I guess Glider University shares one thing with me, Don't know? Don't do it!

Prevention is better than cure, your local vet and doctor will usually tell you this.

About the pear, I rarely ever feed them only one type of fruit for a prolonged time, they get 3 types of fruits daily that rotates within a wide varied list, every other day they get the glider mix. So far they didn't get diarrhoea when I included pear.

As a side note,
When you rotate a lot your glider's stomach will adapt to it. If your glider has been eating very minimal variety of fruits or had a limited diet all it's life before you got it, they can get sick if you suddenly change the diet as their stomach is not used to it. That's why it's important to know what the seller has been feeding them so you can change it without risking your glider's health.

It's like dog food, though many brands claim that their food is nutritionally balanced, I do not stay long on one brand because I doubt feeding only one brand will give my dogs all the nutrition they need. I always rotate within a few brands I trust, like this month Orijen, next month Acana, next next California Natural etc.

This post has been edited by Reanne: Jan 22 2008, 03:15 PM

Ahh, my savior!

That's why lar, it baffled me when they keep saying pears can cause diarrhea... It has never happened to me or other "old timers"

Variety is the main key!

I try my best not to give the same thing everyday, they still gobble up everything

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Eppp, trying to prove myself about all this suggie stuff... I'm taking the glider course!

I think they say got cert summore!

But so much modules to read and learn from

If I pass with flying colors, it will be worth it

Hahaha

*Tua-tua masuk University lagi...*


KP

Tried to find it over here (Kerteh n Kuantan), don't have. Wut to do? Afraid that they dont get enuff calcium. The petshop owner where we bought them ask to give them milk. Any type of milk. But i notice it caused diarrhea, so i stop feeding them milk. This is before i was introduced to this thread.

So now I feed them with yogurt, but only twice a week. I also give them papaya. That's the bes that i can do for the time being as the source of calcium.

Btw, they are eating now. So much also. But still worried about the calcium part. Vitamin, i got the delikate vitamin drops.

Protein, eggs mostly. Had to summon my courage to handfeed them mealworms.

Oh yea, btw, that pet shop in Brickfields. They are selling WC gliders there and there was a very big female that looked nice to me and I saw 2 lumps in her pouch, that was awhile back. Then recently I went to that pet shop to buy crickets, I saw the chinese guy, the one that usually sits in the office, talking to some other chinese businessmen and he held up the cage with that female.

What he proceeded to do shocked me and made me turn away in disgust. The glider had nothing to hide in, the best she could do was to sit in the food bowl with her joey, then the chinese guy lifted the cage and blew very hard and sharp at the mother, which caused her to panic and run to the farthest top of the other side of the cage. She looked so terrified and worried at the same time as she kept looking back at her joey in the food bowl. The joey looked barely a week out of pouch and it laid helpless in the food bowl, away from the warmft of it's mother until the man set the cage back onto the floor. I heard him saying about breeding them and how easy it was.

Such sick and twisted people exist, causing so much terror to a helpless mother just to show ppl that probably wouldn't buy because he's selling just a high price for WC adult gliders. God knows how many times he did that on that day just to show ppl.

Gliders can be considered lactose intolerant as they can only tolerate very small amounts of lactose, lactose in cow and goat milk is too high, that's why they get diarrhoea.

You need to get this brand, 'Pet's Own Lactose-Free Milk', or you can try to find lactose free milk for human babies, but make sure it's got no corn or soy products in it. But they don't look too bad, so feeding them a portion of yoghurt would have to suffice. If you can, try to get some Yakult yoghurt drink as it has probiotics and lots of good grade beneficial bacteria. Try not to feed too much papaya too often as I've experienced young joeys getting diarrhoea if fed too much.

Don't need the delikate vitamin drops, just provide more different types of fruits. Mango, water chestnut, persimmon, jambu air etc. Try and boil some chicken, give them the breast meat. Don't add anything, just boil in water.

This post has been edited by Reanne: Jan 22 2008, 03:58 PM

If you're squirmish to hand feed mealworms, get a tweezer.

I started with a tweezer, and now mealworms is nothing to me, infact I love watching or searching for those big squishy ones

If you want me to get it for you and post to Kerteh or Kuantan, let me know





That is just mean!!!

I can imagine the poor mommy and joeys condition...

I pray that one day the mommy glider will re-pay what that man did to her!


KP

The shop there feeds them mainly kuaci and supplemented water. Not even from a drinker, it's left in a hanging bowl so the water gets dirty very easily. That shop is a very very smelly, gross and unhealthy shop. Ben felt sick after going inside. I only go there for the crickets and mealworms.

Ohh, I wanted to share this!!!



Look...! A story book based on glider!

I love the illustrations!

Gonna search if they have it here at Borders or Kino... Or else order it!





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Eee, so bad lar...

Even the fish shop that I go for my mealworms, last time got WC gliders too, but I think not as bad... Although I pity them, but the aunty seems to give them a variety of fruits wor... Always different one every time I go... But they are very skinny... So sad...


KP

It's kinda cute in a way but that kinda freaks me out. :S

This post has been edited by Reanne: Jan 22 2008, 04:07 PM

Haha, I bet if you've seen some of the inside pages, you'd double freak out...

But I like it

The illustrator pays good attention to detail in a childish way

I like!


KP

crazymouse, i long long long time think to get glider already, but then got some trouble with financial and also time as i got hamster, gerbils, fancy mouse, and fish as well lo...
now need to wait lo, coz now mine current pet all going to reach their time limit already...
wait until some going off already then only get joey lo...

Thanks KP. I'll keep that in mind. I'll try to find the tweezer here 1st. But if cant find, I'll find u.
N i'll be wanting to order a bunch of stuff from u as well. But then, it can wait till u are not as busy as u r now. hehehe....

hm....i don really get what do u mean by Out Of Pouch. u mean 2 months of OOP joeys are better? and 1 thing i dun understand is wat do u mean by 3 months from birth means it's only 1 month OOP? u mean a joey will be ready to sale when is reaches 4 months?(2 months from birth and another 2 months OOP). kinna confuse here . mind to explain again?

I meant the milk, not the tweezer



OMG

*Falls off the chair...*

Then you seriously know nothing about suggies yet...

If you are seriously interested to keep suggies, you need to do some research dear...

It's not that 2 months OOP is better... 2 months OOP is the right age, is the correct age, the supposed age for a joey to be separated from their mother.

Sugar gliders are marsupial, so when a joey is born, they will crawl into their mother's pouch and stay in there/grow in there for 2 months.

All the while in the pouch, we cannot see it, touch it or take it out.

After 2 months being in the pouch, then they will come out. That is what we call Out Of Pouch (OOP)

Right after OOP, the joeys eyes will still be closed until it is 2 weeks OOP.

The joey will need to be with their mother until it is 8 weeks OOP because during this period they will be nursing and learning everything that their parents teach them.

Understand?

So the right weaned age is atleast 8 weeks OOP (or if you wanna add with their time being in the pouch, yes, it is 4 months after birth)

Clear?

KP

KP, better dont buy the book.. the glider is eating chocolates and sweets... not good for them! haha!

Wah, took a second look at the seller for the two male joey, arghh again.. very cute!

But I've ordered from crazymouse and cant wait to get from her soon.
and also stuffs from KP aswell, thanks u guys!

Anyway guys, I think the 1st page got plenty of info on diets or wat so ever..
So let them/us choose wats best for ourselves and for gliders.

FOR THOSE WHO LOVES NATURE!

When you have named them Cheekoo and Koochee, they are now your gliders...and i noticed that their names are in the reversed order, cute!
As time goes by, you will grow to love them more and more..
When your glider is still at such tender age, it takes a lot of TIME to care for them actually.. that was my previous experience, i almost fed them at 2 or 3 hours interval..with crushed fruits, applesauce.. I had to care for them when i was working.. i think you need to feed them as often as you can now..
Your gliders' destiny is changed at the moment you fell in love with them..

This post has been edited by silverwineus: Jan 22 2008, 06:46 PM

ooooo got it. thanks for the explanation.
anyway i'm not the 1 who wanna keep them. is my GF. anyway she's done many research about it. so i think it's time to buy her a pair or 1.

To all who knows this answer.. haha!

Wanna ask something here:

My friend bought a pair of adult sugar glider, and it's smelly. Do any of you know the product named 'Zero Odor' deodorizer?
Is it safe to spray the gliders?

Yeer... don't get. That product doesn't work and most of the Zero Odor in Malaysia is the Delikate product, which doesn't work. I wasted my money..... unless you import the original Zero Odor from US, then that works.

my glider bite off the nanah skin adi and its reddish and got blood liao now


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