Usually no, in fact more perks in sg. My wife was transferred from My to Sg. In My, her job scope was limited to My region, when she moved to Sg her job scope became wider, she was in charge of regional work.

Likely both lol .. jailed with penalty and can never work in sg.

Thing is nobody can really give me a direct answer. I have asked both pr and citizen but different people tell me different thing.

I am not trying to gain an upper hand. Before I apply for PR I need to know what's are the pro and cons before I make a decision as it will impact 2 generations.

Renouncing or losing one's PR status without serving or completing full-time NS will
have a serious adverse impact on applications to work or study in Singapore, or for any longterm immigration facilities in Singapore, whether now or in the future. Renouncing or losing
one’s PR status without serving or completing full-time NS will also adversely affect your
family members’ applications for long-term immigration facilities, their ability to sponsor such
facilities, their renewal of Re-Entry Permits, or their applications for Singapore Citizenship.

Only work or stay long term. And, may affect 3 generations lol.

This post has been edited by malz89: Sep 25 2024, 08:20 AM

Guys...

If me and my kids apply for PR. For some reason we surrender our PR before serving NS. What will happen to my kids? I have got version:

1. Kids can never set foot in Singapore else will be jail
2. Kids can sill visit Singapore but cannot work in SG

nothing will happen.

Not true bro. I have 1st generation PR patients whose (2nd generation PR) kids cannot return to Singapore to work because they gave up their PR'ship before their NS liabilities were fully discharged.

I have a Malaysian ex-PR who did that, and is now only given a year to year employment pass to set up his own business (in joint partnership with a Singaporean).

They do make life difficult for you.

You are correct ... don't game the system. Singapore's bureaucracy is very good at the minutiae and closing any potential loopholes. Unless you're a helang, you will not find a way to squirm away from the trap they've laid for you.

Obviously, if you're a helang, many eyes can be closed and many doors will mysteriously open.

bro
read properly

he is asking when BOTH (parent and child) drop PR

ur case mention about is kid drop PR but parent still PR

different la dey

I'm answering his question regarding what will happen to his kids... Regardless whether parents drop PR or not, the kid is the one that suffers. The punishment is meted out to the kid, who has NS liabilities. 1st generation PRs like myself are exempt from NS.

This post has been edited by hksgmy: Sep 25 2024, 03:21 PM

the law said 2nd gen PR need serve
the law said 1st gen PR no need serve

and if you drop PR BEFORE NS then no problem

done

That’s a bit myopic bro, but hey, more power to you

well in SG law is law
the law didnt said 2nd gen 1 mth before drop PR must serve NS


the law only said 2nd gen PR must serve NS

for this case...he can drop PR on 2nd mth...or 3rd ....6th month BEFORE NS.
it doesnt make any different

Renouncing or losing one's PR status without serving or completing full-time NS will
have a serious adverse impact on applications to work or study in Singapore, or for any longterm immigration facilities in Singapore, whether now or in the future. Renouncing or losing
one’s PR status without serving or completing full-time NS will also adversely affect your
family members’ applications for long-term immigration facilities, their ability to sponsor such
facilities, their renewal of Re-Entry Permits, or their applications for Singapore Citizenship.

You're wrong. If you Google, you would end up with the phrase above. So, it will affect 3 generations. His kid, his grandkids and himself.

Bro, no point arguing…. If he thinks it’s ok, then good for him.

I mean yeah .. many try to look for a loophole to benefit from PR, which isn't surprising. But, to be frank, singapore is not malaysia. They are really strict on this. Else, most of us will be abusing the system like how malaysias being abused.

My application has been pending for 20 months. LOL

Is this the first time you're applying for PR in Singapore?

Did you apply on your own or with a husband/wife sponsor?

My colleague told me that his wife still hasn't gotten her PR. Their child is already 4 years old, but his wife is still holding an LTVP.

My colleague is a Singapore citizen, born and raised in Singapore.He is young too, only 31 years old.The wife is malaysian.

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Sep 25 2024, 05:12 PM

First time applying together with wife (i am main applicant) - been in SG for 7 years. 6 years on EP, now on PEP.

This post has been edited by funfunfun: Sep 25 2024, 05:14 PM

will the kids be jail? on one hand was told my kid can still come back to singapore as a tourist but can never work here. on the other hand was told he will be charge and jail

I am not here to game the system. if anything I know these are things that we should not fool around. it is for that reason I want to know more. imagine I apply for PR, if it would mean jail time for my kids or him never able to set foot on Singapore again, I have to make sure I have enough resources to stay here in singaporean permanently. i cannot be going back Malaysia and have my kids stay in Singapore all for NS. I mean where would he stay.

that phrase is quite vague. it never say you will be charge and jail. I guess at the end it would be at SG gov discretion. you might or might not be able to return to SG as a tourist. you might or might not be charge.