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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - 21 November 2021] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019
Michael Carrick *Caretaker* [21 November 2021 - 02 December 2021]
Ralf Rangnick *Interim* [03 December 2021 - 22 May 2022]
Erik ten Hag [23 May 2022 - Current]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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1st in division 1 championship!
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post Aug 14 2022, 11:10 AM

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4-0....
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I bet next match after 4 - 0 Liv will just chill...

Or even 2 - 0, so that it make Man Utd looks not so bad (damage control?) and will maintain this form for much longer = more damage to Man Utd longer...

I also bet Brendford also didn't expect we so sucks until oopsie 4 - 0 us in first half...
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Frankly say, I don’t mind we lose the game
But not until this extend
I been lowering my expectations but this is too much to bear.

Hope ETH are bold enough to drop underperform player. Otherwise he gonna follow RR footstep sooner o later.

If the manager dare to drop underperform star and replace with hunger youngsters, nobody will blame him. All arrow gonna point at the board for not backing him.

But right now, he Jz gonna bear all the blame due to his choosing starting 11. Nobody know what happen between the board n manager to keep playing under perform star. But it Jz suck max.
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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Aug 14 2022, 11:13 AM)
I bet next match after 4 - 0 Liv will just chill...

Or even 2 - 0, so that it make Man Utd looks not so bad (damage control?) and will maintain this form for much longer = more damage to Man Utd longer...

I also bet Brendford also didn't expect we so sucks until oopsie 4 - 0 us in first half...
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Losing the game with this absurd performance

To make it worse, ETH tried players that got 3 managers sacked.

Added by silly board.

Gone Gone United
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post Aug 14 2022, 11:30 AM

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Next match player change should be below
Martinez > CDM
LB Malacia > Shaw
CB Varane pair with Bailly
LW Garnacho > Rashford

Wish to change others but our backup is equally shit
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Aug 14 2022, 11:25 AM)
Losing the game with this absurd performance

To make it worse, ETH tried players that got 3 managers sacked.

Added by silly board.

Gone Gone United
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And the captain played!
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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 14 2022, 11:31 AM)
And the captain played!
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Why maguire have to start even for England???
This fella is a fraud
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QUOTE(Darren @ Aug 14 2022, 11:14 AM)
Frankly say, I don’t mind we lose the game
But not until this extend
I been lowering my expectations but this is too much to bear.

Hope ETH are bold enough to drop underperform player. Otherwise he gonna follow RR footstep sooner o later.

If the manager dare to drop underperform star and replace with hunger youngsters, nobody will blame him. All arrow gonna point at the board for not backing him.

But right now, he Jz gonna bear all the blame due to his choosing starting 11. Nobody know what happen between the board n manager to keep playing under perform star. But it Jz suck max.
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RR already said to rebuild you need young players with hunger for success
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 14 2022, 10:48 AM)

In closing, sorry to sound harsh about this, if you are one of those going in on Ten Hag not playing our academy youngsters you need to realize this isn't a video game. Sir Alex did it and it because football history because it was something so improbable in the 90s which was a different era. Even more so now in the 21st century. And if youre saying sack ETH, you need to explain who you are bringing in that is going to change things for the better.
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You also need to realise not all asking for youth are based on playing a video game. Point it, manager should be able to recognise and play the best team available to him. IF there is no player that can be more useful than mctominay, then the whole academy is pretty shit. Not only should we see the player's experience and ability, but how adept he is at the requested style. Mctom is 100% not suitable, so are you saying noone else can be moulded better to eth style? If so, then yea, eth not to blame. Because cannot be eth is such a weakass manager who plays player like mctom JUST because of his status in the club right? Right?? But then again, maguire is still captain and NOTHING eth does shows that he is the strong hard handed type of manager that the club NEEDS. So, my initial point, I would believe eth is playing it safe not to offend the higher ups or the more senior players rather than doing everything he can to progress.

He still has to be given time, but at current point, he looks very unambitious and if this is what the club is looking for, then no point changing manager. In fact, should have just kept OGS.

RR had a good attitude that the club needs, but maybe not enough tactical ability. But instead, he was removed and now got an ETH that so far looks like the epitome of the board. Targets high profile expensive players that cannot get then blame it on the transfer activity.
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Aug 14 2022, 11:38 AM)
You also need to realise not all asking for youth are based on playing a video game. Point it, manager should be able to recognise and play the best team available to him. IF there is no player that can be more useful than mctominay, then the whole academy is pretty shit. Not only should we see the player's experience and ability, but how adept he is at the requested style. Mctom is 100% not suitable, so are you saying noone else can be moulded better to eth style? If so, then yea, eth not to blame. Because cannot be eth is such a weakass manager who plays player like mctom JUST because of his status in the club right? Right?? But then again, maguire is still captain and NOTHING eth does shows that he is the strong hard handed type of manager that the club NEEDS. So, my initial point, I would believe eth is playing it safe not to offend the higher ups or the more senior players rather than doing everything he can to progress.

He still has to be given time, but at current point, he looks very unambitious and if this is what the club is looking for, then no point changing manager. In fact, should have just kept OGS.

RR had a good attitude that the club needs, but maybe not enough tactical ability. But instead, he was removed and now got an ETH that so far looks like the epitome of the board. Targets high profile expensive players that cannot get then blame it on the transfer activity.
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i think at the same time oso fans need to manage expectations on signings

we're not the previous man utd who can attract world class talents right away (even Haaland and Bellingham also opted for Borussia when we want to sign them)

Stop living in the past and look for hidden gems or future talent that we can rely on for years .. at the same time accept some stop gaps signings while we rebuild for the core future players ... other than that is just daydreaming jer (don't be beggar cant be chooser and overpay)

every mistake/misstep will drag man utd to even lower tier
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The only way I see it is to fully restructure the club. By saying so, relegate to division 1 or division 2. Let it sink there for few years like Leeds and maybe just maybe they come back alive like salty fish
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QUOTE(CounterRealm @ Aug 14 2022, 11:52 AM)
The only way I see it is to fully restructure the club. By saying so, relegate to division 1 or division 2. Let it sink there for few years like Leeds and maybe just maybe they come back alive like salty fish
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We are way too big for that. We needed RR to run us like a German club. Now we have no direction, just letting things happen.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 14 2022, 11:43 AM)
i think at the same time oso fans need to manage expectations on signings

we're not the previous man utd who can attract world class talents right away (even Haaland and Bellingham also opted for Borussia when we want to sign them)

Stop living in the past and look for hidden gems or future talent that we can rely on for years .. at the same time accept some stop gaps signings while we rebuild for the core future players ... other than that is just daydreaming jer (don't be beggar cant be chooser and overpay)

every mistake/misstep will drag man utd to even lower tier
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That's one of the issues i see with eth or the scouting team. Go for de jong nvm, but when cant get him, why no other options. Scouting team has produced zero realistic options? Or eth just dismissing all of them and only wants shiny expensive toys?
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Kih3... Based on my observation, man uts players especially luka shaw , rashford , maguire play using his own understanding not how eth wanted...
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 14 2022, 11:57 AM)
We are way too big for that. We needed RR to run us like a German club. Now we have no direction, just letting things happen.
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RR too honest and brutal bout the club ... owner and board cant take it


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No wonder 00s kids nowadays only support successful teams like Manchester City, Liverpool or Chelsea.

Most of us United fans nowadays are from older generations. bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Aug 14 2022, 12:32 PM)
No wonder 00s kids nowadays only support successful teams like Manchester City, Liverpool or Chelsea.

Most of us United fans nowadays are from older generations. bangwall.gif
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newer generations can only support when win

older generations tend to support even when lose

my stereotype
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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 14 2022, 12:37 PM)
I nak bukak Facebook pun takut tau 🤣
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I don't even dare to mention anything about football to my whatsapp group lol.. Plenty of MU supporters there, scared they will kill me haha
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For once I 70% agree with this yet another underbite


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QUOTE(imin @ Aug 14 2022, 12:52 PM)
I don't even dare to mention anything about football to my whatsapp group lol.. Plenty of MU supporters there, scared they will kill me haha
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We should have changed friends. I have a lot of Liverpool fans constantly mocking me 🤣
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QUOTE(john_white @ Aug 14 2022, 12:11 PM)
Kih3... Based on my observation, man uts players especially luka shaw , rashford , maguire play using his own understanding not how eth wanted...
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Even IF fdj comes, the players mentioned may not smart enough to look and pass to him

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Gary nev blaming the owners for the results... no mention of any players
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Aug 14 2022, 01:10 PM)
Even IF fdj comes, the players mentioned may not smart enough to look and pass to him
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if de jong come, eth can remove maguire, mcfred, rashford, bruno, shaw.. its time for donny to shine

that 3 midfield must be martinez, de jong ..with donny at 10. wide garnacho left , sancho right

tom heaton gk, dumfries at the right, malacia left, varane partner with baily ..

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First of all, time to recognise we are a shitty team. Last season DDG and Ronaldo was OK, now even they infected by the virus.

Is it the fault of the owners, YES. Why? Isn’t it the fault of owners if your dogs bite people, misbehave and isn’t it the fault of owners if the employees don’t do their jobs?

Ok, the buck must stop somewhere. Time to wake up and smell the relegation roses. As a fan I don’t mind watching a different set of first eleven who are passionate to play. But not this entire batch. We don’t go to the same restaurant if they serve the same rotten food every time.

But there is no shame in admitting it is crap when it is crap. I don’t even want to talk about recruitment anymore.
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 14 2022, 01:17 PM)
if de jong come, eth can remove maguire, mcfred, rashford, bruno, shaw.. its time for donny to shine

that 3 midfield must be martinez, de jong ..with donny at 10. wide garnacho left , sancho right

tom heaton gk, dumfries at the right, malacia left, varane partner with baily ..
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I hope so..it is clear shaw/rashford/mctom/fred and bruno will not pass to vdb..and it may happen to fdj

Benching maguire already huge achievement to start for ETH
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 14 2022, 01:16 PM)
Gary nev blaming the owners for the results... no mention of any players
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Why blame owners? They have done everything the fans wanted. Marquee signings every window, bringing back CR7 etc


Let’s swap with FSG as owners?



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Noticed that the Captain will not do post match interview after defeat..

Anyone know when was the last time he did one?

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 14 2022, 01:37 PM)
Noticed that the Captain will not do post match interview after defeat..

Anyone know when was the last time he did one?
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Takde telo is it?
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Eth is the one play the first 11 week in week out. So, it's unavoidable not to vent frustration on him. Now is kasi chance period. He is behaving like ole, say nice thing to keep the job but without result. Not even strong enough to drop maguire.

Everyone know owner is the problem but nothing can be done on them. The first 11 play like shit and its murtough problem? He is the bigger part of problem but eth share responsibility as well.

Replace maguire with varane/baily. Mcfred with lindeloft/martinez/Zidane/Gardner/some unknown. Shaw with malacia. Bruno with vdb/fred/eriksen. Are these names mentioned far worse and not worthy for even game time against mid table opponent?

If lose with new starting 11, no fans will vent on eth. Yesterday is a total failure. We did nothing on second half to even score 1. Its like bunch of players pass around trying to needle through a block of Brentford players. And kena counter.

Dropping mctom and only in bringing him back is a joke. Like rr, try drop mcfred, not working after some games, mcfred returned. These we already gone through. And repeating what rr did again hoping different outcome.

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 14 2022, 01:37 PM)
Noticed that the Captain will not do post match interview after defeat..

Anyone know when was the last time he did one?
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no need, fans dont wanna see his face. u see his face after he concedes those goals. no reaction one, jus stunned n sad. As captain you got to encourage your players, push them. this kind of captain will only mourn and diam diam after concede goals
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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 14 2022, 01:50 PM)
Takde telo is it?
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I dont know, to me it looks like he want the armband for the status it brings.. without doing any of the responsibilities it demands..
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Aug 14 2022, 02:06 PM)
no need, fans dont wanna see his face. u see his face after he concedes those goals. no reaction one, jus stunned n sad. As captain you got to encourage your players, push them. this kind of captain will only mourn and diam diam after concede goals
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Aug 14 2022, 11:38 AM)
You also need to realise not all asking for youth are based on playing a video game. Point it, manager should be able to recognise and play the best team available to him. IF there is no player that can be more useful than mctominay, then the whole academy is pretty shit. Not only should we see the player's experience and ability, but how adept he is at the requested style. Mctom is 100% not suitable, so are you saying noone else can be moulded better to eth style? If so, then yea, eth not to blame. Because cannot be eth is such a weakass manager who plays player like mctom JUST because of his status in the club right? Right?? But then again, maguire is still captain and NOTHING eth does shows that he is the strong hard handed type of manager that the club NEEDS. So, my initial point, I would believe eth is playing it safe not to offend the higher ups or the more senior players rather than doing everything he can to progress.

He still has to be given time, but at current point, he looks very unambitious and if this is what the club is looking for, then no point changing manager. In fact, should have just kept OGS.

RR had a good attitude that the club needs, but maybe not enough tactical ability. But instead, he was removed and now got an ETH that so far looks like the epitome of the board. Targets high profile expensive players that cannot get then blame it on the transfer activity.
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I wonder who higher up are so blind to make the manager play those underperform star?

Maguire I understand la. Captain ma
Shaw? What?
Fred? What?
Mctominay? What?
Rashford can understand la. Previous golden boy.
Out of 5, at least 3 are droppable.
But they still start the game instead of other

VDB, garner, garnacho oso not starting
Even the sub oso late.
I really wonder if this is Man Utd new culture for late substitute?

https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-unit...rentford-defeat

Bullshit
Some of them not even in my starting 11
Let alone sub them at half time 🤣

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 14 2022, 02:05 PM)
Dropping mctom and only in bringing him back is a joke. Like rr, try drop mcfred, not working after some games, mcfred returned. These we already gone through. And repeating what rr did again hoping different outcome.
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RR are even worst treated by the board.
0player of his choice signed.
Not even backup.
Expect miracle.
Joker.

If I am the owner, I will sack all the board member in the club. Not even 1 left. But too bad. Football are not our owner interest. Money is.

Completely useless and speechless
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 14 2022, 01:37 PM)
Noticed that the Captain will not do post match interview after defeat..

Anyone know when was the last time he did one?
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last game? cant remember

read that there's only 1 post match interview per game and DDG requested to take this one
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No wonder 00s kids nowadays only support successful teams like Manchester City, Liverpool or Chelsea.

Most of us United fans nowadays are from older generations. bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 14 2022, 01:16 PM)
Gary nev blaming the owners for the results... no mention of any players
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As much as I dislike the Glazers, this is more DoF and the players.
Neville no longer has any credibility to me. He's trying to play to the gallery to restore his standing among the fans after the Ole fiasco.

Try giving Simon Jordan a listen instead.

QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 14 2022, 01:37 PM)
Noticed that the Captain will not do post match interview after defeat..

Anyone know when was the last time he did one?
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DDG requested to do a post match interview even though he was not scheduled for one.
DDG was one of the main factors we lost, if not the main, I must give him credit to requesting to come up and face the music. Our Captain on the other hand....wait for his Facebook post of "We go again".

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Gary nev blaming the owners for the results... no mention of any players
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However, the problem now is from head to toe.


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QUOTE(Matchy @ Aug 14 2022, 03:20 PM)
How's the 2nd half performance? Went to sleep after first half. yawn.gif
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Masuk just to put salt on the wound just show your character. Kudos for rival fan who show some respect by not doing that
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 14 2022, 02:25 PM)
Yes. I do feel like the resident oldie already, been supporting since Ron Atkinson's time.
As much as I dislike the Glazers, this is more DoF and the players.
Neville no longer has any credibility to me. He's trying to play to the gallery to restore his standing among the fans after the Ole fiasco.

Try giving Simon Jordan a listen instead.
DDG requested to do a post match interview even though he was not scheduled for one.
DDG was one of the main factors we lost, if not the main, I must give him credit to requesting to come up and face the music. Our Captain on the other hand....wait for his Facebook post of "We go again".
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Personally i dont think he is the main reason why we lost, the first goal was all on him no doubts, but we didnt score a single goal. Frank did his homework and ETH didnt, they pressed Eriksen when we tried to build up from the back. I was screaming for another CB when they scored the second goal, we dont have the correct players to play this system. If FDJ was at that Eriksen spot, i feel we wouldn't have conceded that second goal but we would probably still lose the game, pathetic performance from everyone including the manager.
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Just rumors.
But if it is true, he really gamble hard.

For me FDJ 99.99% won't come.
Dunno where does the Ten Hag confidence from.

But again it is just rumors, may be it is totally different stories.

Come or not, good luck to Ten Hag.

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Just rumors.
But if it is true, he really gamble hard.

For me FDJ 99.99% won't come.
Dunno where does the Ten Hag confidence from.

But again it is just rumors, may be it is totally different stories.

Come or not, good luck to Ten Hag.
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Dude if he doesnt come, you dont have to imagine the uproar ...

I feel he is still coming. We still need at least one attacking signing.
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Aug 14 2022, 12:32 PM)
No wonder 00s kids nowadays only support successful teams like Manchester City, Liverpool or Chelsea.

Most of us United fans nowadays are from older generations. bangwall.gif
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Now that you mentioned it, I realised there's literally 0 of my friends' kids support MU, including my super die-hard MU fan friends.. Must really hurt them seeing their own kids laughed at their team lol
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 14 2022, 05:40 PM)


Just rumors.
But if it is true, he really gamble hard.

For me FDJ 99.99% won't come.
Dunno where does the Ten Hag confidence from.

But again it is just rumors, may be it is totally different stories.

Come or not, good luck to Ten Hag.
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With this, I expect last day extremely last minute deal.
Not necessary panic buy, but finally Ten Hag press the button after confirming FDJ won't come.

Most probably Gakpo.
If lucky, plus one more panic buy.

Tbh la, for me FDJ won't come.
Barca already able to register 5 out of 6 new players.
They are not desperate to sell FDJ anymore, they can sell other players to get the registration done for the last new signing.
And FDJ intention is always to stay.

Yet again it is just rumours.
No body know what really happened behind the scene.

But if u ask me, I would rather believe this.
Even though someone keep blaming the transfer team, they in fact already prepared 80M for FDJ, so there is 80M to buy other players since he doesn't wanna come.
Just that Ten Hag gamble hard on that 0.001% possibility, and on hold all other transfer.

It explained better.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 14 2022, 06:22 PM)
With this, I expect last day extremely last minute deal.
Not necessary panic buy, but finally Ten Hag press the button after confirming FDJ won't come.

Most probably Gakpo.
If lucky, plus one more panic buy.

Tbh la, for me FDJ won't come.
Barca already able to register 5 out of 6 new players.
They are not desperate to sell FDJ anymore, they can sell other players to get the registration done for the last new signing.
And FDJ intention is always to stay.

Yet again it is just rumours.
No body know what really happened behind the scene.

But if u ask me, I would rather believe this.
Even though someone keep blaming the transfer team, they in fact already prepared 80M for FDJ, so there is 80M to buy other players since he doesn't wanna come.
Just that Ten Hag gamble hard on that 0.001% possibility, and on hold all other transfer.

It explained better.
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We want to play modern football … but we also need modern structure

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Aug 14 2022, 01:35 PM)
Why blame owners? They have done everything the fans wanted. Marquee signings every window, bringing back CR7 etc
Let’s swap with FSG as owners?
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Both owners sucks. Gnev as usual shifting the blame to owner.. i guess to justify buddy ole was previously not at fault
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QUOTE(aa1985 @ Aug 14 2022, 03:15 PM)
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Stil.got class of 2015 2016 obe at helm
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Let’s move back to few seasons back during pandemic time, whole world were fully lockdown, EPL was forced to play behind close door without fans, the time where we played “well” and finished 3rd during 2019/20 where second half season we were playing closed door and 2nd in 2020/21 where we playing most of the season behind close door. These were the time we played well, come back and even thrashed Southampton, when lockdown was lifted and fans start entering stadium during 2021, the time where the performance starting to decline. The rest was history.

The players just can’t cope under the pressure and live fans, they looks lost whenever they are under pressure, always wondering “to play manager’s style or to play our own way”…..
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CM/CDM should be address no doubt but yet only sign eriksen.

But im more disappointed wt players who really should step up but have not.. since last season dunno what happen to bruno. So invisible. Last game also wasteful and invisible

Then sancho.. nowhere near form wt dortmund. Looked confused dunno what to do

Rashford too of coz.. look so promising few year back but now falling more and more.

ETH need to revived this 3 player to hv any chance of staying and sign CM/CDM of coz

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 14 2022, 03:52 PM)
Personally i dont think he is the main reason why we lost, the first goal was all on him no doubts, but we didnt score a single goal. Frank did his homework and ETH didnt, they pressed Eriksen when we tried to build up from the back. I was screaming for another CB when they scored the second goal, we dont have the correct players to play this system. If FDJ was at that Eriksen spot, i feel we wouldn't have conceded that second goal but we would probably still lose the game, pathetic performance from everyone including the manager.
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You are right when you say we don't have the players to play the system. Implementation mismatch.

News coming out that things are getting tense between ETH and the club hierachy. ETH feels let down by the transfers and now has to make decisions based on available budget.
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Hoping eth to retire aje, let the club burn the whole season.

No manager in their sane mind want to take over the club and manage with this shithousery 🤣

P/s: eth need to take the blame for giving the armband to maguire. He don’t know how to organise and give direction. Mmg la disorganised the team 🤣

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Most funny thing is Barcelona only able to draw on their first game and xavi are calling for more signing despite kounde still unable to register.

So nice to be a manager who having the board backup so heavily in a season even the squad he inherit consider top 4 team d.

But how naive for him to keep request for extra signing even kounde still unable to register.

Compare to Barcelona, our loss is expected but while Barcelona is not. Hope it continue to drag Barcelona down together with us.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 14 2022, 11:57 AM)
We are way too big for that. We needed RR to run us like a German club. Now we have no direction, just letting things happen.
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We still talking about us is a big club? Won’t surprise me if we keep losing and relegated becoming the most talked thing in the next 20 years. Lol
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We still talking about us is a big club? Won’t surprise me if we keep losing and relegated becoming the most talked thing in the next 20 years. Lol
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QUOTE(onepack @ Aug 14 2022, 07:42 PM)
CM/CDM should be address no doubt but yet only sign eriksen.

But im more disappointed wt players who really should step up but have not.. since last season dunno what happen to bruno. So invisible. Last game also wasteful and invisible

Then sancho.. nowhere near form wt dortmund. Looked confused dunno what to do

Rashford too of coz.. look so promising few year back but now falling more and more.

ETH need to revived this 3 player to hv any chance of staying and sign CM/CDM of coz
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Sancho fan's favourite mahhh..hyped by media..naive fans fell for it and ask why the club dont quickly sign him..kek...havent learn anything from the past failure like sanchez, di maria


Kesian to the welcome ETH mood...things turn so sour so fast..lel
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 14 2022, 08:19 PM)
I actually don't mind relegation if it means getting rid of the Glazers. I'd watch the games in the Championship.
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Sancho fan's favourite mahhh..hyped by media..naive fans fell for it and ask why the club dont quickly sign him..kek...havent learn anything from the past failure like sanchez, di maria
Kesian to the welcome ETH mood...things turn so sour so fast..lel
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Ahh sancho, Ole’s signing

The best performance i seen from him is against watford loss last season … with vdb partnering him for the intelligence run and pass
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A long read of the history of Glazer's takeover.

It all started because of a racehorse.

sos

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 14 2022, 08:19 PM)
I actually don't mind relegation if it means getting rid of the Glazers. I'd watch the games in the Championship.
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Bold statement
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Nah, Ten Hag not learning fast enough as I expected.
He shud stop thinking about reviving those 5~6 deadwood.

It is like we have 5~6 Dele Ali, no use even keep training.
They have totally lost their passion for football.

The more practical solution is to replace them one by one slowly within 2 seasons.

Hopefully the almost certain 3rd lost to pool will make his head even clearer.
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Bold statement
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Lingardino & Henderson starts for Forest
Doubt if Botak team can even win against them
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See if Henderson tangkap katak
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Aug 14 2022, 12:32 PM)
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Most of us United fans nowadays are from older generations. bangwall.gif
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Btw, very early discussion for pool match.
I can see the only way is to play 901, all 9 players on own half.
With that lost 1~2 goals already considered as win.

If Ten Hag decided to play "normally", prepare for another 6 ~ 8 goals lost.
Hope he get it right.
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user posted image

Err ... Is this real?
No way right, it must be photoshopped right?

Ya, surely Photoshoped.
Can see the 6 yard box line has disappeared under the leg of Brentford player.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 14 2022, 09:22 PM)
Btw, very early discussion for pool match.
I can see the only way is to play 901, all 9 players on own half.
With that lost 1~2 goals already considered as win.

If Ten Hag decided to play "normally", prepare for another 6 ~ 8 goals lost.
Hope he get it right.
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Last year RR n Ole been criticised for parking the bus even before the game start. Looking for draw only.

If I am ETH, I rather go as usual n try get some fan faith. With current team, 9at own half doesn’t guarantee clean sheet though. I rather Either you win big or u lose all.
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QUOTE(Winter-3 @ Aug 14 2022, 08:40 PM)
A long read of the history of Glazer's takeover.

It all started because of a racehorse.

sos
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Henderson saved a penalty - no tangkap katak
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https://bit.ly/3dbiX1Z

See if Henderson tangkap katak
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Man's just saved a penalty.
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Man's just saved a penalty.
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That what he is, the best Goalie for newly promoted and championship team..
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Botak shipped out wrong keeper
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even forest transfer activity was way more imppresive than MU
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Ajax doin good as well.. not that hard to takeover from ETH?
Not like replacing SAF.. only time will tell..
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...op-running.html

Thats what you get from overpaying a player. Funny though the way he stop running. If our player did what he did, dunno what will happen

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 15 2022, 12:21 AM)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...op-running.html

Thats what you get from overpaying a player. Funny though the way he stop running. If our player did what he did, dunno what will happen
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Nothing gonna happen, Rashy did it many times and he's about to get new bumper contract renewal..
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I actually don't mind relegation if it means getting rid of the Glazers. I'd watch the games in the Championship.
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damn fergie lagi. haih sad. monday blues cuz of work. open football news open facebook all MU screwed up news. zzzz
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See, rumours again, with totally opposite what I posted previously.

Sometimes say he is the one who refuse to press the button for more transfers, bcuz scare no money for FDJ deal.

Sometimes say he is already pressed the button, asking for more players.

Rumours x 3, never know which is correct one.

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Not just on transfers, United board messed up on their PR moves now.. laugh.gif
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Bro, don't kidding man, lol.

Again, just rumours.
Yet I think all fans will be more than happy if it is true.
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With so much happening in the world of socmed it’s gonna be rough ride for all of us. I suggest you turn off all socmed apps especially twitter & tiktok. The banters are gonna be enormous. We reap what we sow for years of mocking pool. And I don’t remember them being this bad during their “rebuilding” phase.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 15 2022, 12:21 AM)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...op-running.html

Thats what you get from overpaying a player. Funny though the way he stop running. If our player did what he did, dunno what will happen
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i saw the video. fuh. that disrespect to the other teammates. wonder what the owner feels when see this body language.
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That conte vs tuchel used to be SAF Arsene hahaah
So much passion. Win

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That conte vs tuchel used to be SAF Arsene hahaah
So much passion. Win
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only manage to saw the video. both shake hand then start? one of they trash talk?
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Not just on transfers, United board messed up on their PR moves now..  laugh.gif
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False news or not
We can see cr7 negative attitude and body language every time the team leak goals. Lucky that he is not a captain
But then, existing Captain doesn't even show leadership as well


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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Aug 15 2022, 09:12 AM)
False news or not
We can see cr7 negative attitude and body language every time the team leak goals.   Lucky that he is not a captain
But then, existing Captain doesn't even show leadership as well
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If I am forward I also feel disgusted with the way we concede. If no show face, still clap hand inspire them? He did when we are 0-1 or 0-2 i think.

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i saw the video. fuh. that disrespect to the other teammates. wonder what the owner feels when see this body language.
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From Mbappe's contract, he is the owner already. It's Mbappe FC. He decides who the managers will be. The players who don't pass to him should be reprimanded.

Unfortunately, this reminds me of Rashford. There was this one instance, maybe against Villa, that he just stopped running and continued to jog into the area. Goalkeeper spilled the ball and if he had continued the run, it would have been a free shot on goal. But because he stopped running, his positioning was out to capitalize and GK recovered the ball.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 15 2022, 09:28 AM)
From Mbappe's contract, he is the owner already. It's Mbappe FC. He decides who the managers will be. The players who don't pass to him should be reprimanded.

Unfortunately, this reminds me of Rashford. There was this one instance, maybe against Villa, that he just stopped running and continued to jog into the area. Goalkeeper spilled the ball and if he had continued the run, it would have been a free shot on goal. But because he stopped running, his positioning was out to capitalize and GK recovered the ball.
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rashford, maguire, shaw - whole season shit. ok rashford available half season only.

still get to play and start.
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If I am forward I also feel disgusted with the way we concede. If no show face, still clap hand inspire them? He did when we are 0-1 or 0-2 i think.
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Being a senior player in the team, don't sulk. Instead motivate and encourage the team to buck up and play better.

Look at players with good leadership.
See how they react when the team is down.
Bryan Robson, Steve Bruce, Keane, vidic, etc.

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man... the gua is really uncomfortable... lol... stay inside for 3 weeks plus is tough... lol... this weekend match continue stay inside gua... fuck everybody in the club lol... this is just like RR time... when implement new tactics, the players all failed to follow and kasi screw up.. i dont believe this is what ETH taught them for the past 2-3 mths... but the players mess it up big time for him... i dont believe maguire, mcfred, shaw, ddg are suitable to his tactics... these players already been playing counter attacking half of their life... can see how ddg quite awkward when need him to play the sweeper keeper role...
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Being a senior player in the team, don't sulk.  Instead motivate and encourage the team to buck up and play better.

Look at players with good leadership.
See how they react when the team is down.
Bryan Robson, Steve Bruce, Keane, vidic, etc.
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I like they names you quoted who were all Captains.
Wonder where was our Captain? biggrin.gif
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I like they names you quoted who were all Captains.
Wonder where was our Captain? biggrin.gif
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That's why I said existing Captain is not a captain quality.

The names I quoted were my most respected captains.
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That's why I said existing Captain is not a captain quality.

The names I quoted were my most respected captains.
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Not even cr7 or Bruno. There's two sulk queen.


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i dont believe shaw and mctom got such clause... lol the rest i believe... haha... anyhow the first 11 damn sucks except the new players...

i dunno how to survive this season as man utd fans... the sad thing is that arteta finally get the time to make his team play like man city.... and our team neither here nor there... continue chg manager again and the same cycle continues...
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Whoever came up and agree with this type of agreement is stupid.
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The same management that gave Phil Jones a new 5 year contract even though he's been sitting on the medical table for the past 3 years.

If they can give Jones that new contract, simple guaranteed minutes to British players is easy.
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False news or not
We can see cr7 negative attitude and body language every time the team leak goals.  Lucky that he is not a captain
But then, existing Captain doesn't even show leadership as well
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huh? wow why suddenly everybody turns to cristiano like he is the real problem?? not a captain quality? wow did maguire captained that england squad?
wait a minute, who is the captain for portugal? really? negative attitude? a full clip showing he wants to go to the fans but after realized the team got booed he make a u-turn ... after got trashed 4 nil and u think not clapping to ur fans is a huge problem and can ruin the team performance? really? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

this fans are amazing .. this is what the glazers wanted .. switch the blame to others

during the game if u noticed when we are trailing 2 goals, he shouted to the players to keep going and get a goal with his hand gesture "1 GOAL! GET 1 GOAL!" to change the momentum .. guess what maguire was doing? nothing as like "not my fault"..

this fans really unbelievable. i hope all we fans get our wish comes true, got his contract terminated and go to other club maybe chelsea, and score a hattrick against this club. we dont deserved him. it was a mistake.
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 15 2022, 09:53 AM)
huh? wow why suddenly everybody turns to cristiano like he is the real problem?? not a captain quality? wow did maguire captained that england squad?
wait a minute, who is the captain for portugal? really? negative attitude? a full clip showing he wants to go to the fans but after realized the team got booed he make a u-turn ... after got trashed 4 nil and u think not clapping to ur fans is a huge problem and can ruin the team performance? really?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

this fans are amazing .. this is what the glazers wanted .. switch the blame to others

during the game if u noticed when we are trailing 2 goals, he shouted to the players to keep going and get a goal with his hand gesture "1 GOAL! GET 1 GOAL!" to change the momentum .. guess what maguire was doing? nothing as like "not my fault"..

this fans really unbelievable. i hope all we fans get our wish comes true, got his contract terminated and go to other club maybe chelsea, and score a hattrick against this club. we dont deserved him. it was a mistake.
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i feel cr7 deserves better than this club currently... even back to sporting also a better than us... lol... the core players that play every minutes but cant adjust to the new tactics are all in fault... they are professional footballers... how long they need to implement ETH tactics i wonder... one whole season??? mad.gif mad.gif
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Lol

Said ronaldo and others are not captain materials

Nvr once "Ronaldo is a problem" was mentioned

Unbelievable that some ppl will go extra mile to include this as argument … like subconsciously you feel the need to defend Ronaldo like siapa makan cili dia rasa pedas

I wonder who is trying to distract the actual topic?

But anyway, a captain is much more than just gesturing teammates on the pitch … there are other aspects to be considered off the pitch, dressing room, during training etc. Also, his contract is due soon and he's not staying with us whether you believe or not he wanted to get away from here since July ...

Captain in Portugal doesn’t really mean anything since he is the biggest name and player for the country … as if the manager has other option… as for captain for england, i dun pretend I have the brain to understand southgate’s intelligence

Last but not least, Ole's appointment, signings and decision set us back for at least 3-5 years, when he's really brought in to steady the ship after JM ...

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Bullshit. If no mctom, then I believe. Mctom gaji 20k saja lol
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i mean it's quite easy to rile up some fans u know

like u know it's rubbish source to gain views but you still read it to get angry

like the bicycle meme tongue.gif

been advocating to just read Tier 1 / Tier 2 sources for the ease of mind/heart nod.gif
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 14 2022, 09:22 PM)
Btw, very early discussion for pool match.
I can see the only way is to play 901, all 9 players on own half.
With that lost 1~2 goals already considered as win.

If Ten Hag decided to play "normally", prepare for another 6 ~ 8 goals lost.
Hope he get it right.
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on paper, theres no one. just switch to 433 with 1-on-1 and get the players to play aggresive. of course need to benched ronaldo, or dont list him at all.
start with change of GK, fill up fred+martinez+eriksen in the midfield 3, get garnacho and sancho to play wide with rashford as CF. need his speed and finishing to play a long ball. back four, no maguire please. would start varane and baily with malacia and williams.
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 15 2022, 09:53 AM)
huh? wow why suddenly everybody turns to cristiano like he is the real problem?? not a captain quality? wow did maguire captained that england squad?
wait a minute, who is the captain for portugal? really? negative attitude? a full clip showing he wants to go to the fans but after realized the team got booed he make a u-turn ... after got trashed 4 nil and u think not clapping to ur fans is a huge problem and can ruin the team performance? really?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

this fans are amazing .. this is what the glazers wanted .. switch the blame to others

during the game if u noticed when we are trailing 2 goals, he shouted to the players to keep going and get a goal with his hand gesture "1 GOAL! GET 1 GOAL!" to change the momentum .. guess what maguire was doing? nothing as like "not my fault"..

this fans really unbelievable. i hope all we fans get our wish comes true, got his contract terminated and go to other club maybe chelsea, and score a hattrick against this club. we dont deserved him. it was a mistake.
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really hope he can go back to rm to play his cl. stil lgot good 1 2 years in him. definitely this club's current state doesnt deserve him. since the club and media love mediocre english only

maguire can fukoff and lisandro can try play at the fdj spot that eth wants pls.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 15 2022, 10:31 AM)
really hope he can go back to rm to play his cl. stil lgot good 1 2 years in him. definitely this club's current state doesnt deserve him. since the club and media love mediocre english only

maguire can fukoff and lisandro can try play at the fdj spot that eth wants pls.
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you didn't read news bout Perez's reaction bout CR7 coming back to CL?
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Ready for another massacre at Old Trafford next week? TBH, get raped by Liverpool or City are common theme these days. But when the likes of Brighton and Brentford do us a numbers, that's another new level of low.

Damage limitation, be more pragmatic or trust your philosophy, I hope ETH trust his players and stick to his style of play.

I'm in the rock bottom now. Still, will watch the game. And like my beloved MJ said “If you expect disappointment, then you can never really be disappointed.”
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QUOTE(BartoCastro @ Aug 15 2022, 10:33 AM)
Ready for another massacre at Old Trafford next week? TBH, get raped by Liverpool or City are common theme these days. But when the likes of Brighton and Brentford do us a numbers, that's another new level of low.

Damage limitation, be more pragmatic or trust your philosophy, I hope ETH trust his players and stick to his style of play.

I'm in the rock bottom now. Still, will watch the game. And like my beloved MJ said “If you expect disappointment, then you can never really be disappointed.”
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well... when the players not used to the new tactics of ETH... what can you expect... they dont know wanna play positional play or revert back to the counter attacking mode... hence the same disasters like RR time... our positioning all opened up... team slice through us with counter attacking like butter... the players wanna play open game, high defensive line... but then the capitan and the cdm is not ready for this job... brighton brentford already syncing their game tactics for seasons while we just tried for 2 mths? lol
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you didn't read news bout Perez's reaction bout CR7 coming back to CL?
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38 year old smirk? haha. saw the news but stil wish him to go for teams with better structure. after all rm is still using benzema
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38 year old smirk? haha. saw the news but stil wish him to go for teams with better structure. after all rm is still using benzema
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huh? wow why suddenly everybody turns to cristiano like he is the real problem?? not a captain quality? wow did maguire captained that england squad?
wait a minute, who is the captain for portugal? really? negative attitude? a full clip showing he wants to go to the fans but after realized the team got booed he make a u-turn ... after got trashed 4 nil and u think not clapping to ur fans is a huge problem and can ruin the team performance? really?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

this fans are amazing .. this is what the glazers wanted .. switch the blame to others

during the game if u noticed when we are trailing 2 goals, he shouted to the players to keep going and get a goal with his hand gesture "1 GOAL! GET 1 GOAL!" to change the momentum .. guess what maguire was doing? nothing as like "not my fault"..

this fans really unbelievable. i hope all we fans get our wish comes true, got his contract terminated and go to other club maybe chelsea, and score a hattrick against this club. we dont deserved him. it was a mistake.
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It would be much sweeter if Ronaldo goes to City or Liverpool and scores hattrick against MU... I think Ronaldo was the only player that actually tried to do something in the last match. Yes he sulked, but that was after the game is finished.
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at this rate we will be like nottingham forest late 1990's and relegate to championship.
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I love to see that. Not because I don’t love the club but I want to see the owner out.
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What's the issue though. Arsenal had no qualms freezing Ozil for months despite him being one of the highest paid player
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because we're a business club more than football club

money comes 1st
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QUOTE(BartoCastro @ Aug 15 2022, 10:33 AM)
Ready for another massacre at Old Trafford next week? TBH, get raped by Liverpool or City are common theme these days. But when the likes of Brighton and Brentford do us a numbers, that's another new level of low.

Damage limitation, be more pragmatic or trust your philosophy, I hope ETH trust his players and stick to his style of play.

I'm in the rock bottom now. Still, will watch the game. And like my beloved MJ said “If you expect disappointment, then you can never really be disappointed.”
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man utd gonna win, tominay, maguire and luke shaw score

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huh? wow why suddenly everybody turns to cristiano like he is the real problem?? not a captain quality? wow did maguire captained that england squad?
wait a minute, who is the captain for portugal? really? negative attitude? a full clip showing he wants to go to the fans but after realized the team got booed he make a u-turn ... after got trashed 4 nil and u think not clapping to ur fans is a huge problem and can ruin the team performance? really?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

this fans are amazing .. this is what the glazers wanted .. switch the blame to others

during the game if u noticed when we are trailing 2 goals, he shouted to the players to keep going and get a goal with his hand gesture "1 GOAL! GET 1 GOAL!" to change the momentum .. guess what maguire was doing? nothing as like "not my fault"..

this fans really unbelievable. i hope all we fans get our wish comes true, got his contract terminated and go to other club maybe chelsea, and score a hattrick against this club. we dont deserved him. it was a mistake.
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The headline put CR name but not HM (the captain)
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QUOTE(bonez_xy @ Aug 15 2022, 12:17 PM)
LVG already told that this is commercial club not football club. everything about money first not the football.
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and ten hag now experienced it the 'I thought Manchester United could buy every player' thing himself

another thing about clapping hands to fans .. its OK if you really play hard to win games ..but after got humiliated 4 goals , ONLY SNAKES WITH THICK FACE are able to do that .. and make socmed postings WE GO AGAIN. YES WE GO AGAIN. ITS OK WE GO AGAIN. WE WILL BOUNCED BACK BUT IF WE LOSE, WE GO AGAIN.

eh fukc off lah

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It would be much sweeter if Ronaldo goes to City or Liverpool and scores hattrick against MU... I think Ronaldo was the only player that actually tried to do something in the last match. Yes he sulked, but that was after the game is finished.
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on paper, theres no one. just switch to 433 with 1-on-1 and get the players to play aggresive. of course need to benched ronaldo, or dont list him at all.
start with change of GK, fill up fred+martinez+eriksen in the midfield 3, get garnacho and sancho to play wide with rashford as CF. need his speed and finishing to play a long ball. back four, no maguire please. would start varane and baily with malacia and williams.
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In your dream. Next match you will see mcfred maguire again. This time maybe flank by malacia + awb. Eth doesn't seem dare for wholesale change judging by 2 matches. Prove me wrong pls.

But to be fair to eth, no tactic plan can be executed when your backline free minimum 2 goals away due to individual mistakes. Opponent hardly tried attacking slickly. 0-2 morale low, bruno lead the sulking, maguire start blaming ppl, rashford under pressure with every touch, gg. The never die attitude is gone since ole.
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Something most united fans prob don't know.

Before Ten hag, Marcel Keizer was the coach. He was highly recommend by bergkamp and jonk.

He was 1st coach of the reserve team. In which he worked with all the youngsters from that champions league semi final. He played some amazing football with that reserve squad. Nouri was part of that squad too.

then after that lost uefa cup final against Manchester united. Peter Bosz left and Marcel Keizer got the job.

In that summer there was the nouri drama, nouri who went into coma sad.gif. He was beloved by every player and staff. We got eliminated out of Europe in the qualification's. The nouri drama happened just before the qualifiers.

The rest of the season wasnt that bad. We played some very good football. But we where behind psv like 12 points. I dont think its that bad given the nouri drana impact.

Then all of sudden Keizer was sacked by overmars. One game before the winterbreak. This came as a complete surprise to everyone..he had a shaky start yes. But there was the nouri drama. He did get the sqaud back on track with some beatifull football. We smashed feyenoord and PSV with good football under him.

Keizer didn't deserve to get sacked..this was the general view of most supporters. With Keizer.. bergkamp was sacked too. The whole thing felt more like a attempt from overmars to get him in the position of most powerful. Because there where disagreements between Overmars, bergkamp and jonk.

Then in came ten hag. Overmars best personal friend. He was given directly 2 wingbacks by overmars. Something keizer repeatedly asked for but never got. Ten hag also brought his dearest friend/player from Utrecht with him. Zakaria Labyad. For 7 million. This guy

Ten hag finished 2nd. With some weird and bizarre choices/sqauds/substitutes/

Then that summer ajax raised the salary fee and transfer budget. Kept all their talents and stars. And Tadic and Blind where signed. So we had a super squad.

Ten hag just happened to be lucky to be in the right place and time. Never before Ajax had a sqaud like that. Yea once 20 years ago or so. We had a sqaud with zlatan, van der vaart, van der meide, trabelsi, sneijder, chivu. That sqaud almost got to the cl semi finals. But now we had some experience players with blind and tadic.

I know it sounds weird to say..that cl team who beat juve and real. That's not ' the ten hag playstyle' That's the ajax style, the foundation of that where build by Peter Bosz and keizer. Ten hag just happened to be at the right at the right time. Marcel Keizer would've achieved the same if not better.

there nothing special about ten hag. There are a lot ajax fans who are happy ten hag left. The season after that cl season. 19/20 now we begun to see what the real play style of ten hag is... Frenkie end De ligt left..

Ten hag bought Marin as a replacement for frenkie.. Based on one game of Ajax against standard liege where he saw him play. He was instant floppy.

The new qualifying campain started. Ten hag new master mind plan. Was to put two defensive midfielders in midfield. Alvarez and Martinez. Its not like mcfred. But it isn't also a good thing. We played against a Greek or cypros side I can't remember. We where very lucky not be eliminated by them it was on aggregate 4-3 or 5-4. Oh yea and an other buddy of Ten hag came. Quincy promes. We survived the cl qualification.

In the group stage against Chelsea at home we played with a coward defensive midfield. Alvarez and Martinez on the midfield. Ten hag who got his tactics wrong. We lost 0-1. Later in the away game, finally ten hag was brave enough to put the correct midfield the fans wanted. Martinez, vdb, and ziyech on 10! We where up 4-1..unlucky to get two reds in one foul. Which lead to 4-4. Later the decider game against Valencia at home. Ten hag went back to his old coward horrible tactics again. Playing with Martinez and Alvarez togheter on the midfield. Of course we lost 0-1 deservedly. The whole match was a shitshow because of ten hag tactics we where out of the cl. We went to Europe league to play against getaffe. Again ten hag tactics, line ups etc where horrible. Getaffe knocked us out of Europa.. A bit later on we went on the worst streak, draws, loses in the eredivisie in the history of ajax. We where still top somehow together with as. But we lost match after match. Corona was there and saved ten hag. With full stadiums ten hag would never ever be the manager again from ajax. There's no way the supporters are gonna accept that. But again he was lucky.. The eredivisie ended on 25 games because corona. Ajax where top of the table togheter with az. We had the better goal difference. They az had the better head to head. We where called champions because of goal difference. If that season didn't end we would've blow the eredivisie title because of stupid ten hag tactics



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QUOTE(bonez_xy @ Aug 15 2022, 11:56 AM)
at this rate we will be like nottingham forest late 1990's and relegate to championship.
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If this is true, then memang fight top4 aje. Or worse. Possible we win fa cup, league Cup but get relegated? Like that can get trophy + get rid of glazers.
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If this is true, then memang fight top4 aje. Or worse. Possible we win fa cup, league Cup but get relegated? Like that can get trophy + get rid of glazers.
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If this is true, then the board screwed up again. It will be just like their decision to give perm job to OGS.

It means they just see the manager get good results, then sign. No need interview, no need discuss and see what the manager vision is, and how suitable he is.
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Real elite managers do this, talk truthfully, factually and demands standard to be raised..
Not covering up for the sake of harmony, good vibes and smiles..
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so if ten hag got sacked who is next? poch? based on his handling of psg i doubt he gonna stay long with this bunch of players....even SAF, pep, klopp, ancelotti also can't do shit..
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so if ten hag got sacked who is next? poch? based on his handling of psg i doubt he gonna stay long with this bunch of players....even SAF, pep, klopp, ancelotti also can't do shit..
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I think cant already. Players currently in the club is treating the club as either a stepping stone to a bigger club, or just for the salary.

To me, the clubs needs a decent DM. The manager should be able to make some player play out of their comfort zone, out of their preferred position. But they will have to forgo their desire and preference for the sake of the club. See the whole squad, i dont think any of them are willing. They arent even willing to change their style which might restrict their selling point. They just want to play how they think they play best and hope a bigger club pick up on their strengths and buy them.
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Aug 15 2022, 02:14 PM)
I think cant already. Players currently in the club is treating the club as either a stepping stone to a bigger club, or just for the salary.

To me, the clubs needs a decent DM. The manager should be able to make some player play out of their comfort zone, out of their preferred position. But they will have to forgo their desire and preference for the sake of the club. See the whole squad, i dont think any of them are willing. They arent even willing to change their style which might restrict their selling point. They just want to play how they think they play best and hope a bigger club pick up on their strengths and buy them.
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stepping stone? feels an english retirement home is a better description. non of these players, if walk out of the club, other clubs will be interested.

those rash, awb interest by barcelona and psg just to ruffled ur feathers only la. they cant even make it to these clubs substitute.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 15 2022, 02:18 PM)
stepping stone? feels an english retirement home is a better description. non of these players, if walk out of the club, other clubs will be interested.

those rash, awb interest by barcelona and psg just to ruffled ur feathers only la. they cant even make it to these clubs substitute.
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While we question his attitude, jlingz has plenty offer from mid table clubs.
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I think ETH underestimate the first 2 match. that is why he keep using players shaw at the left back, Fred in the middle and fridge. He might think to use these 2 match to evaluate their performance and at the same time get Martines to get use to EPL. It is a gamble that backfire him kaw kaw... hopefully for the next match with Loserfool, I hope he will change at least 6 to 7 players that played the last game.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 15 2022, 02:22 PM)
While we question his attitude, jlingz has plenty offer from mid table clubs.
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jlings performance not a problem when he subbed in. but rashford is a different body language. not even trying to run. jlings will try to run (maybe cause he has fresher legs compared to the rest)
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stepping stone? feels an english retirement home is a better description. non of these players, if walk out of the club, other clubs will be interested.

those rash, awb interest by barcelona and psg just to ruffled ur feathers only la. they cant even make it to these clubs substitute.
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I mean, yala, retirement home for the money. But some players are still young, dont make sense they wanna just slack and live off their remaining contract.

Imo, u see awb play, a coach should be teaching him positioning, or using his speed to push players away from goal, slow them down so other players can catch up and help defend. But no, he always want to run up and try to participate in attack,but when fail and caught out of position, he wont sprint back. Why? I dunno, but maybe he feels like he wont shine if he just run and distract the attacker while his teammate come and help him. He'd prefer a decisive 1v1 where he can show his tackling skills.

Then u can see rashford. Possession style ten hag football means he have to continually move about, making available pass routes and he must also make short passes to teammates to cycle possession. But just like that, hard to shine, so he wants to show his speed, show his dribbling. He scared later people call him backwards or sideway passing merchant maybe. So, he keep trying to dribble, to showcase his speed and flair.

Barca interest might not be genuine, but they would feel like they rather try to be the main man of the team and get more clubs interested, rather than do the grunt work for the betterment of the team as a whole

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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Aug 15 2022, 02:33 PM)
I mean, yala, retirement home for the money. But some players are still young, dont make sense they wanna just slack and live off their remaining contract.

Imo, u see awb play, a coach should be teaching him positioning, or using his speed to push players away from goal, slow them down so other players can catch up and help defend. But no, he always want to run up and try to participate in attack,but when fail and caught out of position, he wont sprint back. Why? I dunno, but maybe he feels like he wont shine if he just run and distract the attacker while his teammate come and help him. He'd prefer a decisive 1v1 where he can show his tackling skills.

Then u can see rashford. Possession style ten hag football means he have to continually move about, making available pass routes and he must also make short passes to teammates to cycle possession. But just like that, hard to shine, so he wants to show his speed, show his dribbling. He scared later people call him backwards or sideway passing merchant maybe. So, he keep trying to dribble, to showcase his speed and flair.

Barca interest might not be genuine, but they would feel like they rather try to be the main man of the team and get more clubs interested, rather than do the grunt work for the betterment of the team as a whole
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they are getting paid higher than peers of similar age in the league. except mctom. easy money
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Take it with a pinch of salt whatever that Ajax fan says of his ex-manager. Remember we were very hot for him just weeks ago.

The important thing is to stay OBJECTIVE, and never to support blindly and never to criticize blindly.
I am damn sure right now he is has been shown a noob. And it is not fair to judge anyone based on 2 games.
But - Almost ALL PLAYERS bar 2 have had more than 2 games dammit.
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so ETH out bro? lol
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I can't believe we're down 4-0 and we didn't sub in youngster to gain some experience, what is ETH looking at?
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I can't believe we're down 4-0 and we didn't sub in youngster to gain some experience, what is ETH looking at?
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ETH is famous for not subbing easily like ole also... so yea... and maguire rashy can play 90 mins... martinez and sancho gt sub out... sancho i feel despite his lack of goals and assists, he still better than rashy now...
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they are getting paid higher than peers of similar age in the league. except mctom. easy money
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kayu style.... u wan money! u get it!... lol... jones also can get new contract... ada apa tak boleh mia... mctom most sad... cant even fight for high salary, now all fans wan him out already..
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so ETH out bro? lol
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Just one post up I said I will support new manager. This time around, you can bet I will support him till relegate because I see an additional motive in getting rid of Glazers.

By the time we reach Div 1 and he cannot bring us up / make us lead the championship comfortably by game 10, then I will call for his head.

But again, I am GOING TO criticize the selection every damn match, and criticize the players every damn match and if they don't show heart and soul and run their damn legs off you bet I will boo them.

They ARE ALL PAID LIKE CHAMPIONS of EPL. They should show performance of champions. They are supposed to WIN EVERY MATCH because their salary is really beyond or equal to every top team. Not to mention there is no CL to be distracted by.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 02:56 PM)
kayu style.... u wan money! u get it!... lol... jones also can get new contract... ada apa tak boleh mia... mctom most sad... cant even fight for high salary, now all fans wan him out already..
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Something most united fans prob don't know.
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there nothing special about ten hag. There are a lot ajax fans who are happy ten hag left. The season after that cl season. 19/20 now we begun to see what the real play style of ten hag is... Frenkie end De ligt left..

Ten hag bought Marin as a replacement for frenkie.. Based on one game of Ajax against standard liege where he saw him play. He was instant floppy.

The new qualifying campain started. Ten hag new master mind plan. Was to put two defensive midfielders in midfield. Alvarez and Martinez. Its not like mcfred. But it isn't also a good thing. We played against a Greek or cypros side I can't remember. We where very lucky not be eliminated by them it was on aggregate 4-3 or 5-4. Oh yea and an other buddy of Ten hag came. Quincy promes. We survived the cl qualification.
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who wrote this is a great example of an idiot. remember jose? anti-jose fans will said the same. stupid jose tactics parked-the-bus all that shit even won us some trophies with a 4/5 transfer targets yeah right. Erik ten Hag have to rebuild twice. without de jong and de ligt, and post corona. and this idiot said he is nothing? what a joke. a real 'nothing' manager will fail to win u any trophies. if Erik ten Hag was nothing, with that squad, he just can give Ajax 2nd place at best. super squad? blind and tadic and haller were super? LOL WHAT A FUKING JOKE

if ten hag is nothing, just compare him with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. back-to-back top 4, in almost empty stadium, with maguire as captain. guess what? maybe the same idiot will said ole is god thumbup.gif

oh yes, im a bit biased towards Erik ten Hag here. he is 'nothing'... really? what a joke. a nothing manager is like Ole the fraud, 3 seasons with high-wages players and got us to inherits the most shittiest squad ever.

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I can't believe we're down 4-0 and we didn't sub in youngster to gain some experience, what is ETH looking at?
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what? most manager only sub in youngster to gain experience when winning comfortably

kena belasah 99 still wan bring in youngster .. could be worse for their development ...

also may let ppl condemn say give up by subbing in youngster ..no desire to come back for at least draw/win

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Aug 15 2022, 02:56 PM)
Just one post up I said I will support new manager. This time around, you can bet I will support him till relegate because I see an additional motive in getting rid of Glazers.

By the time we reach Div 1 and he cannot bring us up / make us lead the championship comfortably by game 10, then I will call for his head.

But again, I am GOING TO criticize the selection every damn match, and criticize the players every damn match and if they don't show heart and soul and run their damn legs off you bet I will boo them.

They ARE ALL PAID LIKE CHAMPIONS of EPL. They should show performance of champions. They are supposed to WIN EVERY MATCH because their salary is really beyond or equal to every top team. Not to mention there is no CL to be distracted by.
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yea bro... totally get your feeling now... lol... all of them paid like champion but performed like norwich city... damn... ETH thought that players with that kind of salary should be able to perform his tactics.... mana tau.... there is a reason why ole eventually give up using new tactics because they everyday counter attack by default... lol
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they are getting paid higher than peers of similar age in the league. except mctom. easy money
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But they still have to have some ambition because at the rate of their performance, the club aint gonna renew, so they'd hope someone comes in to get them so they can continue their career. Unless they think man utd will keep giving them luxurious contracts for shit performances, which is actually possible.
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expecting rash maguire to get extension handsome for loyalty shown to the club during this difficult times..  rclxms.gif
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yea but now tukar to pakatan harapan murtogh dy... (so no contract extension anymore) rashy punya contract also they didnt start anything yet... maybe wait til mid season only decide...
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Aug 15 2022, 03:04 PM)
But they still have to have some ambition because at the rate of their performance, the club aint gonna renew, so they'd hope someone comes in to get them so they can continue their career. Unless they think man utd will keep giving them luxurious contracts for shit performances, which is actually possible.
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got precedent already. so why not. if this company i working for got this culture, i will stay there till i retire.
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got precedent already. so why not. if this company i working for got this culture, i will stay there till i retire.
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Hahahah, means they also think the club will be this stupid until they retire ah? I dont blame them. To be honest, trophies and accolades are overrated. To me, all this achievements are so you can step up and play for a bigger club to challenge bigger trophies for one ultimate aim, to earn the money a world superstar should earn. But if you can earn this much without going through all that, easy choice.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 03:04 PM)
yea but now tukar to pakatan harapan murtogh dy... (so no contract extension anymore) rashy punya contract also they didnt start anything yet... maybe wait til mid season only decide...
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better sell or become another jlings. receive 0. murtogh also like no performance/eth holding on to other signings because waiting for fdj since we have limited budget this window.
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I can't believe we're down 4-0 and we didn't sub in youngster to gain some experience, what is ETH looking at?
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early of the season better play players tht in the main squad.. they need minutes more and for ETH to choose the best 11. unless he plan to sell some of them

easy say play youngster to gain experience.. if backfired we concede more goals sure ETH get roasted playing them

the squad quite thin now.. whos there to fight rashford, sancho spot. DM is a must still not sign. striker also need more option there esp wt CR uncertainty
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 15 2022, 03:27 PM)
so he prefer savage or zidane... kesian garner.. lol
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 15 2022, 03:07 PM)
better sell or become another jlings. receive 0. murtogh also like no performance/eth holding on to other signings because waiting for fdj since we have limited budget this window.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 03:31 PM)
club say die die wont sell... wait his contract run out ba... lol... tired of this club mia transfer dealing capabilities... i think coming liverpool match will abandoned dy... fans mau mogok kuat2
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see how mogok first... i wil still watch la.. 3 more games.. 2 done.. haha. with maguire in lineup thats why limit
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 15 2022, 03:27 PM)
Come rage orga. I think you always mention his name. Mcfred really highly rated. Not for sale
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see how mogok first... i wil still watch la.. 3 more games.. 2 done.. haha. with maguire in lineup thats why limit
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based on the sub he did last match... highly possible maguire will start again... martinez most probabaly kena bench if eth dont let him play CDM... lol
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 15 2022, 03:39 PM)
Come rage orga. I think you always mention his name. Mcfred really highly rated. Not for sale
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rage for what? laugh.gif

garner want that cdm role so bad, the role that de jong play in Erik ten Hag vision.
ETH want to move garner to an 8 or 10. garner refuse.
OK. go play whatever role u want in another club laugh.gif

too bad he didnt rate garner.

so .. if this true, and de jong didnt came, ETH really dig his own grave ..setting up for his own sack laugh.gif
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[quote=orga_laut,Aug 15 2022, 02:59 PM]
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who wrote this is a great example of an idiot. remember jose? anti-jose fans will said the same. stupid jose tactics parked-the-bus all that shit even won us some trophies with a 4/5 transfer targets yeah right. Erik ten Hag have to rebuild twice. without de jong and de ligt, and post corona. and this idiot said he is nothing? what a joke. a real 'nothing' manager will fail to win u any trophies. if Erik ten Hag was nothing, with that squad, he just can give Ajax 2nd place at best. super squad? blind and tadic and haller were super? LOL WHAT A FUKING JOKE

if ten hag is nothing, just compare him with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. back-to-back top 4, in almost empty stadium, with maguire as captain. guess what? maybe the same idiot will said ole is god thumbup.gif

oh yes, im a bit biased towards Erik ten Hag here. he is 'nothing'... really? what a joke. a nothing manager is like Ole the fraud, 3 seasons with high-wages players and got us to inherits the most shittiest squad ever.
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I don't disagree with you, that fan's POV may not constitute the full picture.
But at the same time, it must be fair that ETH has to be open for criticism. He cannot hide or beat around the bush when comes to his players and his support structure.

Assuming I know nothing of his past, I am not seeing the correct decisions being made by Erik, so far, in player selection and in signing new players. And please, don't give me that its not his job to sign players nonsense. I will refuse to believe it, and it is not a logical condition. We don't put our reputation and job on the line, and depend on a few John's and Dicks to do something that can cause us to get fired. I would not sign this contract of employment. It may be so in the past with Jose, LVG, but there must be lesson's learned. So, I tend to give him a D- minus of the job done so far.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 03:42 PM)
based on the sub he did last match... highly possible maguire will start again... martinez most probabaly kena bench if eth dont let him play CDM... lol
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maybe 20 years later can publish book how he manage to escape sub out despite being poor.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 15 2022, 03:27 PM)
Rumors again.
Yet if it is real, quite disappointed.

If Ten Hag willing to kasi chance to develop, I am not dare to say anything, but shud be safe to say he will be better than McTom and Fred as a control midfielder, as least a little bit.

Yet, as I said, it is now rumors all over the place.

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Garner leaves while nt playing a minute. While fred n mctom already failed in every minute of epl action.

We are looking to sign vardy? Morata? Lmao
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 15 2022, 03:48 PM)
rage for what?  laugh.gif

garner want that cdm role so bad, the role that de jong play in Erik ten Hag vision.
ETH want to move garner to an 8 or 10. garner refuse.
OK. go play whatever role u want in another club  laugh.gif

too bad he didnt rate garner.

so .. if this true, and de jong didnt came, ETH really dig his own grave ..setting up for his own sack  laugh.gif
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Why will garner refuse. He already mention he can play 8 or 10 in interviews. He just want to play..
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 15 2022, 04:00 PM)
Rumors again.
Yet if it is real, quite disappointed.

If Ten Hag willing to kasi chance to develop, I am not dare to say anything, but shud be safe to say he will be better than McTom and Fred as a control midfielder, as least a little bit.

Yet, as I said, it is now rumors all over the place.
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We shall see if there’s any buyer
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now all the panic buy rumours coming everywhere... damn this club man... this is basically moyes era all over again... stupid DOF together with blood sucking bosses... argh....
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 04:40 PM)
now all the panic buy rumours coming everywhere... damn this club man... this is basically moyes era all over again... stupid DOF together with blood sucking bosses... argh....
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cant blame them (seller). put it to so late and macam not learn enough? need pay premium for this lesson and next window repeat. same thing next year with murtough.

basically telling everyone you are desperate for the player and pls chop me. devil.gif
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cant blame them (seller). put it to so late and macam not learn enough? need pay premium for this lesson and next window repeat. same thing next year with murtough.

basically telling everyone you are desperate for the player and pls chop me.  devil.gif
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thats the problem... whats the point ETH start so early and then he work with basically the same squad in the end... doh.gif doh.gif ... i most kenot tahan our midfield remain the same even after last disastrous season... ranting.gif ranting.gif
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Should add a buyback clause if selling Garner..
I do agree he should be given at least one competitive match to showcase his abilities..

I do believe them kids can get on the pitch only when certain conditions are met too..
Otherwise its highly possible it will be too much pressure for them..
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 04:52 PM)
thats the problem... whats the point ETH start so early and then he work with basically the same squad in the end...  doh.gif  doh.gif ... i most kenot tahan our midfield remain the same even after last disastrous season...  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
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When was the last time selling an academy player that proved to be a mistake? Maybe he doesnt have what it is needed, even Angel Gomes was highly rated and he hasnt done much abroad.
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maybe 20 years later can publish book how he manage to escape sub out despite being poor.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 15 2022, 04:58 PM)
When was the last time selling an academy player that proved to be a mistake? Maybe he doesnt have what it is needed, even Angel Gomes was highly rated and he hasnt done much abroad.
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if i have to give a name... evans... his replacement costly and doesnt play
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if i have to give a name... evans... his replacement costly and doesnt play
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pogba, because we bought him back for 80mil and let him go for free again.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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if i have to give a name... evans... his replacement costly and doesnt play
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Never rated him, but he had quite a number of games in the first team so doesnt really count. I mean like academy player that is ready for first XI but let go or sold off, like Angel Gomes, Garner, the guy that got injured that allowed Rashford a chance (cant remember his name LOL), Ravel Morrison etc.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 05:34 PM)
pogba, because we bought him back for 80mil and let him go for free again....  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Pogba didnt want to sign the contract so Ferguson banished him. Overall he cost us loads cuz even as a teenager we "gifted" his parents a house or something to get him to join the academy LOL.
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Pogba didnt want to sign the contract so Ferguson banished him. Overall he cost us loads cuz even as a teenager we "gifted" his parents a house or something to get him to join the academy LOL.
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Wait now we are going for Jamie Vardy... to what, replace Ronnie?

Oh man.... Rabiot, Icardi (yes serious contact was made) and now Vardy. If they do all get in and nothing changed.... just accept league is gone, and pray for success in the cups.....
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 15 2022, 05:38 PM)
Never rated him, but he had quite a number of games in the first team so doesnt really count. I mean like academy player that is ready for first XI but let go or sold off, like Angel Gomes, Garner, the guy that got injured that allowed Rashford a chance (cant remember his name LOL), Ravel Morrison etc.
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well, we can talk about that for greenwood soon. but yeah overall our academy not much talent...
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Have not seen Tier 1/2 source reporting Vardy

Mostly is rubbish links to generate view

More leaks coming out now … what a shitshow

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Have not seen Tier 1/2 source reporting Vardy

Mostly is rubbish links to generate view

More leaks coming out now … what a shitshow
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always dressing room problems... just chg the whole squad la... lol... tak habis2 dressing room problem... i think if can clear all the english players out, should be problem solved dy... should be 2 camps only in the dressing room... maguire camp and ronaldo camp....
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always dressing room problems... just chg the whole squad la... lol... tak habis2 dressing room problem... i think if can clear all the english players out, should be problem solved dy... should be 2 camps only in the dressing room... maguire camp and ronaldo camp....
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realistically speaking .. you need to have homegrown players to play in EPL

u cant get rid all English players

dun 4get bout this
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realistically speaking .. you need to have homegrown players to play in EPL

u cant get rid all English players

dun 4get bout this
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yea i know get rid the english seniors, we put in the english juniors... lol... let the dressing room re-cleanse first... haha
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 15 2022, 06:27 PM)
realistically speaking .. you need to have homegrown players to play in EPL

u cant get rid all English players

dun 4get bout this
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You only need 8 homegrown players, get rid of the rest larh.
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You only need 8 homegrown players, get rid of the rest larh.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 04:52 PM)
thats the problem... whats the point ETH start so early and then he work with basically the same squad in the end...  doh.gif  doh.gif ... i most kenot tahan our midfield remain the same even after last disastrous season...  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
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I was optimistic that midfield despite its mcfred until I watch 1st game. Thought eth can improve them but fail.

Maybe the players really easy fold under pressure. Friendly like godmode, now cant even pass properly
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 15 2022, 06:46 PM)
Have been that way since var new rule
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I have to agree. Kinda toxic upftont
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user posted image

Err ... Is this real?
No way right, it must be photoshopped right?

Ya, surely Photoshoped.
Can see the 6 yard box line has disappeared under the leg of Brentford player.
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2 more weeks before transfer window closes. Expect drama at Old Trafford. Plus bashing from Liverpool next.
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2 more weeks before transfer window closes. Expect drama at Old Trafford. Plus bashing from Liverpool next.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 15 2022, 06:50 PM)
name me 8 homegrown players that man utd have and can play on the field?  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 06:25 PM)
always dressing room problems... just chg the whole squad la... lol... tak habis2 dressing room problem... i think if can clear all the english players out, should be problem solved dy... should be 2 camps only in the dressing room... maguire camp and ronaldo camp....
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Haha. Who is on their right mind want follow maguire as captain? 🤣 aduh. It’s plan to see he is a joke but yet still got people want him to lead them 🤦🏽
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https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/16...mier-League/amp

Man Utd tipped to sack Erik ten Hag by international break and hire Mauricio Pochettino

Can’t wait to see this happen. Confirm relegated with pochettino 🤣
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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 15 2022, 10:53 PM)
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/16...mier-League/amp

Man Utd tipped to sack Erik ten Hag by international break and hire Mauricio Pochettino

Can’t wait to see this happen. Confirm relegated with pochettino 🤣
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Why even waste your time with the express LOL
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Why even waste your time with the express LOL
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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 15 2022, 10:53 PM)
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/16...mier-League/amp

Man Utd tipped to sack Erik ten Hag by international break and hire Mauricio Pochettino

Can’t wait to see this happen. Confirm relegated with pochettino 🤣
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If this happen, confirm eth sound murtough and Arnold gao gao for their transfer failure. But yeah, give time to manager doesn't mean you can lose like nobody business.
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I think something seriously wrong with finances.. not only we saved alot wages , but now need to sell garner . Very light in the middle, sell again, to bring in rabiot. Probably wanna cover the 15mil. Weeee
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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 15 2022, 10:51 PM)
Haha. Who is on their right mind want follow maguire as captain? 🤣 aduh. It’s plan to see he is a joke but yet still got people want him to lead them 🤦🏽
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actually there is no other captain material in the team ...

switch to someone else oso the same .. no?
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I think something seriously wrong with finances.. not only we saved alot wages , but now need to sell garner . Very light in the middle, sell again, to bring in rabiot. Probably wanna cover the 15mil.  Weeee
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It's the transfer budget. We only have limited funds to spend, which is why the strange transfer decisions are happening.

Ten Hag gets a set amount for transfer budget but will also keep any generated from sales. The problem is that apart from Perreira, the club has struggled to sell anyone. That is why targets like Antony weren't pursued more seriously. Ten Hag knows that for the price of getting Antony, United will not have enough budget for FDJ. Manager has to make sacrifice calls in this case.

So with the latest news of selling Garner and Bailly in the works, it is hoped that the funds generated will allow the club to go for the targets rather than making budget decisions. The core problem here is twofold. There just isn't enough transfer budget allocated for a major rebuild of the squad. Other clubs like Chelsea are already blowing United's net spend out of the water. Secondly, United's poor transfer negotiation team means that we always overpay for transfer, further stressing the limited transfer budget. An example of a strong transfer negotiation team here is Spurs, look at how many value transfers they were able to achieve this summer. Spurs were able to get a lot of value out of their transfer budget.

This is now typical bad club management from United. Leaving it late, panicking after a bad result and then planning to spend all that money on targets that they would not have earlier in the window.



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0 point vs 2 points
Not bad after all LOL
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Darwin Nunez dont wanna go against Maguire lol
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 16 2022, 12:44 AM)
actually there is no other captain material in the team ...

switch to someone else oso the same .. no?
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I can only think of de gea and ronaldo. Other than that 😭

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0 point vs 2 points
Not bad after all LOL
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 16 2022, 07:25 AM)
Darwin Nunez dont wanna go against Maguire lol
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 16 2022, 12:44 AM)
actually there is no other captain material in the team ...

switch to someone else oso the same .. no?
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I think the point is since this captain is not doing anything. It will make any subsequent captain easier. Since predecessor not doing anything. Maguire as captain makes it hard to drop him
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I think the point is since this captain is not doing anything. It will make any subsequent captain easier. Since predecessor not doing anything. Maguire as captain makes it hard to drop him
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yeah but who?

Do you wanna make lets say DDG or Cr7 the new captain where they unlikely to remain in the team next season or even this .. and repeat the selection again?
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yeah but who?

Do you wanna make lets say DDG or Cr7 the new captain where they unlikely to remain in the team next season or even this .. and repeat the selection again?
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no signing..... yet..... no selling..... yet.... f the stupid club structure now lol... how to rebuild when you only spent less than 100mil a season... even pep and klopp also need chg almost 80% of their squad to start challenging for something... we baru 3 new players, apa boleh buat lol... and hari2 FDJ... now baka can register players dy... the FDJ deal we can forget it....
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 16 2022, 09:28 AM)
no signing..... yet..... no selling..... yet.... f the stupid club structure now lol... how to rebuild when you only spent less than 100mil a season... even pep and klopp also need chg almost 80% of their squad to start challenging for something... we baru 3 new players, apa boleh buat lol... and hari2 FDJ... now baka can register players dy... the FDJ deal we can forget it....
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last night read news fdj rejected offer due to wages. macam now we are reoffering higher wage. lets see. and offering 50m for atletico striker. biggrin.gif
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last night read news fdj rejected offer due to wages. macam now we are reoffering higher wage. lets see. and offering 50m for atletico striker. biggrin.gif
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yea saw those... make me lagi angry is wolves signing the sporting cdm soon... lol... now wolves midfield 3 times stronger than ours... doh.gif doh.gif and we chase for fdj like beggar on the street... i cant imagine my future midfield is fdj + rabiot... seems like very soft midfield combo... sad.gif sad.gif and the striker..... lol if din link with us i also never bother his existence tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 16 2022, 09:47 AM)
yea saw those... make me lagi angry is wolves signing the sporting cdm soon... lol... now wolves midfield 3 times stronger than ours...  doh.gif  doh.gif  and we chase for fdj like beggar on the street... i cant imagine my future midfield is fdj + rabiot... seems like very soft midfield combo...  sad.gif  sad.gif  and the striker..... lol if din link with us i also never bother his existence  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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lose midfield lose the game dy. and still we trust mcfred to come good... and also captain maguire
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lose midfield lose the game dy. and still we trust mcfred to come good... and also captain maguire
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It's the transfer budget. We only have limited funds to spend, which is why the strange transfer decisions are happening.

Ten Hag gets a set amount for transfer budget but will also keep any generated from sales. The problem is that apart from Perreira, the club has struggled to sell anyone. That is why targets like Antony weren't pursued more seriously. Ten Hag knows that for the price of getting Antony, United will not have enough budget for FDJ. Manager has to make sacrifice calls in this case.

So with the latest news of selling Garner and Bailly in the works, it is hoped that the funds generated will allow the club to go for the targets rather than making budget decisions. The core problem here is twofold. There just isn't enough transfer budget allocated for a major rebuild of the squad. Other clubs like Chelsea are already blowing United's net spend out of the water. Secondly, United's poor transfer negotiation team means that we always overpay for transfer, further stressing the limited transfer budget. An example of a strong transfer negotiation team here is Spurs, look at how many value transfers they were able to achieve this summer. Spurs were able to get a lot of value out of their transfer budget.

This is now typical bad club management from United. Leaving it late, panicking after a bad result and then planning to spend all that money on targets that they would not have earlier in the window.
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this. very2 poor transfer negotiation and overpay. with glazers just suking money, we need to sell anyone.
ed woodward to richard arnold. what changes? nothing because both are the glazers man.
from no director of football to john murtuogh. what changes? nothing because murtugh was there since moyes time, the same shit.
we did however managed to convinced ralf rangnick to come, the best of sporting director and with his plans, we can rebuild. but they sack him.

i think Erik ten Hag underestimate this problem. he just digging his own grave.
the obsession with de jong, maguire captain, and blocking ronaldo move will just get it worse.

imho, while waiting for miracle, ETH hv no choice to swtich to the players strength, which is ... OLE BALL all over again ..

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even to sign rabiot also very slow...fucking hell this management & bod....somehow i think they want to made eth as scapegoat..
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QUOTE(tontolou @ Aug 16 2022, 10:38 AM)
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Aug 16 2022, 11:06 AM)
even to sign rabiot also very slow...fucking hell this management & bod....somehow i think they want to made eth as scapegoat..
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Need to settle his mom… haha murtough alone cannot satisfy the old lady, maybe need tag Arnold along for 3P 😏
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Need to settle his mom… haha murtough alone cannot satisfy the old lady, maybe need tag Arnold along for 3P 😏
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rather gardner stay and those prima donna w agents can fakoff...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 16 2022, 02:17 PM)
yea, arsenal also used alot youngsters and they overtook our billionaire squad last season from a bad start... now we baru start rebuilding... again..... rebuild til me also wan vomit dy... lol
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letting go 6 to 8 and buying in 3 is not rebuilding yo... maybe american english definition different a bit,
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letting go 6 to 8 and buying in 3 is not rebuilding yo... maybe american english definition different a bit,
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 16 2022, 02:17 PM)
yea, arsenal also used alot youngsters and they overtook our billionaire squad last season from a bad start... now we baru start rebuilding... again..... rebuild til me also wan vomit dy... lol
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Was scrolling fb saw Lampard playing for City. I thought fake video. Didn't know he played for City in 2014. Too busy on moyes/lvg
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 16 2022, 02:24 PM)
ini call cut loss dah  biggrin.gif
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call cosmetic surgery. when the heart got problem and decided to make double eyelid surgery.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 16 2022, 04:32 PM)
Was scrolling fb saw Lampard playing for City. I thought fake video. Didn't know he played for City in 2014. Too busy on moyes/lvg
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It was ridiculous. But he was english, bayar premium lo
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Wolves got nunes.. so neves can sell?
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United as one of the richest football clubs in the world, we hardly receive any funding from the owner.

During matchday, We also struggled against teams like Brighton and Brentford.

One question: In order for United to progress, do we need new owner(s)?

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Aug 16 2022, 07:15 PM)
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United as one of the richest football clubs in the world, we hardly receive any funding from the owner.

During matchday, We also struggled against teams like Brighton and Brentford.

One question: In order for United to progress, do we need new owner(s)?
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Its 0 funding. Not hardly. And need pay them dividend. An example of unfair world lol
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Next week empty stadium campaign? Hope really empty. Our team thrives without fans environment
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Next week empty stadium campaign? Hope really empty. Our team thrives without fans environment
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article in malay......its obvious glazer is the real virus...shit owner & bod.🤣
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https://axello.net/semuel-luckhurst-joel-gl...i-jual-ronaldo/

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Aug 16 2022, 07:15 PM)
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United as one of the richest football clubs in the world, we hardly receive any funding from the owner.

During matchday, We also struggled against teams like Brighton and Brentford.

One question: In order for United to progress, do we need new owner(s)?
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tbh we dun need owner to inject fund

just dun leech from the club

but glazer wont sell
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Was scrolling fb saw Lampard playing for City. I thought fake video. Didn't know he played for City in 2014. Too busy on moyes/lvg
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😲 £1.1bn taken out of the club in the last 17 years
😨 Annual wages rising to £387m
😬 A lack of investment in Old Trafford
😟 £154m taken out of the club by the Glazers in the last decade - more than any other Prem club

The problems on and off the pitch at Man Utd continue to grow...

Need I say more?

Source: The Sun Football
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Your legend Peter scheimicel played for MC as well.  Remember?
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Aug 16 2022, 10:27 PM)

😲 £1.1bn taken out of the club in the last 17 years
😨 Annual wages rising to £387m
😬 A lack of investment in Old Trafford
😟 £154m taken out of the club by the Glazers in the last decade - more than any other Prem club

The problems on and off the pitch at Man Utd continue to grow...

Need I say more?

Source: The Sun Football
https://www.facebook.com/TheSunFootball/pho...79549392065460/
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What does that mean? Owners not giving manager money to spend? Or players are being overpaid?

The club has been splashing out the cash every season
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/...erpool-chelsea/

Main problem isn't the owners, it's the players. Great players go to man utd and become mediocre players but still get a fat pay check each week

If they don't play well, manager get sacked. players will still be around until they are sold.


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Good, either find alternative within less than 2 weeks.
Or easier, call off Garner selling.
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Chelsea completed another 2 deals without dragging

Shame on this club really, fed up, period
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Quite funny if true...

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Lol Elon Musk says he's buying Manchester United
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Good, either find alternative within less than 2 weeks.
Or easier, call off Garner selling.
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Ini transfer team memang lousy nego. Should cast net, straight say buy 3 midfielders, whether they are target or not. Then won't kena hold ransom.

Now buy 1 by 1, ppl know you are desperate for that 1
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tiring.... another day another no new CDM... this club of a mess... rather we are the one kena sanction and use the chance to tukar owner... but damn... our owners are american... f the american owners man... got which club with american owners doing super well one??

now so last min go raid ppl punya first team player... bodo la semua buying dept... if im rabiot mum sure die die wan high salary lol seeing u so despo... same applies to all future targets... brighton sold bissouma, they wont release caceido at same window one la... bodo ke diorang
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Aug 17 2022, 09:16 AM)
lol elon...just dont take seriously what he tweet...he quite a troll btw..🤣🤣
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this guy too free nth to do... buying things everywhere... lol... F the american owners le... i wan oil money~~
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Remember twitter?

Dun hold your breath over what troll says

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he need to sell his useless players..trim the senior squads smaller since no Championship League and promoted some junior players...
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elon musk trolling je. but one thing for sure. if he is the owner, maguire surely first to go out. waste resource and non performing.
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Remember twitter?

Dun hold your breath over what troll says
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Twitter, he sees the fake amounts and pulls the deal.
MU, he sees the fake players we currently have and pulls the deal.

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lol elon maybe buy MU stock at deep & tweet this to shoot up the price to sell it later laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Manchester United are considering a £50m move for Real Madrid midfielder Casemiro as their deal to sign Adrien Rabiot is on the brink of collapse.
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Ajax forward Antony is 'no longer an option for Manchester United' this summer, according to Dutch media outlet De Telegraaf.
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Manchester United have reportedly withdrawn their bid for Frenkie de Jong, with the club turning their attention to other targets.
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Manchester United are prepared to launch an official bid for Chelsea midfielder Hakim Ziyech, according to reports.


should have gone early go ziyech and casemiro..
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should have gone early go ziyech and casemiro..
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 17 2022, 12:14 PM)
haiz... stubborn lol... now we have no one to buy dy... everyone midfield already settled down except ours...  doh.gif  doh.gif
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yeah... should have gone early for a 2nd dm... while pursuing fdj... no backup plan at all.. casemiro won everything and should be able to pursue him similar to varane..

ziyech was a key play in that ajax team under eth before moving to cfc. also he is playing on the right and currently a surplus to cfc. a position that we want to buy. not sure why didnt look at him.
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The Mail report Cunha is keen on a move to Manchester United, after just one season in the Spanish capital.


will rangnick be appointed back as the actual dof instead? this windows shows the club has no proper structure and plans.

also eth naive to disregard ralf after he has been here taking shits from the team for few months
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should have gone early go ziyech and casemiro..
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Now go casemiro lol. Ppl fresh cl winner come and btm club for what.

Might as well bid casemiro modric kross. They play n years together and win everything together. We play mcfred n years also but still disjointed passing

Think deeper abit, without kayu, we might even have problem pulling sponsorship now

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this guy is toxic on the internet. Used to like him. But his attention seeking just gone overboard.
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Caemiro is already 30 … wan buy pls buy younger one since we are rebuilding …

He wont be cheap and in case he failed in EPL we will be unable to sell



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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 17 2022, 12:17 PM)
yeah... should have gone early for a 2nd dm... while pursuing fdj... no backup plan at all.. casemiro won everything and should be able to pursue him similar to varane..

ziyech was a key play in that ajax team under eth before moving to cfc. also he is playing on the right and currently a surplus to cfc. a position that we want to buy. not sure why didnt look at him.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 17 2022, 01:58 PM)
Caemiro is already 30 … wan buy pls buy younger one since we are rebuilding …

He wont be cheap and in case he failed in EPL we will be unable to sell


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casemiro is experienced DM. i would say the club should always go for both DMs. we need two DMs. even if we get primary target, we still need a backup because Fred/Mctom is not a decent backup at all. younger DM's available already snatched by others.


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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 17 2022, 01:58 PM)
Caemiro is already 30 … wan buy pls buy younger one since we are rebuilding …

He wont be cheap and in case he failed in EPL we will be unable to sell


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now is whatever floats the boat... its not just about money only, with the way our team currently running, no one wanna really join us also... unless u pay them excessively only will come which comes to the point of overpaying again... same issue every season and never change...
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 17 2022, 02:08 PM)
casemiro is experienced DM. i would say the club should always go for both DMs. we need two DMs. even if we get primary target, we still need a backup because Fred/Mctom is not a decent backup at all. younger DM's available already snatched by others.
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if rabiot really comes, then we still gt back up... but also its good that he cant come... but then our options getting lesser... pundek doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 17 2022, 02:13 PM)
if rabiot really comes, then we still gt back up... but also its good that he cant come... but then our options getting lesser... pundek  doh.gif  doh.gif
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rabiot off good. gardner can stay. so far eth decisions seems to backfire on him. that termination of rangnick before having a proper discussion together on findings gonna sting if 2 weeks time...
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rabiot off good. gardner can stay. so far eth decisions seems to backfire on him. that termination of rangnick before having a proper discussion together on findings gonna sting if 2 weeks time...
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already stinging hard... lol... now baru he realize that john and dick co are all rubbish lei geh... non football ppl ask them to go and buy players for you reli a joke... doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 17 2022, 02:10 PM)
now is whatever floats the boat... its not just about money only, with the way our team currently running, no one wanna really join us also... unless u pay them excessively only will come which comes to the point of overpaying again... same issue every season and never change...
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which is why i feel if u wanna really be serious bout rebuild

just start from zero again

no point do half hearted attempt and repeat the same issue overpay for fee / wages ...

i believe most fans willing to miss out CL for few seasons just to do a deep cleaning like Arsenal
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Casemiro is top class.. at 30 he's better than 2 young McT..
Get him and Caicedo, make the kid be his understudy..
Offer Garner to Villa, let him learn from his idol.. put a buyback clause on him..

But not gonna happen la.. plus wanna sign Felix also.. no way.. thats totally against Glazernomics..
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 17 2022, 02:23 PM)
which is why i feel if u wanna really be serious bout rebuild

just start from zero again

no point do half hearted attempt and repeat the same issue overpay for fee / wages ...

i believe most fans willing to miss out CL for few seasons just to do a deep cleaning like Arsenal
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If serious rebuild.. Maguire, Shaw, Rashford, McT, Fred and Bruno need to be removed and replaced..
There's a culture of "its okay to lose, we go again" in the club that these players embodies..

Maybe DDG should go along with them as well, his ambition to win trophies is questionable since he happily stays even though no chance of winning anything..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 17 2022, 02:39 PM)
If serious rebuild.. Maguire, Shaw, Rashford, McT, Fred and Bruno need to be removed and replaced..
There's a culture of "its okay to lose, we go again" in the club that these players embodies..

Maybe DDG should go along with them as well, his ambition to win trophies is questionable since he happily stays even though no chance of winning anything..
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DDG wanted to leave but was foiled by a fax machine

Since then nobody tried to buy him and club also offered lucrative contract when it’s not necessary
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ETH/past man utd managers: we need top quality DM

Woodward/Murtough/Glazer: buys another AM instead


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QUOTE(and85rew @ Aug 17 2022, 02:56 PM)
ETH/past man utd managers: we need top quality DM

Woodward/Murtough/Glazer: buys another AM instead
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and the cycle goes on...

manager mentioned: need DM/CB/RW/Striker
but what they got: CB bought/ Old strikers bought/ plenty of AMs/ RW
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tiring.... another day another no new CDM... this club of a mess... rather we are the one kena sanction and use the chance to tukar owner... but damn... our owners are american... f the american owners man... got which club with american owners doing super well one??

now so last min go raid ppl punya first team player... bodo la semua buying dept... if im rabiot mum sure die die wan high salary lol seeing u so despo... same applies to all future targets... brighton sold bissouma, they wont release caceido at same window one la... bodo ke diorang
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I don't understand why we never go for Bissouma. An obvious option. Even if we get FDJ, I don't see why they can't play together.
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Cunha really can do the job? He wasnt consistent scorer his whole career.. come here can score 30 a season or not... Casemiro thing sounds like fantasy football lol
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I don't understand why we never go for Bissouma. An obvious option. Even if we get FDJ, I don't see why they can't play together.
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Christian Pulisic on loan, and Joao Felix?

We are REALLY desperate now, aren't we.
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news hyping up now. felix, casemiro, pullisic... bet we wont get any at all in the end.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 17 2022, 07:27 PM)
Christian Pulisic on loan, and Joao Felix?

We are REALLY desperate now, aren't we.
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Christian Pulisic on loan, and Joao Felix?

We are REALLY desperate now, aren't we.
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News coming out on all sorts of players. Casemiro, Pulisic, etc.
We really are at the scattergun stage right now. At least earlier in the window, there was some philosophy behind the players we wanted. Today, it is full panic stations that we are considering anybody and everybody that is available. The club knows that signing nobody in the next 2 weeks will be seen as a complete failure and the club is keen to making a few signings so that it can be argued the club has invested. And again, like so many seasons before, we are a club that are going to throw money at the players that we did not want at the beginning of the transfer window and hope that it sticks.

On dropping Maguire as Captain, ETH will only be able to drop Maguire if the Board allows it. Not before.

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Most likely FDJ/casemiro is coming hence we gave up on rabiot

Owai I’m high on weeds
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Serious not serious 🤣
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Nobody wants to come. Those intrested tk come only wanted big payment. Why don’t just play the youngster.
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send my captain to reserve pls.
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Utd BOD are still in dream land, thinking can pull players just using Utd brand in this day and age.

At this point, Utd should just buy potential players, not ready made players or superstar players.
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QUOTE(tontolou @ Aug 18 2022, 09:21 AM)
Utd BOD are still in dream land, thinking can pull players just using Utd brand in this day and age.

At this point, Utd should just buy potential players, not ready made players or superstar players.
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Yaya. If kayu, he can pull this off. Now the brand is so bad, nobody will say this is my dream club
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kita tengok macam mana Loserfool bantai kita saja and kick start their season. then media will attack ETH with the worse start record for a MU manager in the history of EPL. Lepas tu semua pundit pundit, key board warriors will say relegation battle utk MU this season.
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QUOTE(matty @ Aug 18 2022, 10:05 AM)
kita tengok macam mana Loserfool bantai kita saja and kick start their season. then media will attack ETH with the worse start record for a MU manager in the history of EPL. Lepas tu semua pundit pundit, key board warriors will say relegation battle utk MU this season.
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If we win, then we can ejek pool though. 3 point vs 2
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 18 2022, 09:54 AM)
Yaya. If kayu, he can pull this off. Now the brand is so bad, nobody will say this is my dream club
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No statement from RM yet on casemiro, means he is coming!


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wtf MU bid 130m for felix???!!! he just ok2 only at atletico...

should focus cdm & cm 1st...🤦🤦


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If we win, then we can ejek pool though. 3 point vs 2
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i cant wait for this wei. just need to win 1-0. then can whack liverpool fans all the way. hahahaha!
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Aug 18 2022, 01:36 PM)
wtf MU bid 130m for felix???!!! he just ok2 only at atletico...

should focus cdm & cm 1st...🤦🤦
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he can be our DM or CM if this rumor true biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Aug 18 2022, 01:36 PM)
No statement from RM yet on casemiro, means he is coming!
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he could be coming. fabrizio reporting.. and likely need to look at unker lotti plans for him this season as they have bought tchouameni and cavaminga for casemiro and modric
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lol, after the past two mths disaster, i dont believe in any rumour jor unless the player take photo with our jersey... balia transfer team... john work so hard but no result one... tokok saje pandai... lol
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lol, after the past two mths disaster, i dont believe in any rumour jor unless the player take photo with our jersey... balia transfer team... john work so hard but no result one... tokok saje pandai... lol
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IIRC, Mikel oso had photo with jersey laugh.gif
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IIRC, Mikel oso had photo with jersey  laugh.gif
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adui... babi la wei... hahaha... what can i trust nowadays...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 18 2022, 02:20 PM)
IIRC, Mikel oso had photo with jersey  laugh.gif
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lejendary mikel.... and robben is on the way in the car too brows.gif
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lejendary mikel.... and robben is on the way in the car too  brows.gif
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wow looking back, i really did support ole during his interim time ..time flies really fast

this is oct 2020
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style of play
1. keep possession, build the game from the back
2. move together in tight shape
3. thru ball to inside foward
4. once they are in final 3rd, anyone from the front 3 can finish it

its tooooOoOOoOo selooooOoOoOoWwwWw because he have a shitty back 4
1. maguire shouldnt allow to keep the ball too long
2. shaw is too slow at the left
3. wan bissaka cannot attack
4. lindelof is good with the ball, but doing to many mistake
aug 2022 , whats change?
- new manager
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- going to implement same tactics. rclxub.gif
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fast forward 2022/23 , new manager, Erik ten Hag, just fresh from winning a couple of trophies with ajax, .. are about to become the 1st manager post fergie to lose 3 games in a row at the opening season and sit at the bottom of the table ... that feels like shit man rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 18 2022, 04:18 PM)
We need to aspire be arsenal already. Can't get big names. Squad rubbish. Just start and buy young players that listen and can implement manager plan
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i think we stuck in this vicious cycle where we

1. buy big name players
2. blackmail by the club. asking for ridiculous price coz knowing MU will pay. (refer to step 3)
3. pay ridiculous price coz desperate.
4. flop.
5. repeat step 1.
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Is there anyway to force Glazers out of Man Utd?
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Is there anyway to force Glazers out of Man Utd?
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At least the fans love the club, love the players, and they are proud of the club history.

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SAF coming out against the Glazers ownership publicly can definitely force them out the quickest..
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 18 2022, 04:49 PM)
wow looking back, i really did support ole during his interim time ..time flies really fast

this is oct 2020
aug 2022 , whats change?
- new manager
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New manager. Its gonna take time. Trust the process. See Arteta how much time given? Now hes flying
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SAF coming out against the Glazers ownership publicly can definitely force them out the quickest..
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Well, wonder why SAF not doing that yet...Sigh..
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 18 2022, 09:37 PM)
New manager. Its gonna take time. Trust the process. See Arteta how much time given? Now hes flying
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Imagine what can he done without backing for transfer?
The squad he inherit previously oso not as bad as our now

I don’t mind giving time for change
But I don’t see any improvement but it getting worst.
Maybe too much tactical for headless chicken in the squad.

Luckily next game is at 3am.
Definitely not worth my sleep time for current squad.
Last time surely stay overnight for the game but not for the current squad/team
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We need to aspire be arsenal already. Can't get big names. Squad rubbish. Just start and buy young players that listen and can implement manager plan
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New manager. Its gonna take time. Trust the process. See Arteta how much time given? Now hes flying
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but Arteta dare to kick out and bench big names wor
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So it seems like Ronaldo SOS msg to board has worked, suddenly transfer activities being hyped up

But Casemiro might be another varane
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So it seems like Ronaldo SOS msg to board has worked, suddenly transfer activities being hyped up

But Casemiro might be another varane
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Well we can make anybody look like shit
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Well we can make anybody look like shit
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No clear leader on the pitch currently, all demotivated easily when they couldn’t score goals, throwing hands of that Bruno is not leadership

Let’s guess who is the captain for Monday match
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No clear leader on the pitch currently, all demotivated easily when they couldn’t score goals, throwing hands of that Bruno is not leadership

Let’s guess who is the captain for Monday match
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Let me guess. Captain Maguire. Despite papers all say eth wanna drop him 🤣
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Nott forest 16 signings. Imagine if we had 16!
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Aug 19 2022, 12:19 AM)
So it seems like Ronaldo SOS msg to board has worked, suddenly transfer activities being hyped up

But Casemiro might be another varane
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Casemiro could be the “beast” we’re looking for. Definitely not a softie.
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New manager. Its gonna take time. Trust the process. See Arteta how much time given? Now hes flying
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Arteta was given time + money.. with time alone he cant do nothing..

Arsenal was the highest spender in the last 3 transfer windows in a row..

They move unwanted players out quick and cheap.. Willian sign and play for one season only.. Ospina out for 3.5m, Koscielny for 5m, Monreal for 250k.. euros not pound..
Not just old players, young players also they move em out.. for example, Iwobi, Willock and Guendouzi.. the first 2 from their academy..

From season 19/20 to now, they shipped out 27 players for cheap..

They dont care about saving money for their owner's dividends..
They dont keep giving their academy players new contract knowing well that the player not good enough..

That is their process, what is United's?
Rashford about to get a new bumper contract..
Maguire still the Captain and cannot be dropped..
Elanga a winger cannot dribble and control ball gets 5 year contract..

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this got Varane feel to it, players that had win everything possible and looking for new challange.
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Signings all dont really matter anymore. I couldnt care less, we could sign De Jong even.

Goal should be to get the snakes Glazers out.

Hoping the protests causes the game on Monday to be cancelled, that will be the next straw... then the whole house falls down
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Aug 19 2022, 12:19 AM)
So it seems like Ronaldo SOS msg to board has worked, suddenly transfer activities being hyped up

But Casemiro might be another varane
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Nothing to do with Ronaldo, its the massive protests planned for Monday... Glazers are running scared.

They have been trending for the last few days non stop

It does feel like the end game... we need to keep up the pressure
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i think we stuck in this vicious cycle where we

1. buy big name players
2. blackmail by the club. asking for ridiculous price coz knowing MU will pay. (refer to step 3)
3. pay ridiculous price coz desperate.
4. flop.
5. repeat step 1.
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big transfer fees, big wages, mediocre performance
fans suffer, manager get sacked, owners get blamed

but multimillionaire footballers party all the way
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Aug 19 2022, 01:14 AM)
Casemiro could be the “beast” we’re looking for. Definitely not a softie.
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Despite having won 5 ucl, he want this project as a challenge. Not because big salary.
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Yes casemiro.... cant believe we are closer to get him
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Next is Anthony? Not likely but pray hard for our right flank, full of Spanish speaking players soon if Anthony comes
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Remember the criticism against Woodward that one of the main causes of our decline was his preference in signing high profile players rather than who the manager wanted?

Deja vu.
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Casemiro update from Fabrizio. 60M + 10M in add-ons. Similar pricing to FDJ.
4 year contract with an option for an additional year.

United to officially submit a bid in the coming hours.

If Real can't go for Ronaldo, United will bring Ron's friends from RM to him in hope he stays.



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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 19 2022, 08:02 AM)
Remember the criticism against Woodward that one of the main causes of our decline was his preference in signing high profile players rather than who the manager wanted?

Deja vu.
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Mmg rinse and repeat pun. But play Brighton pun kena 4. Play Liverpool? Haha. I welcome anyone coming just for us to stay afloat. Relegate better la but takkan wanna see club everyday 4-0 the whole season 🤣
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 19 2022, 08:06 AM)
Casemiro update from Fabrizio. 60M + 10M in add-ons. Similar pricing to FDJ.
4 year contract with an option for an additional year.

United to officially submit a bid in the coming hours.

If Real can't go for Ronaldo, United will bring Ron's friends from RM to him in hope he stays.


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30 years old and we are offering him 4 years contract?
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Aug 19 2022, 08:09 AM)
30 years old and we are offering him 4 years contract?
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Maguire contract left 1 2 years.. can guess how many years we extending him for soon
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30 years old and we are offering him 4 years contract?
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With an additional year as an option and more importantly, a big salary.
United will be top of the league soon.....in terms of squad wages.
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Well, still an upgrade to McFred LOL
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Well, still an upgrade to McFred LOL
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And he is doing that in La Liga, guess figure will double up in EPL lol
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Well, still an upgrade to McFred LOL
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It seems the deal is confirmed, and he's coming over next week?
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 19 2022, 08:15 AM)
With an additional year as an option and more importantly, a big salary.
United will be top of the league soon.....in terms of squad wages.
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read instead of doubling his salary (10m euro gross) at rm, we provide longer years..

one of the realistic target that should have been pursue early of the season before. 60m totally overpriced but at this stage of the window definitely need pay premium.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 19 2022, 09:14 AM)
read instead of doubling his salary (10m euro gross) at rm, we provide longer years..

one of the realistic target that should have been pursue early of the season before. 60m totally overpriced but at this stage of the window definitely need pay premium.
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I am as happy as any United fan is with new players coming in. Though there is still an angle I feel we should step back and consider.

If we look at our transfer targets at the end of last season, do we see a philosophy? I do. All the players are familiar in the concept of positional play, the system which ETH was proficient in when hired. Look at the players we are after now. Do they fit the philosophy? FDJ and Casemiro are two different types of players even though they both play CDM. FDJ is a midfield orchestrator. Casemiro is a midfield destroyer.

While I am hopeful that everyone who comes to our club be a major success, there is a disconnect between the incomings now and the philosophy of football that the manager wanted to implement. Is Casemiro looking like an ETH type of player? One that will thrive in ETH's style of play? Or does Casemiro and the other targets we are chasing now feel like Murtough/Arnold targets to save their jobs?



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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 19 2022, 09:14 AM)
read instead of doubling his salary (10m euro gross) at rm, we provide longer years..

one of the realistic target that should have been pursue early of the season before. 60m totally overpriced but at this stage of the window definitely need pay premium.
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Man Utd new way: Quick & expensive fix
Just like matic signing
There must be reasons RM let them go
Maybe they have better players or feel those players are on downward curve
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Man Utd new way: Quick & expensive fix
Just like matic signing
There must be reasons RM let them go
Maybe they have better players or feel those players are on downward curve
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of course they have .. why casemiro? why not kroos? or modric? casemiro is more like OLE signing.

fuking hell. no money for de jong suddenly can buy casemiro ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif
they really want to switch the blame to someone else ... i can se eth will become a scapegoat
"see we already buy players but still shit"

FUK U GLAZERS!!!
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Aug 19 2022, 09:44 AM)
Man Utd new way: Quick & expensive fix
Just like matic signing
There must be reasons RM let them go
Maybe they have better players or feel those players are on downward curve
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RM is the benchmark for how a football club runs. they find replacement and backup before any actual departure. and they dont cling in with the english player must play and stay bullshit. if the player has no value to them (regardless of contribution), financially they (perez) have not problem releasing them. raul, casillas, ronaldo, varane.

the reason why they let go of Casemiro is because they have already have in place his replacement - Tchouameni - signed early June.

also for economical reasons - 60m for 30 years old, this offer doesnt come every day and players value above 30 wil only go down. 60m will cover Tchouameni 60% fee already.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 19 2022, 09:42 AM)
I am as happy as any United fan is with new players coming in. Though there is still an angle I feel we should step back and consider.

If we look at our transfer targets at the end of last season, do we see a philosophy? I do. All the players are familiar in the concept of positional play, the system which ETH was proficient in when hired. Look at the players we are after now. Do they fit the philosophy? FDJ and Casemiro are two different types of players even though they both play CDM. FDJ is a midfield orchestrator. Casemiro is a midfield destroyer.

While I am hopeful that everyone who comes to our club be a major success, there is a disconnect between the incomings now and the philosophy of football that the manager wanted to implement. Is Casemiro looking like an ETH type of player? One that will thrive in ETH's style of play? Or does Casemiro and the other targets we are chasing now feel like Murtough/Arnold targets to save their jobs?
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combo of both incompetent board/transfer teams and also ETH asks for the sacking of rangnick + hanging on FDJ when we could pursue others.
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 19 2022, 09:48 AM)
of course they have .. why casemiro? why not kroos? or modric? casemiro is more like OLE signing.

fuking hell. no money for de jong suddenly can buy casemiro   ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif 
they really want to switch the blame to someone else ... i can se eth will become a scapegoat
"see we already buy players but still shit"

FUK U GLAZERS!!!
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 19 2022, 09:50 AM)
RM is the benchmark for how a football club runs. they find replacement and backup before any actual departure. and they dont cling in with the english player must play and stay bullshit. if the player has no value to them (regardless of contribution), financially they (perez) have not problem releasing them. raul, casillas, ronaldo, varane.

the reason why they let go of Casemiro is because they have already have in place his replacement - Tchouameni - signed early June.

also for economical reasons - 60m for 30 years old, this offer doesnt come every day and players value above 30 wil only go down. 60m will cover Tchouameni 60% fee already.
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It is amusing they are willing to spend 60+10m on casemiro while bitching on FDJ deal who is 5 years younger. Understand United needs DM but this is exactly matic 2.0 situation

It makes Tchouameni 80m signing become only 10-20m signing if United proceed with Casemiro. Even Kante performance drops once he reached 30 or 31 years.

Man Utd BOD & transfer team = trash

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its like the glazers just push the panic button to buy whatever players and then getting ready to sack ETH by christmas if the result didnt came just to save his ass
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Casemiro would be great. Wish he is younger lol.
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Aug 19 2022, 10:08 AM)
It is amusing they are willing to spend 60+10m on casemiro while bitching on FDJ deal who is 5 years younger. Understand United needs DM but this is exactly matic 2.0 situation

It makes Tchouameni 80m signing become only 10-20m signing if United proceed with Casemiro. Even Kante performance drops once he reached 30 or 31 years.

Man Utd BOD & transfer team = trash
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if there is even a proper transfer team to begin with. laugh.gif

we have seen this before but hopefully this is a good buy.

any dm purchase is definitely an upgrade to mcfred.

casemiro - eriksen - lisandro pls.
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I think Casemiro buy is ok.
Expensive panic buy, but not an injury prone, at least can tahan 2 season.

Tolong, please rmb we are a totally sinking ship now.
It is actually surprised someone like Casemiro quality is still willing to come, yet with price la.

Pls rmb we are still under Glazers.
Do u think we can run like a football club?
Now what we do is to avoid relegation nia.

Until Glazers finally willing to sell, then only there is hope to run like football club.

I think some of u guys really still putting the highest demand on this club.
Don't tell me this shud be the standard those things.

The whole club is totally chaos now, and u guys expect normal standard.
Be realistic la guys ...


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RM are smooth operators.
Even with ready replacements in Camavinga and Tchouameni making the club more likely to sell, they still extracted 70M from United for a 30 year old player.


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Of cuz Casemiro alone is not sufficient, as there is still at least 5 deadwood in the lineup.
Ten Hag also need to do his job.

Rumors said Ten Hag wanna drop Maguire.
Tolong, drop after pool match.
He need to see himself how clown this English is.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 19 2022, 10:39 AM)
RM are smooth operators.
Even with ready replacements in Camavinga and Tchouameni making the club more likely to sell, they still extracted 70M from United for a 30 year old player.
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have to give that to perez. but 60m for a 30 year old 5 time CL winner. and just won CL as first 11. given the current late window, cant expect not to pay premium. price to pay for hanging to just fdj and not seeking alternatives early.

but then again 60m is nothing because nothing beats us paying 80m for a 26 year old fridge - 4 times relegation expert. so good that he got relegated twice in a season.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 19 2022, 10:47 AM)
Of cuz Casemiro alone is not sufficient, as there is still at least 5 deadwood in the lineup.
Ten Hag also need to do his job.

Rumors said Ten Hag wanna drop Maguire.
Tolong, drop after pool match.
He need to see himself how clown this English is.
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rangnick says we need 10... so far we have 3 signings. but most importantly fridge is still starting.

hopefully not going to see him at the lfc games onwards. 3am game. taxing to the mind and body.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 19 2022, 10:37 AM)
I think Casemiro buy is ok.
Expensive panic buy, but not an injury prone, at least can tahan 2 season.

Tolong, please rmb we are a totally sinking ship now.
It is actually surprised someone like Casemiro quality is still willing to come, yet with price la.

Pls rmb we are still under Glazers.
Do u think we can run like a football club?
Now what we do is to avoid relegation nia.

Until Glazers finally willing to sell, then only there is hope to run like football club.

I think some of u guys really still putting the highest demand on this club.
Don't tell me this shud be the standard those things.

The whole club is totally chaos now, and u guys expect normal standard.
Be realistic la guys ...
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Not sure about this

Main rivals have set their high standards and plans to go with it

United have recycled that repeated short term solution for various managers at high costs

Man Utd have spent billions with nothing much to show compared to city/liverpool

Stadium/Facilities/Services no longer top class
Failed management team

When SAF came, he said to knock liverpool off their perch
Not to aim top 4 even though United was not top 4 team back then

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 19 2022, 10:37 AM)
I think Casemiro buy is ok.
Expensive panic buy, but not an injury prone, at least can tahan 2 season.

Tolong, please rmb we are a totally sinking ship now.
It is actually surprised someone like Casemiro quality is still willing to come, yet with price la.

Pls rmb we are still under Glazers.
Do u think we can run like a football club?
Now what we do is to avoid relegation nia.

Until Glazers finally willing to sell, then only there is hope to run like football club.

I think some of u guys really still putting the highest demand on this club.
Don't tell me this shud be the standard those things.

The whole club is totally chaos now, and u guys expect normal standard.
Be realistic la guys ...
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with new manager and a DOF, we still repeating the same mistake .. buy overpriced players that not fit to the manager profile
want timber, got martinez
want darwin nunez, got shit
want antony, got shit
want de jong, got casemiro
want dumfries, got shit
want malacia, this is the only player we got
eriksen was a free transfer

this is not a rebuild, but to save the glazers ass ...

yes casemiro is much2 better than mcfred, but prove me wong that casemiro wont flop with this shit team
remember he play along side kroos+modric who carry the ball forward .. eriksen not a 6, not a 8 ..who going to carry the ball from the deep? casemiro??

anyway, any new midfield is an improvement ..but surely doesnt fit eth style of play .. lets enjoy another season of ole ball

#GlazersOut
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 19 2022, 10:58 AM)
cr7 giving an interiew soon. curious to know what spicy content it is about.
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"Soon" as in now?
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 19 2022, 11:05 AM)
with new manager and a DOF, we still repeating the same mistake .. buy overpriced players that not fit to the manager profile
want timber, got martinez
want darwin nunez, got shit
want antony, got shit
want de jong, got casemiro
want dumfries, got shit
want malacia, this is the only player we got
eriksen was a free transfer

this is not a rebuild, but to save the glazers ass ...

yes casemiro is much2 better than mcfred, but prove me wong that casemiro wont flop with this shit team
remember he play along side kroos+modric who carry the ball forward .. eriksen not a 6, not a 8 ..who going to carry the ball from the deep? casemiro??

anyway, any new midfield is an improvement ..but surely doesnt fit eth style of play .. lets enjoy another season of ole ball

#GlazersOut
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lisandro playing that fdj role last season. so i guess can use that first since fdj is not coming anytime soon.

hopefully there is some truth to this radcliffe purchase. not oil money but no1 in britain since dyson is not here. glazers looking for 100% sales. twittersphere news la haha
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Drop the English/Scot prancing pansies for good
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 19 2022, 11:08 AM)
"Soon" as in now?
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2 weeks from few days ago... from his ig comments...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tra...an-utd-27759008
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read instead of doubling his salary (10m euro gross) at rm, we provide longer years..

one of the realistic target that should have been pursue early of the season before. 60m totally overpriced but at this stage of the window definitely need pay premium.
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Casemiro is the best DMF in the world. 60m is a bargain
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Casemiro for sure better than mcfred or rabbiot. Now we have varane casemiro ronaldo. Def pass to mid pass to fwd, goal!
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 19 2022, 11:51 AM)
Casemiro for sure better than mcfred or rabbiot. Now we have varane casemiro ronaldo. Def pass to mid pass to fwd, goal!
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QUOTE(axelrade1 @ Aug 19 2022, 11:45 AM)
Casemiro is the best DMF in the world. 60m is a bargain
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Aug 19 2022, 10:53 AM)
Not sure about this

Main rivals have set their high standards and plans to go with it

United have recycled that repeated short term solution for various managers at high costs

Man Utd have spent billions with nothing much to show compared to city/liverpool

Stadium/Facilities/Services no longer top class
Failed management team

When SAF came, he said to knock liverpool off their perch
Not to aim top 4 even though United was not top 4 team back then
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That is what I mean, expecting standard football thing from this totally failed management is just gonna stressing and torturing ourselves.

Yes and yes, we will still having all issues u mentioning until Glazers out.
Don't even dream about improvement then.
Even finally Glazers out, it will take years, and there is no guarantee.

The only current expectation shud be avoid relegation.
People thought we are like AC Milan or pool.
But we are know that, the situation is more than that.
There is like no precedent at all.
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QUOTE(axelrade1 @ Aug 19 2022, 11:45 AM)
Casemiro is the best DMF in the world. 60m is a bargain
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He has only a year left on his deal, didnt start the first game of the season, they already signed his replacement, so its defo not a bargain but that doesnt mean he cant be a good player for us.
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seem like casemiro is confirmed? waiting "here we go" from fabrizio romano..

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Casemiro is top class.. if its Liv that signing him, everyone will say its a good signing..
30 years of age is a problem? Only for United fans of course..

Thiago Alcantara is older than Casemiro by one year.. he's doing good..
Fernandinho moved out of City at age 36.. Rodri truly can replace him when he was 34..

But United fans can sit happily with Ryan Giggs the women beater play in the midfield until age 39..

Too high of a transfer fee? who cares, as long as spend it on quality players..
Antony for 100m, why not? Darwin Nunez with horrible 1st touch and ball control cost the same..


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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 19 2022, 12:28 PM)
Casemiro is top class.. if its Liv that signing him, everyone will say its a good signing..
30 years of age is a problem? Only for United fans of course..

Thiago Alcantara is older than Casemiro by one year.. he's doing good..
Fernandinho moved out of City at age 36.. Rodri truly can replace him when he was 34..

But United fans can sit happily with Ryan Giggs the women beater play in the midfield until age 39..

Too high of a transfer fee? who cares, as long as spend it on quality players..
Antony for 100m, why not? Darwin Nunez with horrible 1st touch and ball control cost the same..
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30 still young and can play maybe 3-5 years, some of us really delusional
they thinks hot prospect or wonderkid like to join man utd in this current situation
beggars can't be choosers and casemiro I think can help our defender much better instead of modrid or kroos
we already have bruno, eriksen for the creative department although bruno kinda shit

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misleading example on Giggs ... he is not the starting lineup at old age .. only comes in for easy games or as sub to control the game at late game ....

funny reference to Thiago .. he's good but he's also kinda injury prone .. Liverpool doesn't miss him much when he is not available (but still suffer regardless in quality) is because they have other competent midfielders to compensate ... the same cant be said for us ..

but if Casemiro comes, I will hope for him to be fit and play well ..

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still need to scold the club because we had options... lol... now we need another back up cdm and we can f mcfred combo for good... fred maybe can play better with casemiro at his back who knows... since they are good in brazilian squad together...
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Casemiro definitely one of the best DM in the world. With the current situation in the club(no UCL and etc.) We can't bargain much. Jangan2 last minute fail again ...hahaha
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 19 2022, 12:56 PM)
misleading example on Giggs ... he is not the starting lineup at old age .. only comes in for easy games or as sub to control the game at late game ....

funny reference to Thiago .. he's good but he's also kinda injury prone .. Liverpool doesn't miss him much when he is not available (but still suffer regardless in quality) is because they have other competent midfielders to compensate ... the same cant be said for us ..

but if Casemiro comes, I will hope for him to be fit and play well ..
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Ok dude, how about Heung-min Son and KDB? Maybe Harry Kane as well? Good enough example?

Didnt say Casemiro is enough.. 2 more midfielders should be signed, a winger and a right back..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 19 2022, 01:09 PM)
Ok dude, how about Heung-min Son and KDB? Maybe Harry Kane as well? Good enough example?

Didnt say Casemiro is enough.. 2 more midfielders should be signed, a winger and a right back..
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Harry Kane is kinda injury prune nowadays while i wonder why no ppl go for Son all these time

KdB is the best playmaker in EPL
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 19 2022, 01:20 PM)
Harry Kane is kinda injury prune nowadays while i wonder why no ppl go for Son all these time

KdB is the best playmaker in EPL
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So Son or KDB for 60m is a good deal? But Casemiro is big no no?

KDB is 31, Son 30.. same age group..

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 19 2022, 01:29 PM)
So Son or KDB for 60m is a good deal? But Casemiro is big no no?

KDB is 31, Son 30.. same age group..
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I dun think I make much comment bout Casemiro although we know it’s a panic signing that has different profile than FDJ or ball progressor

I just find it funny u used Giggs and Thiago as example to make a snide remarks at some ppl

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Did I missed anything? Son for 60mil? No way that's gonna happened. Levy is there
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Did I missed anything? Son for 60mil? No way that's gonna happened. Levy is there
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Looks like casemiro is a done deal my favourite startup will be:

4-4-2

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casemiro - lisandro

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QUOTE(raul @ Aug 19 2022, 01:48 PM)
Looks like casemiro is a done deal my favourite startup will be:

4-4-2

Martial - CR7

Erilsen - Sancho
casemiro - lisandro

Malacia - varane - lindelof - dalot
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good on paper. but realistically we need english captain for presence brows.gif
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I dun think I make much comment bout Casemiro although we know it’s a panic signing that has different profile than FDJ or ball progressor

I just find it funny u used Giggs and Thiago as example to make a snide remarks at some ppl
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one more CDM pls... any balia one will do... i duwan see mcfred again when casemiro injured... this duo already kena analyzed by opponents 9 9... put them both in is like handicap 2 players... plus kapitan handicap 3
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good on paper. but realistically we need english captain for presence  brows.gif
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good on paper. but realistically we need english captain for presence  brows.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 19 2022, 02:16 PM)
one more CDM pls... any balia one will do... i duwan see mcfred again when casemiro injured... this duo already kena analyzed by opponents 9 9... put them both in is like handicap 2 players... plus kapitan handicap 3
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gardner stay can dy..
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No wonder ronaldo silent until now. Maybe he knew casemiro coming brows.gif
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 19 2022, 12:14 PM)
He has only a year left on his deal, didnt start the first game of the season, they already signed his replacement, so its defo not a bargain but that doesnt mean he cant be a good player for us.
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he didn't start the first game because ancelotti want to rest players. carvajal and alaba also didn't start the game. for the last few years casemiro dont have backup. only this year real Madrid get a backup for casemiro. tchouameni is good but he still far from reaching casemiro level. If casemiro really leave, valverde will take his position.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 19 2022, 03:16 PM)
one more CDM pls... any balia one will do... i duwan see mcfred again when casemiro injured... this duo already kena analyzed by opponents 9 9... put them both in is like handicap 2 players... plus kapitan handicap 3
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Mctominay ok la can sit bench but Fred oso u want to bench him too??

Casemiro and Fred in midfield is already brazilian 1st team pair kan?
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maybe casemiro & fred will play together since both were cm partner in brazil nt.....at least no more mcfred...

fred i think only brazil coach & ragnick know how to use him well...

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Later Casemiro scam us just for salary increase tactic at Real Madrid. Confirm kena troll kaw2
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Later Casemiro scam us just for salary increase tactic at Real Madrid. Confirm kena troll kaw2
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Who cares? The guy is a hard man, so he will defo bring some fight into our midfield, he could be past it if not now, maybe in a year or two but we cleared so much wages and we havent really bought anyone this season, i rather the club waste money on players rather than having more money to show on the books then the glazers eat their dividens etc.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 19 2022, 05:10 PM)
Who cares? The guy is a hard man, so he will defo bring some fight into our midfield, he could be past it if not now, maybe in a year or two but we cleared so much wages and we havent really bought anyone this season, i rather the club waste money on players rather than having more money to show on the books then the glazers eat their dividens etc.
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Salary increase tactic to stay at Real Madrid la brother.
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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 19 2022, 06:14 PM)
Salary increase tactic to stay at Real Madrid la brother.
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Casemiro win everything edi at RM…

Get fat paycheck and treat Utd as a semi retirement club oso possible bro…
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so guys, casemiro HERE WE GO or not?

or another scam just to get his contract renewal in real madrid?? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 19 2022, 05:15 PM)
Casemiro win everything edi at RM…

Get fat paycheck and treat Utd as a semi retirement club oso possible bro…
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Hoping to get it done also. Or else got kena troll right front and left 🤣 DM usually can use 1-2 season before kaput. Jadilah. Better than nothing. Hoping chelsea don’t sailang FDJ. Keep your hand out of my boy bruh 🤣
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 19 2022, 05:24 PM)
so guys, casemiro HERE WE GO or not?

or another scam just to get his contract renewal in real madrid??  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Sabar2. Tengah register. He wants to play against Liverpool. 6 times against Liverpool Casemiro never lost 🙈
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Sabar2. Tengah register. He wants to play against Liverpool. 6 times against Liverpool Casemiro never lost 🙈
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"However, it may not be a straightforward deal for United, with Chelsea now looking to provide competition to sign Casemiro this summer.

According to Graeme Bailey and Tom Gott from 90min, Chelsea are long-term admirers of Casemiro and would be interested in signing him this summer.

Chelsea have reportedly been looking at the Brazilian for longer than Man United have, with co-owner Todd Boehly now considering a late bid for the 30-year-old.

A natural defensive midfielder has been part of Chelsea’s transfer wishlist, the report continues to reveal, with scouts looking at Casemiro."

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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 19 2022, 06:26 PM)
Hoping to get it done also. Or else got kena troll right front and left 🤣 DM usually can use 1-2 season before kaput. Jadilah. Better than nothing. Hoping chelsea don’t sailang FDJ. Keep your hand out of my boy bruh 🤣
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FDJ u see that kinda mentality better let him rot at barca bro….

Can see Lukaku like sulking behavior edi…

If really champion mentality got behave like that ah? Club suffer ask paycut u paycut la…tak suka want same gaji go to man utd or chelsea…

Ini mau stay barca and dont want pay cut

Tak kisah make barca board rage, xavi rage and pening and fans rage…

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 19 2022, 06:24 PM)
so guys, casemiro HERE WE GO or not?

or another scam just to get his contract renewal in real madrid??  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Casemiro sure almost confirm lah orga_laut

He got old best bud Barane and Cris Ronaldo there…
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Sabar2. Tengah register. He wants to play against Liverpool. 6 times against Liverpool Casemiro never lost 🙈
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unlikely enough time to register.. but he will watch and jinx them tongue.gif

for 30yr wont say its a bargain for 60+ but a good signing

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Fake news, sure.
Cuz I basically see no change from Ten Hag at all.

Still captain, still McFred, which is 2 core big issues.
What changed? Nothing.

His main plan was always to revive existing deadwoods, which is always going to fail.

He need to learn fast.
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Casemiro sure almost confirm lah orga_laut

He got old best bud Barane and Cris Ronaldo there…
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i think enough with questioning ETH pick maguire as captain this season.. its been decided. looking at the squad seem no other candidate. i think other players also pick him to be also.

whether he start or not different story.. tht depend on his performance from now on.
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 19 2022, 05:24 PM)
so guys, casemiro HERE WE GO or not?

or another scam just to get his contract renewal in real madrid??  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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or another scam just to get his contract renewal in real madrid??  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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It's 99% confirmed. Barring a failed medical, he will be watching from the stands when MU face Liverpool.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 19 2022, 05:30 PM)
FDJ u see that kinda mentality better let him rot at barca bro….

Can see Lukaku like sulking behavior edi…

If really champion mentality got behave like that ah? Club suffer ask paycut u paycut la…tak suka want same gaji go to man utd or chelsea…

Ini mau stay barca and dont want pay cut

Tak kisah make barca board rage, xavi rage and pening and fans rage…
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Fake news, sure.
Cuz I basically see no change from Ten Hag at all.

Still captain, still McFred, which is 2 core big issues.
What changed? Nothing.

His main plan was always to revive existing deadwoods, which is always going to fail.

He need to learn fast.
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The rot is from the top. When you have owners who dont want to put their money into the club, ETH had no choice but to work with the rubbish he had.

Now that the fanbase is in uproar do the owners do something? Where did all this money suddenly come from? Just a week ago we were going for Arnautovic and Rabbiot, bargain basement players. Now we are putting in 80m for Antony and 70m for Casemiro?

We shouldnt let them off the hook, it is clear they are taking it out of their usual playbook. It happened with Bruno, again with Sancho... Just get a big name and the fans will forget
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No matter it is casimero or FDJ, I will say welcome. I just hope it is not another Varane, buy star player and warm benches.

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Don't be stupiak la ...
The core issue is DM, is DM.
Kena pressing a bit then lost, kena pressing a bit then lost.

Prime time CR7 also no use ok.
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Please don't be so happy I don't want to dismiss any United players but

Remember before this, behind Casemiro was Ramos, Varane(in United), Marcelo, Dani Carvajal

Up front Kroos, Modric, Ronaldo(United), Benzema

These are all world-class players

While at Man Utd, behind Casemiro is Maguire, Luke Shaw, Dalot(decent), Martinez(proper could become world-class)

On Up front Rashford, Fred, Bruno(decent), Eriksen(decent)

These could drag him down to the lower level

Hoping the geniuses of ETH and some miracle could bring back the United top


All of these are panic buying just like Sancho, Bruno has no proper plan and does not give what ETH wanted
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Pairing casemiro with lisandro is a better and safer option currently
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we already buy a numbers of midfielder in recent years but in the end the one who will play week in week out is our duo mcfred.
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post Aug 19 2022, 10:04 PM

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Casemiro DM
Fred + Eriksen CM
LM - ??? Gakpo/ Anthony?
FW - Ronaldo/ Martial
RW - Sancho

Bruno can bench now
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post Aug 19 2022, 10:08 PM

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I really hope with the arrival of casemiro, we can allow erikson do his thing. He is by far our most creative midfielder
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Aug 19 2022, 07:36 PM)
No matter it is casimero or FDJ, I will say welcome. I just hope it is not another Varane, buy star player and warm benches.

Still, nothing is comparable to playing with Fridge in front of you.
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As much as we want to blame fridge, varane himself never looked convincing when he plays. It's like totally different player
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Typical Glazer move, signing a player a few years too late. Definitely not EtH's choice as Casemiro is definitely a different profile from FdJ. Nevertheless, he is still a world class DM and hope he can still fit in EtH's plan.

Funny how the money is suddenly available when #GlazerOut is trending. My guess is these are next season's transfer fund, using it this year to distract fans.

Murtough and Arnold decision to sack Rangnick really blew up in their face and Murtough is trying to save face now by chucking money to anyone who is willing to bite. Who is next?
- Antony (Plan A) or Gakpo (Depends whether PSV gets CL)
- Another MF
- RB
- Backup GK

One more week to go... tick tick tick

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Suddenly not a mention of the beloved VDB?
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Aug 19 2022, 09:25 PM)
Please don't be so happy I don't want to dismiss any United players but

Remember before this, behind Casemiro was Ramos, Varane(in United), Marcelo, Dani Carvajal

Up front Kroos, Modric, Ronaldo(United), Benzema

These are all world-class players

While at Man Utd, behind Casemiro is Maguire, Luke Shaw, Dalot(decent), Martinez(proper could become world-class)

On Up front Rashford, Fred, Bruno(decent), Eriksen(decent)

These could drag him down to the lower level

Hoping the geniuses of ETH and some miracle could bring back the United top
All of these are panic buying just like Sancho, Bruno has no proper plan and does not give what ETH wanted
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Tak boleh ini machiam. Think positive. Along the same line of thoughts, fridge has been playing behind mcfred. Now with casemiro, he could be a world class cb now biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 19 2022, 07:21 PM)
Maybe FDJ might change mind after seeing Casemiro coming...
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Hope this will happen.. maybe after seeing top signing he might get excited to join..
Or maybe after Antony deal's done..

FDJ is a must sign still..

Notice that when under pressure the board can do quick deal..
They've been holding back the spending..
If ETH win that 2 games and no pressure from fans, they probably not gonna spend..
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why must leave till lose 2 games only wiling to spend money? seems like really must boikot worldwide only they will takut n bagi spendings
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 19 2022, 09:25 PM)


Don't be stupiak la ...
The core issue is DM, is DM.
Kena pressing a bit then lost, kena pressing a bit then lost.

Prime time CR7 also no use ok.
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That Casemiro photoshop though.... lol.
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Every season if we start -6 points only start to wake up, you will realize that many a championship was lost over just 1 or 2 points.
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post Aug 20 2022, 01:42 AM

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We've been missing a bulldozer type midfielder since Keano. Casemiro is coming for your legs dear opponents.
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Transfer Talk: Harry Maguire-Christian Pulisic swap between Chelsea and Manchester United could be a summer shock

Chelsea have made a shock enquiry about Harry Maguire's availability amid growing doubts around the centre-back's future at Manchester United, according to a report from The Daily Mail. The England international has faced plenty of criticism in recent times but is of interest to the Blues as they struggle to complete a deal for Leicester City's Wesley Fofana.

Fofana does still remain the priority signing for Tuchel's side, with growing optimism that a deal could be completed after the Frenchman asked to be left out of Leicester's squad to face Southampton on Saturday. Even so, the Red Devils' interest in Maguire will be seen as a very interesting development due to questions surrounding whether or not the 29-year-old figures into Erik ten Hag's plans.

The report even suggests that it has been seriously considered that Maguire could not be picked to face Liverpool on Monday. This comes with Raphael Varane pushing for a place in the team after watching on from the bench while United have endured a terrible start to the season, losing against Brighton & Hove Albion and Brentford.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-transfer-t...-a-summer-shock

Already a successful transfer window if this happen 🤣

Casemiro 14!!!!!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by damnself: Aug 20 2022, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 20 2022, 07:32 AM)
Transfer Talk: Harry Maguire-Christian Pulisic swap between Chelsea and Manchester United could be a summer shock

Chelsea have made a shock enquiry about Harry Maguire's availability amid growing doubts around the centre-back's future at Manchester United, according to a report from The Daily Mail. The England international has faced plenty of criticism in recent times but is of interest to the Blues as they struggle to complete a deal for Leicester City's Wesley Fofana.

Fofana does still remain the priority signing for Tuchel's side, with growing optimism that a deal could be completed after the Frenchman asked to be left out of Leicester's squad to face Southampton on Saturday. Even so, the Red Devils' interest in Maguire will be seen as a very interesting development due to questions surrounding whether or not the 29-year-old figures into Erik ten Hag's plans.

The report even suggests that it has been seriously considered that Maguire could not be picked to face Liverpool on Monday. This comes with Raphael Varane pushing for a place in the team after watching on from the bench while United have endured a terrible start to the season, losing against Brighton & Hove Albion and Brentford.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-transfer-t...-a-summer-shock

Already a successful transfer window if this happen 🤣

Casemiro 14!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Aug 19 2022, 10:31 PM)
Hope this will happen.. maybe after seeing top signing he might get excited to join..
Or maybe after Antony deal's done..

FDJ is a must sign still..

Notice that when under pressure the board can do quick deal..
They've been holding back the spending..
If ETH win that 2 games and no pressure from fans, they probably not gonna spend..
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Aug 19 2022, 10:35 PM)
why must leave till lose 2 games only wiling to spend money? seems like really must boikot worldwide only they will takut n bagi spendings
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Tinfoil hat on.

Club did not want to spend. ETH had spoken out in the media of the need to invest but without result from the club.
ETH then threw the first 2 games of the season by playing the majority of last season's players. The resultant backlash and media pressure from the fans forced the club into a last minute shopping spree for new players.

Managerial genius.

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Casemiro for 60 Mil + among the highest earner... is quite a big RISK, but who else can we get honestly without these kinda offer.

i tot we will be investing in future, looks like we are not.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 20 2022, 08:42 AM)
Tinfoil hat on.

Club did not want to spend. ETH had spoken out in the media of the need to invest but without result from the club.
ETH then threw the first 2 games of the season by playing the majority of last season's players. The resultant backlash and media pressure from the fans forced the club into a last minute shopping spree for new players.

Managerial genius.
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Indeed. You might be right, especially after he has been told to lower down his expectations by the management. It's like him saying, "How low do you want me to go with the squad we have? Bottom of the league low, OK👌🏼."
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QUOTE(areankim @ Aug 20 2022, 09:12 AM)
Casemiro for 60 Mil + among the highest earner... is quite a big RISK, but who else can we get honestly without these kinda offer.

i tot we will be investing in future, looks like we are not.
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He is amongst the top 3 DM in the world. Everything is a RISK with Utd if not managed properly.
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Very surprised casemiro willing join. Nice capture! Who cares high wage. We desperately need players
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Actually u see…. We been chasing FDJ for 3 months and Anthony for months ended up nothing, then when the fans protest suddenly we can signed Casemiro in 3 days. This showing actually we can just that willing or not
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don't care if the new players costs a bomb, we as fans just want to see competitive team fighting for trophy
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QUOTE(EightPhantomz @ Aug 20 2022, 09:37 AM)
Indeed. You might be right, especially after he has been told to lower down his expectations by the management. It's like him saying, "How low do you want me to go with the squad we have? Bottom of the league low, OK👌🏼."
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Remember the 8-2 trashing against Arsenal years ago? The club owners quickly open their checkbooks and signed 5 players on the last days of the transfer window.

Me thinks this is the SAME thing happening to MU. Once bottom of league, suddenly Casemiro joins, then possibility of Pulisic - Maguire swap deal, Antony trying to force a move by not training with Ajax..... and maybe a last minute FDJ signing? whistling.gif
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Board bodo...no plan b. If execute plan b earlier, we might be in a better situation
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Aug 20 2022, 12:37 PM)
Board bodo...no plan b. If execute plan b earlier, we might be in a better situation
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Board die die listen to ETH since he die die want pansy FDJ - so now die la
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Isu dia sekarang..does current squad that lost 2 games have no QUALITY at all?individual at least..pening2..paling2 pun score goals..4-0?

Against brenfod & brigton je kot 🥶🥶🥶

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QUOTE(hairyhamzan @ Aug 20 2022, 04:51 AM)
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Aug 20 2022, 11:07 AM)
Very surprised casemiro willing join. Nice capture! Who cares high wage. We desperately need players
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he already won CL & La Liga and age 30. better go to a club that offer big wages and prepare for retirement.
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Rumors again. Yet, every fans will be happy if it is true.

I really hope Ten Hag changed his mind on Captain after these 2 matches.
Overall moral is one thing, but he shud know well about this turtle speed now.

Please sell Captain, please ...
Threatening the board to resign and bring all coaches along if the board don't sanction the request.
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QUOTE(damnself @ Aug 20 2022, 07:32 AM)
Transfer Talk: Harry Maguire-Christian Pulisic swap between Chelsea and Manchester United could be a summer shock

Chelsea have made a shock enquiry about Harry Maguire's availability amid growing doubts around the centre-back's future at Manchester United, according to a report from The Daily Mail. The England international has faced plenty of criticism in recent times but is of interest to the Blues as they struggle to complete a deal for Leicester City's Wesley Fofana.

Fofana does still remain the priority signing for Tuchel's side, with growing optimism that a deal could be completed after the Frenchman asked to be left out of Leicester's squad to face Southampton on Saturday. Even so, the Red Devils' interest in Maguire will be seen as a very interesting development due to questions surrounding whether or not the 29-year-old figures into Erik ten Hag's plans.

The report even suggests that it has been seriously considered that Maguire could not be picked to face Liverpool on Monday. This comes with Raphael Varane pushing for a place in the team after watching on from the bench while United have endured a terrible start to the season, losing against Brighton & Hove Albion and Brentford.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-transfer-t...-a-summer-shock

Already a successful transfer window if this happen 🤣

Casemiro 14!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm actually quite surprised got team want our fridge now...But you know what, plz3 take him away!

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