Acca better

Unless u wanna become hawker with fame

Ok bro. I wait for the day AI can negotiate on my behalf. You highly estimated AI.

The day AI can do that, engineers would be out of job too since AI is so smart.

Ppl say AI can do 1-5 leh. Maybe he come from 100 years in the future. Hahahah.

The general consensus is AI and automation can takeover the bulk of the work in financial reporting and auditing that nobody likes to do to begin with. There are a few areas of financial reporting and auditing that AI can never takeover.

If the day comes that AI is really that smart, then AI can takeover engineers job too.

This post has been edited by ComingBackSoon: Jun 7 2021, 08:15 PM

Since I'm so free now let me entertain you and show you the 1st page of my Google Results.

I didn't cherry pick the articles. All are from my first page of Google Search. I dunno about you, but this does not look "unequivocal and resounding yes" to me. Unless your engineer degree have taught you a different meaning for what "unequivocal and resounding" mean.

https://medium.com/human-unity/will-account...rs-2be8cf966fab
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/education/2...ace-accountants
https://www.toolbox.com/tech/artificial-int...-in-the-future/
https://www.accountingtoday.com/opinion/let...ace-accountants
https://floqast.com/blog/will-robots-take-o...g-is-automated/
https://www.quora.com/Will-accountants-be-r...e-next-20-years
https://www.thesundaily.my/business/will-ar...tants-BE4556056
https://www.itp.net/news/94006-can-ai-and-a...ace-accountants

But the startup company IPO usually done by the founder, who themselves is the engineer or programmer.

Errrrr. Nope.

It is done by a team of investment bankers, lawyers, and accountants.

Most engineers and programmers know jack shit about corporate laws, let alone lead the IPO process.

You go take a look at the VC world. Many startup founders who are programming and engineering geeks can be easily taken advantage of. Only know how to code and build products. Some of them already lost control of their company and still didn't know about it, still working hard at writing codes to enrich their VC slavemasters.

By then they no longer need low-tier engineer since AI can take over. However, they still need people to monitor and configure it.
As old job got replaced, a new job will surface.

I would think the practical uses of the subjects you mentioned are pretty minimal unless you're in academia

But it does serve to weed out weaker students that are not engineering inclined. Deterring more ppl who are not inclined to take it up would mean less grads competing for the same pool of jobs

Beside it must have prepared you for Huawei

Pretty sure you if you made it pass those subjects and more you wouldnt have a problem going thru the latest 3G PP release documentation, understanding the call flow, KPIs to monitor for troubleshooting or optimisation or signalling structure for network interworking. Consider them an entrance test of the long road ahead haha

PS you still have exams there?

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 7 2021, 09:15 PM

I'm pretty sure traditional engineering course (civil, chemical, mechanical) doesn't teach C++.


Btw, those who think that AI will replace accountant/doctor/lawyer is so naive, they will work alongside them. A software system is pretty damn fragile, you think that it can handle everything so smoothly? Just look at driverless tech, how many years of hype already?


This post has been edited by Darkripper: Jun 7 2021, 09:32 PM

What are you talking about? Civil, mechanical students do learn c++ in their course.

Pretty sure somemore, where the hell you get such confident.

But i agreed, AI is mostly a tool not replacing human.

This post has been edited by koraget: Jun 7 2021, 09:55 PM

Ya lo. And who will be the one who decide how to configure the AI for financial reporting?

According to Liamness, it is the engineer who studied 4 years in uni. Engineers are the master race.

All hail Liamness the holy saviour.

Truly appreciate your articles concerning the impact of artificial intelligence on human sources. The subject is intriguing. It appears as though the topic has evolved to include whether artificial intelligence will eventually replace accountants. Let us avoid becoming too fixated on accountants. Instead, let us discuss whether or not AI will eventually supplant humans. That will make the discussion more comfortable. The sources you cite are Google articles, and most of them are unsupported by research. There is no methodology employed, and the statements are unsubstantiated by experts. Allow me to provide you all with credible sources and compile them.

There is a study done by Grace et al. [1] that provides the results of a comprehensive survey of machine learning researchers about their opinion on the advancement of artificial intelligence. According to their findings, within the next decade, machine learning researchers anticipate that AI will beat humans in a variety of tasks, including translating languages (by 2024), writing high-school essays (by 2026), driving a truck (by 2027), working in retail (by 2031), producing a popular book (by 2049), and working as a surgeon (by 2053). Furthermore, AI will exceed humans in all activities in 45 years and automate all human professions in 120 years, with Asian respondents anticipating these dates significantly sooner than North Americans.

In response to the coronavirus, robots were swiftly deployed [2]. They materialized out of nowhere to clean airport floors and collect temperature readings from passengers. Hospitals and universities have implemented Sally [3], a salad-making robot, to replace staff in dining halls. Malls and stadiums have purchased Knightscope security-guard robots [4] to patrol vacant real estate. Moreover, another paper by Vaishya et al. [5] states that healthcare organizations urgently need decision-support tools to assist them in managing this virus and receiving timely information to help avoid its spread. They claimed that employing artificial intelligence may significantly add to our understanding and suggestions for developing a COVID-19 vaccine. This outcome-driven system enables the accurate screening, analysis, prediction, and follow-up of current and future patients. Numerous AI algorithms have been used to track data from confirmed, recovered, and fatal cases.

Another interesting question is whether AI will eventually take over the world. This is highly improbable. Many computer scientists see an AI revolution in which humans and AI coexist and benefit from one another’s capabilities, but humans closely regulate AI [6]. Humans would continue to have a role in society in this scenario, innovating and resolving ethical concerns about AI (naturally, what humans are excellent at) [7]. Although the duration of this parallel link is uncertain, it may be long enough for humans to create a higher form of intelligence, therefore narrowing the gap between AI and human cognition and avoiding AI supremacy [8].

Credible Sources:
[1] K. Grace, J. Salvatier, A. Dafoe, B. Zhang, and O. Evans, “Viewpoint: When will AI exceed human performance? Evidence from AI experts,” J. Artif. Intell. Res., vol. 62, pp. 729–754, Jul. 2018, doi: 10.1613/jair.1.11222.
[2] S. Vilendrer et al., “Rapid deployment of inpatient telemedicine in response to COVID-19 across three health systems,” J. Am. Med. Informatics Assoc., vol. 27, no. 7, pp. 1102–1109, Jul. 2020, doi: 10.1093/jamia/ocaa077.
[3] S. Masroor, H. Bulut, Bahrudin, and C.-Y. Lin, “Review on powered mobility and meal preparing assistive devices for physically disabled persons,” in Mechanisms and Machine Science, vol. 78, 2020, pp. 16–28.
[4] E. E. Joh, “A certain dangerous engine: private security robots, artificial intelligence, and deadly force,” UC Davis Law Rev., pp. 569–587, 2017, [Online]. Available: https://lawreview.law.ucdavis.edu/issues/51...um/51-2_Joh.pdf.
[5] R. Vaishya, M. Javaid, I. H. Khan, and A. Haleem, “Artificial Intelligence (AI) applications for COVID-19 pandemic,” Diabetes Metab. Syndr. Clin. Res. Rev., vol. 14, no. 4, pp. 337–339, Jul. 2020, doi: 10.1016/j.dsx.2020.04.012.
[6] M. Guihot, A. Matthew, and N. P. Suzor, “Nudging robots: Innovative solutions to regulate artificial intelligence,” Nudging Robot. Innov. Solut. to Regul. Artif. Intell., 2017, doi: 10.31228/osf.io/5at2f.
[7] S. Amershi et al., “Guidelines for human-AI interaction,” in Proceedings of the 2019 CHI Conference on Human Factors in Computing Systems, May 2019, pp. 1–13, doi: 10.1145/3290605.3300233.
[8] A. Webb, “The big nine. How the tech titans & their thinking machines could warp humanity,” J. Chem. Inf. Model., vol. 53, no. 9, pp. 1689–1699, 2019.

Maybe can share which university prospectus or course outcome document showing they teach C++ in traditional engineering field?

At least not for Universiti Malaya, because I studied there. Its either Matlab or Fotran.

I don't have much time to entertain you but look at this from NUS.

https://ivle.nus.edu.sg/V1/lms/public/view_...From=StuViewBtn
https://ivle.nus.edu.sg/V1/lms/public/view_...From=StuViewBtn

This post has been edited by Darkripper: Jun 7 2021, 10:21 PM

USM's EE course structure:
https://www.usm.my/images/pdf_ijazah/06elec..._electronic.pdf

electronic is not one of the traditional engineering field. Open eye and look at my post. Read.

Serious question.
Accountancy and Engineering which profession has the higher chances of earning more with 10 years experience or more?

Even for electrical engineering the students still study that course covering C++. Btw, E&E is a traditional engineering fields. You've left it out. Such a popular traditional field how come you can forget?

Accounting.

Engineers don't get paid well in Malaysia. In other words, top engineering jobs are not available in Malaysia.

Unless you are in software engineering. Software engineering is the shit right now, like what SAP consultants were 5-10 years ago. Can earn in USD some more.

After reading some of the comments here, it seems engineering is harder to study. SAP consultants plenty in India.
Now demand over here is less unless you are really good.

Stupid? Haha… go Sit yourself all in one sitting Then talk Big