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lee82gx
post Aug 14 2022, 01:23 PM

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First of all, time to recognise we are a shitty team. Last season DDG and Ronaldo was OK, now even they infected by the virus.

Is it the fault of the owners, YES. Why? Isn’t it the fault of owners if your dogs bite people, misbehave and isn’t it the fault of owners if the employees don’t do their jobs?

Ok, the buck must stop somewhere. Time to wake up and smell the relegation roses. As a fan I don’t mind watching a different set of first eleven who are passionate to play. But not this entire batch. We don’t go to the same restaurant if they serve the same rotten food every time.

But there is no shame in admitting it is crap when it is crap. I don’t even want to talk about recruitment anymore.
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post Aug 15 2022, 01:08 PM

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Something most united fans prob don't know.

Before Ten hag, Marcel Keizer was the coach. He was highly recommend by bergkamp and jonk.

He was 1st coach of the reserve team. In which he worked with all the youngsters from that champions league semi final. He played some amazing football with that reserve squad. Nouri was part of that squad too.

then after that lost uefa cup final against Manchester united. Peter Bosz left and Marcel Keizer got the job.

In that summer there was the nouri drama, nouri who went into coma sad.gif. He was beloved by every player and staff. We got eliminated out of Europe in the qualification's. The nouri drama happened just before the qualifiers.

The rest of the season wasnt that bad. We played some very good football. But we where behind psv like 12 points. I dont think its that bad given the nouri drana impact.

Then all of sudden Keizer was sacked by overmars. One game before the winterbreak. This came as a complete surprise to everyone..he had a shaky start yes. But there was the nouri drama. He did get the sqaud back on track with some beatifull football. We smashed feyenoord and PSV with good football under him.

Keizer didn't deserve to get sacked..this was the general view of most supporters. With Keizer.. bergkamp was sacked too. The whole thing felt more like a attempt from overmars to get him in the position of most powerful. Because there where disagreements between Overmars, bergkamp and jonk.

Then in came ten hag. Overmars best personal friend. He was given directly 2 wingbacks by overmars. Something keizer repeatedly asked for but never got. Ten hag also brought his dearest friend/player from Utrecht with him. Zakaria Labyad. For 7 million. This guy

Ten hag finished 2nd. With some weird and bizarre choices/sqauds/substitutes/

Then that summer ajax raised the salary fee and transfer budget. Kept all their talents and stars. And Tadic and Blind where signed. So we had a super squad.

Ten hag just happened to be lucky to be in the right place and time. Never before Ajax had a sqaud like that. Yea once 20 years ago or so. We had a sqaud with zlatan, van der vaart, van der meide, trabelsi, sneijder, chivu. That sqaud almost got to the cl semi finals. But now we had some experience players with blind and tadic.

I know it sounds weird to say..that cl team who beat juve and real. That's not ' the ten hag playstyle' That's the ajax style, the foundation of that where build by Peter Bosz and keizer. Ten hag just happened to be at the right at the right time. Marcel Keizer would've achieved the same if not better.

there nothing special about ten hag. There are a lot ajax fans who are happy ten hag left. The season after that cl season. 19/20 now we begun to see what the real play style of ten hag is... Frenkie end De ligt left..

Ten hag bought Marin as a replacement for frenkie.. Based on one game of Ajax against standard liege where he saw him play. He was instant floppy.

The new qualifying campain started. Ten hag new master mind plan. Was to put two defensive midfielders in midfield. Alvarez and Martinez. Its not like mcfred. But it isn't also a good thing. We played against a Greek or cypros side I can't remember. We where very lucky not be eliminated by them it was on aggregate 4-3 or 5-4. Oh yea and an other buddy of Ten hag came. Quincy promes. We survived the cl qualification.

In the group stage against Chelsea at home we played with a coward defensive midfield. Alvarez and Martinez on the midfield. Ten hag who got his tactics wrong. We lost 0-1. Later in the away game, finally ten hag was brave enough to put the correct midfield the fans wanted. Martinez, vdb, and ziyech on 10! We where up 4-1..unlucky to get two reds in one foul. Which lead to 4-4. Later the decider game against Valencia at home. Ten hag went back to his old coward horrible tactics again. Playing with Martinez and Alvarez togheter on the midfield. Of course we lost 0-1 deservedly. The whole match was a shitshow because of ten hag tactics we where out of the cl. We went to Europe league to play against getaffe. Again ten hag tactics, line ups etc where horrible. Getaffe knocked us out of Europa.. A bit later on we went on the worst streak, draws, loses in the eredivisie in the history of ajax. We where still top somehow together with as. But we lost match after match. Corona was there and saved ten hag. With full stadiums ten hag would never ever be the manager again from ajax. There's no way the supporters are gonna accept that. But again he was lucky.. The eredivisie ended on 25 games because corona. Ajax where top of the table togheter with az. We had the better goal difference. They az had the better head to head. We where called champions because of goal difference. If that season didn't end we would've blow the eredivisie title because of stupid ten hag tactics



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post Aug 15 2022, 02:41 PM

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Take it with a pinch of salt whatever that Ajax fan says of his ex-manager. Remember we were very hot for him just weeks ago.

The important thing is to stay OBJECTIVE, and never to support blindly and never to criticize blindly.
I am damn sure right now he is has been shown a noob. And it is not fair to judge anyone based on 2 games.
But - Almost ALL PLAYERS bar 2 have had more than 2 games dammit.
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post Aug 15 2022, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 15 2022, 02:50 PM)
so ETH out bro? lol
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Just one post up I said I will support new manager. This time around, you can bet I will support him till relegate because I see an additional motive in getting rid of Glazers.

By the time we reach Div 1 and he cannot bring us up / make us lead the championship comfortably by game 10, then I will call for his head.

But again, I am GOING TO criticize the selection every damn match, and criticize the players every damn match and if they don't show heart and soul and run their damn legs off you bet I will boo them.

They ARE ALL PAID LIKE CHAMPIONS of EPL. They should show performance of champions. They are supposed to WIN EVERY MATCH because their salary is really beyond or equal to every top team. Not to mention there is no CL to be distracted by.
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post Aug 15 2022, 03:50 PM

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[quote=orga_laut,Aug 15 2022, 02:59 PM]
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who wrote this is a great example of an idiot. remember jose? anti-jose fans will said the same. stupid jose tactics parked-the-bus all that shit even won us some trophies with a 4/5 transfer targets yeah right. Erik ten Hag have to rebuild twice. without de jong and de ligt, and post corona. and this idiot said he is nothing? what a joke. a real 'nothing' manager will fail to win u any trophies. if Erik ten Hag was nothing, with that squad, he just can give Ajax 2nd place at best. super squad? blind and tadic and haller were super? LOL WHAT A FUKING JOKE

if ten hag is nothing, just compare him with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. back-to-back top 4, in almost empty stadium, with maguire as captain. guess what? maybe the same idiot will said ole is god thumbup.gif

oh yes, im a bit biased towards Erik ten Hag here. he is 'nothing'... really? what a joke. a nothing manager is like Ole the fraud, 3 seasons with high-wages players and got us to inherits the most shittiest squad ever.
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I don't disagree with you, that fan's POV may not constitute the full picture.
But at the same time, it must be fair that ETH has to be open for criticism. He cannot hide or beat around the bush when comes to his players and his support structure.

Assuming I know nothing of his past, I am not seeing the correct decisions being made by Erik, so far, in player selection and in signing new players. And please, don't give me that its not his job to sign players nonsense. I will refuse to believe it, and it is not a logical condition. We don't put our reputation and job on the line, and depend on a few John's and Dicks to do something that can cause us to get fired. I would not sign this contract of employment. It may be so in the past with Jose, LVG, but there must be lesson's learned. So, I tend to give him a D- minus of the job done so far.
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post Aug 16 2022, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 16 2022, 02:24 PM)
ini call cut loss dah  biggrin.gif
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lol! betul. Next step full liquidate and blah!
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post Aug 18 2022, 09:10 AM

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can drop the whole first team instead.
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post Aug 19 2022, 07:36 PM

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No matter it is casimero or FDJ, I will say welcome. I just hope it is not another Varane, buy star player and warm benches.

Still, nothing is comparable to playing with Fridge in front of you.
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post Aug 19 2022, 10:49 PM

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Every season if we start -6 points only start to wake up, you will realize that many a championship was lost over just 1 or 2 points.
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post Aug 20 2022, 04:42 PM

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i will personally drive him to london and ensure he takes the medical and sign the dotted line. chelsea can have him for free.
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post Aug 20 2022, 06:54 PM

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judging by the enthusiastic response maybe we can even buy a club to play him.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Aug 20 2022, 08:01 PM)
If by the end of the window we signed FDJ, Gakpo and Maguire to Chelsea, I will buy original jersey for the first time in 10 years to give money to glazer LOL
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lolllls last time i did this, we signed CR7 and it all came crashing down mate.
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post Aug 20 2022, 09:55 PM

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Maguire can play damn well in a team that has a back 9. This will cover his lack of pace, poor positioning, tendency to tackle his own team mates, and defeating his own offside trap. (Anything happen got another 8 team members to cover him).
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Aug 20 2022, 10:22 PM)
left side got koulibaly, right side got Silva. he stand in middle head away crosses can liao
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Not enough. He will grab silva in a bear hug and scorpion kick kouliably. Need another 2-3 CB to kau Tim other escapees from opposing teams.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Aug 22 2022, 08:41 PM)
precisely what do we think Varane can tell to Casemiro daily that makes him wanna come?

I mean like come bro, i'm warming the bench and having a great time?

There is a fridge we can run rings around in training and then during matches we can just put our feet up and cash our pay, while he slogs it out?

They love paying us huge sums and starting McFred?

VDB and you will make a great partnership on the bench?
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post Aug 23 2022, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 23 2022, 07:43 AM)
A composed backline to build distribution on, Varane & Martinez, really made a difference to the way we wanted to play.

Cristiano, no fault of his own, had to be left out as pace was required at the tip of the attack. As shown by the second goal.

First win of the Ten Hag era. And it just had to be Liverpool.
Time to return some of the jibes I"ve been getting from Pool fans on WhatsApp all week.
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Really don’t dare to venture out of the cave, have we really played like a top 10 team this time around?

I only looking forward to your review / analysis among all pundits.
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post Aug 24 2022, 08:13 PM

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As long as Cap not playing we have a better chance. Although last season we did equally as bad without him.

100 million United fans can’t be wrong. There is literally not a single football fan who thinks he is worth his starting 11 spot. Since even as a captain he can be dropped, let him be a bench warmer until a deal can be made for him la.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Aug 24 2022, 09:29 PM)
As long no maguire then its level playing field. If got maguire its handicap -1 ball to opponent
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Amen to that brother. I have been screaming he is a fraud for a long time, overseas fans can see through this quickly but England + MUFC fans somehow still dreaming of the WC semi finalist captain.
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post Aug 25 2022, 10:37 PM

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I usually don’t get over excited but sounds like Dick Arnold saying we are getting Antony. I don’t know how to embed the twitter where he seem to say yes to a random fan asking about it.
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Maguire,Shaw and Mcfred are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of problems in MUFC. If really they are the only problems then Ole would've easily saved his skin by putting in some 2nd layer team.

This brings us to the 2nd part of the problem, we serious depth issues. Personnel wise almost the entire first 22 is not fighting hard enough for the badge, jersey and privilege to pay for MUFC. Then, finally, only we see the problems in tactics and strategies.

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