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Introduction

Sugar gliders are little marsupials that have been taken as exotic pets in many countries. These creatures are different from normal pet rodents like hamsters, mice and rats. They have character, mood swings, emotional bonds and the sweetest nature for a pet that comes in such a small package. Commonly mistaken as flying squirrels, Sugar gliders can be both easy and hard to take care. Their general care is much more complicated than pet rodents and they require alot of affection and attention from its owners. Look at it this way, gliders are like 3 year old kids.... they act cute and can annoy us sometimes while at the same time needs our total attention and bond.

Sugar gliders are tiny gliding opossums from Indonesia, New Guinea, New Zealand and Australia. Wild sugar gliders live in colonies of 6 to 15 animals in tree hollows or other nests made of vegetation. They are nocturnal so will mainly spend most of their day time asleep, only waking up at early mornings and late at night to forage for food.

An adult sugar glider is about the size of a flying squirrel, approximately 5 to 7 inches long from tip of nose to base of tail. Adults in proper body condition weigh about 120g. The tail is fluffy, often curls on the end and usually is longer than the body length.

Sugar glider joeys are normally a nice slivery grey but as they age, they will shed away this soft joey coat and replace with their true colours. Some glider colours that we have here are the normal greys and a few shades of browns. Some would turn brown if they constantly stay in coconuts coz it stains the fur. You should not worry about the colour for eac sugar glider is unique in its own little way.

Where to get a joey? What age and size?

Petshops and suppliers do sell Sugar Gliders but please be aware if the age and size. Some shops may tell you that the younger the joey, the better but do remember, these animals when young needs milk to stay healthy. Also, our local pet milk or cows milk is not suitable since marsupials cannot tolerate lactose that is higher than 3.5%.

A guide to know which is the right age and which is not.

Never get a joey that looks like this:

Original photo by Hun







Photos as reference from www.glideruniversity.org

Underaged sugar gliders..... never get joeys that look like the ones in these pictures. They still need their mother's milk and warmth, they need more attention and more work than properly weaned joeys. Those pics, the joeys are only 3 weeks old Out Of Pouch.... joeys should be separated when they are more than 8 weeks Out Of Pouch... and that is the minimum age. The best age is actually 3 months....

Some people have experience their joeys dying... WHY? Coz the joey is too young, it is depressed and stressed.... a joey that young that is depress will not have any appetite for food, will catch cold and die coz it gives up living.

You should be getting joeys that look like these:


Orginal Photos by Reanne


Original Photo by Hun

Do get joeys that are older than 8 weeks Out Of Pouch. Never trust what petshops says. If you would like to get from a supplier but have no idea how to see the age or if the seller is responsible, do PM Reanne, krynzpeaches or crazymouse_yyh for guidance and information.

There are many sellers and suppliers here in LYN, so please beware of them. Some may tempt you into getting an underage joey by giving you false information. Some may sell you a pair package in order for a quick sales. Do your research first before buying.

There are a few good homebreeders here but they only have a few joeys available once or twice a year, so this is why it is hard to come about homebreeders.

Sugar Gliders as Pets

Tame Sugar Gliders just make the perfect pocket pet for they can travel anywhere with us in a little bonding pouch. They got happy little personalities that love to play and have physical contact with us. These creatures need attention. They are 100% social animals that live in small colonies in the wild. When we keep them in captivity, we must be able to give them a lot of attention and time. Play, bond, touching and feeding are all little things that we must do each day in order for our gliders to be perfect little healthy pets.

Gliders can live 10 to 15 years in captivity so they are considered a long term commitment. Make sure you can actually care for the glider for about 10 years before you get one.

Gliders are not like dogs, where you can train it with a leash and harness or collar and they can do tricks and come when called. Sugar gliders got minds of toddlers. They need to be socialized and trained as soon as you get them but do not train them as if you would train a puppy. No, they would not react to "Good Boy/Girl, shake hand and beg" kind of training and tricks. Gliders require a soft human touch when training. They can be trained to know their names, just be patient and repeat their names when you cuddle them, handle them, feed them and during play. Gliders will never know where to defecate and relieve themselves like cats and dogs. Litter boxes would not work. These creatures would do it anywhere they please.

Also, gliders are not really domesticated so they do have a few wild habits like scent marking, chewing and gnawing on items or us and also climbing all sorts of high places.

A fact to remember, sugar gliders glide, they do not fly so don't be a genius and try to make your glider fly like a bird. Sugar gliders have a gliding membrane that connects their front paws to their back feet. They will spread open when there is a need to glide. This is why harnesses and leashes should never be on them for it could tear the membrane and hurt them.

Important items to have before purchasing a glider!

- A bounding Pouch and sleeping pouch
- A large cage suitable for the glider in the long run
- Fruits and glider mix with supplements
- Knowledge on sugar gliders and joey care
- Get in touch with someone that has experience with gliders.

Males or Females?

It is best not to get a male and female pair. Why is that so? Well, a glider can live for 8 to 12 years on average. A glider can readily breed once mature, some would start breeding at 8 months old while some start only at 2 years. Yes, it may sound tempting to have little joeys but can you be that dedicated? To sell one off can also be heartbreaking for you. So to avoid such pain and also overbreeding for gliders, you should either have a single sex pair or get the male castrated if with a female.

Is there any difference with males and females? Physically yes, females have a pouch on their tummy, it is like a belly button-kind of opening. Males would have their testicles looking like hanging cherries. The males when they mature, would develop a bald patch on its head. This is normal. The bald patch is the scent gland. Males have another scent gland on their chest and also at the anal area. Females do have scent glands to but only at the anal area.

Males musk, means covering their scent all over their territory. Females will mark but very little.

2 males can get along well if there are no females around. But 2 males can fight if a female is about coz they would fight over breeding rights. 2 females get along well too.

If you are thinking about breeding, please please please do read the caresheets and also research more on glider breeding. This is not simple and in the long run, over breeding can stress a glider and can cause it to have a short life span. Not healthy for them.

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General Breeding Information

In this forum, we do not encourage breeding if you do not have the time and knowledge but here are a few websites to guide you if you are curious to know. Also it has pictures and about joey growth:

http://www.petsugargliders.com/sggrowth.php

About milk for gliders:
http://www.pygmypets.com/sg8.html

Good Care Sheets:
http://www.sugarglidercentral.com/wiki/ind...ider_Care_Sheet
http://www.exoticpetvet.com/breeds/sugarglider.htm
http://www.sugar-gliders.com/sugar-glider-care.htm
http://ksks.essortment.com/sugarglidercar_rdxi.htm
http://www.sugargliderbabies.com/info.htm
http://www.thesugarshack.com/
http://thepetglider.com/index/
http://www.glideruniversity.org/index/cont...tegory/5/19/64/
http://www.glideruniversity.org/index/cont...tegory/5/25/64/
http://www.glideruniversity.org/index/content/view/36/64/

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Sep 14 2007, 09:57 PM

Housing

Adult gliders can tolerate a temperature range of 18°-31°C. If you ever keep in an air condition room, never keep the cage directly under the air flow of the glider could catch a cold. Recommended temperature for an air cond room with gliders would be 23°C to 26°C. Gliders in air cond rooms would need warm bedding like fleece or old tshirts to keep them warm in their pouches. Why pouches? Firstly, it is soft and warm, it is also very comfortable and easy to clean and wash. Try and avoid hideboxes for hamsters and birds, coconuts with holes, plastic bird houses. These things just causes your glider to hide more from you and it is hard to clean and also to get your glider out of the hidebox or coconut. A timid glider may become over protective of it's coconut or box and will be harder to tempt it out than a glider that is in a sleeping pouch. Fabric for the pouches should be absorbent materials such as fleece or cotton because it keeps humidity from building up inside, and also "breathe" so that moisture and smells don't build up. It's also easy to wash. If you use materials such as plastic or glazed ceramic, your gliders will eventually take on a brownish tinge as their fur is stained by the trapped moisture, and they probably won't smell as nice as they should.

As for cages, the bigger it is, the better for gliders! Do not be fooled by people saying that hamster cages are good enough or fish tanks. Even small bird cages are too small for them.

Here are some pictures from the Internet as an example of suitable cages:


Dimension: 30"Length x 18"Depth x 55"Height.


Dimension: 18" x 14" x 34"


Dimensions: 60" tall x 30" wide x 30" deep


Dimensions: 19" X 28" X 72


Cage is available at Pet Safari for RM100, Petaling Street petshops Rm85 but blue in colour with rounded roof.

Websites on sugar glider cages, even a How To page:
http://exoticpets.about.com/cs/sugarglider...rglidercage.htm
http://exoticpets.about.com/cs/sugarglider...rglidercage.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/facehugger/cageplans.html

You can use coconut decorative pots but make sure they are not glazed. Polished ones are ok.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=214243

You can get creative with cage accessories. You can use plastic link chains, twine rope, nylon rope, hammocks, flower pots... the list just goes on with your creativity. Check out Garage Sales for sleeping pouches that are a must have for gliders.


Wooden toys for birds do make excellent toys for gliders.

Gliders are arboreal, they need lots of climbing exercise. You can get hold of ExoTerra Vines and make a creeping perch for your gliders to climb up on. Get hold of safe non-toxic branches and use natural fine twine to create climbing ladders or stands, make it up to your own creativity.

Besides climbing material, gliders do love to run on wheels so getting a quality wheel is good for their health. The safest wheel for gliders are Wodent Wheels, not found locally but gladly there is a bulk in Garage Sales for this quality wheel.



Bedding and Cage Substrate

Now it must seem that sugar gliders look like rodents, so some petshops would recommend you to buy hamster wood shavings for your gliders. This is a very big mistake. Never use hamster wood shavings on gliders for the wood would secrete phenols which could cause lung damage in the long run.

Gliders love to sleep in their hideboxes or coconuts or sleeping pouches but they do love it when there is something soft for snuggling. Do not give our normal bath towels. You can just use plain old soft tissue paper. Fleece pieces could be made into blankets. Another safe material would be our cotton tshirts. Get 1 of those Rm3.90 cotton tshirts from Carrefour or Giant hypermarkets and cut the shirt into little pieces. Make sure there are no strings or holes in it. The reason why tissue paper, fleece and cotton tshirts are recommended is that very often gliders like to chew and kick around the material. Stringy towels or holey cloths would tangle the gliders, causing the lost of limbs or worst, death from suffocation. Also, never use sponge or pure cotton.

As for cage substrate, always make sure there is a wire mesh separating the gliders from the substrate at least with a 1 inch gap. You can use plain old newspaper, corn cob bedding, Breeder's Celect Recycled Paper cat litter, Litter Star silicon cat litter pellets or Careline Wood base cat litter. All this can be found in Pet Safari.

For cage accessories, you can contact krynzpeaches

For cages good for gliders, you can contact jtl

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Feb 26 2008, 07:53 PM

Bonding

The very first day you get your glider, it would obviously be a bit scared and needs to adjust it's new surroundings. Place the joey in its pouch and let it have some alone time in the cage. Move the cage to a darker part of the room away from loud noises. Place an old shirt that you have worn into the cage or drape it on top of the cage so that the glider can at least get a whiff of your scent. Place some food and water and let your glider adjust for a day without much disturbance.

The following day. Get your joey or glider accustom to you by touch it. Then have it inside the bonding pouch and carry with you during the day. Gliders are nocturnal animals, means they sleep during the day and are active late at night. Carrying them in a bonding pouch during their sleeping period quickens the bonding process. They like to be against our warm body, hearing our voice, getting our smell and scent into their system. It feels comforting. Don't expect that a glider or joey would become tame in 1 day or 1 week. This bonding process takes months to become successful. Once the glider gets used to our smell, our voice and our warmth, they will look up to use like a friend or companion instead of someone who just feeds and cleans them.

Do remember, they are still animals so gliders will bite, scratch, make noises or try to run away if they feel scared or uncomfortable. So patience is the key. Also, these smart animals know how to "bully" their owners. Some will show anger by biting or attacking or crabbing. This is normal. Never be afraid of such things. Be brave and handle the glider so that it knows you aren't afraid of it. In future, your glider will learn to respect you properly.

Joeys are also easier and faster to tame and bond than adults. Most of the adults in the market are captive bred but they are wild at heart coz they have never been tamed or handled. So Adult gliders need extra time and extra attention when it comes to bonding and taming.

Some questions that came up...

My glider is tame, but he won't return to me. What should I do?
Every glider has a different personality so not all would return to their owners. When you let a glider out of its cage, make sure to glider-proof the room. Sugar gliders are intelligent animals but they do have a mind of their own. Some are comfortable to stay on you and won't leave you alone. Some prefer to play and explore only returning occasionally to make sure you are still there while some just prefer to play away by themselves. Treat them as individuals with attitude.

My sugar gliders have started to bite. Is this normal? What can we do to discourage this?
This is quite normal in bonded gliders. What is the exact reason? Nobody knows why but we can make assumptions. In the wild, sugar gliders gnaw on their favourite trees. Since we are large beings, we may feel like trees to them. Also, bored gliders do like to play bite and gnaw on fingers. Some biting can also be a sign of hunger. If your glider does this as a habit everyday to you, then teach it that biting gives unpleasant things. Everytime your glider bites you hard, blow into its face and say "NO". Most gliders hate it when we blow into their faces.

Example of pouches and cage accessories for sugar gliders:






Original photos by krynzpeaches

Must Sugar Gliders be Kept in a Pair?

There are many cases against keeping sugar gliders alone due to their nature in living in a colony of gliders. Keeping gliders in at least a pair is recommended because many people cannot give half of their time to their gliders.

Gliders can die from loneliness so there is no way to keep a glider alone locked up in the cage for most of its life.

Gliders can certainly be kept alone if the owner is able to spend tons of time with the glider (we're talking about at least 12 hours). This is easier than it's been made out to be. Gliders kept singly will only require 1 hour of play-time but snuggling up to their owner, seeing them every hour or two, receiving strokes murmurs from their owners is what keeps the glider from being lonely. Being pocket pets, gliders can be brought to almost everywhere so they're easy enough to keep by your side for 12 hours or more.

But then if you get 1 gliders at once and try to bond with them, they may not bond as quickly or as closely to you. The best would be obtaining a single glider first, bond and tame it... and in about 2 months time get your 2nd glider to bond and tame. Bonding is alot of hard work but it totally pays off when you see how well and friendly your glider is to you.

Most of us here keep our gliders at least about 10 hours a day on us. We bring them to college, outings or work places in their bonding pouches. Will it cause any trouble? Well, for joeys, they can make noises like crabbing and hissing but this is only a phase. Once they get used to you and your routine, they will sleep like logs in their pouches. Of course, do check with the rules and regulations of your work place or college if they are against pets.


Glider Scent

Male sugar gliders have a scent gland in the middle of the top of their head, which causes the typical bald spot in the center of the wide part of the black stripe there. Another gland is located in the middle of their chest. A third gland, an anal one, is shared by males and females alike. The females also have a scent gland in their pouch.

The male's forehead and chest glands are used in marking his territory and his mates with his scent. Gliders produce at least three distinct odors. One is a sweet, flowery smell; another I don't know how to describe, but it is not really offensive. It can get relatively strong at times, when they are breeding, but after a few days it dies away again. The third is a pungent smell that is produced by the anal gland when a glider is afraid.

Gliders use urine to mark their territory, so you will need to clean their cages and furnishings periodically. Otherwise though, they are very clean little animals

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Sep 10 2007, 04:00 PM

Diet/Nutrion from krynzpeaches

A good and balanced diet can make all the difference not only to humans, but Sugar Gliders too! This will ensure a healthy and long happy life as well as a more clean and slightly better smelling environment

Like the saying "We are what we eat..." So don't take lightly on their diet.

Sugar gliders thrive on sweet substance just like their name, however they cannot take simple sugar like we do, the sweetness must come from natural sources such as fruits. In the wild they require sweet substance from nectar, tree sap, manna, honeydew and fruits, so in captivity, to simulate as close to this, we must provide them with a variety of fresh fruits daily.

Sugar gliders are omnivorous meaning, they don't only need fruits in their diet but insects too for their protein intake. In the wild they get to chase and eat a variety type of insects, but in captivity we normally give them farm raised* meal worms, crickets or boiled chicken meat for their protein. Although there are other types of insects that can be given to sugar gliders, unfortunately we do not have them available here in Malaysia.

DO NOT feed your sugar gliders insects that is captured in your backyard or house compound area, they may contain harmful pesticides that can cause illness to your sugar glider.

For captive sugar gliders, it is also very important to provide them with a daily staple food which can either be a pre-set feeds** that are meant for omnivorous animals or mixes. Unfortunately there is NO pre-set feeds available for sugar gliders in Malaysia. Luckily mixes are something that we can whip up ourselves or be purchased on LYN To make your own mixes, there are plenty of the recipes available in the net, however, personally I feel that we need to make a few adjustments to the recipes in the net to accommodate our sugar gliders in Malaysia. Watch out for cereal, alot of baby food cereal in Malaysia contains milk and soya, which is not good for a glider's health.

Here's a breakdown of the 3 main food category intake for captive sugar glider. Always feed to a ratio of 60% fruits and vegetables and 40% protein. (Increase the protein to 50% for breeding sugar gliders especially moms with joey/s In Pouch or Nursing.)

1) A fresh source of fruits or vegetables. The fruits or vegetables are best to be chopped into grab size pieces as sugar glider likes to grab hold of their food by hand to eat them.
*For a list of fruits and vegetables that is has been fed to our local captive sugar gliders plus some remarks about it, click on the spoiler below.*



2) A fresh source of protein. Farm raised* mealworms or crickets or boiled chicken meat. Be sure to always gut load your mealworms or crickets first before feeding your sugar glider

3) A daily staple of mix. (This is a must since we do not have any other pre-set feeds** for their staple diet.)

Vitamins and Calcium supplements (and other supplements) is a need for captive sugar glider to ensure a balance and healthy diet. Most of the food sources provided still lack of vitamins and especially calcium. By giving them these extra supplements, we can ensure them of a long and healthy life

Most recommended vitamins and calcium supplements (like Vionate and Rep Cal) are unfortunately NOT available here in Malaysia, however there are other brands that has been found similar to these in Malaysia which is Repti-Vite and Repti-Cal. Vitamins and calcium supplements are normally sprinkled on top of their daily food serving. Not more than a pinch per glider and not more than one serving per day. Means if you have added the supplements to their mix, DO NOT add them to their other foods. Too much of the supplements can be as harmful as not giving them at all.

Another great supplement that can be added to their diet is yogurt. Yogurt is high in protein and calcium plus bacterial cultures that promotes the absorption of calcium better. You can feed them plain low fat yogurt or choose to indulge them in some naturally flavored ones. Not more than 1 teaspoon per glider 2 or 3 times a week only. Avoid getting fat-free yogurt. The best are low-fat yogurt for our gliders.

Finally, ensure that fresh clean water is available at all time. Water bottles such as the ones used for hamsters are highly recommended compared to water in dish bowls because water in dish bowls will get easily contaminated by their food, poo and pee.

Some NO foods / CAUTION foods and why.

1) NO corn - Although sugar gliders will readily dive into it, we must not include corn in their diet because the phosphorus content is higher than any other food, thus do not offer any benefits to sugar gliders except more phosphorus that could lead to bone deficiency.

2) NO avocado - Very high in fat.

3) CAUTION on grapes - Although there is still research going on about this, we must caution on the intake of grapes or raisins due to some death in sugar gliders that points to some of the substance found only in grapes. I'd say better safe than sorry.

4) NO iceberg lettuce - Non nutritional value and can cause watery poo!

5) NO chocolates - Chocolates are a NO-NO to all animals. It causes a toxic chemical reaction in most animals.

6) CAUTION on high fat content food - Nuts especially are high in fat. Some will offer sun flower seeds to their sugar gliders, but do this sparingly and strictly as treats not a part of their diet.

7) NO fried food - Again, very high in fat.

8) NO cat or dog food - Although most commercial breeders feed their sugar gliders with cat or dog food, they just merely want to substitute the fresh food that needs to be prepared daily, to something easy and lasting to eat without considering their long term health and not to mention - Cheap. Cat food is designed for cats, same goes with dog food. They are not meant for sugar glider. Not to mention that cat or dog food can cause lumpy jaw (because it is hard), intestinal blockage and kidney failure in the long run.

* Farm raised mealworms or crickets are those you can buy from our local pet shops.
** Pre-set feeds are those commercial dry staple food specially for sugar gliders.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Sep 12 2007, 08:58 PM

Glad you and Foxy are doing fine heheheh... Can she jump on you when you put her on the table and stand a bit away?

Ah, ok, will add that to the 1st post. Great picture.

Vitamin, I only trust Repti Vite since it is quite ok. Repti Cal has added Vit D3 but so far better than other calcium supplements in the market. If you cannot find Repti Cal and Repti Vite, look for calcium that are for humans but make sure it is pure calcium, no added vitamins or minerals in it. There should be no dairy product in it too. Only use 1 tablet crushed into powder for 1 mixture of Leadbeaters Mix.

No, you cannot use those honey. Those wild or asli honey are raw, it may not be safe. Get the supermarket kind, Pure honey.

I would advice not to use honey for joeys that are below 4 months old coz sometimes it can cause diarrhea.

Any supplements, you should give slightly less than a pinch a day. It is really hard to measure a pinch but anything more could be too much for out gliders. A pinch of vitamin and calcium shared by 2 gliders is ok but if 1 glider takes a full pinch, that is too much.

Do take note that Repti Cal and Repti Vite will be expiring in April 2008. The bottle is pretty big so my advice is to share it with 3 people if possible, if not it would be a waste since you won't need so much.

As I know, Repti Vite is still available at Pet Family, Pet Safari do not carry this. Repti Cal is practically sold out in almost every shop. Must wait for next shipment.

Do not be tempted to get Wardley Calcium or Sera Calcium and Vitamin.... they contain too much things a glider don't really need. The calcium is not pure, alot of Vit A is inside and other minerals.

You can use the Vitamin drops for small animals. LM Farms or Delikate is good enough.

Yes, it is considered as Vitamin supplement.

You would have to research more on the mix for gliders. Try and find one that is well rounded in nutrition.

Yups, KP is doing the diet. I a bit penat with all the typing coz not cut and paste but most my own words. Only 1 or 2 paragraph I cut and paste.

You won't find the pouch at any petshop. It is only found in LYN.

Mine poo damn alot! LOL.... eat fruits and mix, alot of poo poo. Pee like waterfall.

Don't add the 2 new gliders to your current ones, it is not healthy.

That is not dry mealworms That is tubifex, pound worms that eat pond shit..... also there are added preservatives inside meant for preserving it dry and it is ONLY suitable for fish. Who told you to feed tubifex worms? I wouldn't even touch live ones that I have for my fish coz they are quite gross.

Please do not substitute insects with what you can find at petshops and fish shops that are either preserved or processed. Just feed live ones. It is much healthier and safer. You may end up giving gut problems to your glider if you experiment on petshop stuff.

Gliders memang active. I punya pun lompat sini sana. Gigit, you read the 1st page. I dah explain.

The vitamin for reptiles in Ikano are not suitable. Sera or AZOO are not suitable. Only Repti Vite is ok. If you cannot find vitamin powder, get vitamin drops for hamsters.

No, there should not be added magnesium coz our dosage for magnesium is too much for gliders.

Oat drink is ok. But you should check and make sure it has no oil, no soya and is free of sugar and preservatives. I still believe the only milk suitable for gliders is Pets Own pet milk which is Lactose free.

Yogurt is the best source of calcium but never give more than a teaspoon each day. Best is half a teaspoon. Too much can cause diarrhea. Never choose fat free yogurt. Feed Low Fat yogurt or normal yogurt.

Sugar gliders cannot take anything that is made from soya bean. Tofu is made with a solidifying powder that could cause health problems in gliders when taken too much so the best is not giving any.

Our sweat salty mah. Contains alot of minerals. Gliders like to lick up sweat hahha.

That is a good site. That is not the amount of calcium. It shows which food has the highest calcium to phosphorus ratio. We should give foods that are high in calcium and low in phosphorus. Since a lot of fruits are low in calcium, this is why we must give calcium supplements.

Hahaha.... don't do it too often hehehe....

That is spitting out the pulp. All gliders do that.

Yes, it is Aristopet, that is the manufacturer. Name of product is Repti Cal and Repti Vite. Rep Cal and Rel Vital is a different brand and different Manufacturer. It is to add on any food that is to be fed on sugar gliders. If you add in mix, no need on fruits....

What in the world were you looking at? What you mean fat fat? Vitamin drops is in a bottle, liquid, is to be mixed into the drinking water.

I don't think you read what I stated.... I already said a few times, Repti Vite...... but you still don't get it.

All mixes can be kept for 1 month. Websites do stated that it is a month's supply. You better read carefully, you seem to be missing out, even my statement above also you missed out. Read back my other postings, I also stated Repti Cal and Repti Vite are the only safe supplements to give.

If you add the calcium and vitamin everyday, it has to be less than 1 pinch. But what I do is put everything in the mix and freeze. 1 small spoon of calcium and 1 small spoon of vitamin. Use the kfc spoon that you use to eat the mash potatoes.... Teaspoon also can but must be level teaspoon.

You have to keep in freezer, not where you put soft drinks. It is keep in the place where you put ice and meat.

It will smell sour and taste bad....

Make sure it is not too young. Pet Safari are not always truthful with age. Never be tempted to take really young gliders unless you have done your research on raising underage joeys and know how to keep 1 in an incubator....

Firstly, the stock is old. Any Repti Vite and Repti Cal that expires in 2008 is stock from 2005. I did say the stock would expire in 2008 a few post before. The manufacturer made the product to have a shelf life of 3 years.... after the expiry date, it can only be used for another 5 months, after that cannot be used anymore. The local distributor of Aristopet won't get new stock till the old stock expires. This is normal in business.

The food, you should never defrost it completely. Only take out from the freezer for 30 minutes, scoop out what you need and return back. It will not spoil. I have been doing this and also selling it since October 2006, no complications. If you defrost completely and return back and keep doing this, of course it will spoil.

Hmmm.... how come people always mistaken that the egg yolk is bad? Do you know that all the nutrients and minerals are all in the egg yolk? The egg white is just protein. How would a baby chick survive in the egg if it doesn't have egg yolk? That is common sense that the yolk is nutritious. If the recipe says use whole egg, then use it. DO NOT change the recipe at all. Follow it, if not, you will miss something crucial out of the diet.

Ah, yah.... honey is not really good if given too much. I actually prefer fruit jams.... the ones without added sugar and preservatives are quite expensive but make excellent licking treats hahahah.... good fruity sweeteners too for mix.

Hahahah.. Lollypop sure happy. Bagi more types of fruits lah. Mine suka Papaya, Jambu Air madu, rock/sun melon. Paling suka is the sun melon. So sweet and crunchy lah.

DOB.... memang I dunno coz I didn't breed her.... big agak agak could be mungkin Middle of May.

I read gliders don't really like dried mealworms. You better stop giving the tubifix worm cube lah. Go get normal mealworms, crush the head then give lah. My gliders don't care dead or alive, all also eat insects and mealworms. Even my 2 month old joey also eat crickets now.

Aiyah, spit out the skin is normal. Sugar gliders are animals that take more of the nutritious juice or liquids, leave the skin..... mealworms the skin is actually not good to swallow so they spit out. Almost all gliders do that. As for fruits, the pulp got no taste, just bland fiber. They take more sugary liquids than the fibers.

Now at least Ah Pit can eat good food.

I got 1 suggestion. Read it somewhere. Make a solution and spray it at areas where geckos are normally at. This is not harmful to pets.

If we spray insecticide or use any chemicals, scared it would affect the gliders. My room is insecticide free, but then I got an air freshener hanging on my air cond, that's about it hahaha.

Make a solution of Cayenne Pepper, with some Tabasco sauce, a squirt of dish washing liquid, garlic essence with a bit of water. Put in a spray and spray on areas you think geckos crawl about. You have to do this a few times.

If you see a gecko, spray it with ice cold water, it would drop down from the wall and ceiling then you just grab it and throw outside lah.

I like geckos, they eat up the flying insects around. I love my leopard geckos hahaha...

Why I would suggest using a non-chemical base repellent is that gliders actually would eat geckos! Serious! I have seen it with my own eyes..... well, not my gliders but someone else's lah.

Yah, the sticky paper can also work.... but I don't quite like hahaha...

Yah, it is ok. I also leave the mix overnight, plus some fruits, normally next morning all gone or just a bit left. That is quite normal.

Hahaha... Yah, I also love geckos.

Yups, the mix should be smooth. No bits and pieces. It has the consistency of milk shake to me. Quite smooth with no lumps.

Har? Use filter? Just throw everything into the blender. If your blender cannot make everything smooth, means it is not a good blender.

Organic shops sell fruits jams with added sugar and no added sugar. Get the one with no added sugar.

No wonderlah.... Get a blender lah. For the sake of your glider LOL.

Painting the chemical also not a good idea if we let our gliders out to free range. KP lets her gliders out to play and wander, the thing with chemicals is, if we got pets, be it spray or powder or liquid, it may 1 day harm our pets.....

KP,
I dunno will smell or not lah coz I never do such things to gecko hahaha.... but most websites say use cold water to zap them off the wall to shock them. Other people say geckos hate peacock feathers.... but I found that funny. Maybe you go find peacock feather and tie on Iggy and Luna's cage lah heheheh....

Gliders actually like to play catch with string and ribbon.... but they will get bored if play too much lah. They like to jump and catch, like cat hahahh.