referred specifically to work opportunities

He can't read or he didn't bother to read before commenting.

Can stay in hostel ba. You can always bring him along wit you but return to singapore to serve NS.

I think a friend of mine did this, now that I recalled. He was a PR, served NS, renounced.

Most want the benefit of PR but stay in malaysia. I really facepalm la ..

Hi bro, I don’t understand why you're worried.
You said NS is good, but you worried about job security?




Are you worried that your son, if he works in JB after turning 20(assuming he serves 2 years NS in Singapore at age 18), will still have to return to Singapore every year for 40 days of Operationally Ready National Service (ORNS) training until the age of 40?




Are you afraid your son will waste 2 years of NS time in Singapore?

If he has PR status, even if he works a manufacturing operator job, his salary will be higher than those without PR.

PR is very difficult to get nowadays.


My friend, after serving NS, discovered he likes this kind of disciplined job.He joined Certis Cisco Auxiliary Police Officer role and his salary is very high because he’s a PR.

He earns a basic salary of $3,300.

Plus many allowance.....

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Sep 26 2024, 01:25 AM

I'm not sure whether she is working or not at this moment, but before marrying my friend, she was a work permit holder.

But now they have a 4-year-old kid, so if she wants to become a fulltime housewife, there's nothing wrong with that, right?

Is he worried that his son, if he works in JB after turning 20 (assuming he serves 2 years NS in Singapore at age 18), will still have to return to Singapore every year for 40 days of Operationally Ready National Service (ORNS) training until the age of 40?

Even our TS also mentioned he wanted to pull the same stunt and do the daily commute…. So it’s not uncommon, but it does go contrary to the spirit of the idea of PR.

This post has been edited by hksgmy: Sep 26 2024, 07:34 AM

Thabks for your insight. Let's see how it goes.


Not job security for my kids. They would do fine. Its the parents job security. Imagine lost job so have to go back malaysia probably. Kids have to serve 2 years of NS which in a way they will lose up to Malaysian that does not need to serve. But that said I was told they do get sgd1000 /month for serving NS. something to consider.

I don’t think your jobs will be adversely affected but your future PR renewal may be subject to scrutiny and with 6 million residents, they can easily choose someone they think is more ‘loyal’ to make up for the potential cancellation of your PR renewal.

Singapore government is very small minded and vindictive one.

I don’t think you can have the cake and it - and I mean it literally and figuratively. I kinda jump into conclusion when you brought up 1k in your post. Even if you apply without your kids, I think the chances for approval is probably low.

Don’t be a contrarian. Follow the system and abide. The conclusion is not clear for a reason because it can be applied both ways.

Yes. Because the vagueness suits the government’s plan and purpose. If an ex PR turns out to be a valuable asset, exceptions will be made to retain this talent.

If an ex PR is just another run of the mill mid-tier performer, you can kiss your job prospects in Singapore goodbye.

power of 3x? if stay in SG the power is sort of diminished to some extent

By right, yes. And it should be easier if she's a Malaysian. It used to be easy. My sister in law who is a housewife gets her PR under her husband sponsorship but that was about 20 years ago. Now things has changed. They emphasize more on quality over quality. So your colleague may need to earn more. People are trying to be a PR by tagging onto spouse, while it increases the chance of being accepted but not necessarily now.

I agree. I'm not surprised quite a few of them already asked similar questions. E.g. can I stay in malaysia and apply PR at the same time, etc .. but I'm not surprised and it is a common practice for those living in JB. They want to reap the benefit of both world by sacrificing their health. That is their choice and we could only share our experience. Not trying to be lofty or whatsoever here, but I think PR should stay in Singapore. Else what's the meaning of having a PR? Like what you have said .. contrary to what PR is for

If you have a PR why are you worried? You won't be kicked out of Singapore unlike having a work pass. And, it is easier for you to get a job. Basically a PR = citizen in term of work employment. Else, you can always grab as a PR .. haha

I know a reputable person who used to be a Singaporean and gave up his citizenship to be an Australian. He came back to Sg to work but has never been offered a PR. Not sure if he didn't apply or he couldn't apply. But you're right. If you're a talent, they will take you back regardless of what you did in the past. Unless you have done something vicious or ..

Humans nature. Greed and vain. We always wanna earn more and flaunt our wealth in any mean. So they come over to sg work as blue collar and flaunt their wealth in malaysia .. buy house buy car, etc just by capitalising the exchange rate.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/j...ig-read-4363096


Nowadays, even local Singaporeans are living in Danga Bay condos, similar to how some Hong Kong residents retire in Shenzhen, China.

Once the RTS is completed, I'm sure many Singaporeans will live in Johor Bahru. Singapore especially north area Rental prices have already become a bit cheaper now.




The Menteri Besar ofJohor has visited both customs around 100 times, and now there's no more jam like before 18 March 2020.

Very good.

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Sep 26 2024, 11:09 AM