Parents want children to study very noble courses so that got face at the CNY round table.

The fight for sense of superiority already started since Form 4. Anak kamu aliran apa? Sains atau sastera?

kesian, sounds like your company is sunset industry lel.

all the top, most exciting firms these days only hire engineers or software engineering grads.

Palantir, a data analytics company at the forefront of pretty much everything only hires engineers who can code.

Tesla, a electric vehicle company at the forefront of EV revolution, hires thousands of engineers to develop their cars.

Amazon, Google, Facebook, & etc. Hires a good mixture of engineers and software dudes.
When the revolution finally lands on Malaysian shores, straight away engineers will be in demand.

Finance is a sunset industry. Nowadays, bots can do the trading. Brokers are all online base.

Accountants, ILPs, mutual funds, savings plans, stoke brokers on the floor at KLSE, bankers, loans officers and more are Boomers liao. Very soon, automation will take over their jobs and lots of finance/accountants will be out of work. lel.

Don't forget, Accountancy is 99% likely to disappear in the next coming years as software & AI can handle this liao. Sucks to be an accounting grad that nobody wants to hire anymore.

This is very true. Almost everyone wants to hear that you’re engineer, medicine, or lawyer.

How about university? Do they actually care about uni rankings? Like go UM study?

Whether sunset ke sunrise ke.... what I'm trying to say is each field of study is valuable to their own field of work...

Not sure how to get this through your head but engineering has many field of studies.... you sound like you only know engineering = engineering.... you do know there are aerospace engineer, environmental engineer, architectural engineer, chemical engineer etc. right??

Also... are you confusing computer programmer to engineers?? Try calling a master in chemical engineer code shit for you... I can guarantee that person would give you the middle finger...

Even ourselves want to get praised for able to secure a spot in one of the above profession. That's how Malaysian society is shaped sadly.

Very few has the passion in writing novels, movie, etc. Right from young, parents tell you that your life will be doomed if you dont do science. That's Malaysia has no master piece like Harry Potter, life of pie.. etc all we have is project jalan Raya and corruption practices by the approving authority.

you do realise that computer engineering courses exists right??

And no, you don't even realise that a chemical engineer actually knows how to code.. lol. Their subjects taught at uni already have python and C++ la. Sau pei la. Do you actually think engineers dunno how to code ah? lol.

Electrical engineer also know la.

Why do you think Google, Amazon or Facebook hire engineers?? They are IT focus company what... Why then do they hire electrical, mechanical, chemical, instrumentation control engineers in the thousands?

And no, you must know what field you study is valuable to the world. Otherwise, you will become obsolete and quickly find out that your profession is no longer needed in this fast pace, tech & IT driven world. My argument is that not all degrees were created equal. There are more superior and better degrees to do. Engineering is one of, if not the top choice to do. No matter whether you choose to practice engineering in your working life or not. It's still a very wise decision to do it as I've shown that even in this IT driven world, engineers are at the forefront of the development of society. And they always have, & always will be in demand.

Sadly, I can't say the same about accountants or finance, and there are many articles alluding to the demise of accountancy as a profession in the coming years as AI and automation is quickly taking over their jobs. As an engineer, I can tell you how often I have to use software in my profession. And the answer is very minimal. Alot of things are still decided by me.

Meanwhile, your finance loan officer no longer is in control of any decision. It's all done by software and back of end. They end up becoming paper pushers.

very very few and far inbetween.

The AI is cutting 1000s of jobs. Nowadays, accounting firms only need to employ 2 maybe 3 people to oversee the backlog and vet that the AI is functioning properly. If got issues, they will just refer to the software engineer or data analyst to figure out what happened. The accountant also needed for official signing purposes only. Their role become like the Agong. Sit at the throne, & shake legs. The rest of hundreds maybe even thousands of  staff are no longer required anymore. So honestly, only the cream of the crop & people who are established within the industry will get to keep their jobs.

Everyone else, any new grads, and more will likely be told to go find work elsewhere. Most will likely end up at macdonalds flipping burgers. 

Same can be said of finance background people.

Better reconsider doing accountancy or finance course. Those traditional jobs are fast disappearing in this new age of technology and automation robots. 

The only future proof jobs in this new tech driven world are the jobs that are developing this AI technology. Which are engineers & IT professionals.

I would still choose to become an engineer over IT because the engineer is usually the one in charge of the entire thing. From conceptual design, building, and even implementation and execution of the technologies involved. Meanwhile, IT grads are like the new age draftsperson. Instead of working on detail drawings, the IT coder is now tasked to work on coding the software and they are explicitly told what to do by the engineer who oversees the entire operation and implementation.

Engineers & Architects will still rule this world. As long as technology is what is driving human civilisation, engineers are the master-minds and the leaders. 

Don't believe me? Just go search up the background education of CEO of most top companies. Their background will likely started from engineering expertise.

From your statement that an accountant is only needed for official signing purpose, we can conclude that your understanding of the accounting profession is indeed very basic. Either the scale of the company that you have seen is small, or you come from the future. As of now, no accounting firms can employ 2-3 people to audit a proper company.

A modern accountant's role is not limited to bookkeeping. Automation can only takeover part of an accountant's tasks. In fact, automation is welcomed because it eliminated human errors and freed up a modern accountant's time to perform other tasks.

As of today, bots cannot:

1) Determine the optimum capital structure of a company
2) Determine the optimum group structure of a company
3) Determine the optimum deal structure in an M&A / JV etc
4) Launch cost saving initiatives for the group (tax savings, logistics etc)
5) Help my negotiate with external parties

Bots simply do not have the business acumen to replace me as of today.

But its ok. We can see that all thes facts do not matter to you because you are here to seek validation that you are intellectually superior as a human because you are an engineer. We can feed your ego. Technology is indeed truly what changes the way we live. If you are the chief engineer at Tesla, Google, or even SEA tech companies like Grab, hats off to you. 

All hail Liamness the holy saviour of humanity. He who passed a 4-year engineering degree.

From your statement that an accountant is only needed for official signing purpose, we can conclude that your understanding of the accounting profession is indeed very basic. Either the scale of the company that you have seen is small, or you come from the future. As of now, no accounting firms can employ 2-3 people to audit a proper company.

A modern accountant's role is not limited to bookkeeping. Automation can only takeover part of an accountant's tasks. In fact, automation is welcomed because it eliminated human errors and freed up a modern accountant's time to perform other tasks.

As of today, bots cannot:

1) Determine the optimum capital structure of a company
2) Determine the optimum group structure of a company
3) Determine the optimum deal structure in an M&A / JV etc
4) Launch cost saving initiatives for the group (tax savings, logistics etc)
5) Help my negotiate with external parties

Bots simply do not have the business acumen to replace me as of today.

But its ok. We can see that all thes facts do not matter to you because you are here to seek validation that you are intellectually superior as a human because you are an engineer. We can feed your ego. Technology is indeed truly what changes the way we live. If you are the chief engineer at Tesla, Google, or even SEA tech companies like Grab, hats off to you. 

All hail Liamness the holy saviour of humanity. He who passed a 4-year engineering degree.

To be clear, AI is not synonymous with bots.

Numerous individuals use the terms interchangeably. However, the true distinction between AI and automated systems is as follows:

AI is capable of learning in the same way that humans do. We do not program them to perform a particular task. Rather than that, we program them to learn things. As a result, they are capable of self-learning and performing a specific task independently. This is especially true for algorithms based on deep learning. For example, if we feed the AI 1000 images of cancer cells, he can learn the features of cancer cells and determine whether or not a new image he has never seen before contains cancer cells. The remarkable thing is that you can train him using images of other objects (not just cancer cells) to accumulate knowledge and become more intelligent over time.

Bots are intelligent computer programs that can perform tasks autonomously without human intervention. However, this does not mean artificial intelligence, as bots cannot learn from experience or mistakes. Nonetheless, certain AI algorithms can be used to develop bots.

Seems like you know jack shit and trying to double down... pathetic

Which of the civil, electrical and electronic, chemical, and mechanical engineering disciplines is the most difficult? Because of the math and physics involved, I believe electrical engineering is the most difficult. For example, in electromagnetic fields theory, the double and triple integrals used to understand the behavior of charged particles, which cannot be seen with the naked eye, truly required good imagination and logical thinking. Artificial intelligence algorithms, such as deep neural networks used in digital image processing and analysis, necessitate a strong mathematical foundation to comprehend machine learning and deep learning techniques.

Consider convolution neural networks. Understanding how the neural network can learn the features of handwritten numbers independently already requires a significant amount of brain energy. We haven't discussed how to create a novel convolution neural network architecture capable of automatically detecting cancer cells in medical images. The mere mention of artificial intelligence puts many people off (not for interested people).

That is only introduction to one or two topics in one engineering field…

Parents want children to study very noble courses so that got face at the CNY round table.

The fight for sense of superiority already started since Form 4. Anak kamu aliran apa? Sains atau sastera?

From your statement that an accountant is only needed for official signing purpose, we can conclude that your understanding of the accounting profession is indeed very basic. Either the scale of the company that you have seen is small, or you come from the future. As of now, no accounting firms can employ 2-3 people to audit a proper company.

A modern accountant's role is not limited to bookkeeping. Automation can only takeover part of an accountant's tasks. In fact, automation is welcomed because it eliminated human errors and freed up a modern accountant's time to perform other tasks.

As of today, bots cannot:

1) Determine the optimum capital structure of a company
2) Determine the optimum group structure of a company
3) Determine the optimum deal structure in an M&A / JV etc
4) Launch cost saving initiatives for the group (tax savings, logistics etc)
5) Help my negotiate with external parties

Bots simply do not have the business acumen to replace me as of today.

But its ok. We can see that all thes facts do not matter to you because you are here to seek validation that you are intellectually superior as a human because you are an engineer. We can feed your ego. Technology is indeed truly what changes the way we live. If you are the chief engineer at Tesla, Google, or even SEA tech companies like Grab, hats off to you. 

All hail Liamness the holy saviour of humanity. He who passed a 4-year engineering degree.

  I think you jump into wrong rabbit hole.
In Malaysia, most university got Basic and Advanced Level for Electromagnetic Theory.
You do not need to jump into really deep into triple integrals.

Also even I went for Huawei MY, I don't see anyone talk about playing with "Triple Integral Electromagnetic Theory" Maxwell's Equation, and other bullshit.

Also Convolutional Neural Networks, its more towards "application based" compared to design those from scratch.
You want to learn design of CNNs you better go take Computer Science or Software Engineering and a Degree in Mathematics 

You be surprised, alot of kids from the 2000's generation all now Art Stream > Science Stream.
My high school used to have 3 science stream classes shrunk into 2 classes edi because youngster nowadays focus in Media related jobs.

Anyhow, Science Stream in Malaysia also kinda doomed lah.
Even I saw my friends 50+ people masuk Science Stream, those still in STEM field one only like 10-20 ppl only.
And many study degree they no like, change career fields edi.

You be surprised, alot of kids from the 2000's generation all now Art Stream > Science Stream.
My high school used to have 3 science stream classes shrunk into 2 classes edi because youngster nowadays focus in Media related jobs.

Anyhow, Science Stream in Malaysia also kinda doomed lah.
Even I saw my friends 50+ people masuk Science Stream, those still in STEM field one only like 10-20 ppl only.
And many study degree they no like, change career fields edi.