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post Oct 7 2007, 11:28 AM, updated 18y ago

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1. Hedgehog general information:
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2. Where can I get my pet hedgie?:
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3. Choosing your first hedgehog:
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4. Preparations for the new pet:
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5. What you need to do after you brought your pet home:
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6. Bathing/ Grooming:
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7. Food:
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8. Handling your hedgehog:
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9. Getting along with your pet:
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10. Some concerns...:
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post Oct 7 2007, 11:29 AM

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Lowyat.NET Hedgehog Owners:


LYN Nick(s) - Hedgehog's name(s)
1. smellyocheese and TAGreptiles - Amy Rose
2. faerie - Arashi and Miwako
3. hao - Pickle and Lucy
4. yrh0413 - Igel
5. dUnoZeno - Duno
6. Jiewei - Hawk
7. erni3 - Romeo
8. crazymouse_yyh - Sparky, Donut and Crinkles
9. chamelion - Mochi
10. hungheykwun - Spike, Pickle and Tog
11. ^MochI^ - mua chi (Mochi)
12. stardust - mario and mango
13. Suet - Koji
14. Reanne - Mizu and Echo
15. e1elme - Dotsie Junior
16. eblis - Max
17. Sc@ryM@ry - 3'ny'T
18. NZX - Brooke
19. babymoli and akachester - Renjiro
20. prophet007 - Stephy
21. khairizha - Lasso
22. max_cavalera - Sora and Dante
23. wongzai - BB
24. Mr. Z - Mika
25. koohii - Layzz
26. rumizu - Sheimi
27. zal - Duri
28. broken_string - Kat chai
29. neo™ - Billy
30. radical85 - BB
31. almighty - ChaCha and MongMong
32. JimBeam101 - Ichigo
33. TUICO - Heart and Qyra
34. adeng - Zara and Puteh
35. Ryo` - Junior
36. climacool - Warrior and Mimi
37. GreenNerdy - Vixie
38. Hunter_Mx and Cimredopyh - Demon Kogure
39. demonicbeing - Momo
40. bukanmain - Pookey
41. bonai - Rico
42. muchan86 - Baby Ken
43. Lil'Maine - GieGie
44. Isolationx - Leen
45. Life's Maniac - Kawaii

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post Oct 7 2007, 11:30 AM

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Hedgehog DIY

This is a guide I write: DIY hidebox for your hedgehog.

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This is another design of a hidebox, which Pickle is using now.

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DIY toy for your hedgehog using toilet roll:

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Hope you guys like it!
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post Oct 7 2007, 11:30 AM

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FAQ

Q: What should I do if I found some mites on my hedgehog?
A: Follow the steps below:
1. Buy Frontline Spray from petshops or vets.
2. Disinfect the toys and cage/container with detergent.
3. Use newspaper as the bedding and only put the food and water dish inside the cage/container.
4. Spray your hedgehog thoroughly with Frontline and avoid the face area.
5. Leave the hedgehog back in its cage/container for 3 to 4 hours and bath it after the duration so that it'll be free from Frontline.
6. Repeat Step 4 3 days later to make sure that the hedgehog is free from mites.
7. Usually the quarantine last for 7 days, remember to change the newspaper everyday. If you still find mites on the hedgehog after the quarantine period, repeat Step 4.
8. Find out the source of the mites if possible.

Q: Can hedgehogs travel? Will they get carsick?
A: Hedgehog dislikes traveling. It'll stress them out, and they might vomit or give watery poo, sometimes even weight loss. Leave your hedgehog alone if such problems occur. Let them settle down and rest first, so try to reduce the amount of traveling for hedgehogs. When traveling, use small, cozy and dark tank or container like shoebox with holes poked for air ventilation. Put thick clothes or woodshavings inside the container to make your hedgehog as comfortable as possible.

Q: Can I put 2 or more hedgehogs together?
A: No! Hedgehogs are solitary animals, meaning they love to be left alone than having companion.

Q: But I see my/my brother's/my sister's/my mother's/my father's/my grandfather's/my great grandfather's hedgehogs look fine living in group.
A: Unlike human, hedgehogs do not love companion, they don't cherish the friendship and it'll make them uncomfortable and even stress if put together. Please seperate them.

Q: But I see they didn't fight oso?
A: NO POK! NO POK!! NO POK IN RK HOUSE!!!! YOU WANT ME TO CALL THE POLICE IZZIT??? Are you blind, don't understand English or retarded? Want me to tell you how many time it's against their nature???

Q: How you know it's against the nature?
A: You have to die to know the answer.
Q: Why?
A: So you can ask God lah!
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post Oct 7 2007, 11:34 AM

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Continue from V3

Welcome to the new thread, do let me know if there's anything add to the first page rclxms.gif
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post Oct 7 2007, 07:17 PM

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congrats on the new thread.

so new pic and new enclosure for my kat chai flex.gif


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My neck long long waiting for Donut's big day as well laugh.gif
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Oct 7 2007, 07:17 PM)
congrats on the new thread.

so new pic and new enclosure for my kat chai  flex.gif
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Wah, where you bought that and how much wor? Very nice new enclosure.

QUOTE(Ryo` @ Oct 7 2007, 07:35 PM)
@Hun,
My neck long long waiting for Donut's big day as well laugh.gif
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Ah, hahah... she steadily putting on some good weight... last night was 369g liao.... tomorrow will weigh her again. I need to change her newspaper liao heheheh....

Hopefully, if she does successfully bring up healthy hoglets, she would teach them how to use litter tray lah. I find it so much cleaner now that she uses the tray.
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post Oct 7 2007, 11:22 PM

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i bought it at the pet shop behind bobo, 90 bucks.

the lady owner then even wana promote to me her glider.
i say i got already one male.

she say she got a few joey, but not at her shop at the moment.

not sure hows the condition of those gliders, i will return to her shop tomolo to have a look smile.gif
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Oct 7 2007, 11:22 PM)
i bought it at the pet shop behind bobo, 90 bucks.

the lady owner then even wana promote to me her glider.
i say i got already one male.

she say she got a few joey, but not at her shop at the moment.

not sure hows the condition of those gliders, i will return to her shop tomolo to have a look smile.gif
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where's bobo ? the one in pudu ?
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Oct 7 2007, 11:22 PM)
i bought it at the pet shop behind bobo, 90 bucks.

the lady owner then even wana promote to me her glider.
i say i got already one male.

she say she got a few joey, but not at her shop at the moment.

not sure hows the condition of those gliders, i will return to her shop tomolo to have a look smile.gif
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Is it the shop next to a Bak Kut Teh shop?? I still not sure... behind Bobo got? Hahaha.... blur lah me.
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actually not excatly behind bobo la, but its around tat area.
the pet shop is in between 2 restaurant.
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haha, hun u wanna buy that enclosure ka?
but i dun notice a petshop near bobo.. hmm
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Oh, then I know where ahahah... almost corner shop rite? But I never seen that kinda tank sold before loh.... I mean in that area. Maybe weekend I must go see see.
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Congratulatons on the new thread! new energy and enthusiasm for hedgie lovers! keep them going strong! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Oct 8 2007, 10:00 PM)
haha, hun u wanna buy that enclosure ka?
but i dun notice a petshop near bobo.. hmm
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HAhah.... yah, need to buy new tanks heheheh....
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the one i bought near bobo i tink is last unit liao
not sure whether they still got any stock

check out their joeys if ur there, i dint manage to check it today.

anyway another place near setapak tat have it is economics pet shop
but tat one quite far from my place lolz...
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wow..so fast already v4.. yawn.gif
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QUOTE(hao @ Oct 7 2007, 11:30 AM)
FAQ
Q: Can I put 2 or more hedgehogs together?
A: No! Hedgehogs are solitary animals, meaning they love to be left alone than having companion.

Q: But I see my/my brother's/my sister's/my mother's/my father's/my grandfather's/my great grandfather's hedgehogs look fine living in group.
A: Unlike human, hedgehogs do not love companion, they don't cherish the friendship and it'll make them uncomfortable and even stress if put together. Please seperate them.

Q: But I see they didn't fight oso?
A: NO POK! NO POK!! NO POK IN RK HOUSE!!!! YOU WANT ME TO CALL THE POLICE IZZIT??? Are you blind, don't understand English or retarded? Want me to tell you how many time it's against their nature???

Q: How you know it's against the nature?
A: You have to die to know the answer.
Q: Why?
A: So you can ask God lah!
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uhh i just ran into this forum... nvr had a hedgehog.. if they cant mix.. then how they breed?? just curious.. dont get angry AHHAHA tongue.gif whistling.gif
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they only meet when its time to breed else they prefer to live on their own
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i often notice this thing in my mealworm box, white in colour, shorter and wider than mealworms...i assume that is the pupa? and sometimes got beetle also -.-
do you all keep those or throw those away?
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Oct 7 2007, 11:22 PM)
i bought it at the pet shop behind bobo, 90 bucks.

the lady owner then even wana promote to me her glider.
i say i got already one male.

she say she got a few joey, but not at her shop at the moment.

not sure hows the condition of those gliders, i will return to her shop tomolo to have a look smile.gif
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whats the price for the glider?

congratulation to v4 rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 9 2007, 04:08 PM)
i often notice this thing in my mealworm box, white in colour, shorter and wider than mealworms...i assume that is the pupa? and sometimes got beetle also -.-
do you all keep those or throw those away?
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You can feed the pupa too smile.gif

It's a bit more yummy and crunchier wink.gif

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Oct 9 2007, 04:11 PM)
whats the price for the glider?

congratulation to v4  rclxms.gif
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duno, dint ask.
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 9 2007, 04:15 PM)
You can feed the pupa too smile.gif

It's a bit more yummy and crunchier wink.gif

Haha.

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i've thrown away so many of them doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
or wait them grow up into beetle? then forever no need to buy mealworms laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 9 2007, 04:15 PM)
You can feed the pupa too smile.gif

It's a bit more yummy and crunchier wink.gif

Haha.

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Do you taste before ? wink.gif
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 9 2007, 08:56 PM)
i've thrown away so many of them  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
or wait them grow up into beetle? then forever no need to buy mealworms  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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actually they do more like the beetle or pupa than mealworm...n the crunchy tongue.gif
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Donut today weighs 384g! Fast ler..... heheheh... can't wait for the big day....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 10 2007, 12:58 AM)
Donut today weighs 384g! Fast ler..... heheheh... can't wait for the big day....
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Gained 15g in 2 days, really fast leh rclxms.gif laugh.gif
Hopefully all the hoglets will be strong and healthy flex.gif

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QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 9 2007, 09:24 PM)
Do you taste before ?  wink.gif
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Haha, I didn't ler, but my pet did and told me how yummy and crunchy it is wink.gif

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QUOTE(wongzai @ Oct 9 2007, 09:43 PM)
actually they do more like the beetle or pupa than mealworm...n the crunchy  tongue.gif
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icic...shouldn't have thrown them doh.gif

anyway i notice a few drosophila thing in the mealworm box...what's happening?
do i have to move the live ones to a new box and throw the old one away?
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 10 2007, 10:56 AM)
icic...shouldn't have thrown them  doh.gif

anyway i notice a few drosophila thing in the mealworm box...what's happening?
do i have to move the live ones to a new box and throw the old one away?
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Nope, just leave them there will do.
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no money lor ... just gonna keep my rats,robos,suggies .. enough la .. but if u wanna give one for free .. can laaa .. hahaha
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Oww..
Last time always waiting for V4..
Suddenly very busy then V4 now already 3 pages.. huhu..
well anyway, congratz for the new thread...

hao..
i really likes the FAQ hehe

hun..
when is the big day?
wow, she's really putting on a lot of weight..
she must be very chubby rite now..
wanna see her pic.. pleasee

is there any slight difference between an s&p and a cinnamon..
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Oct 10 2007, 12:50 PM)
no money lor ... just gonna keep my rats,robos,suggies .. enough la .. but if u wanna give one for free .. can laaa .. hahaha
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QUOTE(rumizu @ Oct 10 2007, 12:51 PM)
Oww..
Last time always waiting for V4..
Suddenly very busy then V4 now already 3 pages.. huhu..
well anyway, congratz for the new thread...

hao..
i really likes the FAQ hehe

hun..
when is the big day?
wow, she's really putting on a lot of weight..
she must be very chubby rite now..
wanna see her pic.. pleasee

is there any slight difference between an s&p and a cinnamon..
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Today my female hedgie very naughty...pee on a hoglet shakehead.gif The hoglet very innocent huh.gif
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Henrieta..... DIED !!!! NUUUUUU!!! cry.gif

My poor hedgehog was shitting blood a bit few weeks ago but it was only on 1-2 occasion so didn't think much of it.

Then my father called up and said he saw the hedgehog lying on it's water bowl. I thought she was just playing about since she has a tendency to lie down and act lazy.

Then the next day the hedgehog was near the bowl still not moving and after giving it a prod found it dead !!!

It's nose is blackish and has some sort of puncture. It's mouth was foaming and had blood and some sort of greenish foam color.

I suspect a snake came and bit my poor Henrieta !!! Because i keep my hedgehogs at the back of the house and although it has large grills it won't stop any snakes that come from the backstreet outside ! I had some netting but i leave them off because it obstructs the hedgy wheel.

Mr moogle's seems to be fine because he has the pent house above Henrieta.

This is a totally f***ed up weekend for me and my hedgys .... i buried her opposite my house, may she rest in peace sad.gif ( my parents wanted to throw her in the rubbish bin, can you believe that !!! )

Henrieta - my favourite hedgehog. Fat hedgy that is friendly and likes to lie flat on the cool glass. You will be remembered amen cry.gif


Ps: after Henrieta's assassination by evil reptile, i called a vet to see how much it would be to take mr moogle's in for a check up, but they said keeping hedgehogs is illegal in malaysia and you need a permit or something. Is this true ? shocking.gif

I also have 1 house vacancy for any extra hegdy that needs a home since the bottom rack is empty, i have plenty of hedgy baby kitten food and an extra wheel ! smile.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Oct 10 2007, 07:43 PM)
Henrieta..... DIED !!!! NUUUUUU!!!  cry.gif

My poor hedgehog was shitting blood a bit few weeks ago but it was only on 1-2 occasion so didn't think much of it.

Then my father called up and said he saw the hedgehog lying on it's water bowl. I thought she was just playing about since she has a tendency to lie down and act lazy.

Then the next day the hedgehog was near the bowl still not moving and after giving it a prod found it dead !!!

It's nose is blackish and has some sort of puncture. It's mouth was foaming and had blood and some sort of greenish foam color.

I suspect a snake came and bit my poor Henrieta !!! Because i keep my hedgehogs at the back of the house and although it has large grills it won't stop any snakes that come from the backstreet outside ! I had some netting but i leave them off because it obstructs the hedgy wheel.

Mr moogle's seems to be fine because he has the pent house above Henrieta.

This is a totally f***ed up weekend for me and my hedgys .... i buried her opposite my house, may she rest in peace  sad.gif  ( my parents wanted to throw her in the rubbish bin, can you believe that !!! )

Henrieta - my favourite hedgehog. Fat hedgy that is friendly and likes to lie flat on the cool glass. You will be remembered amen  cry.gif
Ps: after Henrieta's assassination by evil reptile, i called a vet to see how much it would be to take mr moogle's in for a check up, but they said keeping hedgehogs is illegal in malaysia and you need a permit or something. Is this true ?  shocking.gif

I also have 1 house vacancy for any extra hegdy that needs a home since the bottom rack is empty, i have plenty of hedgy baby kitten food and an extra wheel ! smile.gif
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Oww..
Last time always waiting for V4..
Suddenly very busy then V4 now already 3 pages.. huhu..
well anyway, congratz for the new thread...

hao..
i really likes the FAQ hehe

hun..
when is the big day?
wow, she's really putting on a lot of weight..
she must be very chubby rite now..
wanna see her pic.. pleasee

is there any slight difference between an s&p and a cinnamon..
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Hahah... big day really dunno when loh... maybe next week. She is just slightly chubbier.... but she is picking her food now.... I'll get a pic of her and Crinkles for you guys to see later lah.

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Today my female hedgie very naughty...pee on a hoglet  shakehead.gif The hoglet very innocent huh.gif
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Har? Aiyoh.... sure wet with pee hahahah Got poo on the hoglet?

QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Oct 10 2007, 07:43 PM)
Henrieta..... DIED !!!! NUUUUUU!!!  cry.gif

My poor hedgehog was shitting blood a bit few weeks ago but it was only on 1-2 occasion so didn't think much of it.

Then my father called up and said he saw the hedgehog lying on it's water bowl. I thought she was just playing about since she has a tendency to lie down and act lazy.

Then the next day the hedgehog was near the bowl still not moving and after giving it a prod found it dead !!!

It's nose is blackish and has some sort of puncture. It's mouth was foaming and had blood and some sort of greenish foam color.

I suspect a snake came and bit my poor Henrieta !!! Because i keep my hedgehogs at the back of the house and although it has large grills it won't stop any snakes that come from the backstreet outside ! I had some netting but i leave them off because it obstructs the hedgy wheel.

Mr moogle's seems to be fine because he has the pent house above Henrieta.

This is a totally f***ed up weekend for me and my hedgys .... i buried her opposite my house, may she rest in peace  sad.gif  ( my parents wanted to throw her in the rubbish bin, can you believe that !!! )

Henrieta - my favourite hedgehog. Fat hedgy that is friendly and likes to lie flat on the cool glass. You will be remembered amen  cry.gif
Ps: after Henrieta's assassination by evil reptile, i called a vet to see how much it would be to take mr moogle's in for a check up, but they said keeping hedgehogs is illegal in malaysia and you need a permit or something. Is this true ?  shocking.gif

I also have 1 house vacancy for any extra hegdy that needs a home since the bottom rack is empty, i have plenty of hedgy baby kitten food and an extra wheel ! smile.gif
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I'm sorry for your lost....but i don't think a snake is the culprit. A snake would never go and harm another animal unless it feels threaten or scared. Hedgehogs also do not smell like rodents so snakes are not attracted.... most likely she died from internal bleeding as you said, she poop with blood. Are you sure got puncture wounds on the nose? Snake puncture wounds are not black.... they go infected and inflamed, becoming purplish. Greenish foam is bile, meaning she vomited her gastric juices.

This is why I don't think your hedgehog died from a snake bite:

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Their diet consists of small animals, including worms, insects, frogs, mice, and even poisonous snakes; they have a high level of immunity to viper venom. A hedgehog will bite a snake and then roll itself up as the snake strikes, repeating this procedure until the snake is dead.
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A hedgehog if feels threaten or in danger would roll up in a ball, causing the snake to not strike the face at all but the quills only and the quills are too sharp for the snake to do damage. Some hedgehogs can survive from venom but they aren't immune.... but still, a hedgehog would be in a ball than show it's full body, especially its face fully exposed to a snake.

I'm sorry for your lost but I really think it could be something internal in her.

Hedgehogs are legal.... Porcupines are not.... your vet confused with 2 species....

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Har? Aiyoh.... sure wet with pee hahahah Got poo on the hoglet?

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Moogle..
Sorry to hear about Henrieta..
So sad when someone u love so much leaves u...
I think she's resting comfortably on the rainbow now while looking down upon u..

climacool..
aiyah.. notty mummy...
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Moogle Stiltzkin, sorry for your lost T-T. But hope your Henrieta will be nice in other world there, it will remember you all the time.

About Porcupines, does anyone know that malaysia will produce huge amount of malay Porcupines? Why they breeding for that? The answer is ....... EAT... OMG.
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Moogle Stiltzkin,

Sorry for your lost. May her RIP.
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Today I heard the silliest thing.... I was at a petshop buying RM5 worth of mealworms.... then I'm quite ok with the staff, always chat with them so I told her the mealworms were for my hedgehogs, then she told me this:

"Hedgehogs, don't they die easily?"

I was like "Huh? I've been keeping for 2 years lah" and then she was shock.... she told me there used to be a customer who bought 2 hoglets.... they died in a week.... you know why? The person did not do research lah..... For 1 week, the hoglets had nothing to eat but mealworms.... worst is that the mealworms didn't eat so they had very low nutrition in them..... since mealworms are just high in fat and moisture, there was nothing to sustain the health of the hoglets, so they died.... So I told the staff that next time anyone ask about diet, tell them feed high quality catfood like RC, then feed mealworms as snacks.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 11 2007, 08:42 AM)
Moogle Stiltzkin, sorry for your lost T-T. But hope your Henrieta will be nice in other world there, it will remember you all the time.

About Porcupines, does anyone know that malaysia will produce huge amount of malay Porcupines? Why they breeding for that? The answer is ....... EAT... OMG.
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Porcupines have healthier meat than beef, lower in uric acid and also very tender. It is illegal to keep a porcupine or catch a porcupine without a permit..... but now they are farming them for the exotic meat trade so less wild porcupines become dinner.... it was in the newspapers.... summore say porcupine meat is very good for rendang.... crazy lah. Next what they farm? Bear and Tiger? doh.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 11 2007, 04:05 PM)
Porcupines have healthier meat than beef, lower in uric acid and also very tender. It is illegal to keep a porcupine or catch a porcupine without a permit..... but now they are farming them for the exotic meat trade so less wild porcupines  become dinner.... it was in the newspapers.... summore say porcupine meat is very good for rendang.... crazy lah. Next what they farm? Bear and Tiger? doh.gif
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it does not sound crazy compare to other decision they have made.. tongue.gif ..but it seems like a good job too....to reduce the illegal trade... since porcupine meat quite a popular...but somehow..ppl will still look for the wild instead of the farm...aiks...
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Ya, i read that news from newspaper 1, reduce the illegal trade is nice but hope after breeding no 1 will hunt those wild malay procupines, i ask my mum or father also havn't eat before... they eat alot alien thing when they was young biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 11 2007, 04:05 PM)
Today I heard the silliest thing.... I was at a petshop buying RM5 worth of mealworms.... then I'm quite ok with the staff, always chat with them so I told her the mealworms were for my hedgehogs, then she told me this:

"Hedgehogs, don't they die easily?"

I was like "Huh? I've been keeping for 2 years lah" and then she was shock.... she told me there used to be a customer who bought 2 hoglets.... they died in a week.... you know why? The person did not do research lah..... For 1 week, the hoglets had nothing to eat but mealworms.... worst is that the mealworms didn't eat so they had very low nutrition in them..... since mealworms are just high in fat and moisture, there was nothing to sustain the health of the hoglets, so they died.... So I told the staff that next time anyone ask about diet, tell them feed high quality catfood like RC, then feed mealworms as snacks.
wah you said like this i'm a bit worry about my hedgehog's diet already...

i feed my hedgehog ~30 kibbles per day, usually put into the food bowl around 2pm in the afternoon and she finish them by 2nd day morning...
a few mealworms everyday, the mealworms eat the RC cat food, vegies and fruits sometimes...but sometimes never feed mealworms coz she gained so much of weight since the first day -.-
with a wheel to exercise, which i wash like mad everyday...

is that ok? too much food or too little?

that day i tried to put it on the floor, hoping she can walk around, end up she stoned at a corner and don't know how to pick her up again -.- pls advice on what can i do to give her more things to do? i dowan her to be bored to death ><
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they wont be bored to death la lolz
try giving her a toilet roll to play with.

mine juz have a toilet roll but goona get a wheel for him today biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 12 2007, 01:34 AM)
wah you said like this i'm a bit worry about my hedgehog's diet already...

i feed my hedgehog ~30 kibbles per day, usually put into the food bowl around 2pm in the afternoon and she finish them by 2nd day morning...
a few mealworms everyday, the mealworms eat the RC cat food, vegies and fruits sometimes...but sometimes never feed mealworms coz she gained so much of weight since the first day -.-
with a wheel to exercise, which i wash like mad everyday...

is that ok? too much food or too little?

that day i tried to put it on the floor, hoping she can walk around, end up she stoned at a corner and don't know how to pick her up again -.- pls advice on what can i do to give her more things to do? i dowan her to be bored to death ><
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30 kibbles per day? You count before you give ar?? I feel like is too little. I feed my boy 1 tablespoon per day & he's ok. Not overweight but a lil chubby. He has wheel to run every night. So it won't get over weighted.
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Oct 12 2007, 01:37 AM)
they wont be bored to death la lolz
try giving her a toilet roll to play with.

mine juz have a toilet roll but goona get a wheel for him today biggrin.gif
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got toilet roll inside, but dunno whether she got play or not...
the toilet roll always i use to move the poo to one side laugh.gif


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QUOTE(babymoli @ Oct 12 2007, 08:10 AM)
30 kibbles per day? You count before you give ar?? I feel like is too little. I feed my boy 1 tablespoon per day & he's ok. Not overweight but a lil chubby. He has wheel to run every night. So it won't get over weighted.
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i counted during the first few days, just wanna check whether she got eat the food or not -.-
now still giving the same amount...

not sure but err 1 tablespoon is less than 30 right? unsure.gif unsure.gif

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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 12 2007, 08:37 AM)
got toilet roll inside, but dunno whether she got play or not...
the toilet roll always i use to move the poo to one side  laugh.gif


Added on October 12, 2007, 8:43 am

i counted during the first few days, just wanna check whether she got eat the food or not -.-
now still giving the same amount...

not sure but err 1 tablespoon is less than 30 right?  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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1 big tablespoon is more than 30 kibbles. Some time i give him 2 tablespoons per day. 1 morning, 1 night.
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Tablespoon is about the chinese soup spoon size.... anyway, as long you feed a balance diet of catfood and mealworms, your hedgie won't die lah..... you imagine if someone just give you plain rice for 1 week? You will have energy but can be thin and feel unwell coz no vitamins, no protein, no minerals.... If your hedgie eats fruits, good. Some hedgies do not like fruits....
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my hedgie only eat kibble sleep.gif shakehead.gif
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Hi guys,

Im getting a 3 months old salt n pepper from a breeder from garage sales, may i know roughly how big a 3 months old hedgie is? How to make sure it's 3 months old?

@ Hun,
Sorry Hun, can't wait for yout hoglet adi, the hedgie poison in my body too deep until i can't resist it >< Some more the price he offered is too attractive, now i just worry this is just too good to be true, lolz
Dear all hedgie lovers, please advice
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my hedgie escape from the toyogo box last week which prompts me to buy a new enclosure with cover for him.
but today when i bath it i notice there is a small wound on his body sad.gif

it could because he fall down after climbing up the toyogo box as i can see its a slight scratch with a little bit of swollen.

what should i do ? need to apply medicine or not ? sad.gif


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QUOTE(babymoli @ Oct 12 2007, 08:59 AM)
1 big tablespoon is more than 30 kibbles. Some time i give him 2 tablespoons per day. 1 morning, 1 night.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 12 2007, 09:57 AM)
Tablespoon is about the chinese soup spoon size.... anyway, as long you feed a balance diet of catfood and mealworms, your hedgie won't die lah..... you imagine if someone just give you plain rice for 1 week? You will have energy but can be thin and feel unwell coz no vitamins, no protein, no minerals....  If your hedgie eats fruits, good. Some hedgies do not like fruits....
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ohh..all the time i tot you all were talking about those small tablespoon sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 12 2007, 09:57 AM)
Tablespoon is about the chinese soup spoon size.... anyway, as long you feed a balance diet of catfood and mealworms, your hedgie won't die lah..... you imagine if someone just give you plain rice for 1 week? You will have energy but can be thin and feel unwell coz no vitamins, no protein, no minerals....  If your hedgie eats fruits, good. Some hedgies do not like fruits....
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Izzit must remove the seeds ??
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Oct 12 2007, 11:27 AM)
my hedgie only eat kibble sleep.gif shakehead.gif
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LOL.... most of us just feed catfood.... but they are after all insectivores... still need insects in their diet. Some people may say that mealworms can cause hedgehogs to die or get diseased... that is SO SO not true man.... anyway, if possible, introduce mealworms and crickets, once a week is even good too.

QUOTE(Ryo` @ Oct 12 2007, 03:10 PM)
Hi guys,

Im getting a 3 months old salt n pepper from a breeder from garage sales, may i know roughly how big a 3 months old hedgie is? How to make sure it's 3 months old?

@ Hun,
Sorry Hun, can't wait for yout hoglet adi, the hedgie poison in my body too deep until i can't resist it >< Some more the price he offered is too attractive, now i just worry this is just too good to be true, lolz
Dear all hedgie lovers, please advice
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3 months is still young.... but do check for mites.... alot of breeders have been saying their hedgies are "mite free" but some infact come with mites. Choose your hedgie wisely too....

QUOTE(broken_string @ Oct 12 2007, 03:43 PM)
my hedgie escape from the toyogo box last week which prompts me to buy a new enclosure with cover for him.
but today when i bath it i notice there is a small wound on his body sad.gif

it could because he fall down after climbing up the toyogo box as i can see its a slight scratch with a little bit of swollen.

what should i do ? need to apply medicine or not ? sad.gif
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No wonder.... now my toyogo boxes got a DIY mesh lid.... today I did a new one but somehow my old one looks more attractive than the new one hahaha.... wrong measurement.

Wash it with soap and water. If the wound is dry, just let it be. Do not put any cream or antibiotic, it could make it worst.

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Izzit must remove the seeds ??
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Remove seeds? You mean the fruits? Yes, most fruit seeds like apples, grapes, pear, peach and cherries are toxic and can cause death in animals.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 12 2007, 10:07 PM)
3 months is still young.... but do check for mites.... alot of breeders have been saying their hedgies are "mite free" but some infact come with mites. Choose your hedgie wisely too....
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Just brought my hedgie home last night, a male salt & pepper, haven't name him yet laugh.gif
Not sure whether he "mite free", but I find that he like to scratch his body though hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Oct 13 2007, 09:36 AM)
Just brought my hedgie home last night, a male salt & pepper, haven't name him yet laugh.gif
Not sure whether he "mite free", but I find that he like to scratch his body though hmm.gif
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Ah, its been a long time since i had been here. And its V4 already..LOL.. flex.gif

Anyway, Ryo' i think you need to check the hedgie properly. If he likes to scratch, it is most probably he is having mites problem. Do look for anything moving around its body especially the quill area. Best of all, bring him to a vet to have a full checkup first. There tend to be alot of problem buying hedgie from normal breeders...
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My Mochi RIP today...
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Oct 13 2007, 02:05 PM)
My Mochi RIP today...
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Ouch, what happened here? RIP Mochi... cry.gif
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If hedgehog scratches alot, means mites loh.... they will only scratch alot if there are mites. Very irritating and if not cured, can cause death too.

Sometimes a hedgehog can die for many reasons, it could be some respiratory disorder, maybe liver failure? Inbreeding? Won't know until you do an autopsy....

Anyway, RIP to mochi the hedgie.....

So far mine all ok (touch wood) Hope nothing happen to them.
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My Mochi RIP today...
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sorry to hear that sad.gif ...
anyway, might to share wat happening?i mean any unusual behaviour?

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Hmm really less information that i have about Hedgehog die.
But is it also about the food ??
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QUOTE(akachester @ Oct 13 2007, 10:28 AM)
Ah, its been a long time since i had been here. And its V4 already..LOL.. flex.gif

Anyway, Ryo' i think you need to check the hedgie properly. If he likes to scratch, it is most probably he is having mites problem. Do look for anything moving around its body especially the quill area. Best of all, bring him to a vet to have a full checkup first. There tend to be alot of problem buying hedgie from normal breeders...
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I've been observing him for very long time, no white dot moving around his body, no bare spot found too hmm.gif
He still very shy and stress la, if possible I don't want to make him travel again until he get use to his new house wub.gif

QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 13 2007, 05:52 PM)
If hedgehog scratches alot, means mites loh.... they will only scratch alot if there are mites. Very irritating and if not cured, can cause death too.

Sometimes a hedgehog can die for many reasons, it could be some respiratory disorder, maybe liver failure? Inbreeding? Won't know until you do an autopsy....

Anyway, RIP to mochi the hedgie.....

So far mine all ok (touch wood) Hope nothing happen to them.
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Can cause death?! Omg:shock: Actually not really scratch alot la, hmm.gif only scratch few time when he come out from the hide box and walk around, is it normal for hedgie to scratch its body? Has anyone use Frontline to cure mites before? unsure.gif

Anyway, Hun have you study zoology before, you know a lot about animals! Respect! notworthy.gif

Btw, may I know you guys feed your hedgie with what kind of cat food? I bought "Royal Canin Kitten 34" for my hedgie, is it suitable for my hedgie? The pet shop owner said it's more nutritious hmm.gif But my hedgie like it a lot though laugh.gif
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scratchh a few time is normal
study zoology kinda cool but hard to make a living here in malaysia

my housemate fren study vet course in uni but come out work as customer service at public bank doh.gif
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Look back, we already discussed how to use Frontline... You never read the 1st page?

Anyway, certain mites can cause death.... a friend's hedgie became very sick. Brought to vet, said it was mites.... next day it died.... So... it is better to prevent and treat mites fast. If you are unsure, please go to a vet that knows how to treat hedgies.

I don't study zoology.... I wish I did LOL.... studying graphic design lah.

Royal Canin so far is ok but there are better foods..... Acana, Go Natural, Orijen, Innova.... it just depends whether your hedgie likes it or not...
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Ya, already read all the instruction for few time since day one, lolz... Just want to hear some review from anyone who used it before smile.gif

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this few days found a lot of quills while cleaning the wheel...
and found even more when changing the bedding just now...
is it that my hedgehog start quilling already?

i read an article saying that i should bathe her, but last time when i tried to bathe her she seems very scared...should i bathe her then?
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How old is your hedgie?
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post Oct 15 2007, 06:02 PM

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I had her for 3 weeks, i got her when it is around 7 weeks...should be around 2 months+ already?
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post Oct 15 2007, 09:18 PM

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?? Hegdehog drop quill is normal thing?? I saw my Bo Chai drop some quill ( around 3~4 quill ) when he was young then didn't c anymore until now. Maybe need take a look carefully biggrin.gif
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don't scare me oh cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
and this few days she eat very little, and don't let me pick her up...keep wanna run away...

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Hmmm... it is normal for 2 month old hedgies to start quilling....

Read here:
http://www.mihog.org/anatomy/quilling.phtml


Added on October 15, 2007, 9:46 pmToday Donut reached 394g.... since she has not shown signs of nesting yet, I don't think she will birth so soon. More mealworms for her hahaha.

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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 15 2007, 06:02 PM)
I had her for 3 weeks, i got her when it is around 7 weeks...should be around 2 months+ already?
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She's undergoing quilling stage and it's normal. Unless bald spots start to appear then you should start worrying.
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Mother and 3 little hoglets wub.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 15 2007, 09:45 PM)
Hmmm... it is normal for 2 month old hedgies to start quilling....

Read here:
http://www.mihog.org/anatomy/quilling.phtml


Added on October 15, 2007, 9:46 pmToday Donut reached 394g.... since she has not shown signs of nesting yet, I don't think she will birth so soon. More mealworms for her hahaha.
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Congrats to your Donut smile.gif smile.gif

anyway i read the website this afternoon, just wanna hear opinion from you guys...


hao about the bald spot, i'm not sure...how big is the area normally if really got bald spot?
a few mm? or a few cm? unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif

most websites i read today suggest bathing quilling hedgehog with Aveeno shampoo...anything similar to that in malaysia?

"Mites are easily diagnosed by a vet. If your hedgehog is scratching a lot and appears to be losing quills in a concentrated area, you need to go to the vet and have him do a skin scraping. " - bald spot at a certain spot = mite infestation?


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QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 15 2007, 10:59 PM)
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Ah, so adorable.... you got 2 albinos and 1 S&P hoglet.... eyes open?

QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 15 2007, 11:04 PM)
Congrats to your Donut  smile.gif  smile.gif

anyway i read the website this afternoon, just wanna hear opinion from you guys...
hao about the bald spot, i'm not sure...how big is the area normally if really got bald spot?
a few mm? or a few cm?  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif

most websites i read today suggest bathing quilling hedgehog with Aveeno shampoo...anything similar to that in malaysia?

"Mites are easily diagnosed by a vet.  If your hedgehog is scratching a lot and appears to be losing quills in a concentrated area, you need to go to the vet and have him do a skin scraping. " - bald spot at a certain spot = mite infestation?
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Bald spots you can see very clearly... patches of skin without quills or very little quills.... but if say your hedgehog has mites all over, he will have sparse quills.... can see alot of skin lah.

Take a pic of your hedgie, maybe we can see if it is quilling or something else.

Anyway, mites... got many type of mites... got mange mites... normal quill mites.... mange mites need a skin scraping and microscope to see, normal mites can see with your own eyes. They look like moving dust particles.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 15 2007, 11:12 PM)
Ah, so adorable.... you got 2 albinos and 1 S&P hoglet.... eyes open?
Bald spots you can see very clearly... patches of skin without quills or very little quills.... but if say your hedgehog has mites all over, he will have sparse quills.... can see alot of skin lah.

Take a pic of your hedgie, maybe we can see if it is quilling or something else.

Anyway, mites... got many type of mites... got mange mites... normal quill mites.... mange mites need a skin scraping and microscope to see, normal mites can see with your own eyes. They look like moving dust particles.
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i haven't see any moving particles...luckily..

my friend took my camera away already...
will take the pic once my camera is back..
thanks in advance smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 15 2007, 11:12 PM)
Ah, so adorable.... you got 2 albinos and 1 S&P hoglet.... eyes open?

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50% openned...hehe biggrin.gif
Albino...nice, but it's eyes red colour blink.gif
Btw, how many colour do they hav ??? i saw on the hedgehogcentral...they hav kinda alots of colour e.g: S&P, CINNAMON, Albino,CHAMPAGNE, Snowflake and many more. very confusing rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
Correct me if i'm wrong smile.gif

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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 15 2007, 11:25 PM)
i haven't see any moving particles...luckily..

my friend took my camera away already...
will take the pic once my camera is back..
thanks in advance  smile.gif  smile.gif
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Your hedgie got any dandruff or flaky skin?

QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 15 2007, 11:26 PM)
50% openned...hehe biggrin.gif
Albino...nice, but it's eyes red colour  blink.gif
Btw, how many colour do they hav ??? i saw on the hedgehogcentral...they hav kinda alots of colour e.g: S&P, CINNAMON, Albino,CHAMPAGNE, Snowflake and many more. very confusing  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Correct me if i'm wrong smile.gif
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Red eyes with white quills albino lo.... your hedgehogs do not have snowflake gene so won't produce snowflake loh.... anyway, to determine the colours, you must check the quills, eye colouration, nose colouration, skin pigmentation, facial mask colour and also the colour of the parents.
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My hedgie got all the quilling symptoms hmm.gif
-lots of quills being lost
-new quills poking through the skin
-hisses and pops constantly

And the bad news is found mites on his skin too doh.gif
I've bought Frontline, but should I use it on my hedgie if he already start quilling? As I know quilling make hedgie's skin become tender and sore, I worry if I apply Frontline will make it worse, please advice smile.gif
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 15 2007, 11:04 PM)
Congrats to your Donut  smile.gif  smile.gif

anyway i read the website this afternoon, just wanna hear opinion from you guys...
hao about the bald spot, i'm not sure...how big is the area normally if really got bald spot?
a few mm? or a few cm?  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif

most websites i read today suggest bathing quilling hedgehog with Aveeno shampoo...anything similar to that in malaysia?

"Mites are easily diagnosed by a vet.  If your hedgehog is scratching a lot and appears to be losing quills in a concentrated area, you need to go to the vet and have him do a skin scraping. " - bald spot at a certain spot = mite infestation?


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you might want to try to ask from pharmacy.
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Wa very cute for climacool's baby hedgehog, let me remember when i take Bo Chai home like that size biggrin.gif.
But on that time i also scare Bo Chai away from his mother because he like cry or scream on that time. I also worry about he don't eat don't drink also. I always talk to him until he start eat and drink...
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Oct 16 2007, 03:53 AM)
you might want to try to ask from pharmacy.
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thanks...will check it out later smile.gif


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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 16 2007, 08:57 AM)
Wa very cute for climacool's baby hedgehog, let me remember when i take Bo Chai home like that size biggrin.gif.
But on that time i also scare Bo Chai away from his mother because he like cry or scream on that time. I also worry about he don't eat don't drink also. I always talk to him until he start eat and drink...
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i also always talk to my hedgie..so much until sometimes i think i'm sick -.-'''

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any picture of those newly born hoglets or urs climacool
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Here's a video of Lucy biting my bedsheet and anointing as I promised tongue.gif



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Hahaha.... that's cute of Lucy....

My hedgies all anoint when I give something new.... that day I gave them the veggie powder from Foo, all eat then later anoint. Then it was yogurt, then with papaya.... very funny LOL.
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Yea, when they smell something that's unusual or something that's new to them, they'll just anoint laugh.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 16 2007, 12:13 AM)
Your hedgie got any dandruff or flaky skin?
nope..

anyway this is the picture, snap using old phone camera dunno whether can see clearly or not =.='''

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i notice some white colour quills poking out, and those white colour looks bigger than the white/grey colour ones...


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Here's a video of Lucy biting my bedsheet and anointing as I promised tongue.gif

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cute Lucy~ it won't poo or pee on your bed?

i don't really dare to put mine on the floor, dunno how to pick her up later -.-'''

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When I use cloth to dry my Bo Chai, he also bite the cloth..... and the toilet paper roll also biggrin.gif. ( But for the toilet paper roll, he just bite and pull back..... if my finger let him bite like that.. K.O. )
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 16 2007, 03:22 PM)
nope..

anyway this is the picture, snap using old phone camera dunno whether can see clearly or not =.='''

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i notice some white colour quills poking out, and those white colour looks bigger than the white/grey colour ones...


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cute Lucy~ it won't poo or pee on your bed?

i don't really dare to put mine on the floor, dunno how to pick her up later -.-'''
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Hi GreenNerdy, I think your hedgie quilling too hmm.gif Do you notice your hedgie's attitude changed?
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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Oct 17 2007, 01:02 AM)
Hi GreenNerdy, I think your hedgie quilling too hmm.gif Do you notice your hedgie's attitude changed?
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the attitute change a lot!

- eats VERY little
- only start eating and playing when all the lights are switched off
- keep running away from me when i want to pick her up
- sometimes i hear some click sound when i sit beside the enclosure

planning to bathe her tomorrow..dunno jadi or not unsure.gif unsure.gif
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My little Warrior poo alots while bathing...Is that normal ??
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 17 2007, 01:10 AM)
the attitute change a lot!

- eats VERY little
- only start eating and playing when all the lights are switched off
- keep running away from me when i want to pick her up
- sometimes i hear some click sound when i sit beside the enclosure

planning to bathe her tomorrow..dunno jadi or not  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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Mine same also smile.gif
Just now I used Frontline on my Jr., later need to bath him liao, my hands sure kena poke kaw kaw doh.gif

QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 17 2007, 01:12 AM)
My little Warrior poo alots while bathing...Is that normal ??
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My Jr. poo a lot when I handle him, last nite he poo n pee on my bed sheet too, damn doh.gif
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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Oct 17 2007, 01:32 AM)
Mine same also smile.gif
Just now I used Frontline on my Jr., later need to bath him liao, my hands sure kena poke kaw kaw doh.gif
My Jr. poo a lot when I handle him, last nite he poo n pee on my bed sheet too, damn doh.gif
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use gloves tongue.gif
tmr i gonna ask my housemate use gloves and hold her while i wash her feet...always poo on the wheel and then step on it.... mad.gif


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QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 17 2007, 01:12 AM)
My little Warrior poo alots while bathing...Is that normal ??
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mine also...poo and dirty the water then struggle to leave sweat.gif

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Picture of my Jr. poo poo on my bed
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More pictures of my Jr.: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=13664246
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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Oct 17 2007, 01:54 AM)
Picture of my Jr. poo poo on my bed
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OMGG...still can see the poo come out from Jr. blink.gif Nice shot there thumbup.gif

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2 days ago I went to Ampang "9 Wang Yeh" temple, saw someone selling hedgie thr, 4 hedgie in 1 single hamster cage, 1 albino and 3 s&p. The albino very active running all over the cage, but the other 3 seem stressed, curl up and poking each other, and they only sell them in pair for rm500, DAMN doh.gif
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Sigh... what to do? People always like to sell animals in pairs coz they attract the human emotion. We as humans are sometimes drawn to keep things in pairs....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 17 2007, 12:03 PM)
Sigh... what to do? People always like to sell animals in pairs coz they attract the human emotion. We as humans are sometimes drawn to keep things in pairs....
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Hahaha...agree biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Oct 17 2007, 01:54 AM)
Picture of my Jr. poo poo on my bed
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More pictures of my Jr.: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=13664246
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geli haha tongue.gif tongue.gif
but my hedgie also poo like that, on my hand somemore sweat.gif sweat.gif


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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 17 2007, 12:03 PM)
Sigh... what to do? People always like to sell animals in pairs coz they attract the human emotion. We as humans are sometimes drawn to keep things in pairs....
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but human know it is best to prevent inbreeding right...
keep them in pair, later got babies, if so unlucky got some sort of mutation (touch wood), kesian the pet only.....
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Yah, human would know but not the animal.... The best is give a single sex pair but then again, hedgehogs love their solitary lives.... when I bred my hedgehogs, Crinkles got bitten on the ear.... is that a sign of love? No.... it's a sign of frustration by the female.... so anyone putting a pair together and think they are "happy", in truth, they are suffering.....

Go Garage Sales, can see 1 pair together, can see some bite wounds on the body.... low price yet no one wants....
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EDITED : My little Snowball become a ball wub.gif
Abit hard to handle it while holding camera biggrin.gif



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Wahahaha... cutie albino baby hedgie. You gonna keep any?
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hey hun
my mix left a little only leh
hope can cod this fri or sat biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 17 2007, 09:09 PM)
Wahahaha... cutie albino baby hedgie. You gonna keep any?
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Hahaha...Since my 1st time become grandpa, i keep them all smile.gif

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Here is my little Crusher biggrin.gif He/she keep moving, so very hard to get best shot icon_rolleyes.gif

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climacool, when holding your little snow look like quite paint 1 biggrin.gif
But for me, if can also keep them all biggrin.gif

But how the others baby ??? Also cute cute like that biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 17 2007, 09:37 PM)
climacool, when holding your little snow look like quite paint 1 biggrin.gif
But for me, if can also keep them all biggrin.gif

But how the others baby ??? Also cute cute like that biggrin.gif
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Yeah, another 1 also the same...

i uploaded S&P ^^ all very cute biggrin.gif
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Thank you first climacool biggrin.gif. Very nice to see your hedgehog baby picture biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 17 2007, 08:46 PM)
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cutest thing i've seen all week!
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Oct 17 2007, 10:29 PM)
cutest thing i've seen all week!
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Can i get BEST PICTURE AWARD ?? biggrin.gif
I'll upload more picts of my hoglets soon thumbup.gif
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nice baby you have climacool..Congrazt!


My MongMong ear there is bleeding, and my mate said she was attacked by ants.. sad.gif i`m trying get those ant powder to put around MongMong and CHaCha home..is that ok for them? scare they will allergic to that smell?

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Yea finally i get the big wheel already, but i feel the wheel is quite tight and can't really move fast, is it like that? ( because of 2 small wheel to make the big wheel silent or what there ) . The old 1 ( also got 1 small wheel to make silent ) move faster than this big wheel.
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mine also have 2 ball thing behind the wheel, shouldn't be a problem gua..
better don't too fast later your hedgie fly out laugh.gif laugh.gif

be prepared, mine i have to wash everyday if not very smelly sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Ya, i everytime wash my Bo Chai's running wheel everyday biggrin.gif. Hope Bo Chai still can run on that new wheel biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 17 2007, 07:28 PM)
Yah, human would know but not the animal.... The best is give a single sex pair but then again, hedgehogs love their solitary lives.... when I bred my hedgehogs, Crinkles got bitten on the ear.... is that a sign of love? No.... it's a sign of frustration by the female.... so anyone putting a pair together and think they are "happy", in truth, they are suffering.....

Go Garage Sales, can see 1 pair together, can see some bite wounds on the body.... low price yet no one wants....
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i think i am getting the one u are talking about...
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but i dun really mind cause bites can heal right
it looks pretty healthy yes...although with a few bites?

was wondering how do we know the aged of a hedgehog actually (this one is about 5 months i was told)
to me a 2 month old would looks same like 2 years old haha

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QUOTE(bledig @ Oct 19 2007, 01:59 PM)
i think i am getting the one u are talking about...
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but i dun really mind cause bites can heal right
it looks pretty healthy yes...although with a few bites?

was wondering how do we know the aged of a hedgehog actually (this one is about 5 months i was told)
to me a 2 month old would looks same like 2 years old haha
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Haha... I wouldn't trust such seller coz he got another username which he also use for pet sales, what is he hiding? Also, one main thing.... that seller said it bred twice... 5 months old? Seriously lying.... a hedgehog should on start breeding at the age of 6 months old and they should stop breeding once 2.5 years old. If he said he bred twice, meaning he started breeding them at 2 months old?

The male may be fine, he would have an average lifespan of 5 years but the female, because she bred at such a young age, she would have aged terribly and could have a shorter lifespan....

I know bites can heal but what I'm stressing is the right way to keep and the right way to sell. That seller is not releasing them separately, that proves just how desperate he is to get rid of them fast. Rm350 is also below market price even for adults.

To know the age, you can tell. A 2 month old would fit a girl's hand nicely with still some space, small and have very thin quills.... a 5 month old would have adult quills, and it would fill up the palm fully. 5 months would have reached adult age..... From the pics, they look older and overweight. The catfood is coloured, meaning low quality food.... so you are also at risk of getting a hedgehog that may have fatty liver disease or any other ailments.... As we are hedgehog owners, we strongly advice to avoid all supermarket brands or commercial brands, stick to those that have been recommended.
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Sometimes my Mimi use her tongue to lick quills and slaver stick on the quills. Is that normal ?? even my Crusher also the same sad.gif
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Sometimes my Mimi use her tongue to lick quills and slaver stick on the quills. Is that normal ?? even my Crusher also the same sad.gif
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That is called anointing.... hedgehogs all do that.
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dun u think anointing is the cute action they have? haha..
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haha, i love seeing them anoint themself... one of my hedgehog tumble and fell will busy anointing herself..
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Yah, they will work their back muscles, anoint.... sometimes very clumsy looking hahaha.
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i just got my hedgehog! smile.gif

so i left it in a cage with a lid over it. It was sleeping when he got home so i thought ok la keave the lid lightly on.

...then i go shop for the togoyo box(its huge!) + wheel + wood shaving etc. Then when i got home, the lid is open! my room door is busted and he's gone! The great escape!

So i looked all over and he's downstairs. I live in one of those houses that have holes between staircases...so i really wonder if he fell all the way down from first floor (gulp). Or he's smart enough to walk all the steps? Luckily he looks ok and active. I cought him with the carpet and put him back inside his cage.

After i caught him i think he's pissed ... he huff and puff go drink water and go hide in corner again. I will pretend to watch naruto and see if he escape again...and this time i am gonna keep my room door locked!
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bledig, next time really need careful for that biggrin.gif
For my Bo Chai, he don't scare any high place and direct jump down....
Last time i open the cage he just run out and direct jump down..... on my bed. .... lucky.
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Wow bledig...adventurous hedgehog you have there!
tot in your previous post you mentioned you getting a pair? what about the other one? hope you can give them a better home smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif


mine is afraid of height, whenever i stand up holding her in my hand she'll turn round and round with the butt sticking to my hand don't dare to jump, luckily~ laugh.gif
I think i'll name her Vixie, coz my mum keep saying her face looks like fox sweat.gif sweat.gif
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i just got my hedgehog! smile.gif

so i left it in a cage with a lid over it. It was sleeping when he got home so i thought ok la keave the lid lightly on.

...then i go shop for the togoyo box(its huge!) + wheel + wood shaving etc. Then when i got home, the lid is open! my room door is busted and he's gone! The great escape!

So i looked all over and he's downstairs. I live in one of those houses that have holes between staircases...so i really wonder if he fell all the way down from first floor (gulp). Or he's smart enough to walk all the steps? Luckily he looks ok and active. I cought him with the carpet and put him back inside his cage.

After i caught him i think he's pissed ... he huff and puff go drink water and go hide in corner again. I will pretend to watch naruto and see if he escape again...and this time  i am gonna keep my room door locked!
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So did you check for mites? Anyway, congrats on your new hedgie.

Well, how tall is your box? Hedgehogs can be escape artist.... so is best to leave the room door closed or purchase a puppy playpen fence to block your door.

I think he feel through the staircase openings lah. Do check all his limbs, hedgies can hide fractures quite well.

QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 20 2007, 05:36 PM)
Wow bledig...adventurous hedgehog you have there!
tot in your previous post you mentioned you getting a pair? what about the other one? hope you can give them a better home  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
mine is afraid of height, whenever i stand up holding her in my hand she'll turn round and round with the butt sticking to my hand don't dare to jump, luckily~  laugh.gif
I think i'll name her Vixie, coz my mum keep saying her face looks like fox  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Hedgehogs sure adventurous wan, so always be careful hehehe.

Vixie? Such a cute name. Yah, in a way look like a fox but with all those quills.... heheheh.


Anyway, just update on my Donut, she is 420g today, heavy girl.... I wonder when she will birth since I agak it to be this week but seems no nesting instinct yet... so maybe next week. Yoh, I'm so excited hahaha.
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Bleedig: congrats.. wow, ur hedgehog knows how to escape on the first day already, put some heavy stuff on the lid to prevent escapes.. biggrin.gif

Hun: Haha.. can feel ur anxiousness from your post.. haha.. wat did you provide for nesting material?
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Hahaha.... yah, very anxious loh.

I give her an old tshirt.... it is inside her hidebox now... but when I put tissue, she will carry or push the tissue into her water bowl.... so means not nesting yet I think.

Now I quite happy she litter train, really so easy to keep her now heheheh.
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lol... my mika will grab tissues from all corners and make bed for herself to sleep... but she isnt pregnant..
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Har? really? My friend said when near due date, hedgie will try and nest by grabbing any material to put in the hidebox... but my Donut push all into the water bowl, all soggy.... bleh.
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that bugger is only adventurous when i am not around! now pretend sleep again...i know he moved earlier caused i put the cat food around the cage and now all gone! (he's fat!)

btw the female got bitten so the seller not selling. He seems like a ok decent guy la smile.gif. No mites so far i can see. I can't see his leg cause he always curl. but i saw him scampering to storeroom quite fast earlier so should be ok!

This box is knee high so i wanna see how he jump haha. I won't even bother closing the box(but will close room door!). Prison break!

Wow ur hedgie is litter trained...very nice. but sometimes i wonder why this animals so stupid put all stuff in water(my sis hamsters too). When thirsty then drink what? haha

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stupidity make them look cute laugh.gif
anyway maybe they have their reason which we'll never understand unsure.gif

my Vixie always sleep underneath the wheel, never sleep in the hide box except for the first few days...
i think i understand why- coz my housemates always remove the hide box and look at her while she's sleeping sweat.gif
that's why now she clever already sleep under the wheel with one leg hang on the metal stand sometimes sweat.gif sweat.gif


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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 20 2007, 09:51 PM)

Anyway, just update on my Donut, she is 420g today, heavy girl.... I wonder when she will birth since I agak it to be this week but seems no nesting instinct yet... so maybe next week. Yoh, I'm so excited hahaha.
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 21 2007, 01:04 PM)
stupidity make them look cute  laugh.gif
anyway maybe they have their reason which we'll never understand  unsure.gif

my Vixie always sleep underneath the wheel, never sleep in the hide box except for the first few days...
i think i understand why- coz my housemates always remove the hide box and look at her while she's sleeping  sweat.gif
that's why now she clever already sleep under the wheel with one leg hang on the metal stand sometimes  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
mayb u can try turn the wheel while he asleep ... tongue.gif
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she won't mind if i turn the wheel...even i remove the wheel to wash she also don't mind..
as long as i don't remove the stand sweat.gif
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GreenNerdy so cute for your hedgehog. My Bo Chai know when I was near, so he will stay alert.....
But if midnight he come out play and don't open too bright light ( i just open the leader light there ) and he can let u touch and without alert ....
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I've DIY a wheel for Jr. but he doesn't even want to step on it laugh.gif
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Wa nice DIY wheel Ryo, but how you screw the wheel and the stand? is it with roller there ???? ( I can't find the small roller .... )
Maybe you try remove the sleeping box and see is it will step on it ? ( Midnight or do this will better, because is hedgehog enjoy play time biggrin.gif )


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Wa nice DIY wheel Ryo, but how you screw the wheel and the stand? is it with roller there ???? ( I can't find the small roller .... )
Maybe you try remove the sleeping box and see is it will step on it ? ( Midnight or do this will better, because is hedgehog enjoy play time biggrin.gif )
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I just know those roller is use for pulling windor or door that kind. But i can't found it on my area.
If roller with bearing, i think will be hard to find too.
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Hie, im new here.. jus bought my hedgie las week..
Las 2 days found som sticky thing on his quills n he keep licking that.. tot he vomit or wat den the vomit thng stick on him..... so scare. den after read thru here den onli noe he is anointing... gosh... >.<
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QUOTE(summer&sushi @ Oct 22 2007, 12:36 PM)
Hie, im new here.. jus bought my hedgie las week..
Las 2 days found som sticky thing on his quills n he keep licking that.. tot he vomit or wat den the vomit thng stick on him..... so scare. den after read thru here den onli noe he is anointing... gosh... >.<
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Dont worry smile.gif My Mimi also the same


Added on October 22, 2007, 4:34 pmMy hoglets dont like RC kitten food yet sad.gif They still drinking mother's milk. Mayb i try to feed them next day.

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Smile of satisfaction, LOLz.... laugh.gif
i must say i love your shots! xpecially the snickerin one & the one with jr. on your lap. i'd love to have mine sleep like that.

cheers on the wheel. it'll take some time before they discover the magical force of zee wheel. then you'll worry more of cleanin it as often as ya can.


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The wheel looks great. Nice DIY job, what pail did you use?

Anyway, it takes some time. Curious hedgies will run straight away, some just need to adjust and explore it before using.

Anyway, Donut is 428g today! Fat... heavy.... how long till she pops?
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hi everybody..
just come back from raya holiday..
brought sheimi back to my hometown, but he seemed stress by the travel..
and he pees a lot.. all the shavings were very wet, huhu..
but he ate a lot of kibbles.. i tried giving him banana, he licked and started anointing..

i showed sheimi to my nephews and nieces, suddenly one of my niece (who is big enough to get married) shouted so loud and asked me whether sheimi will shoot his quills.. i told her: dis is a hedgehog la, only porcupine can do that shooting thingy.. and my uncle pulak told them some stupid fact: "kecik-kecik memang la baik, nanti dia besar dia pandai la tembak.." duhhh

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anyway, congrats to all new hedgie owners.. welcome to the pokimon club <- moli, why pokimon eh?

hun..
wonder when will donut delivers the hoglets... can't wait..

climacool..
ur hoglets were very cute.. really like the pic of the mother and the hoglets..

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QUOTE(rumizu @ Oct 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
hi everybody..
just come back from raya holiday..
brought sheimi back to my hometown, but he seemed stress by the travel..
and he pees a lot.. all the shavings were very wet, huhu..
but he ate a lot of kibbles.. i tried giving him banana, he licked and started anointing..

i showed sheimi to my nephews and nieces, suddenly one of my niece (who is big enough to get married) shouted so loud and asked me whether sheimi will shoot his quills.. i told her: dis is a hedgehog la, only porcupine can do that shooting thingy.. and my uncle pulak told them some stupid fact: "kecik-kecik memang la baik, nanti dia besar dia pandai la tembak.." duhhh

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anyway, congrats to all new hedgie owners.. welcome to the pokimon club <- moli, why pokimon eh?

hun..
wonder when will donut delivers the hoglets... can't wait..

climacool..
ur hoglets were very cute.. really like the pic of the mother and the hoglets..
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Lol... They have quills right? The quills are sharp right? Don't you think they poke? They also look like the character in Pokemon right?? So end up pokimon lor. tongue.gif (This name was given by Nezumitaro). Muahahahahha....
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No wonder babymoli always say pokimon biggrin.gif now i get it .
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QUOTE(babymoli @ Oct 23 2007, 03:08 PM)
Lol... They have quills right? The quills are sharp right? Don't you think they poke? They also look like the character in Pokemon right?? So end up pokimon lor.  :P  (This name was given by Nezumitaro). Muahahahahha....
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i've been try hard 2 hold my hedgie for a week.... stil wil curl in2 small ball, not reali hurt bt pokky.... smore ends up he reali like my finger.... lick ~ lick ~ lick ~ argggghh (open his big mouth n show his long tongue)~ n BITE~~~~ :omg:
not sure whether he will reali bite in deep... so immediately pull out my finger.... izit common 4 hedgie 2 do that.... :help:



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QUOTE(rumizu @ Oct 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
hi everybody..
just come back from raya holiday..
brought sheimi back to my hometown, but he seemed stress by the travel..
and he pees a lot.. all the shavings were very wet, huhu..
but he ate a lot of kibbles.. i tried giving him banana, he licked and started anointing..

i showed sheimi to my nephews and nieces, suddenly one of my niece (who is big enough to get married) shouted so loud and asked me whether sheimi will shoot his quills.. i told her: dis is a hedgehog la, only porcupine can do that shooting thingy.. and my uncle pulak told them some stupid fact: "kecik-kecik memang la baik, nanti dia besar dia pandai la tembak.." duhhh

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anyway, congrats to all new hedgie owners.. welcome to the pokimon club <- moli, why pokimon eh?

hun..
wonder when will donut delivers the hoglets... can't wait..

climacool..
ur hoglets were very cute.. really like the pic of the mother and the hoglets..
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Thanks, the hoglets getting bigger n bigger laugh.gif They very active at midnight wub.gif
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 23 2007, 03:50 PM)
No wonder babymoli always say pokimon biggrin.gif  now i get it .
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QUOTE(summer&sushi @ Oct 23 2007, 04:11 PM)
i've been try hard 2 hold my hedgie for a week.... stil wil curl in2 small ball, not reali hurt bt pokky.... smore ends up he reali like my finger.... lick ~ lick ~ lick ~ argggghh (open his big mouth n show his long tongue)~ n BITE~~~~  ohmy.gif
not sure whether he will reali bite in deep... so immediately pull out my finger....  izit common 4 hedgie 2 do that.... icon_question.gif
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Hmm... Is your finger has other smell? Or you hold food before you hold him? So long i have held Ren, he never bite me. Only nip me once(soft type) when my finger had strong lotion smell.
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Hedgehogs only bite if your hand has a different animal smell or some weird perfume smell. I got bitten by my hedgehog when I handled my dogs and forgot to wash my hands before handling my hedgie. Other than that, have never been bitten for no reason, so far lah. Been keeping for 2 years already.
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QUOTE(neo(tm) @ Oct 22 2007, 09:20 PM)
i must say i love your shots! xpecially the snickerin one & the one with jr. on your lap. i'd love to have mine sleep like that.

cheers on the wheel. it'll take some time before they discover the magical force of zee wheel. then you'll worry more of cleanin it as often as ya can.
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Haha.. thanks laugh.gif I like the snickering one too, so cute smile.gif I don't mind cleaning it as long as he doesn't waste my effort, lol laugh.gif

QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 22 2007, 09:29 PM)
The wheel looks great. Nice DIY job, what pail did you use?

Anyway, it takes some time. Curious hedgies will run straight away, some just need to adjust and explore it before using.

Anyway, Donut is 428g today! Fat... heavy.... how long till she pops?
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I use those paint pail and cut it half, hopefully he will run on it smile.gif

QUOTE(rumizu @ Oct 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
hi everybody..
just come back from raya holiday..
brought sheimi back to my hometown, but he seemed stress by the travel..
and he pees a lot.. all the shavings were very wet, huhu..
but he ate a lot of kibbles.. i tried giving him banana, he licked and started anointing..

i showed sheimi to my nephews and nieces, suddenly one of my niece (who is big enough to get married) shouted so loud and asked me whether sheimi will shoot his quills.. i told her: dis is a hedgehog la, only porcupine can do that shooting thingy.. and my uncle pulak told them some stupid fact: "kecik-kecik memang la baik, nanti dia besar dia pandai la tembak.." duhhh

-----------------------------------------

anyway, congrats to all new hedgie owners.. welcome to the pokimon club <- moli, why pokimon eh?

hun..
wonder when will donut delivers the hoglets... can't wait..

climacool..
ur hoglets were very cute.. really like the pic of the mother and the hoglets..
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Erm... I thought porcupine also couldn't shoot quills, no? Those cartoon kinda misleading sweat.gif
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Correct, porcupines DO not shoot quills LOL.... they just come off if you get poked and the quill gets jammed into your flesh. The quills are loosely attached to the porcupine, but before they defend themselves with their quills, they would rumble at you.... they will stamp their back legs and shake their tails to make the quills sound loud, then they hiss and grunt(I think that's the sound).... if all this fails to scare of the predator, then they will charge and act fierce, if this also fails, they will point the quills at the predator. Cartoon always make them shoot out but in real life, no lah.....
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what's the medicine for mites again?
and any idea where to get it?

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Oh no...those flies lay eggs all around the mealworm box, even in the box..... doh.gif doh.gif
do you all have the problem?
i scared they lay eggs on Vixie's body only........... doh.gif doh.gif

thinking of throwing all the mealworms away, and only buy a few whenever i want to feed her mealworms ><


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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Oct 23 2007, 10:16 PM)
Haha.. thanks laugh.gif I like the snickering one too, so cute smile.gif I don't mind cleaning it as long as he doesn't waste my effort, lol laugh.gif
I use those paint pail and cut it half, hopefully he will run on it smile.gif
Erm... I thought porcupine also couldn't shoot quills, no? Those cartoon kinda misleading sweat.gif
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sometimes i mind lol...especially when stress and having exams and assignment due dates all coming together...
sleep 3 hours morning wake up see the wheel all poo poo mad.gif mad.gif

but see her play till so happy at night...ok lar...forget about it laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 24 2007, 02:26 AM)
Oh no...those flies lay eggs all around the mealworm box, even in the box..... doh.gif  doh.gif
do you all have the problem?
i scared they lay eggs on Vixie's body only........... doh.gif  doh.gif

thinking of throwing all the mealworms away, and only buy a few whenever i want to feed her mealworms ><


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sometimes i mind lol...especially when stress and having exams and assignment due dates all coming together...
sleep 3 hours morning wake up see the wheel all poo poo  mad.gif  mad.gif

but see her play till so happy at night...ok lar...forget about it laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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You have to clear dead mealworms daily to reduce the smell,
Normally flies lay eggs if your mealworm box stink or have dead mealworms in it,
Don't worry, flies won't lay eggs on Vixie unless she smell badly or has wound on her body laugh.gif

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Hedgehogs only bite if your hand has a different animal smell or some weird perfume smell. I got bitten by my hedgehog when I handled my dogs and forgot to wash my hands before handling my hedgie. Other than that, have never been bitten for no reason, so far lah. Been keeping for 2 years already.
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yea.. bt not sure whether i have diffrent smell cuz no other type of animal in my house.. even wen my mum & bro let my hedgie lick sure resulted in softbite... wil it be like puppy? .. teeth gatal den love 2 bite smthng :sweat:
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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Oct 24 2007, 08:37 AM)
Frontline spray, you can get it from vets or some pets shop
You have to clear dead mealworms daily to reduce the smell,
Normally flies lay eggs if your mealworm box stink or have dead mealworms in it,
Don't worry, flies won't lay eggs on Vixie unless she smell badly or has wound on her body laugh.gif
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QUOTE(summer&sushi @ Oct 23 2007, 04:11 PM)
i've been try hard 2 hold my hedgie for a week.... stil wil curl in2 small ball, not reali hurt bt pokky.... smore ends up he reali like my finger.... lick ~ lick ~ lick ~ argggghh (open his big mouth n show his long tongue)~ n BITE~~~~  ohmy.gif
not sure whether he will reali bite in deep... so immediately pull out my finger....  izit common 4 hedgie 2 do that.... icon_question.gif
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For my Bo Chai, if i let him lick on my hand for longer time, he will bite, maybe he think that my finger can eat like mealworm biggrin.gif.
If not he will just show up his quills and direct charge to my hand biggrin.gif
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hi.. i'm new here. got a hedgehog for about 1 year. did anybody really know about wobbly hedgehog syndrome? read through the info from internet but still dunno wat really is. i suspect my hedgie diagnose with this thing la. his left body side its like very heavy and walk very slow. i'm worried la. anybody can help me. he's about 1 year ++ albino.


Added on October 24, 2007, 6:06 pmthis is my hedgie. name him piggy zai

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wah... ur hedgie really big and fat... like a pig.. lol
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HAHAHA...yea, really look like a pig JK tongue.gif
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QUOTE(carebears_may @ Oct 24 2007, 05:33 PM)
hi.. i'm new here. got a hedgehog for about 1 year. did anybody really know about wobbly hedgehog syndrome? read through the info from internet but still dunno wat really is. i suspect my hedgie diagnose with this thing la. his left body side its like very heavy and walk very slow. i'm worried la. anybody can help me. he's about 1 year ++ albino.


Added on October 24, 2007, 6:06 pmthis is my hedgie. name him piggy zai

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Wah... so cute laugh.gif

Btw, how often can we bath our hedgie? Is it ok if once a week?
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carebears_may you picture show your hedgehog look like no quill and soft to carry it biggrin.gif

I can't hold my Bo Chai like that, not the quill problem, is when i carry him , he just want to run away biggrin.gif

Ryo, my Bo Chai bath once a week, but i feel abit smelly also, i have brush whole body, but don't know which place still got that smell

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 25 2007, 12:47 AM)
carebears_may  you picture show your hedgehog look like no quill and soft to carry it biggrin.gif

I can't hold my Bo Chai like that, not the quill problem, is when i carry him , he just want to run away  biggrin.gif

Ryo, my Bo Chai bath once a week, but i feel abit smelly also, i have brush whole body, but don't know which place still got that smell
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Yeah, even my Warrior and Mimi also the same...They doesn't like laugh.gif

I know male hedgie more smelly than female blink.gif I use to compare both smell every week tongue.gif
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But after bath the smell still there, no idea where is it, i think not the head part....
Because after bath i will carry him awhile, my hand is holding his below fur there, after that my hand got the smell..... not very strong but still got that smell biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 25 2007, 09:01 AM)
But after bath the smell still there, no idea where is it, i think not the head part....
Because after bath i will carry him awhile, my hand is holding his below fur there, after that my hand got the smell..... not very strong but still got that smell  biggrin.gif
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Hahahaha.... Guess you didn't clean the part near belly button. Normally there smell stronger. tongue.gif You must also need to clean the fur part. Need to use hand to rub rub the fur but i guess male's pee pee very strong smell. tongue.gif So kinda difficult to get away the smell. May be can try mix with baking soda. Heard it can get rid of smell on dog, so guess it will have the same effect on pokimon. laugh.gif
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did anybody really know about wobbly hedgehog syndrome? read through the info from internet but still dunno wat really is. i suspect my hedgie diagnose with WHS. his left body side its like very heavy and walk very slow, not really using his leg. i'm worried man.
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whs is the hind legs i think, not sure if it affects one side only.
help the hog exercise and make sure he can reach his food & water
if u bred him before, u shld probably let the owners who bought his offspring know so that they can look out for this


Added on October 25, 2007, 12:22 pmhere's something for us to ponder about hog being solitary. i have a pair of hogs. 1 male and 1 female. i keep them in a petroom where i used to have my sugar gliders & hamsters. in separate toyogo boxes. but the female always climbs into the male's box & they like to sleep together in the same hidebox. every time i separate them, this happens, she wil climb into the next box.

so much so that i have to put them in separate rooms now to prevent accidental mating. so is it true that hogs are solitary animals? sure we have read about hogs in the wild being solitary but i believe as they get domesticated(in terms of diet, habitat, breeding habits) after generations of breeding , we chg their behavior too.

what do you think, ppl?

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QUOTE(babymoli @ Oct 25 2007, 10:00 AM)
Hahahaha.... Guess you didn't clean the part near belly button. Normally there smell stronger. tongue.gif  You must also need to clean the fur part. Need to use hand to rub rub the fur but i guess male's pee pee very strong smell. tongue.gif  So kinda difficult to get away the smell. May be can try mix with baking soda. Heard it can get rid of smell on dog, so guess it will have the same effect on pokimon. laugh.gif
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Thank you for the info, that belly button, hmmm, biggrin.gif
next time use hand rub rub fur there biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(summer&sushi @ Oct 24 2007, 10:11 AM)
yea.. bt not sure whether i have diffrent smell cuz no other type of animal in my house.. even wen my mum & bro let my hedgie lick sure resulted in softbite... wil it be like puppy? .. teeth gatal den love 2 bite smthng  sweat.gif
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Well, maybe your friend had another type of interesting smell. Coz they do have better noses than us. anyway, when it bites, move your hand away and tap the nose or push the nose away.

QUOTE(carebears_may @ Oct 24 2007, 05:33 PM)
hi.. i'm new here. got a hedgehog for about 1 year. did anybody really know about wobbly hedgehog syndrome? read through the info from internet but still dunno wat really is. i suspect my hedgie diagnose with this thing la. his left body side its like very heavy and walk very slow. i'm worried la. anybody can help me. he's about 1 year ++ albino.


Added on October 24, 2007, 6:06 pmthis is my hedgie. name him piggy zai

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Wow, your hedgehog is quite overweight. What food have you bee feeding Zai? He could be walking slow coz body weight heavy..... do you have a wheel? Or do you let him out of his tank to walk around?

QUOTE(hungheykwun @ Oct 25 2007, 12:08 PM)
whs is the hind legs i think, not sure if it affects one side only.
help the hog exercise and make sure he can reach his food & water
if u bred him before, u shld probably let the owners who bought his offspring know so that they can look out for this


Added on October 25, 2007, 12:22 pmhere's something for us to ponder about hog being solitary. i have a pair of hogs. 1 male and 1 female. i keep them in a petroom where i used to have my sugar gliders & hamsters. in separate toyogo boxes. but the female always climbs into the male's box & they like to sleep together in the same hidebox. every time i separate them, this happens, she wil climb into the next box.

so much so that i have to put them in separate rooms now to prevent accidental mating. so is it true that hogs are solitary animals? sure we have read about hogs in the wild being solitary but i believe as they get domesticated(in terms of diet, habitat, breeding habits) after generations of breeding , we chg their behavior too.

what do you think, ppl?
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By nature, they are solitary.... but they do fight. Who knows, the female may climb in coz she wants to breed.... coz animals can smell breeding hormones. When I left my male in the female's tank for 2 weeks to breed, my male got a bitten ear. They sleep together and cuddle together like a loving couple but hedgehogs are not meant to be together.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 25 2007, 06:39 PM)
Wow, your hedgehog is quite overweight. What food have you bee feeding Zai? He could be walking slow coz body weight heavy..... do you have a wheel? Or do you let him out of his tank to walk around?
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yeah.. now he slim down a lot d lor.. tat was last time pic. tongue.gif feeding orijen mix with acana.
i do give him the wheel but nowday bcoz of the sickness, didn't play the wheel d.
he jalan just like orang tua. slow and senget sebelah to the left side.
always find some info about this sickness through internet but its like no cure. sad cry.gif

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QUOTE(carebears_may @ Oct 25 2007, 07:33 PM)
yeah.. now he slim down a lot d lor.. tat was last time pic.  tongue.gif  feeding orijen mix with acana.
i do give him the wheel but nowday bcoz of the sickness, didn't play the wheel d.
he jalan just like orang tua. slow and senget sebelah to the left side.
always find some info about this sickness through internet but its like no cure. sad  cry.gif
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Ah, that's good. The food is ok too....

Have you read this?

http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/comemeetmyfamily/wobblyhs3.html
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 25 2007, 08:10 PM)
Ah, that's good. The food is ok too....

Have you read this?

http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/comemeetmyfamily/wobblyhs3.html
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Wow nice and important info for hedgehog.... But do you guys help hedgehog nail cutting ?
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Nail cutting, I only trim the back legs coz the front nails always short, but the back legs got 2 toes always long.... I just trim during bath using normal nail cutter.
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QUOTE(carebears_may @ Oct 25 2007, 08:33 PM)
yeah.. now he slim down a lot d lor.. tat was last time pic.  tongue.gif  feeding orijen mix with acana.
i do give him the wheel but nowday bcoz of the sickness, didn't play the wheel d.
he jalan just like orang tua. slow and senget sebelah to the left side.
always find some info about this sickness through internet but its like no cure. sad  cry.gif
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and one question why did you buy an obese and old(1 year+ rite?) hedgie from unknown breeder anyway?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 25 2007, 08:50 PM)
Nail cutting, I only trim the back legs coz the front nails always short, but the back legs got 2 toes always long.... I just trim during bath using normal nail cutter.
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I see, for me i feel like hard to cutting my Bo Chai nails if i want..... Always "POP" or move here move there 1.
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and one question why did you buy an obese and old(1 year+ rite?) hedgie from unknown breeder anyway?
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no no no.. when i 1st bought him, he was not this fat.. and i think not a year+ old. should be less than a year hedgie.
i bela him for about a year d. recently only saw him got this sickness.. this hedgie was actually from Reanne.
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QUOTE(carebears_may @ Oct 26 2007, 11:21 AM)
no no no.. when i 1st bought him, he was not this fat.. and i think not a year+ old. should be less than a year hedgie.
i bela him for about a year d. recently only saw him got this sickness.. this hedgie was actually from Reanne.
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La... never say earlier..... Your hedgie just loves to eat hahahah... the last time I saw him, he was such a piggy.... if he lost weight already, then that is good.

I guess for now you can give him the best loh. He really is a happy hedgie, all the good food. If he got WHS, he won't be running on his wheel but you would need to let him walk around your home abit, with you keeping an eye on him.

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 26 2007, 09:37 PM)
La... never say earlier..... Your hedgie just loves to eat hahahah... the last time I saw him, he was such a piggy.... if he lost weight already, then that is good.

I guess for now you can give him the best loh. He really is a happy hedgie, all the good food. If he got WHS, he won't be running on his wheel but you would need to let him walk around your home abit, with you keeping an eye on him.
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yep.. tats wat i'm trying to do. but he seems walk a little bit only. dunwan to walk much. maybe should use some trick, food. hehe..
hopefully its not WHS. and thanks for caring. biggrin.gif
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Here are my hoglets... 1 months old edi rclxms.gif
May i know when the hoglet's tooth will mature ? drool.gif

P/S: Sorry for the low quality picts blush.gif

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climacool nice picture man... Is it they don't scare you and not alert when u walk close?
Last time my Bo Chai is like that, althought i play with him so long time but after become bigger, and he more stay alert ...
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May i know when the hoglet's tooth will mature ?  drool.gif

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Here are my hoglets... 1 months old edi  rclxms.gif
May i know when the hoglet's tooth will mature ?  drool.gif

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 28 2007, 01:02 AM)
climacool  nice picture man... Is it they don't scare you and not alert when u walk close? 
Last time my Bo Chai is like that, althought i play with him so long time but after become bigger, and he more stay alert ...
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They don't scared at me when i walk closer. I hold and play with them everyday biggrin.gif They are so cute wub.gif
Even now your Bo Chai still like that ??


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Hahah... cute cute. They got teeth already.... just that when you introduce solid food to them, you must soak in water first so they get used to it. At about 6 old you can give the kibbles without soaking.
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QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 28 2007, 11:07 AM)
They don't scared at me when i walk closer. I hold and play with them everyday  biggrin.gif They are so cute wub.gif
Even now your Bo Chai still like that ??
Ya my Bo Chai still like that , walk close will alert tongue.gif
But when bathing, hehe I'm the real master there. Or if midnight Bo Chai coming out having fun, i can touch him and he won't alert but just sometime biggrin.gif
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that day i notice there's some blood stains on the wheel together with the poo stains sad.gif
after checking i think one foot of my hedgie's hind legs was bleeding sad.gif
but for one day only, now ok already...

but she's not eating...eats very little since after quilling...now eat even lesser..
i wonder is anything wrong with the kibbles or something's wrong with the hedgie?

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Hi,

I've tried searching for some info regarding Orijen & Acana feeding to hedgies in this forum(and prev), but can't seem to find what I need to know blush.gif

I just want to know that between Orijen and Acana, which one is better?

Both are similar to having fresh meats & vege contents, but if not mistaken something in the percentage of something is different(I can't remember tongue.gif)

Can someone help me out?

Owh, and since Acana has separate ones for kitten & cat, which one is better to be used?

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Orijen & Acana are under the same manufacturer & IINM they are almost the same but might have different percentage on Analysis.

Here are the analysis for both brand:
Orijen Cat
Protein 45.0%
Fat 20.0%
Carbohydrate 15.0%
Moisture 10.0%
Fiber 2.0%
Calcium (min.) 1.6%
Calcium (max.) 1.8%
Phosphorus (min.) 1.3%
Phosphorus (max.) 1.5%
Omega-6 3.8%
Omega-3 0.9%
Glucosamine (min.) 500 mg/kg
Chondroitine (min.) 150 mg/kg
Microorganisms 80M cfu/kg
pH 5.0
Ash (min.) 7.0%
Ash (max.) 7.5%


Acana Kitten
Protein (min.) --- 35.0% Calcium (min.) --- 1.1%
Fat (min.) --- 22.0% Taurine (min.) --- 0.16%
Fiber (max.) --- 2.5 % Omega-6 (min.) --- 3.0 % *
Moisture (max.) --- 10.0% Omega-3 (min.) --- 0.6 % *
Magnesium (min.) --- 0.09% ME (min.) --- 4,570 kcal/kg
Carbohydrate (max.) --- 23.0%
Phosphorus (min.) --- 1.1% * Not recognized as essential by AAFCO

Acana Cat
Protein (min.) --- 32.0% Carbohydrate (max.) --- 23.0%
Fat (min.) --- 20.0% Taurine (min.) --- 0.16%
Fibre (max.) --- 2.5% Omega-6 (min.) --- 3.8 % *
Moisture (max.) --- 10.0% Omega-3 (min.) --- 1.0 % *
Magnesium (max.) --- 0.09 % ME --- 4,250 kcal/kg
* Not recognized as essential by AAFCO

If choose Acana, go for kitten. Coz it may be smaller in size compare to Cat.

p/s: If the pokimon has taken RC all the while, i think you might have trouble in introducing either this brand to him/her. My boy just doesn't bother about Orijen. End up my sumos & sakais (gerbils) take. sweat.gif

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I see... Basically it seems that Orijen is higher in Protein compared to both Acana cat & kitten.

My friend has been feeding her hedgie RC all the while, but when introduced to Orijen, her hedgie readily accepts Orijen and infact chose Orijen over RC wink.gif

Just checking on this cuz Orijen does not have smaller sample/trial pack size, but Acana do.

They have the Acana kitten & cat pack in 400gm for only RM9.00

Getting Orijen is not a problem anyway as we can share and split them up... Just wanted to know the real deal behind both of these food wink.gif

So I think the choice still favors to Orijen in this case(Although it doesn't hurt that much if we choose Acana too!) wink.gif

Thanks Babymoli!

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 03:30 PM)
I see... Basically it seems that Orijen is higher in Protein compared to both Acana cat & kitten.

My friend has been feeding her hedgie RC all the while, but when introduced to Orijen, her hedgie readily accepts Orijen and infact chose Orijen over RC wink.gif

Just checking on this cuz Orijen does not have smaller sample/trial pack size, but Acana do.

They have the Acana kitten & cat pack in 400gm for only RM9.00

Getting Orijen is not a problem anyway as we can share and split them up... Just wanted to know the real deal behind both of these food wink.gif

So I think the choice still favors to Orijen in this case(Although it doesn't hurt that much if we choose Acana too!) wink.gif

Thanks Babymoli!

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Good to hear that the pokimon accept Orijen. It's better than RC. I wish to switch to Orijen but my boy just seems don't like it. Haiz~~

If you want to get smaller pack of Orijen, you can try PM White Palace as he has repack it for pokimons' owners & IINM, it's just RM1 extra than Acana 400gm.
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QUOTE(babymoli @ Oct 29 2007, 04:05 PM)
Good to hear that the pokimon accept Orijen. It's better than RC. I wish to switch to Orijen but my boy just seems don't like it. Haiz~~

If you want to get smaller pack of Orijen, you can try PM White Palace as he has repack it for pokimons' owners & IINM, it's just RM1 extra than Acana 400gm.
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Did you try mix the Orijen and RC together and feed him? I hear that gradually introducing them with new food can work smile.gif

Yeah, I know about White Palace's offer, but it is "extremely" difficult for me to get from him... I'd rather get the 2.5kg and share it with my friend smile.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 04:24 PM)
Did you try mix the Orijen and RC together and feed him? I hear that gradually introducing them with new food can work smile.gif

Yeah, I know about White Palace's offer, but it is "extremely" difficult for me to get from him... I'd rather get the 2.5kg and share it with my friend smile.gif

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Hahahaha.. I have tried that. He chose all RC out & left the Orijen in the bowl. I even tried to cut the Orijen into RC size also he refused to take. sweat.gif I guess he's totally addicted to RC.
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Ahh see... Then he must addicted to RC...

My friend tried mixing with both too, her hedgie chose Orijen over RC...

How about juz give him Orijen and nothing else for 3-4 days straight? I'm sure he would sooner or later eat it rather than starve... Or would hedgies rather starve?? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 04:33 PM)
Ahh see... Then he must addicted to RC...

My friend tried mixing with both too, her hedgie chose Orijen over RC...

How about juz give him Orijen and nothing else for 3-4 days straight? I'm sure he would sooner or later eat it rather than starve... Or would hedgies rather starve?? sweat.gif

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Hahahaha..Tried that. He will go for water more. Only 3 - 4 kibbles he took. End up i gave up cry.gif Let him get his RC.
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Wahaha...

Then memang cannot do anything lor tongue.gif

Means he would rather starve than eat anything else sweat.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 04:45 PM)
Wahaha...

Then memang cannot do anything lor tongue.gif

Means he would rather starve than eat anything else sweat.gif

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that day i notice there's some blood stains on the wheel together with the poo stains sad.gif
after checking i think one foot of my hedgie's hind legs was bleeding  sad.gif
but for one day only, now ok already...

but she's not eating...eats very little since after quilling...now eat even lesser..
i wonder is anything wrong with the kibbles or something's wrong with the hedgie?
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Hmm.... bleeding, if foot, sometimes it's the nails... see got any breakage or not.... but if there is no wound then shouldn't be a problem.

If your hedgie is having mood swings and not eating regularly, you can give treats like crickets and mealworms.

QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 12:01 PM)
Hi,

I've tried searching for some info regarding Orijen & Acana feeding to hedgies in this forum(and prev), but can't seem to find what I need to know blush.gif

I just want to know that between Orijen and Acana, which one is better?

Both are similar to having fresh meats & vege contents, but if not mistaken something in the percentage of something is different(I can't remember tongue.gif)

Can someone help me out?

Owh, and since Acana has separate ones for kitten & cat, which one is better to be used?

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Both brands also ok coz same manufacturer.... but Orijen is better lah. My Donut and Crinkels are eating Orijen dog kibbles mixed with Acana Adult cat mixed with Eaglepack small breed dog.... Yah, I know sounds a lot, but then it keeps them from becoming choosy if you mix a few brands together when at a young age.

My Sparky, he did got a mixed variety of kibble when young but when he got older, there was one time I just gave RC only.... then now, whatever kibble you put in, he will only eat the RC and leave the rest there to rot. Now he is having his RC mixed with Nutri Source.... erm.... eating everything so ok lah, but he takes his own sweet time to finish his bowl of food.

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Orijen & Acana are under the same manufacturer & IINM they are almost the same but might have different percentage on Analysis.

Here are the analysis for both brand:
Orijen Cat
Protein  45.0%
Fat  20.0%
Carbohydrate  15.0%
Moisture  10.0%
Fiber  2.0%
Calcium (min.)  1.6%
Calcium (max.)  1.8%
Phosphorus (min.)  1.3%
Phosphorus (max.)  1.5%
Omega-6  3.8%
Omega-3  0.9%
Glucosamine (min.)  500 mg/kg
Chondroitine (min.)  150 mg/kg
Microorganisms  80M cfu/kg
pH  5.0
Ash (min.)  7.0%
Ash (max.)  7.5%
Acana Kitten
Protein (min.) --- 35.0%  Calcium (min.) --- 1.1%
Fat (min.) --- 22.0%  Taurine (min.) --- 0.16%
Fiber (max.) --- 2.5 %  Omega-6 (min.) --- 3.0 % *
Moisture (max.) --- 10.0%  Omega-3 (min.) --- 0.6 % *
Magnesium (min.) --- 0.09%  ME (min.) --- 4,570 kcal/kg
Carbohydrate (max.) --- 23.0% 
Phosphorus (min.) --- 1.1%  * Not recognized as essential by AAFCO

Acana Cat
Protein (min.) --- 32.0%  Carbohydrate (max.) --- 23.0%
Fat (min.) --- 20.0%  Taurine (min.) --- 0.16%
Fibre (max.) --- 2.5%  Omega-6 (min.) --- 3.8 % *
Moisture (max.) --- 10.0%  Omega-3 (min.) --- 1.0 % *
Magnesium (max.) --- 0.09 %  ME --- 4,250 kcal/kg
  * Not recognized as essential by AAFCO

If choose Acana, go for kitten. Coz it may be smaller in size compare to Cat.

p/s: If the pokimon has taken RC all the while, i think you might have trouble in introducing either this brand to him/her. My boy just doesn't bother about Orijen. End up my sumos & sakais (gerbils) take. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Oct 29 2007, 04:24 PM)
Did you try mix the Orijen and RC together and feed him? I hear that gradually introducing them with new food can work smile.gif

Yeah, I know about White Palace's offer, but it is "extremely" difficult for me to get from him... I'd rather get the 2.5kg and share it with my friend smile.gif

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My hoglets getting bigger and bigger. They starting to love RC kitten food tongue.gif Currently i hav 3 hoglets, how much should i feed them ?? But they still drinking mother milk biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 29 2007, 08:01 PM)
Hmm.... bleeding, if foot, sometimes it's the nails... see got any breakage or not.... but if there is no wound then shouldn't be a problem.

If your hedgie is having mood swings and not eating regularly, you can give treats like crickets and mealworms.
i'm running out of mealworms...
previous batch i thrown away coz a lot of flies' egg doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Aiyah.... flies come coz the mealworms are damp.... and smelly so of course will got flies come and lay eggs.

The proper way to keep mealworms is by keeping in a basin or deep plastic tray or ice cream box without the lid. Use a bedding of oats and feed only leafy vegies or carrot slices. No cabbage, no apples, no wet fruits or cucumbers..... Leafy veggies like sawi and kangkung are good enough for feeding mealies. Then add additional protein like fish pellets or dry cat food.

Anyway, great update!!!! Donut gave birth at around 12am I think coz I found her with 2 live hoglets at around 1am. Sad to say, she actually had 3 hoglets but she cannibalized one... so I guess that one had a defect. I managed to check the dead one's quills... looks like these hoglets may have more white quills than salt and pepper quills.

Hope both will grow healthy now.... really sayang, only 2 hahahha.... now need to wait for 2 weeks before I can handle them.

The size of new born hoglets.... they are tiny, around 2 inches or less.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 30 2007, 12:57 PM)
Aiyah.... flies come coz the mealworms are damp.... and smelly so of course will got flies come and lay eggs.

The proper way to keep mealworms is by keeping in a basin or deep plastic tray or ice cream box without the lid. Use a bedding of oats and feed only leafy vegies or carrot slices. No cabbage, no apples, no wet fruits or cucumbers..... Leafy veggies like sawi and kangkung are good enough for feeding mealies. Then add additional protein like fish pellets or dry cat food.

Anyway, great update!!!! Donut gave birth at around 12am I think coz I found her with 2 live hoglets at around 1am. Sad to say, she actually had 3 hoglets but she cannibalized one... so I guess that one had a defect. I managed to check the dead one's quills... looks like these hoglets may have more white quills than salt and pepper quills.

Hope both will grow healthy now.... really sayang, only 2 hahahha.... now need to wait for 2 weeks before I can handle them.

The size of new born hoglets.... they are tiny, around 2 inches or less.
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Hahah... thanks. I become grandma many times liao but this is 1st time to have hedgehogs born at home. Last time breeding the hedgehogs were born at my friend's place hehehehe....

Looks like I'll be keeping these 2 baby hoglets. The father is a Cinnacot, so may carry cinnacot genes, hope can produce more of this rare colour la.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 30 2007, 01:04 PM)
Hahah... thanks. I become grandma many times liao but this is 1st time to have hedgehogs born at home. Last time breeding the hedgehogs were born at my friend's place hehehehe....

Looks like I'll be keeping these 2 baby hoglets. The father is a Cinnacot, so may carry cinnacot genes, hope can produce more of this rare colour la.
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Today I took a quick peek, Donut is taking care of the 2 very well. Ah, so proud of her heheheh.... 2 little cactus balls.
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Yah lah, finally hahahah.... the 2 hoglets are under mom or behind her, Donut very protective and won't leave her babies, kept hissing and spiking at me LOL.... well, I won't disturb her for the next 2 weeks,..... later can start handling and also pictures heheheheh.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 30 2007, 12:57 PM)
Aiyah.... flies come coz the mealworms are damp.... and smelly so of course will got flies come and lay eggs.

The proper way to keep mealworms is by keeping in a basin or deep plastic tray or ice cream box without the lid. Use a bedding of oats and feed only leafy vegies or carrot slices. No cabbage, no apples, no wet fruits or cucumbers..... Leafy veggies like sawi and kangkung are good enough for feeding mealies. Then add additional protein like fish pellets or dry cat food.

Anyway, great update!!!! Donut gave birth at around 12am I think coz I found her with 2 live hoglets at around 1am. Sad to say, she actually had 3 hoglets but she cannibalized one... so I guess that one had a defect. I managed to check the dead one's quills... looks like these hoglets may have more white quills than salt and pepper quills.

Hope both will grow healthy now.... really sayang, only 2 hahahha.... now need to wait for 2 weeks before I can handle them.

The size of new born hoglets.... they are tiny, around 2 inches or less.
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aiks i tot keep in those normal plastic box can already doh.gif doh.gif
anyway where to get the oats bedding?

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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Oct 30 2007, 10:37 PM)
aiks i tot keep in those normal plastic box can already  doh.gif  doh.gif
anyway where to get the oats bedding?

Congrats to both you and Donut  wub.gif  wub.gif
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You can put in normal plastic box... but make sure the mealworms don't fill up till 1 inch deep and do not cover so no moisture is in it.

Oats, go super market and get lah. Those prestine or any brand would do.

Thanks for the congrats tongue.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 30 2007, 10:40 PM)
You can put in normal plastic box... but make sure the mealworms don't fill up till 1 inch deep and do not cover so no moisture is in it.

Oats, go super market and get lah. Those prestine or any brand would do.

Thanks for the congrats  tongue.gif
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Umm .. Hello all ..
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Congrats Hun! rclxms.gif

Hope the 2 hoglets will grow up big and strong flex.gif

Since I've bought the Acana (for some reasons I didn't think properly when buying sweat.gif ), shared some with my friend for her hedgie...

Her hedgie has eaten Orijen cat before and prefers it over RC, but then doesn't seem to touch Acana sad.gif

She's still trying to see the result today...

Lucky didn't buy a lot cuz just wanted to try, after this must get Orijen lor...

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congrats Hun,

my hedgie dun eat origen also lolz
the 2 pack i bought from hun he only dint eat sebijik pun doh.gif
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QUOTE(H3dg3h0g @ Nov 1 2007, 01:26 PM)
Umm .. Hello all ..
Gonna get my hedgehog tomorrow ..
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Congratz on the new hoglets... thumbup.gif
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Some would eat, some would not hhahah.... dunno lah, luckily now Donut and Crinkles eat Orijen dog kibble mix with Acana cat kibble and EaglePack. Sparky eating RC mixed with NutriSource.... man, so many types of food.... but me lucky.... NutriSource and EaglePack are free samples hahahaah...

Yah, don't feel shy, go to petshops and ask them for free samples.
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can ask for free sample wan? doh.gif doh.gif

previously was using RC sensible 33...
yesterday i bought RC Fit 32 as i read somewhere in this thread that that is the recommended one...
but my hedgie won't eat at all...
1 kibble also din touch -.-'''
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Hmm ..Anyone here from Ipoh ?
Hard time finding a suitable cage for a hedgehog 0.o..
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Nov 1 2007, 08:41 PM)
can ask for free sample wan?  doh.gif  doh.gif

previously was using RC sensible 33...
yesterday i bought RC Fit 32 as i read somewhere in this thread that that is the recommended one...
but my hedgie won't eat at all...
1 kibble also din touch -.-'''
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Can... NutriSouce free sample is 226g tau.... get 2 free bags is already great supply for some time hahah....

Fit 32 is lower in something, I can't remember LOL.... don't worry. Needs some time. Sure your hedgie will eat after a few days.

QUOTE(H3dg3h0g @ Nov 1 2007, 09:03 PM)
Hmm ..Anyone here from Ipoh ?
Hard time finding a suitable cage for a hedgehog 0.o..
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Cage? Hedgie don't live in cages.... they live in tanks.
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Oops .....typo .. My mind was on something else just now and didn't notice that . . . .
Are glass tanks better or plastic tanks better ?

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Oops .....typo .. My mind was on something else just now and didn't notice that . . . .
Are glass tanks better or plastic tanks better ?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 1 2007, 09:12 PM)
Can... NutriSouce free sample is 226g tau.... get 2 free bags is already great supply for some time hahah....

Fit 32 is lower in something, I can't remember LOL.... don't worry. Needs some time. Sure your hedgie will eat after a few days.

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hmm so do you mean can give the new kibbles, just leave it there until she eats?


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Oops .....typo .. My mind was on something else just now and didn't notice that . . . .
Are glass tanks better or plastic tanks better ?
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plastic tanks..
even plastic tank sometimes i find it is difficult to clean...let alone glass tanks which are much heavier...

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Congratz Hun!
Too bad you not letting go your hoglet, thought want to get another female hedgie from you, hehe...
My Jr. currently consuming RC kitten 34, will switch to Orijen soon, hopefully he will like it.

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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Nov 2 2007, 12:01 AM)
Congratz Hun!
Too bad you not letting go your hoglet, thought want to get another female hedgie from you, hehe...
My Jr. currently consuming RC kitten 34, will switch to Orijen soon, hopefully he will like it.

Photo sharing time:

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Sleep with all kind of style
cute pic~tail pointing at the man somemore laugh.gif laugh.gif



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mine, i left her there with the ball and continue with my work, after i came back she's sitting like that sweat.gif sweat.gif

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mine, i left her there with the ball and continue with my work, after i came back she's sitting like that  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Nov 2 2007, 03:07 AM)
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Wow GreenNerdy, she showing her pretty leg there for you biggrin.gif
Yesterday Bo Chai after bath he stone there for a while when i taking staff for him ..... biggrin.gif
After i ask "what are you doing there?" laugh.gif Bo Chai low down his quills shocking.gif ..... Charge ~~~~!!!! shakehead.gif
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Yah, don't feel shy, go to petshops and ask them for free samples.
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I didn't shy-shy and ask for free sample... The pet shop say, no free sample, if you wanna try, get the smallest packs, they are considered trial/sample packs sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Nov 2 2007, 12:01 AM)
Congratz Hun!
Too bad you not letting go your hoglet, thought want to get another female hedgie from you, hehe...
My Jr. currently consuming RC kitten 34, will switch to Orijen soon, hopefully he will like it.

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HAhaha.... cute cute, very cute pictures of your Jr. Aiyah, this time keep loh hehehe... actually I'm keeping only 1 lah coz 1 had been booked before it was born... anyway, the 2 hoglets are always underneath protective Donut, no chance to peek also and she made her tank very messy and smelly.... really wanna clean it but can only do in 2 weeks time. Sigh.... hope my mom don't complain bout the smell.


QUOTE(GreenNerdy @ Nov 2 2007, 03:07 AM)
mine, i left her there with the ball and continue with my work, after i came back she's sitting like that  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Nov 2 2007, 10:22 AM)
I didn't shy-shy and ask for free sample... The pet shop say, no free sample, if you wanna try, get the smallest packs, they are considered trial/sample packs sweat.gif

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I didn't specify any brand wor, I just asked for some free samples to try and give my pets lor...

They say tadak...

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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Nov 2 2007, 03:14 AM)
Lolz... My Jr. sometime also like that, will stoned there for very long time laugh.gif
How old is your hedgie? Looks very young, got mask some more  laugh.gif
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Wow GreenNerdy, she showing her pretty leg there for you biggrin.gif
Yesterday Bo Chai after bath he stone there for a while when i taking staff for him ..... biggrin.gif
After i ask "what are you doing there?" laugh.gif  Bo Chai low down his quills  shocking.gif .....  Charge ~~~~!!!!  shakehead.gif
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i dunno you all experience the same thing or not...
i realize my hedgie dislike the "S" sound...so everytime when it is out of control i'll make the sound "pssssssst~"
then it will stone there rclxm9.gif

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go carrefour get those toyoto storage box..
glass tanks are hard to clean

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Yup, something like that but definitely larger smile.gif

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Thanks for your advices ^^ notworthy.gif

Just wondering, does anyone here keep the quills of their hedgehogs?
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hi there, i just interested in this thread.. there just so cute..
anyway.. first congrate ya Hun..
erm.. wat is cannibalized.. ?
means the mama eat the baby?
erm.. last time i have pet hamster too.. the mama born baby, but dunno y she eat some.. it that means cannibalized ??
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QUOTE(kokifung @ Nov 2 2007, 09:02 PM)
hi there, i just interested in this thread.. there just so cute..
anyway.. first congrate ya Hun..
erm.. wat is cannibalized.. ?
means the mama eat the baby?
erm.. last time i have pet hamster too.. the mama born baby, but dunno y she eat some.. it that means cannibalized ??
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QUOTE(climacool @ Nov 2 2007, 09:15 PM)
Yup, same concept with hamster smile.gif
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then i heard that when the mama eat the baby, means the mama thinks that the baby is not hers because dun have her smell due to dropping hair or human go touch the baby.. true ma?
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QUOTE(kokifung @ Nov 2 2007, 09:02 PM)
hi there, i just interested in this thread.. there just so cute..
anyway.. first congrate ya Hun..
erm.. wat is cannibalized.. ?
means the mama eat the baby?
erm.. last time i have pet hamster too.. the mama born baby, but dunno y she eat some.. it that means cannibalized ??
sry been noobie, and sry if i hurt ur feeling..  notworthy.gif
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Ahh... thanks for the congratz.

Cannibalized means eating up the same species.

Why cannibalized? Here are the reasons:

1) Baby born dead, so instinct tells the female to eat up the young so won't leave a rotting body to attract predators
2) The female wasn't fed properly during pregnancy, so after the babies are born, she feels that to keep alive, she must eat one of the babies for protein to keep herself healthy for any remaining baby. Sometimes eat a few, sometimes eat all the babies.
3) 1 of the babies born is cacat.... or sick and unhealthy, so as to not waste her energy to take care of a cacat baby, she will kill it.
4) Stress, new mothers when they are stressed, they would neglect their babies... and once the babies become weak or die, instinct tells the mom to eat the babies to do clean up of the nest.

If we touch the babies before 2 weeks old, our smell would be on the babies but the mom would not kill them... she would neglect them only and not feed them so in the end also die....
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Ahh... thanks for the congratz.

Cannibalized means eating up the same species.

Why cannibalized? Here are the reasons:

1) Baby born dead, so instinct tells the female to eat up the young so won't leave a rotting body to attract predators
2) The female wasn't fed properly during pregnancy, so after the babies are born, she feels that to keep alive, she must eat one of the babies for protein to keep herself healthy for any remaining baby. Sometimes eat a few, sometimes eat all the babies.
3) 1 of the babies born is cacat.... or sick and unhealthy, so as to not waste her energy to take care of a cacat baby, she will kill it.
4) Stress, new mothers when they are stressed, they would neglect their babies... and once the babies become weak or die, instinct tells the mom to eat the babies to do clean up of the nest.

If we touch the babies before 2 weeks old, our smell would be on the babies but the mom would not kill them... she would neglect them only and not feed them so in the end also die....
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too bad ur keeping ur hoglet for this batch.  laugh.gif

looks like got to look elsewhere liao sweat.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 2 2007, 11:53 PM)
Yah loh, coz only got 2....  tongue.gif  Anyway, wait lah.... sure will have something in January  tongue.gif
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Btw, After childbirth, how long does a female hedgie have to wait to be able to conceive again ??

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QUOTE(climacool @ Nov 3 2007, 02:37 AM)
Wahh, Hun..so fast 2nd round ??tongue.gif
Btw, After childbirth, how long does a female hedgie have to wait to be able to conceive again ??

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Wahh, Hun..so fast 2nd round ??tongue.gif
Btw, After childbirth, how long does a female hedgie have to wait to be able to conceive again ??

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Hahaha... not gonna be same female loh.... same male used but different female, wanna see can produce cinnamons and cinnacots or not. These 2 are like rare colours.

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at least 4 mths rest would b nice....

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Hahaha... not gonna be same female loh.... same male used but different female, wanna see can produce cinnamons and cinnacots or not. These 2 are like rare colours.
Wah.... yours? New hedgie ah?
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Ohhhh.... looks like cinnamon wor.... is it? LOL

You paired what colour with what colour?
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If we do a DNA sequence of hedgehog of different colour, then we can know the difference between DNA sequences that code for different colours...
then do more research on crossing of the gene, then can breed lineage of different colours..

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QUOTE(wongzai @ Nov 4 2007, 08:57 PM)
at least 4 mths rest would b nice....

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It take some tool out to dig a hole for run out biggrin.gif
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Check it out nice time, very cute biggrin.gif
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hi everybody..

hun.. hope it's not too late to congratulate u.. can't wait to see their pic..

ooo.. before dis i tot it's only Sheimi who doesn't like orijen..
since i first got sheimi, i've given him RC 34..
last time bought orijen for cat from white palace..
mixed it with rc.. but sheimi only eat the rc..
and even tried to put only the orijen.. i monitored for two days..
i think he only ate maybe 1-2 piece(s) only..

wanna give him a bath today..
he smells a bit nasty.. haha..
but afraid to bath him.. never tried before..

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Congrats Hun ^^....
Hmm Got a question to ask ..
How frequently must you wash the towels or liners ?
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Normally how long does quilling process last?

I change the newspaper bedding daily, wash the towels weekly, clean the wheel twice a day, bath my hedgie weekly, haha

My hedgie accept Orijen, but he doesn't like vege or fruits

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Ryo..
Quilling process will occurs until ur hedgie reaches 10-11 weeks old..
By that time baby quills will be replaced with adult quills, which is less sharp..
Wow, Jr. must be very lucky to get u as his owner..
do u use newpaper as bedding? if u use wood shaving then u won't need to change it everyday..
i don't use towel cuz i'm quite lazy to do the washing.. smile.gif
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Anyone stay at Klang area and want to get hedgehog ? Today i go to Jalan Kapar Carrefour there i saw 2 young hedgehog there, rm 288 each, got white quill and normal quill there. I simply see is quite healty and nice, but i scare can't join with my elder hedgehog so didn't buy for it.... T-T Anyone interest just go have a look.
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 6 2007, 04:40 PM)
Anyone stay at Klang area and want to get hedgehog ? Today i go to Jalan Kapar Carrefour there i saw 2 young hedgehog there, rm 288 each, got white quill and normal quill there. I simply see is quite healty and nice, but i scare can't join with my elder hedgehog so didn't buy for it.... T-T  Anyone interest just go have a look.
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Ryo..
Quilling process will occurs until ur hedgie reaches 10-11 weeks old..
By that time baby quills will be replaced with adult quills, which is less sharp..
Wow, Jr. must be very lucky to get u as his owner..
do u use newpaper as bedding? if u use wood shaving then u won't need to change it everyday.. 
i don't use towel cuz i'm quite lazy to do the washing.. smile.gif
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But my Jr. already 13 weeks old, still dropping baby quills sweat.gif
I feel lucky to have Jr. too laugh.gif
Previously was using wood shaving as bedding, changed to newspaper after I found mites on Jr.
Don't worry, already clear all the mites with Frontline icon_rolleyes.gif
I lazy to do the washing too, but n choice la, want to make him feel as comfy as possible mah laugh.gif
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When i saw the hedgehog at carrefour there i feel like direct want to get but think twice... give up already.. T-T

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 6 2007, 04:40 PM)
Anyone stay at Klang area and want to get hedgehog ? Today i go to Jalan Kapar Carrefour there i saw 2 young hedgehog there, rm 288 each, got white quill and normal quill there. I simply see is quite healty and nice, but i scare can't join with my elder hedgehog so didn't buy for it.... T-T  Anyone interest just go have a look.
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White quills n normal quills? Albino is abnormal eh? brows.gif
Did they put them together?

QUOTE(Ryo` @ Nov 7 2007, 12:17 AM)
But my Jr. already 13 weeks old, still dropping baby quills sweat.gif
I feel lucky to have Jr. too laugh.gif
Previously was using wood shaving as bedding, changed to newspaper after I found mites on Jr.
Don't worry, already clear all the mites with Frontline icon_rolleyes.gif
I lazy to do the washing too, but n choice la, want to make him feel as comfy as possible mah laugh.gif
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My Sheimi is 4 months-old now but sometimes when he plays happily and struggles to get away from my hand, he sure drops 1-2 quill(s)..
Oww... mites.. Never experienced that before...
I put the wood shaving in an air-tight container.. smile.gif
ever tried using the cat celect? it is made from recycled paper..
but a bit pricey..

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My Mimi found the right place to poo...She poo in the hoglet's food bowl while the hoglets feasting shocking.gif ~~ naughty girl !! rclxs0.gif
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QUOTE(rumizu @ Nov 7 2007, 08:51 AM)
White quills n normal quills? Albino is abnormal eh?  brows.gif 
Did they put them together? 

Ya they put together there, but i don't know which pet shop or owner rent a place selling pet there. Hope will got nice master to take them back. If not.... i scare later got ppl always kacau them, blow them or use something point to them ...
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It's been 10 days since the birth of Donut's 2 hoglets heheheh.... Donut is ok, she is really a good and protective mom.

Donut let me peek at the hoglets now.... kinda nice colours... Both could be snowflake.... well, their grandpa Sparky is a snowflake but Donut is not..... Crinkles looks like a Cinicot but some websites he looks like Champagne... but I'm guessing under Cinicot colour and he is a snowflake too.... so now 2 hoglets... one is a salt and pepper snow flake.... got pure white quills and quite dark quills. The other is browner, and has more white quills. Of course now very hard to tell colour until it molts away the baby quills.... Another 4 days and you guys will get to see their 1st pictures heheheh.
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What kind of fruits can I feed to my hedgehog ? ...
Apples ?
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What kind of fruits can I feed to my hedgehog ? ...
Apples ?
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what he did at that time was smell2, lick2 and anoint..

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I'm new here... can I join?! ^^

I'm planning to buy a hedgie for my own bdae present... but I'm still not sure whether I can really take care of it or not... cuz this will be my first time taking care of hedgie... I got lots of question actually... cuz' I'm a student n I'm planning to put the hedgie inside my romm if I really buy it.. is it ok?

guide me please... I want hedgie so badly... T.T
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 10 2007, 12:03 PM)
Hello guys....
I'm new here... can I join?! ^^

I'm planning to buy a hedgie for my own bdae present... but I'm still  not sure whether I can really take care of it or not... cuz this will be my first time taking care of hedgie... I got lots of question actually... cuz' I'm a student n I'm planning to put the hedgie inside my romm if I really buy it.. is it ok?

guide me please... I want hedgie so badly... T.T
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1st page got so many info. And you can always Google it.

Most of us here, our knowledge did not drop down from the sky heheheh.... we also Googled. I was one of the 1st few to keep hedgies, and I read up on oversea forums, websites.... just by searching on the Net. Then after that only can share experience.
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yeah... i read it all last night for nearly 3 hours? lol
I just want to ask where can I get the hedgie? and if I put it inside my room.. can they stand air-cond room ar?

btw.. do anyone of u stay in subang jaya? just askin hehe
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 10 2007, 02:29 PM)
yeah... i read it all last night for nearly 3 hours? lol
I just want to ask where can I get the hedgie? and if I put it inside my room.. can they stand air-cond room ar?

btw.. do anyone of u stay in subang jaya? just askin hehe
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Anyway, yes, you can put in your room but then you must change the bedding often coz it is always not healthy to have a pet in your room if you do not clean often. Your air cond must be a good 23C to 25C.... do not go below 21C coz if too cold, they may hibernate and is not good for their health.
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hmm....
I think I'm gonna put it in the living room.. if no people complain then no need to put in my room better i guess hehe
hedgie wont get disturb by people right when I put in the living room?!

and and and... sorry for asking too much.. but i wonder is there any different if i buy hedgie from pet shop and breeder?
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 10 2007, 04:32 PM)
hmm....
I think I'm gonna put it in the living room.. if no people complain then no need to put in my room better i guess hehe
hedgie wont get disturb by people right when I put in the living room?!

and and and... sorry for asking too much.. but i wonder is there any different if i buy hedgie from pet shop and breeder?
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My hedgies are in my dining place.... so far no complain coz hedgies if you clean the tank often, won't have smell. They don't make noise too.

Anyway, if you get from a breeder, it would be quite tame... also mite free and better quality.... but that is if you get from a breeder lah. If you get petshop, most likely older than the age they mention, untame and also got mites. Suppliers also will try and sell to end users and the condition is similar to petshops, just slightly cheaper.
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but i suggest u get from a breeder, coz if hedgie has mites u ll gonne go crazy like me rite now.. lol biggrin.gif
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Hahaha... everyday mr.Z feels like he himself also got mites LOL....
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Just came back from searching n read all the thread under Pets Wonderland.. other than hedgie there is Sugar Glider which captured my heart when I see the pic T.T
For the moment, I'm kinda hate my self for being a pet lovers who easily get poisoned sad.gif


Since I'm studying overseas now... I think I just can afford 1 pet cuz' I got 2 tortoises at my room now XD
If I buy both sure bang my head cuz I cant resist their face n feels like play with them more than my study lol

sorry if OT... but now I'm confused which one to buy.. hedgie or SG?! haha
can anyone suggest? cuz' I'm quite easy to persuade actually... lol


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I think my hedgehog has dry skin, he keeps scratching too , but i can't see any mites on him, so i don't think its the mites problem.
Should I bath him with a few drops of olive oil ?
Haha, I thought SG needs lots of climbing spaces ?

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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 10 2007, 05:34 PM)
Just came back from searching n read all the thread under Pets Wonderland.. other than hedgie there is Sugar Glider which captured my heart when I see the pic T.T
For the moment, I'm kinda hate my self for being a pet lovers who easily get poisoned sad.gif
Since I'm studying overseas now... I think I just can afford 1 pet cuz' I got 2 tortoises at my room now XD
If I buy both sure bang my head cuz I cant resist their face n feels like play with them more than my study lol

sorry if OT... but now I'm confused which one to buy.. hedgie or SG?! haha
can anyone suggest? cuz' I'm quite easy to persuade actually... lol
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QUOTE(H3dg3h0g @ Nov 10 2007, 06:00 PM)
I think my hedgehog has dry skin, he keeps scratching too , but i can't see any mites on him, so i don't think its the mites problem.
Should I bath him with a few drops of olive oil ?
Haha, I thought SG needs lots of climbing spaces ?
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I know which I'm gonna buy now...
this noon while studying downstairs I kept thinking n finally my mind made it decision... XD

for now I think I just can afford to buy hedgie.. cuz' it doesn't need big space and not take hard to take care... bout SG... will buy it later after I finish my study n become more mature then just buy it... hehe

now... can someone tell me where to buy a hedgie? I prefer buy from breeder better than pet shop i guess... and since I will be having my exam next 2 weeks I want to buy it end of the month.. can someone tell me where to find the breeder? thnks!

crazymouse_yyh : study in Taylor College now and there still 2 more years to graduate... T.T i really wan to fast fast finish my study lol
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There are a few breeders here Hehehe... I'm also one but I do not advertise.... still, we cannot discuss buying and selling pets here so best you PM people.

DO look at Garage Sales.... there are a few people selling hedgehogs there. We also cannot link sales here so go and have a look.

Hedgies are well, easier to keep than gliders. I know coz I got both hahah.
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I think I need to start counting money to buy hedgie's things.... XD
gosh!! I can't wait to see my 1st hedgie!!! sooooo excited now!! lol

btw... how come only crazymouse_yyh replied me this whole day? I felt like only both of us chatting to each other... XD
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 10 2007, 08:59 PM)
I know which I'm gonna buy now...
this noon while studying downstairs I kept thinking n finally my mind made it decision... XD

for now I think I just can afford to buy hedgie.. cuz' it doesn't need big space and not take hard to take care... bout SG... will buy it later after I finish my study n become more mature then just buy it... hehe

now... can someone tell me where to buy a hedgie? I prefer buy from breeder better than pet shop i guess... and since I will be having my exam next 2 weeks I want to buy it end of the month.. can someone tell me where to find the breeder? thnks!

crazymouse_yyh : study in Taylor College now and there still 2 more years to graduate... T.T i really wan to fast fast finish my study lol
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Look around LYN and you'll easily find a few breeder wink.gif, . Theres few breeder now compared to a few times back where its quite difficult to get one. I love hedgehog coz it suits me. They are cute, but at the same time independent, they prefer their own space, doesn't need constant companionship and attention, not too fragile, knows how to defend themselves and very easy to take care. Basically owning a hedgie you just need to feed them once or twice a day and clean their cage once every +-2 weeks.
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^ thanks for the brief explanation... hehe
I will buy the hoglet when there's stock available XD

ehrm... can tell me what should I prepare for hoglet?
and what is the average total price for all the things?
thnks!
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ah, here we go again, previously i wrote a whole lot of details to other member who pmed me for the things..

Basically, cage (toyogo box type), water supply (bowl/bottle), bedding (delikate + breeder celect), food (ceramic bowl), hidebox,

Where to get them?

Its about time you go window shopping and enjoy the process of welcoming ur baby, instead of getting holed up in ur room playing computers.. lol biggrin.gif
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^lol
sorry to make u repeat that again... but thnks wor!! ^^

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Basically, cage (toyogo box type), water supply (bowl/bottle), bedding (delikate + breeder celect), food (ceramic bowl), hidebox,

Where to get them?

Its about time you go window shopping and enjoy the process of welcoming ur baby, instead of getting holed up in ur room playing computers.. lol biggrin.gif


can find the things in pet shop right? thinking to buy it in sunway pet shop:)

oh yes!! will enjoy the process for welcoming it... but still need to wait few months... besides gonna have my final next wed lol
will start window shopping after finish my final hehe
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haha, u having finals too? lol, i m studying in sunway area too, having my finals..

U can find ur toyogo in supermarkets, the rest in sunway petshop, mentari area, go to petshack..

Enjoy..!
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have to use toyogo as the cage?! actually I got 2 toyogo.. but i used it to put my things!! lol

hmm... will go and find all the things in sunway petshop after my final.. ^^

sunway area? u mean sunway college or the one academy? haha...

u had hedgie riteee?? can show me the pics? wanna see hedgie new pic... T.T
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muchan86 add 1 more itme buy for your hedgehog, ----> wheel, a 12" big wheel let it run. biggrin.gif
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toyogo box are wat all of us use as the hedgie cage, its much more safe and economical..
Get a huge one, more space and more comfortable...

i m studying in the monash, just opposite.. biggrin.gif

lately not much picture, no time to snap.. lol.. when free i ll snap some la..


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Today Crinkles went off to see new girlfriend LOL.... damn, this sounds funny....

Anyway, most of us use toyogo or felton boxes coz cheap. RM30 can get you a almost 2ft storage box, if you buy a cage, the only cage safe for hedgie is this but then it is hard to put the wheel.

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This kind of cage may cost anything from RM60 to RM200, depending on the size and brand.... so for us, Storage box is kinda economical and about the same also, just not as fancy lah.

Pet Shack at Sunway Mentari would have all your needs. They got the bowls and bottles there, the right bedding, food also got. All you need is to go to a shopping mall like Jusco or Giant or Carrefour or Tesco, get the bigges box you can find... or use yours that you have lah.

A wheel, cheap ones are around RM20 plus while expensive imported and silent without noise wheels are around RM60 over.... I think Rm80... I can't remember about the wheel price. I use the cheap one coz is the same usage anyway hahaahh.
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guys... just call me nophie instead of muchan86 lol

vincent09 yeah!! totally forgot about it!! thanks!!

Mr. Z monash not that far from here also haha

crazymouse_yyh will consider that.. but i think storage box is way more cheaper n have more space compared the the cage... will go shopping later....

i just realize that i've been poisoned by this pet.. T.T
since yesterday when i studied i will stop and day dreaming that i have the hedgie to play!! lol

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Hahah.. last time I also day dream alot.... wondering when would Malaysia have hedgehog for sale coz I was reading international forums.... the one day, pop out a few ads... then found 1 seller and I got my 1st hedgie.... that's when all this started.... then my friend and I did a planned breeding, produced 5 cute and healthy hoglets.... then now, i'm continuing hahahah.... they are really cute and independent pets, good for someone who don't have much time for bonding.... but of course this means we must play with them too, not neglect them.
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I start to like hedgehog is when i saw some of them at pet shop there. After that when i go that pet shop is just go inside stone at there look around there. At that time, feel like hard to take care and quite expensive for me..... Until the pet shop got some young hedgehog selling then i direct grap 1 of them come back to my house biggrin.gif
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Hahahahaha... Guess most of us here got poisoned kao kao by pokimon. I remembered that i got poisoned when aka showed me Igel & Pickle's pics. Darn, from that onward i was thinking pokimon. Lol.... Everyday pokimon keeps appearing in my head until i get Ren. Totally excited when i first got him. laugh.gif wub.gif

By the way nophie, hope you can join us soon & welcome to the pokimon family. Enjoy being poke by this lovely creature. tongue.gif laugh.gif

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I'm here to spread pokimon poison again, haha brows.gif

Jr. says hi to all of you, especially muchan86 *wink* laugh.gif
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Cute pokimon hahahah....

Anyway, I sexed my hoglets liao.... 1 girl girl and 1 boy boy.... So cute coz the boy boy likes to lick my hand and anoint himself... and he is only 12 days old when I handled them yesterday. Darn cute. Still haven't open their eyes but they look like wrinkled up cactus.

Wait ar, will update with photos hehehehe.
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wuahhhhhhhh................
*bang my head*
I want it!! I want it!! I want it!! ><

Babymoli : yeah... I got poisoned when I saw Igel picture from last thread.. I read the whole thread till my eyes painful.. haha

Ryo : aaaarrrrgggghhhhh....... T.T this time u really poisoned me with the pics -.-"
btw.. I like the 1st pic, really looks like Jr. saying "Hi" to me lol

hun (can I called u hun? all ppl called u by that name hehe) : fast fast take a pic then show me.. I think I way more exited from u all since I just can see pic... T.T XD

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Sob sob, i actually got my own hedgie already but due to money constraint, my hedgie plan was halted and my friend bought it instead, he is so cute.. Seem like he love to bath, he always become bulat when on ppl hand but when inside water, he stretch his body 200% and look damn relaxed in the tub..

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Just came back from pet shop near my house....
not satisfy at all!! haha
cuz' when I asked is there anything I can buy for hedgies... the staff there dun have any idea at all what is hedgie.. then I said hedgehog.. he also confused... he thought it's hamster... then I said no!!! hahaha

then.. I describe all la... I said look a lil bit like hamster but this one can grow bigger plus having quill at the back.. he's even more confused!! dang! I was speechless... then I walk walk alone to see my self.. then he come n said.. "Oh, I know what the animal now.... but I never seen one before... that's why I have no idea at all" then he said " you sure have a rare pet.." hahaha

I think hedgie still rare althou most ppl in LYN got one for themself huh? lol
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I don't think pokimon is rare now. Most petshops selling it even in Carrefour. May be pokimons might be rare in small petshops. But in most bigger one shouldn't be unfamiliar. ^^

Anyway, here are some old pics of Ren
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Ren soo cute!! the way he sit so cute lar... XD
Ren is a male right? correct me if I'm wrong.. hehe

Thanks for the pics!!
and it really make me tak tahan wanna get my hoglet... 2 or 3 more months just can get it home... T.T
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Nov 12 2007, 12:50 PM)
Sob sob, i actually got my own hedgie already but due to money constraint, my hedgie plan was halted and my friend bought it instead, he is so cute.. Seem like he love to bath, he always become bulat when on ppl hand but when inside water, he stretch his body 200% and look damn relaxed in the tub..
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omfg serious ???? drool.gif
amazing rclxm9.gif

i dun mind paying for this kinda hedgie thumbup.gif
mine struggle like mad during bathing time doh.gif

esp now with the wheels, everyday he play and play
even eating also cant compare with playing in the wheels doh.gif
now not fat and chubby liao, coz always play the wheel, can play at least 5 hours daily sweat.gif
with the wheel he become quite dirty coz always poo and pee on the wheel sweat.gif

a hedgie tat enjoys bath is really good notworthy.gif
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Lol, broken string ur hedgie love that wheel so much ka? glad to find that u like it.. Remember to take good care of it.. lol
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ya thanks bro
ta amount of time he spend on the wheel is like the amount of time i spend online laugh.gif


everynight sure play till dawn one laugh.gif
now i even take away the litter box adi, coz he dun even bother to go there.
its either his hidebox or his wheel doh.gif
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 12 2007, 05:17 PM)
Ren soo cute!! the way he sit so cute lar... XD
Ren is a male right? correct me if I'm wrong.. hehe

Thanks for the pics!!
and it really make me tak tahan wanna get my hoglet... 2 or 3 more months just can get it home... T.T
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Yup. He's a male. Think the 1st photo can see his belly button. Lol.... Sure you'll get your pokimon. I had waited nearly 5 months to get Ren. Hehehehe...
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nophie c u run around sugar glider and hedgehog there biggrin.gif
If you brave to hold them and touch them, hedgehog is quite nice 1.
You just need bath them and clean the staff then anything is ok, but sure need to play with them, quite lonely 1 hedgehog.
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wanna ask something...
is there any differences buy male and female hedgies? I mean should I choose which one to buy 1st then decide? lol

just asking.... cuz' I still want to know more bout hedgie... besides most of u here got one so can tell me any experiences u got from ur hedgie?? ^^


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vincent09, tongue.gif
yeah... I followed that thread few weeks already and I just can't hold back to replay... but most replied that just about kastam thing hehe...

hedgehog live alone right? I mean no need other hedgehog otherwise planning to pair it right?
dun worry.... sure will play with it everyday i guess... haha

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Hedgies and gliders have totally different needs and care.

The biggest difference is that hedgies are solitary, while gliders need constant companion wink.gif

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nophie, I'm sugar glider and hedgehog owner, but i just got 1 of them.
So i need take more time with my sugar glider, sometime she bark at midnight i also go have a look if i wake up already.

Hehe hope you enjoy those quill if you get hedgehog biggrin.gif
For me, i like give my hedgehog having bath, because that time i can touch it anywhere, it just like cool down by the water. biggrin.gif
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Hahaah... patience, sure can get your hoglet lah heheheheh.... Most petshops here got little knowledge, so best is to look for breeders so they can tell you their experience and also how to care for the pet properly.

In Indo, gliders and hedgehogs are cheap.... RM50 each.... here pricey lah, that's what my Indo classmates told me.... anyway, doesn't matter pricey, as long you get a good and healthy hedgie then the price won't matter.
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Lol, thts wat babymoli and hao always say also.. give them wheel and u ll see them on it all the time like kena possessed .. makan, tidur, minum wheel.. lol

QUOTE(broken_string @ Nov 12 2007, 06:26 PM)
ya thanks bro
ta amount of time he spend on the wheel is like the amount of time i spend online laugh.gif
everynight sure play till dawn one laugh.gif
now i even take away the litter box adi, coz he dun even bother to go there.
its either his hidebox or his wheel doh.gif
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I guess there isnt difference in either one.. all hedgies are different, i got 2 female, one extremely ganas another extremely tame.. lol..

QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 12 2007, 07:20 PM)
wanna ask something...
is there any differences buy male and female hedgies? I mean should I choose which one to buy 1st then decide? lol

just asking.... cuz' I still want to know more bout hedgie... besides most of u here got one so can tell me any experiences u got from ur hedgie?? ^^
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Hmm I just found out that my hedgehog jumps sometimes .. So cute ~
Hehe .. I found out this site that contains quite a lot of info about hedgehogs. ^^ Hope it helps.
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Jump ??? Omg, i havn't see before......
But i know my Bo Chai run very fast.... Last time i just leave it and i just turn around to take TV remote control.... he already gone.... At last i see him below the table that is far away from where i sit..
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my hedgehog start to refuse the wheel. Its either sleep or eat or sleep or eat...or sleep. Damn lazy and fat. I tried putting food on wheel and he seems to run a bit now...like 30 seconds

then go sleep
i take him out also he go run around...to the corner of room and sleep

not healthy eh
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dun worry, same as human, hedgie got mood swings too, layzz sometimes dun run as well for a period of time...
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I hope so!

Let me prove to how how lazy.

Last night whole night tak makan(i know cause i put food in wheel so if he eats some will drop off)

Then this morning i take the food put in front of "his majesty"'s home ... then only he come out eat!
even then also stick head out eat then go back zzzzzzzz

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Hahhaha biggrin.gif Yape my hedgehog also lazy like that, but now he will come out eat when he feel hungry.

When i get the big wheel for my hedgehog, sometime i put him in that wheel can try move the wheel let him run, after few day doing like that then he only know that wheel can play, but also poooo~~ there ....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 12 2007, 10:16 PM)

In Indo, gliders and hedgehogs are cheap.... RM50 each.... here pricey lah, that's what my Indo classmates told me.... anyway, doesn't matter pricey, as long you get a good and healthy hedgie then the price won't matter.
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Its so damn true!! hahahaha
even you can get a tiger cub for like RM 100...
that's what I saw coz somebody offered my dad before..
and she was so cute..could not resist..
but ive got 4 dogs already..:S later she ate them all how..HAHAHA
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Its so damn true!! hahahaha
even you can get a tiger cub for like RM 100...
that's what I saw coz somebody offered my dad before..
and she was so cute..could not resist..
but ive got 4 dogs already..:S later she ate them all how..HAHAHA
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fin, u got too much chihuahua la... save the tiger pup for me... if it's white then i want! lol

felt a bit guilty now... but what u guys said its all true.. in indo is easy to get unusual pet... and also it's easy to attract neighbour to call up police to check ur pet... sweat.gif


there's female hedgie for adopt in adoption thread... feel like getting it since her face already playing in my mind now... but a bit scared... -.- what u guys think? should I take her first or wait for hun's hoglet?

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Haha... if you wanna take Reanne's hedgie... go ahead. Her hedgie is a nice cinnamon.... very docile too. Just that she got 1 of my 1st hoglets, so she wanna concentrate on 1 only.... if you can convince Reanne you are a good owner, then why not?
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 13 2007, 08:28 PM)
fin, u got too much chihuahua la... save the tiger pup for me... if it's white then i want! lol

felt a bit guilty now... but what u guys said its all true.. in indo is easy to get unusual pet... and also it's easy to attract neighbour to call up police to check ur pet...  sweat.gif
there's female hedgie for adopt in adoption thread... feel like getting it since her face already playing in my mind now... but a bit scared... -.- what u guys think? should I take her first or wait for hun's hoglet?
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well..Nophie..its not chihuahua..HAHAHA..its minipins...wink.gif
the hedgie is cute!! haha looks like shihtzu..hahahhaa.. happy searching for hedgie.smile.gif
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This is my female hedgie, namely fei poh, why this name? coz i cant think of a better name and she is a fat female hedgie.. lol tongue.gif


Lying down by the newspaper roll, staring blankly at space:

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Lazy pig discovered lying down while eating her meal:

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"Wut?"

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Enjoy! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 13 2007, 09:53 PM)
Haha... if you wanna take Reanne's hedgie... go ahead. Her hedgie is a nice cinnamon.... very docile too. Just that she got 1 of my 1st hoglets, so she wanna concentrate on 1 only.... if you can convince Reanne you are a good owner, then why not?
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how to convince her?? to be honest I don't have any idea at all what to say if she ask anything.... but seriously... I felt like getting her hedgie... after see her pic i think i like her! haha


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well..Nophie..its not chihuahua..HAHAHA..its minipins...wink.gif
the hedgie is cute!! haha looks like shihtzu..hahahhaa.. happy searching for hedgie.smile.gif


not chihuahua? I remembered u told me that ur mom love chihuahua? haha hedgie n shihtzu is totally different la!! lol
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 13 2007, 08:28 PM)
there's female hedgie for adopt in adoption thread... feel like getting it since her face already playing in my mind now... but a bit scared... -.- what u guys think? should I take her first or wait for hun's hoglet?
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If you think you can take good care of her, why not? smile.gif
Go ahead and take her home, pamper her everyday laugh.gif
If I don't have Jr. I think I'll adopt her, she's cute smile.gif

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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 13 2007, 10:43 PM)
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Muhhahha Mr Z, this 1 cute biggrin.gif
Look like your hedgehog very clean rclxms.gif
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aiyo, u dun be cheated by her innocent look, she is a devil in angel's clothing, she is so messy she makes me cry while cleaning her mess... T.T

Poo and pee everywhere, escape out and poo and pee under my bed lagi... clean already still got smell.. oh noess... T.T
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>.< so bad 1 ... Add 1 more punish for me when your hedgehog naughty again biggrin.gif
But is she will stay at there when you let her come out or just go anywhere biggrin.gif


Sei fo, i buy wrong royal canin cat food ( 34 kitten ), actually need to get Fit 32....... 34 kitten hedgehog can accept it ?

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 14 2007, 10:24 AM)
>.< so bad 1 ... Add 1 more punish for me  when your hedgehog naughty again biggrin.gif
But is she will stay at there when you let her come out or just go anywhere biggrin.gif
Sei fo, i buy wrong royal canin cat food  ( 34 kitten ), actually need to get Fit 32.......  34 kitten hedgehog can accept it ?
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Kitten 34 is higher in protein compare to fit 32 if i'm not mistaken.
My Jr. taking Kitten 34 also, but beware, it's "insanely addictive" lolz...
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Though it has higher protein, there is also 5% more fat than they should take. It would be better to stick to Fit32, later your hedgie gets addicted to kitten34, got problem neh.
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If you think you can take good care of her, why not? smile.gif
Go ahead and take her home, pamper her everyday laugh.gif
If I don't have Jr. I think I'll adopt her, she's cute smile.gif
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agree with u.... she's cute!! hahaha will try to call Reanne tonight after my exam... hope I can get her.. ><


Mr. Z, ur hedgie so cute lar... plus funny.... eat also can lying down like that... laugh.gif \




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Yesterday i saw some of royal canin, then i mess up either fit 32 or 34 kitten, I remember last time i saw the calcium 1.1%.... After i recheck again... last time is fit 32....
Ya 34 high protien and high fat, really need to low down the feeding.
Ah my Bo Chai, look like what also want to bite, just those vege and fruits don't bite biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 14 2007, 12:33 PM)
Yesterday i saw some of royal canin, then i mess up either fit 32 or 34 kitten, I remember last time i saw the calcium 1.1%....  After i recheck again... last time is fit 32.... 
Ya 34 high protien and high fat, really need to low down the feeding.
Ah my Bo Chai, look like what also want to bite, just those vege and fruits don't bite biggrin.gif
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Really ar ? .. I also bought 34 kitten 0.o..
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 14 2007, 10:24 AM)
>.< so bad 1 ... Add 1 more punish for me  when your hedgehog naughty again biggrin.gif
But is she will stay at there when you let her come out or just go anywhere biggrin.gif
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She climb out herself when i off light and sleep.. =.=;
She somehows know that i am sleeping and take the opportunity to escape out and jalan jalan..

QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 14 2007, 12:13 PM)
agree with u.... she's cute!! hahaha will try to call Reanne tonight after my exam... hope I can get her.. ><
Mr. Z, ur hedgie so cute lar... plus funny.... eat also can lying down like that...  laugh.gif \
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Lol, she is very lazy but also like to eat aka 'wai sek' lol..
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OMG she climb out O.o Becareful when you walk at night biggrin.gif
Oh yea, i remember when Bo Chai was young, i put him in a small plastic cage then midnight he climb out .... direct jump down and "pop" beside my gf head...... Lucky didn't hit ..... If not ..... Bo Chai still alive or not nowadays...biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 14 2007, 10:33 PM)
OMG she climb out O.o    Becareful when you walk at night biggrin.gif
Oh yea, i remember when Bo Chai was young, i put him in a small plastic cage then midnight he climb out .... direct jump down and "pop" beside my gf head...... Lucky didn't hit ..... If not ..... Bo Chai still alive or not nowadays...biggrin.gif
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hahaha.... where did u put ur Bo Chai cage? near ur bed? lol


btw... I called Reanne this evening... and shoot!! I screwed up!! haha
Din really do some research... so when she asked me question can't really answer la... plus it's my final week...
gosh! even on the exam room sometime the hedgie will just pop out into my head... chase out all my answer sweat.gif

but but...I promise her I will try and do some research.... and indeed I did some research untill I neglect my study for tomorrow... haha now wanna continue my study... if not sure die tomorrow... -.-
hope the hedgie can wait for till I finish my exam then called Reanne back hehe



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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 14 2007, 10:56 PM)
hahaha.... where did u put ur Bo Chai cage? near ur bed? lol
btw... I called Reanne this evening... and shoot!! I screwed up!! haha
Din really do some research... so when she asked me question can't really answer la... plus it's my final week...
gosh! even on the exam room sometime the hedgie will just pop out into my head... chase out all my answer  sweat.gif

but but...I promise her I will try and do some research.... and indeed I did some research untill I neglect my study for tomorrow... haha now wanna continue my study... if not sure die tomorrow... -.-
hope the hedgie can wait for till I finish my exam then called Reanne back hehe
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really so addictive? tongue.gif

anyway ta reason why i get my joey is because my hedgehog dun giv enough attention to me laugh.gif
he rather face the wheel rather than playing with me doh.gif

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muchan86
emm.. i hope u will get to adopt echo from reanne..
plus nowadays it's quite hard to find a female hedgie

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Nov 14 2007, 11:23 PM)
really so addictive?  tongue.gif

anyway ta reason why i get my joey is because my hedgehog dun giv enough attention to me  laugh.gif
he rather face the wheel rather than playing with me  doh.gif
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normal ma..they even run mile to hunt for food..meaning ur kat chai is super duper way god like healthy..u will get worried if kat chai sleep whole day
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lolz...ya he run at least a mile or two every night
less than 30min after the light went off i can hear the sound of the wheel oledi.

if i am not asleep that time got to endure the wheel sound whole night shakehead.gif

anyway if muchan dint get the hedgie from reanne, i would like to adopt it tongue.gif
looking damm long for cinnamon liao sweat.gif
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 14 2007, 10:56 PM)
hahaha.... where did u put ur Bo Chai cage? near ur bed? lol
btw... I called Reanne this evening... and shoot!! I screwed up!! haha
Din really do some research... so when she asked me question can't really answer la... plus it's my final week...
gosh! even on the exam room sometime the hedgie will just pop out into my head... chase out all my answer  sweat.gif

but but...I promise her I will try and do some research.... and indeed I did some research untill I neglect my study for tomorrow... haha now wanna continue my study... if not sure die tomorrow... -.-
hope the hedgie can wait for till I finish my exam then called Reanne back hehe
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I wonder what questions did Reanne asked, haha
Don't give up muchan, do more research and you will become a good owner, try again after your exam.
Although hedgie's innocent face is "insanely addictive", but you also have to concentrate on your study first tongue.gif

QUOTE(broken_string @ Nov 14 2007, 11:23 PM)
really so addictive?  tongue.gif

anyway ta reason why i get my joey is because my hedgehog dun giv enough attention to me  laugh.gif
he rather face the wheel rather than playing with me  doh.gif
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My hedgie also don't give any attention to me, what he know is sleep... eat... wheel... poo n pee on wheel... sleep again... doh.gif

QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Nov 14 2007, 11:52 PM)
normal ma..they even run mile to hunt for food..meaning ur kat chai is super duper way god like healthy..u will get worried if kat chai sleep whole day
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My hedgie not healthy leh, always sleep, even i play with him half way also can sleep doh.gif
Hopefully he will become more active after the quilling process la
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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Nov 15 2007, 01:26 AM)
My hedgie not healthy leh, always sleep, even i play with him half way also can sleep doh.gif
Hopefully he will become more active after the quilling process la
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just like us human, hedgie also has different characteristic..
if he sleeps a lot, that doesn't mean he's unhealthy..
like my sheimi, when i switch off the light, if i peek him after 10 minutes, he still sleeping at the corner..
but tomorrow if i wake up early, i can hear the sound of the wheel..
and he will empty the kibble bowl (he eats the kibble, not tumpahkan) plus drinks a lot..
maybe he still shy2 at me..

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its about the hedgie adoption
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Echo's adoption is an adoption but I'm not expecting to simply adopt her off. You need to show me that you can take care of her and understand the terms and conditions well.

Whoever that sent me smses that I didn't reply :

I'm getting smses asking for her and asking if hedgehogs are easy to keep. What nonsense is this? You want something free you have to work for it, don't expect me to spoon feed you.

My price is research, the internet is at your disposal, make use of it.
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Nov 15 2007, 02:42 PM)
Echo's adoption is an adoption but I'm not expecting to simply adopt her off. You need to show me that you can take care of her and understand the terms and conditions well.

Whoever that sent me smses that I didn't reply :

I'm getting smses asking for her and asking if hedgehogs are easy to keep. What nonsense is this? You want something free you have to work for it, don't expect me to spoon feed you.

My price is research, the internet is at your disposal, make use of it.
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research is good.. smile.gif hehe
better do some research before you adopt something.. ^^
but dont get too serious Reanne..hehe relaxxxx...
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Nov 15 2007, 02:42 PM)
Echo's adoption is an adoption but I'm not expecting to simply adopt her off. You need to show me that you can take care of her and understand the terms and conditions well.

Whoever that sent me smses that I didn't reply :

I'm getting smses asking for her and asking if hedgehogs are easy to keep. What nonsense is this? You want something free you have to work for it, don't expect me to spoon feed you.

My price is research, the internet is at your disposal, make use of it.
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heeh... yeah... I got my lesson from u, Reanne... sweat.gif
But to be honest... after I did some research I can say that my knowledge bout hedgehog is improving..
thnks to Reanne!! hehe rclxms.gif

ow.. another one.... I read the 1st page it's said that hedgehog normally stay alone... so they won't share their cage... but last night when I read some site n do research.. It is said that the female hedgie are more cohabited than the male hedgehog. cuz' the male one will try to fight each other for their dominant...

I read it from here

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but still... Reanne said don't put the adult together... they can stay together in one cage when they're young but when they grow older they should be put in separate cage ^^




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i think not all female...is like few cases maybe 1~2 can be so..+ extra monitoring needed from the owner even they doesnt show offensive sign..u will never know rite..
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If you put 2 together, you have to double the tank space.... 4ft and above.... can? Anyway, it is to be safe. They are after all solitary... in natural life, they always forage and walk alone and come together during matings.... most animals are like that. Colony animals, life pairing animals.... they are different but solitary animals do not come together and live with each other even if they meet each other.

Just google these 2 words... "hedgehogs solitary" and a long list of websites that says hedgehogs are solitary.

Some breeders may keep the females together coz they need space, so they put 2 animals in a 2ft tank.... but actually you should need about 4ft of space to make them happy. As humans, we would always think that having pets in pairs is great coz they can have a friend.... but I think better stick to facts than to stick to our emotions.
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If you put 2 together, you have to double the tank space.... 4ft and above.... can? Anyway, it is to be safe. They are after all solitary... in natural life, they always forage and walk alone and come together during matings.... most animals are like that. Colony animals, life pairing animals.... they are different but solitary animals do not come together and live with each other even if they meet each other.

Just google these 2 words... "hedgehogs solitary" and a long list of websites that says hedgehogs are solitary.

Some breeders may keep the females together coz they need space, so they put 2 animals in a 2ft tank.... but actually you should need about 4ft of space to make them happy. As humans, we would always think that having pets in pairs is great coz they can have a friend.... but I think better stick to facts than to stick to our emotions.
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yeap yeap... I searched more bout it.. it is said that it will be great if we can give them as big space as we can... and it will give them more space to roam free laugh.gif

seriously... before I search n read all the information.. I used to buy animals in pairs.. cuz' my thoughts also same with some ppl out there who think animal in pairs is more fun than single pair.. but after done some research by hedgie.. I realize that not all animals are the same.. and it must have some proper reason to keep pairs except if u think to breed it la... hahha

anyway.. found this discussion room which full of hedgehod stuff ^^
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Little hoglet at 17 days old. Today just opened it's eyes but still small slits....

Cutie, still wrinkly.

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aww.. wub.gif wub.gif so darn cute..can I er..hognap it..hedgienap it...
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hahah... hognap. Now only 17 days.... once 24 days sure cuter, hope she gets rounder too heheheh.
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I bought a huge box yesterday, and manage to fit in the wheel, my god, first night only, that fei poh already make alot of noise.. then within few hour, she rewards me with a shit stained wheel for giving her a new toy, T.T

Bloody stinks now.. T.T
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yea the pee+poo wheel really stinks like hell ph34r.gif
they dun even bother about the litterbox after getting the wheel till i remove the litterbox to save space.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 16 2007, 08:54 PM)
Little hoglet at 17 days old. Today just opened it's eyes but still small slits....

Cutie, still wrinkly.

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 16 2007, 08:54 PM)
Little hoglet at 17 days old. Today just opened it's eyes but still small slits....

Cutie, still wrinkly.

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Very very cute wub.gif wub.gif The quils very dark...even darker than my hoglet laugh.gif
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hun, ur hoglet so cutee!!
gosh!! I'm really addicted to hedgehog now...
dream bout it somemore... damn funny lar....
I dream I got one hedgie and I play with it everyday lol

btw... I just came back from sunway pyramid.. and I saw 1 cage quite big lar.. got 2nd floor somemore plus the wheel already inside and the bowl for food n drink also included i guess... when I see the price... it cost RM 109 with 30% discount.. feel like buy it but i hold myself till I really got one then just bought it home... haha
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You should buy it first and prepare a few days before you bring your hedgie home. Since got 30% discount, should buy when the discount still available. Later no more discount, then zannendes.
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You should buy it first and prepare a few days before you bring your hedgie home. Since got 30% discount, should buy when the discount still available. Later no more discount, then zannendes.
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but today is not the day... cuz when I went there the shop wanna close d... but if u say so.. maybe I just buy it when it still have discount... if not later regret... hehe
but I'm not sure which one to buy also... lots of diff cages there n most of them also got 30% discount... rclxub.gif
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Get the largest your budget would allow, or at least one that is just nice. Don't get the ones with the second or third levels made from mesh or bars. Actually one floor is enough, as long as it's spacious enough. The sides as well, don't choose the ones with bars the hedgehog can easily reach.
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 17 2007, 02:41 AM)
hun, ur hoglet so cutee!! 
gosh!! I'm really addicted to hedgehog now...
dream bout it somemore... damn funny lar....
I dream I got one hedgie and I play with it everyday lol

btw...  I just came back from sunway pyramid.. and I saw 1 cage quite big lar.. got 2nd floor somemore plus the wheel already inside and the bowl for food n drink also included i guess... when I see the price... it cost RM 109 with 30% discount.. feel like buy it but i hold myself till I really got one then just bought it home... haha
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Igel passed away this morning... my mum found her lying in her water bowl...

Rest in peace little buddy, I kindda hate you for not saying goodbye... sad.gif

p.s: I just came back from Ho Chi Minh on a 2 weeks business trip, and burst into tears when my mum told me this sad news...
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Igel passed away this morning... my mum found her lying in her water bowl...

Rest in peace little buddy, I kindda hate you for not saying goodbye... sad.gif

p.s: I just came back from Ho Chi Minh on a 2 weeks business trip, and burst into tears when my mum told me this sad news...
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max_cavalera, Reanne : yeah... planning to buy it... will try n go again later and ask if all the water bottle included or not.. haha
gosh.. i reallt can't stand it... really want to play with the hedgies...
look at hun's hoglet pic makes me wanna play with it.. T.T



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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 17 2007, 07:22 PM)
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RIP Igel... I know she will blessed u from up there for ur care for her...
max_cavalera, Reanne : yeah... planning to buy it... will try n go again later and ask if all the water bottle included or not.. haha
gosh.. i reallt can't stand it... really want to play with the hedgies...
look at hun's hoglet pic makes me wanna play with it.. T.T
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water bottle whr got give for free, not anything that you want you'll get for free shakehead.gif you have to add money la sell separately sweat.gif.
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Nov 17 2007, 05:57 PM)
Igel passed away this morning... my mum found her lying in her water bowl...

Rest in peace little buddy, I kindda hate you for not saying goodbye... sad.gif

p.s: I just came back from Ho Chi Minh on a 2 weeks business trip, and burst into tears when my mum told me this sad news...
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^ haha....
but last nite when I saw it, the water bottle and wheel inside have no price tag? and the price only for the cage with discount.... not all cage but most of it.. lol

but as u said.. i feel curious also... I mean, do they really that nice want to give free as they already give out discount price? haha
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Nov 17 2007, 05:57 PM)
Igel passed away this morning... my mum found her lying in her water bowl...

Rest in peace little buddy, I kindda hate you for not saying goodbye... sad.gif

p.s: I just came back from Ho Chi Minh on a 2 weeks business trip, and burst into tears when my mum told me this sad news...
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Dang, RIP Igel. She was a lovely hedgie. I feel in love with hedgehog because of her as well. I still remembered her lovely photos last time especially the one in the coffee mug cry.gif
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Oh dear, RIP to Igel.... gonna miss her. She was such a photogenic hedgehog.
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Dang, RIP Igel. She was a lovely hedgie. I feel in love with hedgehog because of her as well. I still remembered her lovely photos last time especially the one in the coffee mug  cry.gif
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although I know Igel just from the pic but I can tell that she's a friendly hedgie...
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Thanks guys... there are still tears in my eyes and its nice to know that most of you still remember Igel...

Dear Igel, I'll always remember you won Hedgehog of the Month twice at hedgehogcentral.com; Jan 06 and Sept 06 (Sept 06's title was taken down as each hedgie can be awarded HotM for one time only). You sure know how to make me proud... by the way here's the link to Igel's gallery: Igel@hedgehogcentral

and her famous picture...

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god... I really miss you, Igel. You're really cruel... all I wanted is a goodbye from you; is that too much to request for? sad.gif

@NewbieBetta, Igel was 2 years old.
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Sorry for your loss, although I'm not a hedgie keeper but I remember Igels cute photos from before. RIP Igel
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RIP little one. Safe trip over the rainbow.

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RIP Igel, cute photos she got there..
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Sorry for your lost yrh0413, hope Igel will sitting on rainbow bridge watching you all the way.

I know how you feel for didn't say goodbye to Igel, i also be like that last few month because of my chinchilla pass away. He just pass away out from my sight when i taking him to vets.... until let vets look at him, he already gone... T_T ( so everyone who emegency need to look for vets, just go to vets and request for emegency... don't wait those ppl doing slow thing for asking your name, your age... and your pet name there.....)

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Rest In peace Igel.
You'll be dearly remembered. =(
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Rest In Peace dear Igel..
the photo of Igel in the mug really makes my heart melts..

Guys, juz wanna ask ur opinion, is this box big enough for Sheimi?

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Rumizu,

Yea... Is enough for him. Do you have a hidebox for him?
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moli..
yeah, used to have one but i took it away after i bought the big wheel..
no space.. and moreover sheimi will be overprotective if he always stays inside the hidebox.. after i took it away, now he seems tamer than before..
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Is that a 12 inch wheel?

Anyway, Carrefour is having a sale on Felton storage boxes I think.... I just got hold of one.... 2ft in length and 1ft wide.... not bad, great space and cheap also, only RM24.90.....

It is natural for them to be over protective with a hide box... coz it is their nature to hide from predators when they are resting.
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rumizu,

Hmm.... Are all pokimons like that? Seem to be protective with hidebox? I find Ren is ok. If i take away his hidebox, he will go hide under the wheel.

Hmm... May be i should try to take away the hidebox for few days to see how he goes. Lol....


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Is that a 12 inch wheel?

Anyway, Carrefour is having a sale on Felton storage boxes I think.... I just got hold of one.... 2ft in length and 1ft wide.... not bad, great space and cheap also, only RM24.90.....

It is natural for them to be over protective with a hide box... coz it is their nature to hide from predators when they are resting.
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If not mistaken, that's the silent wheel which is more expensive than the one sold at PW.
Hey, cheap leh for that storage box. Not bad to get hold one.

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Rest In Peace Igel... Sigh...

rumizu,

maybe you can change the water n food bowl to a smaller one, so can you have more space for the hide box =)
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i bought the wheel at Pet Safari, Ikano..
forgot the price oredi..

wow moli, u sure have a very big storage box since u can put both the wheel and the hidebox.. Mine, if put the hidebox than afraid sheimi will has less space to walk and play.. thinking of buying a new box for him..
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Silent Wheel comes in 3 sizes.... small, medium and large.... the large one is 12 inches. Medium one is 8 inches.

Dunno lah, maybe from top angle it looks like the medium sized one hahahah....
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ta silent wheel easy to clean shit or not ? laugh.gif
i dun mind the sound as long as the shit is easy to clean tongue.gif
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Easy to clean by using toothbrush biggrin.gif
But need to c how was the poo at the wheel there, if whole surface like that..... easy clean also need to clean long time because of big wheel biggrin.gif

rumizu, did Sheimi play the bell ball? I feel my hedgehog just play wheel and didn't play other thing there.
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vince..
he only plays with it sometimes..
not as often as he plays the wheel..
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OMG, the pix is sooo cute!

Rest in Peace adorable Igel...

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QUOTE(rumizu @ Nov 19 2007, 02:37 PM)
i bought the wheel at Pet Safari, Ikano..
forgot the price oredi..

wow moli, u sure have a very big storage box since u can put both the wheel and the hidebox.. Mine, if put the hidebox than afraid sheimi will has less space to walk and play.. thinking of buying a new box for him..
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ta silent wheel easy to clean shit or not ? laugh.gif
i dun mind the sound as long as the shit is easy to clean tongue.gif
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i so so agree with this..
i wonder why do they have to play and do their business at the same time.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(rumizu @ Nov 19 2007, 02:37 PM)
i bought the wheel at Pet Safari, Ikano..
forgot the price oredi..

wow moli, u sure have a very big storage box since u can put both the wheel and the hidebox.. Mine, if put the hidebox than afraid sheimi will has less space to walk and play.. thinking of buying a new box for him..
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rumizu, trust me, when he/she has the wheel, i doubt he need to walk around as well. The wheel would be his main source of entertainment from that time onwards..LOL.. smile.gif

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I found this on my female hedgie's cage just now. Can someone tell me what is this ?? It's cover with blood sad.gif
What should i do ?? cry.gif cry.gif
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Huh? What is that? Did you try touching it? Do check your female, she got any wounds? Bloody body parts?
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that thing seems very painful
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 19 2007, 10:33 PM)
Huh? What is that? Did you try touching it? Do check your female, she got any wounds? Bloody body parts?
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No, i dont dare to touch it. I checked the female, no bloody on the body parts.
Either vomit or poo sad.gif
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Don't think that is vomit.... Anyway, is your hedgie fine now? Acting normal?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 19 2007, 10:48 PM)
Don't think that is vomit.... Anyway, is your hedgie fine now? Acting normal?
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Fine but she don't let me to touch/hold her sad.gif the thing abit look like tongue


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weird stuff there...
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Btw, anyone experiences before ??? Mind to tell me wat is that ??

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or try to offer treat to check if its the tongue that you are talking about?

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cant help you..havent seen this before..
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Have you throw the thing yet? Try to examine it with a forceps if you don't dare to touch it with your hand.

Is this the female that gave birth not long ago? Hmm... Is it possible the unidentifiable object is a dead embryo?
Bring her to the vet if she acting abnormal, bring the unidentifiable object too if possible

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QUOTE(Ryo` @ Nov 20 2007, 12:59 AM)
Have you throw the thing yet? Try to examine it with a forceps if you don't dare to touch it with your hand.

Is this the female that gave birth not long ago? Hmm... Is it possible the unidentifiable object is a dead embryo?
Bring her to the vet if she acting abnormal, bring the unidentifiable object too if possible
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Yes, u r rite...is a dead embryo.
Yesterday midnite, i found another new born hoglet on the cage but already R.I.P
I think 1-2 week aft give birth of my hoglet, the female jump over next cage. Coz the hidebox too high and she manage to climb on the top. My mistake blush.gif

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QUOTE(climacool @ Nov 20 2007, 08:12 PM)
Yes, u r rite...is a dead embryo.
Yesterday midnite, i found another new born dying hoglet on the cage.
I think 1-2 week aft give birth of my hoglet, the female jump over next cage. Coz the hidebox too high and she manage to climb on the top. My mistake  blush.gif
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another DYING or DEAD hoglet..big difference wei..

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Oppsss..typing too fast edi tongue.gif edited biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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did u mean "that" thing is the last unborn hoglet which already died inside?
how's ur hedgie now? ok?

btw, just got my hoglet yesterday.. can't stand it so I bought one... hehe
hoglet like to sleep when still young? mine... since last nite after let him explore n poo poo a while he went to sleep... now still sleeping so nicely.. -.-
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 21 2007, 04:19 PM)
did u mean "that" thing is the last unborn hoglet which already died inside?
how's ur hedgie now? ok?

btw, just got my hoglet yesterday.. can't stand it so I bought one... hehe
hoglet like to sleep when still young? mine... since last nite after let him explore n poo poo a while he went to sleep... now still sleeping so nicely.. -.-
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nope... i bought it from some breeder here... ^^
yeah.. let him sleep now.. still thinking what to call him...
the name "Ken-chan" popped to my mind.. lol
Thanks for welcoming... ^^
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Welcome muchan, rmb to post some pics of ur pokimon ya ^^


Added on November 21, 2007, 5:28 pmBtw, i adopted another albino male hedgie, will post some pics later

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Hi , just wanted to post a link with alot of very helpfull and ACCURATE
stress on ACCURATE info about hedgies (and also chinchillas). Do your research people! your pets depend on you for it

Hope u find this as usefull as i did

http://www.chins-n-quills.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=37


edit: Muchan i think we both got our hedgies from the same breeder last night ^_~

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Hmm.. just asking, anyone here brings their hedgehog out to their garden for it to poo and pee ? ..
I bring my Poo Poo out 2 or 3 times a day biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Cimredopyh @ Nov 21 2007, 06:10 PM)
Hi , just wanted to post a link with alot of very helpfull and ACCURATE
stress on ACCURATE info about hedgies (and also chinchillas). Do your research people! your pets depend on you for it

Hope u find this as usefull as i did

http://www.chins-n-quills.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=37
edit: Muchan i think we both got our hedgies from the same breeder last night ^_~
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haha... midvalley? lol
He told me he's gonna went there to deliver the baby.. hehe
mine still dun let me touch him.. T.T
but he's kinda sniff sniff my hand... but when i try to touch him -.-"
his quill all came out....
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Anyone i need help pls cry.gif
Just now i notice my Bo Chai injured already, when i take him up and just rounded, for what i see, the injured area is near the armpit of front leg,
I have no idea how he injured, all thing inside is round.... I also thinking is it the wheel but totally no idea for it.


So what i can do now? I want to send him for vets, but any suggestion vets for hedgehog? I always send my pet to vet which is near Pet safari ( Ikiano ) there, but I'm not sure is it ok to let them check ...

Hmm don't know how Bo Chai feel now, i take out the wheel and just left the food & water container + hiding pipe there.... Hope Bo Chai have a rest until tomorow send him for vets

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 22 2007, 12:11 AM)
Anyone i need help  pls cry.gif
Just now i notice my Bo Chai injured already, when i take him up and just rounded, for what i see, the injured area is near the armpit of front leg,
I have no idea how he injured,  all thing inside is round.... I also thinking is it the wheel but totally no idea for it.
So what i can do now? I want to send him for vets, but any suggestion vets for hedgehog? I always send my pet to vet which is near Pet safari ( Ikiano ) there, but I'm not sure is it ok to let them check ...

Hmm don't know how Bo Chai feel now, i take out the wheel and just left the food & water container + hiding pipe there.... Hope Bo Chai have a rest until tomorow send him for vets
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any picture?
how is the wound?
is it wet or dry ?

my kat chai injured before as well but only abit of scratch after he climb out of his enclosure.

anyway take a pic for us to see and should u feel tat its serious pls take him to the vets asap wink.gif
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hard to c the the injured area 1, he got bleeding also. ( the blood from armpit until body, maybe is bleeding when runing wheel and just drop until body there....) But already dry....
Any vet suggestion ?? Or i take him to the vet that is near Ikiano Pet Safari there.
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vincent09, bring Bo Chai to Dr. Yeoh. The vet clinic is located at Tmn Megah facing main road.
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Dr Yeoh also can for Hedgehog? Is it Dr yeoh chinese or ?
Ok i try for that.
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He's chinese and has been there for a very long time. More experienced with exotics than most vets we know and studied overseas. So he's a better bet than most.
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Oh if chinese easy for me biggrin.gif
Ok i go there by today T-T my Bo Chai~~~
Althought bleeding is stop, just want to go there check is it ok for the injured or what.

Thank you guys.
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 21 2007, 11:13 PM)
haha... midvalley? lol
He told me he's gonna went there to deliver the baby.. hehe
mine still dun let me touch him.. T.T
but he's kinda sniff sniff my hand... but when i try to touch him -.-"
his quill all came out....
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Yep, midvalley smile.gif
Try picking him up by putting one hand on each side of him and slowly bringing ur hands together (like your trying to scoop up water), eventually he will step up on your hands then u can pick him up, carefull not to terkepit his legs tho but if you do it slowly shouldnt be a problem
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Em guys, just now i clean Bo Chai cage and try take Bo Chai have a look, those blood that it on his body all gone.... become white white flur there, the scratch already dry, like our human like that. Is it still need to take to Dr Yeoh? Bo Chai run as normally there ( just now need to chase him.... )

Maybe today i stop bath him ( today is his bathing time ), just see how is going on. OK ?
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Monitor him. You let him walk and see how he walk... if got limp, then you need to check carefully, if fracture then sure need a vet liao.

Hedgehogs can sometimes hurt themselves.... climbing and falling.... I don't think it's the wheel if it has no sharp ages.... Maybe housing also can cause. Personally, after keeping hedgehogs for about 2 years, I really have never experience any serious injuries nor visited a vet for my hedgehogs too. One of my hedgehogs fell at 4ft and he was ok.... but of course I checked him carefully la.


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Hi Vincent
If your sure its just a flesh wound and hes acting normally then probably there is no need to take him to the vet, however he may have some injury inside to the muscle/bone etc depending on how he managed to get that scratch, just keep a close eye on him and how hes moving around if you decide not to take him
what kind of wheel are you using btw?
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Just now i put my hand inside the storage cage, he just run and chase on my hand, run like normal like that. Didn't c any limp, run very smooth.

I'm using the 12" big wheel there, just now i notice the wheel got the plastic cutting area like cutting gundam model area without sanding, but that area also hard to hurt hedgehog, but i already sanding it become smooth.

Housing also no problem to hurt Bo Chai, because i give him a huge pipe for his sleeping place..... now still wonder how he get the scratch...
For what i think now is that wheel plastic cutting area.

Oh yea 1 more thing is.... he clean the blood on his flur by himself, today i stop bath for him, scare the scratch will bleeding again.

But anywhere thank you guys, yesterday can sleep while also T-T.
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 22 2007, 11:00 AM)
Just now i put my hand inside the storage cage, he just run and chase on my hand, run like normal like that. Didn't c any limp, run very smooth.

I'm using the 12" big wheel there, just now i notice the wheel got the plastic cutting area like cutting gundam model area without sanding, but that area also hard to hurt hedgehog, but i already sanding it become smooth. 

Housing also no problem to hurt Bo Chai, because i give him a huge pipe for his sleeping place..... now still wonder how he get the scratch...
For what i think now is that wheel plastic cutting area. 

Oh yea 1 more thing is.... he clean the blood on his flur by himself, today i stop bath for him, scare the scratch will bleeding again.

But anywhere thank you guys, yesterday can sleep while also T-T.
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Then he is ok lah. Should be no problem.

Sometimes cuts and wounds can happen. Nothing else sharp in his tank rite?

Animals self clean their wounds.... LOL.... not every wound you must bath it. How often you bath your hedgehog? I only do it like once in 2 or 3 weeks. I feel once a week too much hahahah.
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i do it once a week, bathing + cleaning cage + change bedding at same day. I check inside the cage, nothing sharp thing on there. Yesterday when i saw it... very horry 1, i thought Bo Chai eat something else and bleeding there, when i check carefully, many blood on his bottom body but already start dry ( very pure red color ) besides that, wheel, bedding sleeping place also got some blood there... But i can't find out which area is make him get scratch ( according the blood area inside the cage )

Does hedgehog bite himself until bleeding ? Now afternoon i take out the wheel first, let him have some space to rest, at night i put it back c how is going on.
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Dont think they will bite themselves till they bleed, ?_?
anyways sounds like he will be just fine : )

on a side note my baby hog seems to have taught himself to use the litter pan i provided for him @_@
i knew they can be trained to do this but i didnt expect him to do it straight away!
hes been pooping in the pan since i got him 2 days ago
last night i moved it to another corner (tangan gatal)
and when i woke up this morning all the poop was in the original corner where the pan was before i moved it ><
he had even dragged the paper towel i line the pan with to cover his poop
so cute...of course i moved the pan back...i shouldnt have moved it elsewhere in the first place *smacks forehead*

here are some pics of the hog on my bf's facebook page
still shopping for a SAFE wheel, prolly gonna have to make one

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^mine... keep on sleeping since I got him 2 days ago.... T.T
not yet potty-trained him, but was thinking to provide small towel and turn it become a nice bed for him to sleep... hehe

but still... keep on sleeping till now... T.T

hey... I can't open the url u gave...
every time I click the link it came back to my facebook home... haha

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played with him for nearly an hour just now... lil ken poo for how many times... haha
then I got take few pics of him.. but he only want to show his face on these 2 pics cuz' he can't even sit still for me to take his pic..

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He likes to play behind my feet and climb it but then cannot climb... tongue.gif
was thinking to move him to my room end of this month.. to take him away from my "naughty" housmate...
always asked me to take him out n just now when she knows i played with him without calling her, she dash down n open the cage which made lil Ken so scared and she keep on put her hand to him... unfortunately he din even want to sniff her hand! lol then I asked her to stop disturb him but she dun want to listen which made me had to watch her more than i have to watched over my ken.. T.T



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Eh ??? muchan86, when you get your hedgehog ???
Hehe... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 22 2007, 04:28 PM)
^mine... keep on sleeping since I got him 2 days ago.... T.T
not yet potty-trained him, but was thinking to provide small towel and turn it become a nice bed for him to sleep... hehe

but still... keep on sleeping till now... T.T

hey... I can't open the url u gave...
every time I click the link it came back to my facebook home... haha

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played with him for nearly an hour just now... lil ken poo for how many times... haha
then I got take few pics of him.. but he only want to show his face on these 2 pics cuz' he can't even sit still for me to take his pic..

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He likes to play behind my feet and climb it but then cannot climb...  tongue.gif
was thinking to move him to my room end of this month.. to take him away from my "naughty" housmate...
always asked me to take him out n just now when she knows i played with him without calling her, she dash down n open the cage which made lil Ken so scared and she keep on put her hand to him... unfortunately he din even want to sniff her hand! lol then I asked her to stop disturb him but she dun want to listen which made me had to watch her more than i have to watched over my ken.. T.T
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u lansi with her la, your ken ken only tame with you ma, usually most hedgie only bond with their owner, they a bit cautious wif other people, if your fren so tangan gatal ask her buy one herself la, dun disturb your ken ken laugh.gif
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 22 2007, 07:35 PM)
Eh ??? muchan86, when you get your hedgehog ???
Hehe... biggrin.gif
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haha.. I got him last thursday as a gift me finishing my last paper tongue.gif


QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 22 2007, 11:03 PM)
u lansi with her la, your ken ken only tame with you ma, usually most hedgie only bond with their owner, they a bit cautious wif other people,  if your fren so tangan gatal ask her buy one herself la, dun disturb your ken ken  laugh.gif
yaya... he recognize me!!! wub.gif wub.gif
cuz he let me touch him n carry him.. not grumpy like this morning... haha
now can run ed when i took him out from the cage.... eat n drink a lot too! rclxms.gif
she... likes to disturb but scared to touch him... lol

newai... managed to take one pic although it still blur due to the phone camera quality tongue.gif

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he likes to bite my bracelet... and this one.. the first time he stop running and let me hold him with repay he can bite my bracelet biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 22 2007, 03:28 PM)
hey... I can't open the url u gave...
every time I click the link it came back to my facebook home... haha

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Cute cute. biggrin.gif
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Pics

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name him Demon? blink.gif
a cute demon then... laugh.gif it's a he right? hehe
btw.. added ur facebook also.. haha


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Cute cute. biggrin.gif
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thanks! blush.gif


just these when i came back from dinner...
sometimes still feel scared but at least he's kinda like me now.. *i guess* laugh.gif

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1st shot still shy shy....

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2nd shot... can look to the camera ad.. haha

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tat is a very tame hedgie u got there thumbup.gif
juz bought it for a short while and its so comfortable with u

congrats biggrin.gif

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Cute leh, muchan86 biggrin.gif rclxms.gif
My Bo Chai always shame and angry biggrin.gif

Hmm nowadays start look at my Bo Chai is it the scratch got open back and bleeding or not, but lucky is no more already. Is it ok give a bath for next week? or give him more time to recover ?
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name him Demon?  blink.gif
a cute demon then...  laugh.gif  it's a he right? hehe
btw.. added ur facebook also.. haha


Yeah its a he, your hedgies brother tongue.gif

Thats not my facebook page btw, its my bf's >.> (Hunter_Mx)

Edit: lol he just said awhile ago "some random chick added me to facebook?!?!"


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Is it ok give a bath for next week? or give him more time to recover ?


should be ok to bathe him next week, why? is he getting stinky? laugh.gif

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haha...
gomennn~~~ I thought it's urs.. m(_ _)m
our hedgies siblings!! hahaha should bring them to meet each other next time lol

bath... was thinking to give ken his first bath later on sunday... wanna see his reaction... =p
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stinky biggrin.gif, no la, normally every week bath 1 time. So, see is it can bath for next week or not biggrin.gif. I like give a bath for my Bo Chai because of .... I can play with him biggrin.gif
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Not sure when i will be bathing mine, altho he seems relaxed and comfortable (exept when i first wake him up, grumpy laugh.gif)
Think i will wait another full week at LEAST to make sure hes fully adjusted with his new home before thinking about giving him a bath.

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Im guessing warm water is best for bathtime?

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QUOTE(Cimredopyh @ Nov 24 2007, 10:32 AM)
Not sure when i will be bathing mine, altho he seems relaxed and comfortable (exept when i  first wake him up, grumpy laugh.gif)
Think i will wait another full week at LEAST to make sure hes fully adjusted with his new home before thinking about giving him a bath.

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Im guessing warm water is best for bathtime?
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The best water is of course warm water. The best shampoo is to use puppy or baby shampoo that has oatmeal in it.

Bathing is easy once you get the hang of it. Put your hedgie in the sink. You can either fill it up with water till it reaches the hedgie's chin or you can use the shower. I have done both, and the shower works the best because it gets rid of the shampoo suds easier than pouring water onto the hedgie.... but don't do this on your new hedgehog lah coz it may freak it out if it is not accustom to baths yet.

Toothbrushes are the best.... but I use a dish brush ahaahh. Big and easy.
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QUOTE(Cimredopyh @ Nov 24 2007, 10:32 AM)
Not sure when i will be bathing mine, altho he seems relaxed and comfortable (exept when i  first wake him up, grumpy laugh.gif)
Think i will wait another full week at LEAST to make sure hes fully adjusted with his new home before thinking about giving him a bath.

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Im guessing warm water is best for bathtime?
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hmm... u got the point... at least let him really get to know us better first... k la.. try ur work then.. hehe
ur Demon also grumpy when u woke him up? mine too!! when i woke him up on the first day, he like wanna poke me n soo pissed off.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 24 2007, 11:06 AM)
Toothbrushes are the best.... but I use a dish brush ahaahh. Big and easy.
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Haha! dishbrush, awesome
I bought a teeny tiny soft bristle toothbrush with a rubber coated handle since i was scared anything else would hurt the hedgie, looks like i was being overly paranoid? laugh.gif New mom, what to do.

I also got a small bottle of no more tears baby shampoo since i was unsure if the shampoo i use for my cats was suitable , and plan to look around for some organic oatmeal for oatmeal baths anyone know a good type?
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Johnson & Johnson, yellow ( abit orange ) bottle will be the oatmeal shampoo. I'm using it rclxms.gif

When i give my Bo Chai bath, i will put him in 1 place let him pooo & pee there after that only start bath, if not.... u will see your shampoo water with poo ....... biggrin.gif
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i'm thinking of getting a hedgie (use my keyboard money...bye bye keyboard) after my finals....but i really need advise...dun reall know how to handle even after reading all the recommendation....are they easy to rare? do they get sick or injured easily??? i'm kinda worried bout the mites part....still considering....
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QUOTE(Lil'Maine @ Nov 24 2007, 05:42 PM)
i'm thinking of getting a hedgie (use my keyboard money...bye bye keyboard) after my finals....but i really need advise...dun reall know how to handle even after reading all the recommendation....are they easy to rare? do they get sick or injured easily??? i'm kinda worried bout the mites part....still considering....
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read up more lo..search google or yahoo..visit more site sure know de..
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wah...read read read oni....can input or not????hahaha later can't even apply....
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QUOTE(Lil'Maine @ Nov 24 2007, 07:22 PM)
wah...read read read oni....can input or not????hahaha later can't even apply....
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If you have genuine interest and concern for the animals well being u will find researching on it very interesting dont worry
....anyway if someone posts here all the info you need you will still have to "read" it..amirite??? laugh.gif

Click here for hedgehog Info

Read part 3 onwards

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QUOTE(Lil'Maine @ Nov 24 2007, 07:22 PM)
wah...read read read oni....can input or not????hahaha later can't even apply....
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dun expect ppl to spoon feed u step by step only
if u really interested to keep one, pls take initiative to read more and research more as this is a living thing ur dealing with
even if we got everything ready and prepare, u wont know what kinda thing which might happen therefore its better to learn more first before commiting on one rather than rushing to ur pc to ask when some shit happen

juz my 2 cents smile.gif
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i have read alot edi...gearing up for my future hedgie tongue.gif but i'm kinda scared....
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Hmm... the one i got is J&J with yellow sticker but if i recall correctly there is also an orange one which is the conditioning version of the yellow
QUOTE(vincent09 @ Nov 24 2007, 02:15 PM)
Johnson & Johnson, yellow ( abit orange ) bottle will be the oatmeal shampoo. I'm using it rclxms.gif
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Which is yours? im a little confused by your description rclxub.gif
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Cimredopyh, thank for the link...very informative....
dang...suppose to study for monday finals...end up reading bout hedgehogs oni...
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nothing to be scared of
when u tink ur ready juz get one wink.gif
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Sorry Cimredopyh notworthy.gif , i make mistake for that, I'm using that is Johnson & Johnson baby shampoo with wheatgerm. laugh.gif
The picture like this >
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The sticker there got a word " with wheatgerm " ( picture there look like don't have sweat.gif ).

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QUOTE(Cimredopyh @ Nov 24 2007, 12:51 PM)
Haha! dishbrush, awesome
I bought a teeny tiny soft bristle toothbrush with a rubber coated handle since i was scared anything else would hurt the hedgie, looks like i was being overly paranoid?  laugh.gif New mom, what to do.

I also got a small bottle of no more tears baby shampoo since i was unsure if the shampoo i use for my cats was suitable , and plan to look around for some organic oatmeal for oatmeal baths anyone know a good type?
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Hahah... for dish brush, you need to choose the softest you could find. I found an Ikea one... it has a suction cup at the base, only RM4.90 and it is not too hard. Does an effective job once mature coz their quills could be hard to clean with a tooth brush coz short and small. Takes time. My hedgies bath about 5 minutes each.

There are plenty of organic and safe shampoos for sale for dogs and cats, just you need to know where to find and get the money.... coz normally 1 bottle is like rm30 over or RM40 over.
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QUOTE(Cimredopyh @ Nov 24 2007, 01:51 PM)
Haha! dishbrush, awesome
I bought a teeny tiny soft bristle toothbrush with a rubber coated handle since i was scared anything else would hurt the hedgie, looks like i was being overly paranoid?  laugh.gif New mom, what to do.

I also got a small bottle of no more tears baby shampoo since i was unsure if the shampoo i use for my cats was suitable , and plan to look around for some organic oatmeal for oatmeal baths anyone know a good type?
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lol lenglui, you really did your research too well biggrin.gif. seems like demon's doing well there. you manja him too much hahahah smile.gif. im proud to see you guys post new and lots of pics of your hedgie. Keep them coming k! wink.gif


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QUOTE(Lil'Maine @ Nov 25 2007, 12:59 AM)
i have read alot edi...gearing up for my future hedgie tongue.gif but i'm kinda scared....
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all people starts with being inexperienced. Whats most important is to take action, you will learn it while in the process of taking care of them.

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Hmm, I was wondering, is it normal for hedgehogs to bite? ..
My hedgehog only bites my sister for some reason.

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Yes, especially the smells that's unfamilliar to them or they thought it's food.
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Np smile.gif that FAQ covers alot of what you will need to know before buying a hedgie, and also consistent with info from other sources

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Johnson & Johnson baby shampoo with wheatgerm. laugh.gif


Ohhh i see laugh.gif, Well thats good, wheatgerm is one of the best sources of vitamin E

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There are plenty of organic and safe shampoos for sale for dogs and cats, just you need to know where to find and get the money.... coz normally 1 bottle is like rm30 over or RM40 over.


Anything less than RM 100 is still ok tongue.gif (working with no financial commitments)
however i was thinking of organic oatmeal the edible type, what you do is soak it like ur making tea then strain the water to remove all the oatmeal and then bathe the hedgie with it, supposed to be very comforting and soothing esp during quilling (read about it on Chins&Quills forum)

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ol lenglui, you really did your research too well biggrin.gif. seems like demon's doing well there. you manja him too much hahahah smile.gif. im proud to see you guys post new and lots of pics of your hedgie. Keep them coming k! wink.gif


How not to manja hes SOO CUTE!!! laugh.gif

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same question here...
last nite when I'm not at home.. my housmate tangan gatal and play with ken ken.. resulted she's been bitten by ken.. haha..
and this morning also... when I play with ken.. he looks relax and just sit at my lap.. but when my friend came n touch him... he kena bite also.. lol

waaaa... haven't go n buy the shampoo.. gonna go buy tomorrow... hehe

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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 26 2007, 12:20 AM)
last nite when I'm not at home.. my housmate tangan gatal and play with ken ken.. resulted she's been bitten by ken.. haha..
and this morning also... when I play with ken.. he looks relax and just sit at my lap.. but when my friend came n touch him... he kena bite also.. lol
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QUOTE(Cimredopyh @ Nov 26 2007, 11:54 AM)
I dont know why but i find that very funny  laugh.gif
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Some hedgie will only bond with its owner, and its becoming increasingly apparent when they get older. Thats why for hedgie it is not adviseable to get an older one(more than 4 months old), since althought they can be incredibly tame and playful with their owner, they can suddenly change personality to cautious and hostile towards new owner scent.
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Oh i didnt mean that i found it unusual, I found it funny because her housemate that keeps harassing the hedgie got bitten, at the rate she was going it was bound to happen laugh.gif
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one question.... just now when I cleaning the cage and play with him for a while.. I his nail at the back right leg damn long!! -.-"
I was like.. 0.o was thinking to cute cuz only that leg the nail was longer than others leg.. but dunno ho to trim the nail..

any suggestion what kind of nail clipper if better for hedgie?
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Nov 26 2007, 04:16 PM)
one question.... just now when I cleaning the cage and play with him for a while.. I his nail at the back right leg damn long!! -.-"
I was like.. 0.o was thinking to cute cuz only that leg the nail was longer than others leg.. but dunno ho to trim the nail..

any suggestion what kind of nail clipper if better for hedgie?
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I read somewhere that said that normal human nail clipper can already.
Better to clip its nails right after you bath it cause at that time the nails are softer, hence easier to cut. ^^
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Yup. Normal clipper already can. Just make sure it's sharp enough to do it at one shot. May be you can search for those nail clipper for baby use. Cut the nails after bath. Like C_w_sam said, the nails are soft that time. So easier.
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cute hedgehog u got there.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 26 2007, 12:39 PM)
Since althought they can be incredibly tame and playful with their owner, they can suddenly change personality to cautious and hostile towards new owner scent.
Ya my Bo Chai also like that, if other ppl go near he will take alert, just sometime he still know is me and sleep at there nicely or stone at there biggrin.gif
I have no idea how to hold my Bo Chai leg for nail cutting..... He always say: " Let me go~~~~ "


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You have to trim the long nails on the back leg.... if you do not do so, it would break off by itself and hurt the hedgie coz it would break at the quick, which is the vein and that is painful.
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ok ok ....1 teeny lil question...if i get a hedgehog...then i go overseas for holiday...but i let me friend babysit for me...will my friend be able to hold my hedgie (will it bite) coz u guys said that it will bite ppl other than it's owner rite...if my friend knot touch it....will my hedgie be able to survive without owner touch for a few days?
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post Nov 28 2007, 12:40 PM

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guys..
yesterday while playing with sheimi, i noticed a little bald spot on his body? why did that happened, eh? is it because of mites? how to cure it?
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post Nov 28 2007, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Lil'Maine @ Nov 28 2007, 12:31 PM)
ok ok ....1 teeny lil question...if i get a hedgehog...then i go overseas for holiday...but i let me friend babysit for me...will my friend be able to hold my hedgie (will it bite) coz u guys said that it will bite ppl other than it's owner rite...if my friend knot touch it....will  my hedgie be able to survive without owner touch for a few days?
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Let me babysit for you, Haha... Jk... tongue.gif
How long is your holiday? If 1 week time shouldn't be a problem smile.gif

QUOTE(rumizu @ Nov 28 2007, 12:40 PM)
guys..
yesterday while playing with sheimi, i noticed a little bald spot on his body? why did that happened, eh? is it because of mites? how to cure it?
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You can use frontline to cure it
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post Nov 28 2007, 01:21 PM

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ryo..
sorry.. i mean, how to cure the bald spot
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post Nov 28 2007, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Lil'Maine @ Nov 28 2007, 12:31 PM)
ok ok ....1 teeny lil question...if i get a hedgehog...then i go overseas for holiday...but i let me friend babysit for me...will my friend be able to hold my hedgie (will it bite) coz u guys said that it will bite ppl other than it's owner rite...if my friend knot touch it....will  my hedgie be able to survive without owner touch for a few days?
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Actually, hedgehogs rarely bite. I babysit a few hedgehogs before, touched many hedgehogs that are not familiar with me, none has ever bit me but one of mine did when I forgot to wash my hands after touching some dogs.

You can let people babysit. Tame hedgehogs would not bite anyone unless their hands smell like some other animal or some chemical. The one about biting people that are not their owners.... that is kinda uncommon lah. It could be wrong handling or wrong touching. Never put your hand infront of a grumpy hedgehog, for sure it would in someway show it's anger....

QUOTE(rumizu @ Nov 28 2007, 12:40 PM)
guys..
yesterday while playing with sheimi, i noticed a little bald spot on his body? why did that happened, eh? is it because of mites? how to cure it?
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How big is the bald spot? are you sure it is mites? Sometimes sparseness can appear after quilling and it would grow back.
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post Nov 28 2007, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(rumizu @ Nov 28 2007, 01:21 PM)
ryo..
sorry.. i mean, how to cure the bald spot
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if it's caused by mites and after you've cure the mites, the quills will grow back
Does sheimi has dandruff?

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