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post Jun 27 2021, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jun 27 2021, 11:21 PM)
my friend here in ipoh already owned 2 type of brompton design body. 1 is aceoffix and another is unbranded handmade in indonesia..

the indonesia weld are not perfect, but all measurement are 95% brompton. all brompton parts are compatible. riding feel are not the same like aceoffix. more likely feel like pikes. also this frame very hard to find.

the aceoffix frame is 98% brompton. the 2% is near the seatpost clamp. the frame is 400g lighter than brompton and feel most likely riding like brompton.

as for conclusion after testing both frame, compare to pikes i might go for aceoffix frame. even though its MCO, i will wait more untill my financial are better. thats why i said i might need at least 1 year
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the aceoffix price is quite steep compare to pikes…might just bite the bullet and get real B…haha.

good to know your circle of friends have tested so many variants of B copy frame. your experiences are much appreciated, this really benefits our readers here.
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post Jun 28 2021, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 27 2021, 11:27 PM)
the aceoffix price is quite steep compare to pikes…might just bite the bullet and get real B…haha.

good to know your circle of friends have tested so many variants of B copy frame. your experiences are much appreciated, this really benefits our readers here.
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if u calculate, the aceoffix bike are less cost compare to new brompton and u get premium parts with it.

unless u get used unit, but still i save few things by recycle my parts.

since i had 2 wheelset, and much likely few upgraded unused part i need to gather few more things to setup another bike.

yeah, me and my friend really study about the B option. my friend invest nearly 9k and get 8.8kg brompton look a like bike with 5speed external gearing. not all premium parts on his bike, but still can managed lighter and compact bike.

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post Jun 28 2021, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jun 28 2021, 12:06 AM)
if u calculate, the aceoffix bike are less cost compare to new brompton and u get premium parts with it.

unless u get used unit, but still i save few things by recycle my parts.

since i had 2 wheelset, and much likely few upgraded unused part i need to gather few more things to setup another bike.

yeah, me and my friend really study about the B option. my friend invest nearly 9k and get 8.8kg brompton look a like bike with 5speed external gearing. not all premium parts on his bike, but still can managed lighter and compact bike.

sorry for being silent reader all of this time. not much picture to spam laugh.gif
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very interesting. do u have some pics of ur friend bike? the 5speed external gearing using what brand? hubs are just normal hub?
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post Jun 28 2021, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jun 28 2021, 12:01 PM)
very interesting. do u have some pics of ur friend bike? the 5speed external gearing using what brand? hubs are just normal hub?
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later when i met him i snap, didnt bother much as im planning using internal gear
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post Jun 28 2021, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jun 27 2021, 10:44 PM)
hahahha.. im on journey to build my 10th bike one by one collecting parts 🤭😅
hope i can stop it laugh.gif laugh.gif
last time if im not mistaken got oyama bike with sram x4 groupset. but dont know still exist or not.

newer bike nowdays,
more likely will have ltwoo/sensah or some shimano compatible parts but not shimano. if u can find full shimano parts for folding bike, never doubt to buy it.

in your case, if u like sram parts u can build on your own. i love sram shifter bcoz of the ergonomic feel and pull ratio (exact actuation system) between road and mtb are the same. and that is another reason sram dont have like shimano grx groupset coz both road and mtb can be mix and match easily.

as an addition,
if u wanna setup full sram component, bear in mind sram road parts crankset (must gxp, bb30 cant fit folding bike) and fd (brazed on) quite hard to find either used or new coz malaysia market  have tons of shimano parts either new or used.

last time i mix sram mtb and road component. sram x5 9s shifter, sram mtb casette, sram x5 rd, shimano fd and sram apex crankset. after collecting part by parts for 5 years (mostly used), now im running full sram road component.
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I notice for folding bikes, the gearing hubs are all inside the back wheel. So maybe that's why don't have compatiblility with sram shifters
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post Jun 28 2021, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jun 28 2021, 12:01 PM)
very interesting. do u have some pics of ur friend bike? the 5speed external gearing using what brand? hubs are just normal hub?
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i met my friend today. sadly he already sold his bike for rm9k. he said very rugi coz many titanium parts with it.

here is the picture of the bike
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jun 28 2021, 03:01 PM)
I notice for folding bikes, the gearing hubs are all inside the back wheel. So maybe that's why don't have compatiblility with sram shifters
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do remember, sram already owned sturmey archer. one of the legendary internal hub gearing company. for that, sram has developed sram dual drive system. u can find the info on the net
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post Jun 29 2021, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jun 28 2021, 10:59 PM)
i met my friend today. sadly he already sold his bike for rm9k. he said very rugi coz many titanium parts with it.

here is the picture of the bike
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do remember, sram already owned sturmey archer. one of the legendary internal hub gearing company. for that, sram has developed sram dual drive system. u can find the info on the net
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nice looking bike.
why he sell it? u should buy it from him. haha tongue.gif
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post Jun 29 2021, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jun 29 2021, 11:17 AM)
nice looking bike.
why he sell it? u should buy it from him. haha  tongue.gif
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he said wanna buy brompton raw laquier.. after testing it, he dont like it bcoz so heavy

so now he build back another one laugh.gif
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post Jun 29 2021, 01:42 PM

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today had a chance to try my setup

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what is this new setup?

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can u spot the different?

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im running 3x3 on my pikes. 3 outer cog, and 3 internal hub gear. pheww, really hardwork done to make it work. nearly surrender and abandon my project 🤦

lucky ny friend help me out to find special cog and spacer
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post Jun 29 2021, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jun 29 2021, 01:42 PM)
today had a chance to try my setup

user posted image

what is this new setup?

user posted image

can u spot the different?

user posted image

im running 3x3 on my pikes. 3 outer cog, and 3 internal hub gear. pheww, really hardwork done to make it work. nearly surrender and abandon my project 🤦

lucky ny friend help me out to find special cog and spacer
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very nice food panda box biggrin.gif

how do u mount the 3 speed external? mind to share what cogs u use?

This post has been edited by siauann: Jun 29 2021, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jun 29 2021, 01:34 PM)
he said wanna buy brompton raw laquier.. after testing it, he dont like it bcoz so heavy

so now he build back another one laugh.gif
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omg! mega_shok.gif
like that ur friend rugi 2 times bangwall.gif
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anyone has the raleigh classic?

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It looks solid at the shop but the gear level and brakes etc looks not too strong.

Maybe spend abit more for dahon or tern?

Not looking to cycle long distance. Maybe to basketball court or speedmart (5km). but if buy dahon can go kesas. what you think? will it break under heavy load on hill? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ7Dh8qXlwc this guy seems ok punishing the frame

any idea why not on raleigh website?

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post Jul 1 2021, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jun 29 2021, 04:14 PM)
very nice food panda box  biggrin.gif

how do u mount the 3 speed external? mind to share what cogs u use?
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at 1st attempt,
i try to put 11s cog. can fit, but i cant lock it with ring given. nearly give up, my friend find for me 12s cog and it fit nicely. lucky 11s chain still can be used.

and yeah, my friend who help me find this cog rugi 2 times by selling his aceoffix bike 🤦

QUOTE(nonexno @ Jun 30 2021, 06:58 PM)
anyone has the raleigh classic?

user posted image

It looks solid at the shop but the gear level and brakes etc looks not too strong.

Maybe spend abit more for dahon or tern?

Not looking to cycle long distance. Maybe to basketball court or speedmart (5km). but if buy dahon can go kesas. what you think? will it break under heavy load on hill? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ7Dh8qXlwc this guy seems ok punishing the frame

any idea why not on raleigh website?
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i had expirience upgrade my friend raleigh classic. from what i can say, it cost a lot than the bike itself.

almost everything he upgrade and left stock is the frame and handlepost. braking are so so, wheelset and gearing are ok for taman spin but cannot go far for performance or endurance. u need to consider it, if u like the bike.

This post has been edited by azamunekurone: Jul 1 2021, 06:25 AM
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jul 1 2021, 06:24 AM)
at 1st attempt,
i try to put 11s cog. can fit, but i cant lock it with ring given. nearly give up, my friend find for me 12s cog and it fit nicely. lucky 11s chain still can be used.

and yeah, my friend who help me find this cog rugi 2 times by selling his aceoffix bike 🤦
i had expirience upgrade my friend raleigh classic. from what i can say, it cost a lot than the bike itself.

almost everything he upgrade and left stock is the frame and handlepost. braking are so so, wheelset and gearing are ok for taman spin but cannot go far for performance or endurance. u need to consider it, if u like the bike.
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looks nice u need a very thin cog to enable the mods to be done? u using 12s shimano or sram cog? or other brand?

i got a friend previously fully mod his raleigh classic too. retain the frame. original stock is not solid enough. after full mod is different. handle post he use the fnhon 3d 1 piece.
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post Jul 1 2021, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jul 1 2021, 01:59 PM)
looks nice u need a very thin cog to enable the mods to be done? u using 12s shimano or sram cog? or other brand?

i got a friend previously fully mod his raleigh classic too. retain the frame. original stock is not solid enough. after full mod is different. handle post he use the fnhon 3d 1 piece.
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i dont know what brand is it. but as i search on the net got option brand called minimods that manufactured 3 piece cog for brompton. as the name brompton involved, of coz come with pricey pricetag.

for 3 piece of cog,
the price is rm300+ where u can get 105 11s casette with the same price.

thats why i said before, this project nearly failed bcoz of the cog issue. lucky i had my friend helping me. i ask for the whole retail casette, he said he only kawtim with LBS here to get 3 cog only. i also ask for another set as i got another wheelset, also until now i cannot get it.

so i had no choice. if i got option, i would adopt 12, 15, 17 but currently the only option i had running it is 13, 15 and 19. since the project is a successfull, my hand gone itchy wanna find some cheaper option and solution for my desire cog.

i will share my findings here once i found and tested. since now we got MCO, and it all effect my financial expense, maybe i need to slow down a bit. u know la, when trying and developed something new, process of learning and testing would involved some money with it.

definetly i will share here if i got solution and cheaper solution. dont worry ✌️
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greetings.
i just bought myself my first folding bike. the model is Camp FoldX R. its quite heavy at 13kg. Any sugestion what part to change if i want to shave the weight a bit.
besi belakang tu apa nama? nak cari kat shopee. nak buat retro looking. just ordered mudguard on shopee and replace the padle with quick release model. later also planing to put front bakul and change the seat with leather look like color. buat basikal gi pasar.

initially was intersted with raleigh classic, found out in youtube comment this bike actually copy of dahon boardwalk. end up with camp after sugestion from seller after search around for dahon with dismay. many shop currently dont have available unit.
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not much weight savings you could gain significantly from modding that foldie. just ride it as your leg trainer.
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QUOTE(joker_jr @ Jul 8 2021, 05:47 PM)
greetings.
i just bought myself my first  folding bike. the model is Camp FoldX R. its quite heavy at 13kg. Any sugestion what part to change if i want to shave the weight a bit.
besi belakang tu apa nama? nak cari kat shopee. nak buat retro looking. just ordered mudguard on shopee and replace the padle with quick release model. later also planing to put front bakul and change the seat with leather look like color.  buat basikal gi pasar.

initially was intersted with raleigh classic, found out in youtube comment this bike actually copy of dahon boardwalk. end up with camp after sugestion from seller after search around for dahon with dismay. many shop currently dont have available unit.
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Well, if only you tried to search through the bicyclebuysell website first.

Got at least 2 sellers with brand new 2021 units.

Link here: Dahon Boardwalk
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Hi guys do recommend a folding bike below 1k. Would like to start off slowly budget wise. Looking for a 20 inch
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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Jul 21 2021, 09:10 AM)
Hi guys do recommend a folding bike below 1k. Would like to start off slowly budget wise. Looking for a 20 inch
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