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TSDoomCognition
post Apr 17 2022, 05:00 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Let's talk salary v8


V9 continuation from previous thread. What a crazy past few years it has been. With COVID transforming the job market, alongside with Great Resignation in the US influencing work culture everywhere else, some changes to format has been made. If the previous thread's revision is to provide a more comprehensive view on total remuneration (as single salary numbers are often deceiving), this round's changes in format is to capture latest trends of Work-From-Home, more annual leaves and future growth prospects.


Post format

Job Title :
Job Desciption :
Age :
Years spent in company :
Company :
Industry :
Tenure :
Employment Level :
Experience before joining (years) :
Highest paper qualification/ education background :
Location :
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours):

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM
Contractual Bonus (months): mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: X days in a month
Annual Leaves: X days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes / No / Partial?

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits :
Transport Benefits :
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Overpaid / Average / Underpaid / Don't know
Growth prospects : Good room for growth? At the end of growth spectrum for this role? Not much room for growth? Sky is the limit? No idea?
Where I will go from here : Describe the next role that you think you will be able to realistically get in your next jump.
babygrand123
post Apr 19 2022, 12:25 PM

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GamaX320
post Apr 19 2022, 02:10 PM

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Job Title : Software Engineer (Java Backend)
Job Desciption : Java backend
Age :28
Years spent in company : almost 3 years
Industry : Fintech
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 3 years
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 6000

should I jump for better offer or just stay in comfort zone?

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post Apr 19 2022, 05:19 PM

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post Apr 19 2022, 05:31 PM

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Job Title : Staff Engineer
Job Desciption : Responsible for product transfer from Design to NPI to Mass Pro
Age : 41
Years spent in company : 6
Company : -
Industry : data security products
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 12
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Double Masters UTM
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 hours on paper....unlimited hours if required.

Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD7650
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mths

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid (foreigner rate is lower....but the work is even more...)
Growth prospects : Good room for growth...but.....stress to the max to meet deadline.
Where I will go from here : Go n retire in msia

This post has been edited by Bossku_Johor: Apr 19 2022, 05:42 PM
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post Apr 19 2022, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(GamaX320 @ Apr 19 2022, 02:10 PM)
Job Title : Software Engineer (Java Backend)
Job Desciption : Java backend
Age :28
Years spent in company : almost 3 years
Industry : Fintech
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 3 years
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 6000

should I jump for better offer or just stay in comfort zone?
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enuff meh RM6000....with the cost of living now...better venture out....try singapore.....fintech good demand here


This post has been edited by Bossku_Johor: Apr 19 2022, 05:38 PM
ymjr95
post Apr 20 2022, 09:18 AM

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Job Title : HR Executive
Job Desciption : kuli generalist
Age :27
Years spent in company : 1 month
Industry : mixed, local small company
Employment Level : executive
Experience before joining (years) : 2.5 years
Location : Johor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 54 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 4000

Lost in life, not sure if this field is what I want.
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post Apr 20 2022, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Bossku_Johor @ Apr 19 2022, 05:31 PM)
Job Title : Staff Engineer
Job Desciption : Responsible for product transfer from Design to NPI to Mass Pro
Age : 41
Years spent in company : 6
Company : -
Industry : data security products
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 12
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Double Masters UTM
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 hours on paper....unlimited hours if required.

Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD7650
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mths

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid (foreigner rate is lower....but the work is even more...)
Growth prospects : Good room for growth...but.....stress to the max to meet deadline.
Where I will go from here : Go n retire in msia
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hey hey, wanna ask if you can give advice

is getting master a life changing experience? i was at the junction that either take master program at UTM or not, seeing that you took 2, would like to ask
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post Apr 20 2022, 09:22 AM

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post Apr 20 2022, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ Apr 20 2022, 09:18 AM)
hey hey, wanna ask if you can give advice

is getting master a life changing experience? i was at the junction that either take master's program at UTM or not, seeing that you took 2, would like to ask
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Life-changing? not exactly. I took it to get better job prospects, but the salary in MYR...cannot la........I decided to move to Spore when SGD converted is better....may look like a lot...
but frankly ....it's just nice...

The double masters program was a credit transfer program from UTM. M,Sc and MBA

It's good to have a masters in the long run when you want to go up the corporate ladder...and move into management...
a masters will be a stepping stone for you.

If you have the time and resources , then go for it....


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post Apr 20 2022, 05:37 PM

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Job Title : Sr Principle Engineer
Job Desciption : BAU task, in-house project engineer
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 1 and 3 months
Company : payment gateway
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 10 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : diploma with pro certs
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-42 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM19k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4~ mths (for 2021 performance)

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: wfh since day 1
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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post Apr 21 2022, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(hiroshi87 @ Apr 19 2022, 05:19 PM)
Job Title : Sr Principle Engineer
Job Desciption : BAU task, in-house project engineer
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 1 and 3 months
Company : payment gateway
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 10 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : diploma with pro certs
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-42 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM19k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4~ mths (for 2021 performance)

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: wfh since day 1
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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is this TnG?
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post Apr 21 2022, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ Apr 20 2022, 09:18 AM)
hey hey, wanna ask if you can give advice

is getting master a life changing experience? i was at the junction that either take master program at UTM or not, seeing that you took 2, would like to ask
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If you're in IT, which seems like it, better take related certs imo.
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QUOTE(AssToast @ Apr 21 2022, 10:36 AM)
If you're in IT, which seems like it, better take related certs imo.
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I'm coming from finance, which is not IT background so to say.. any advice on this as well?
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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ Apr 21 2022, 10:38 AM)
I'm coming from finance, which is not IT background so to say.. any advice on this as well?
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Your job title sounds like you would be doing data engineering/science so that was my guess. If you like looking at data maybe can delve deeper into AI/ML.

My lecturer once said along the lines that if you take masters without aim is like learning to make pineapple pizza when you actually like chicken pizza.
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post Apr 21 2022, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(AssToast @ Apr 21 2022, 10:48 AM)
Your job title sounds like you would be doing data engineering/science so that was my guess. If you like looking at data maybe can delve deeper into AI/ML.

My lecturer once said along the lines that if you take masters without aim is like learning to make pineapple pizza when you actually like chicken pizza.
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Yes I'm actually wanna go into ML but I do not have anyone to ask at the moment... If you don't mind, can you let me know what kind of certs I could take in order to be "professional certified" in data/AI/ML role?

I did some research but I was still generally confuse, like Azure certification is mostly on teach you how to use azure without showing you the meaning of statistics behind, alteryx is like teach u how to use alteryx and that's it, same goes to IBM one

And yes I'm currently thinking of taking masters just for the sake of career progression, but even my manager was unsure what should I take and what path will it leads me (like what ur lecturer says la)

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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ Apr 21 2022, 10:54 AM)
Yes I'm actually wanna go into ML but I do not have anyone to ask at the moment... If you don't mind, can you let me know what kind of certs I could take in order to be "professional certified" in data/AI/ML role?

I did some research but I was still generally confuse, like Azure certification is mostly on teach you how to use azure without showing you the meaning of statistics behind, alteryx is like teach u how to use alteryx and that's it, same goes to IBM one

And yes I'm currently thinking of taking masters just for the sake of career progression, but even my manager was unsure what should I take and what path will it leads me (like what ur lecturer says la)
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I think is good choice to take up ML as a lot of analyst job posting mentions this. I might not be the best to ask for this as I'm not too different from you in experience and ML is way too big of a field but I feel we should only be looking at "pro certs" by MS/Google/IBM when you have a workflow depending on it, or you know you can leverage the technology. At the core they are offering APIs that speed up the general ML workflow.

I've did a lot ML courses and they're all very similar (teaching the workflow), which leads me to believe we just have to practice as there's too many algorithms or techniques to be taught in courses. Maybe you can start with those general courses then work your way up to Azure/Google ...etc because I think these would make you "professionally certified" as you can leverage large scale AI in the cloud. Then maybe masters, because ML papers are mostly about implementing algo X on problem Y which is so specific.

There's some courses offered by big names like Standford or Google, you can look, but I think you can see from this list. They're more or less about the same things.

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QUOTE(AssToast @ Apr 21 2022, 11:15 AM)
I think is good choice to take up ML as a lot of analyst job posting mentions this. I might not be the best to ask for this as I'm not too different from you in experience and ML is way too big of a field but I feel we should only be looking at "pro certs"  by MS/Google/IBM when you have a workflow depending on it, or you know you can leverage the technology. At the core they are offering APIs that speed up the general ML workflow.

I've did a lot ML courses and they're all very similar (teaching the workflow), which leads me to believe we just have to practice as there's too many algorithms or techniques to be taught in courses. Maybe you can start with those general courses then work your way up to Azure/Google ...etc because I think these would make you "professionally certified" as you can leverage large scale AI in the cloud. Then maybe masters, because ML papers are mostly about implementing algo X on problem Y which is so specific.

There's some courses offered by big names like Standford or Google, you can look, but I think you can see from this list. They're more or less about the same things.
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Yep, I got the same idea from those ML courses too! Azure for example, they provide a mindmap for you, and teach you how to plug and play the model, that's it.

Same thing when i go for other python courses, they just teach you about which code you should write under which circumstances, and that's it.

there is no such courses as "professional certification" like comptia or anything in ML, its like a mixed bag of items and you do what you pleased.
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QUOTE(brianw87 @ Apr 20 2022, 05:37 PM)
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lol .. i am 1 of the lowest pay guy among my gang. it's all about hardwork bro ..
if u think i am getting good pay around my age, try to look at those doing cloud, blockchain web3 etc and their pay at their age .

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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ Apr 21 2022, 09:33 AM)
is this TnG?
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nope.. half-gov comp smile.gif

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