Folding Bicycles V7, Folding bicycle discussion
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 Jun 17 2021, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(matty @ Jun 17 2021, 10:34 AM) Hi guys, need some advise. I saw those foldie below 1k selling in Shopee and Lazada is it any good? Such as TRS, Gomax, Pacific, Mongoose and etc. Any input on those brand? Purpose is for normal riding around taman and maybe in future join some riding kaki to ride on weekends. just pick any one that suits ur budget for taman ride. eventually when u start to join other kaki for weekend rides sooner or later got poison u will upgrade   |
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Jun 17 2021, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jun 17 2021, 05:07 PM) the birdy / brompton are 10k +- range Thanks for the info bro. Cheers.the tern verge are 5-10k range depending on models the fnhon or dahon range from 2k ++ and above depending on ur parts |
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Jun 18 2021, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jun 17 2021, 05:10 PM) just pick any one that suits ur budget for taman ride. eventually when u start to join other kaki for weekend rides sooner or later got poison u will upgrade That is why I need some advise, at least if I bought a budget foldie, I know that foldie will still be able to mod it and last for couple of years.  This post has been edited by matty: Jun 18 2021, 10:01 AM |
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Jun 18 2021, 10:29 AM
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that's why no more budget recommendation for newbie. newbie always thought after they bought the budget bike then can upgrade later…yes, it's"upgradeable" technically, but it's pointless. because you won't want to replace all gooding parts to your budget bike frame anymore. in the end you will just sell it as whole and buy a new bike. matty liked this post
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Jun 18 2021, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(matty @ Jun 18 2021, 09:51 AM) That is why I need some advise, at least if I bought a budget foldie, I know that foldie will still be able to mod it and last for couple of years. kawan, as you have yet to dip your legs into the water, then this is the best advice for you - dont mod. it's not worth it. best is straight up get a good one. one time investment and last you long time of ride. you buy a budget one, some time down the road you either dont feel like riding it any more, or you spend much much more to mod than you would have purchased a good one outright before you started buying one. ppl like me already bought, and no more chance to change another bike within foreseeable time, then modding is the only option to give me a reason of continuing riding it. matty liked this post
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Jun 18 2021, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 18 2021, 10:29 AM) that's why no more budget recommendation for newbie. newbie always thought after they bought the budget bike then can upgrade later…yes, it's"upgradeable" technically, but it's pointless. because you won't want to replace all gooding parts to your budget bike frame anymore. in the end you will just sell it as whole and buy a new bike. QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 18 2021, 10:46 AM) kawan, as you have yet to dip your legs into the water, then this is the best advice for you - dont mod. it's not worth it. Thank you for the advise. best is straight up get a good one. one time investment and last you long time of ride. you buy a budget one, some time down the road you either dont feel like riding it any more, or you spend much much more to mod than you would have purchased a good one outright before you started buying one. ppl like me already bought, and no more chance to change another bike within foreseeable time, then modding is the only option to give me a reason of continuing riding it.  |
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Jun 18 2021, 11:26 AM
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message to next newbie who come in and expect spoonfeeding again:
please read these links in first page, thank you. Beginner's Guide from V3 All post by sifu etigge in V2 All post by sifu etigge in V3 All post by sifu etigge in V4 All post by sifu etigge in V5 |
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Jun 18 2021, 01:26 PM
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for those who coming from road bike, you already well know bike but just want a smaller size foldable one, please kindly consider those 16" 349 wheelset folding bike, for 20" you don't get the portability that you want and you don't get the speed that you want too, so it's neither here or there. and the amount you invested will never get you the same performance which could give you in road bike.
for those who coming from mountain bike, just don't expect the same comfortability and the versatility of all-terrain. the tyre and folding hinge of folding bike really can't withstand those abuse. the best "suv" type of folding bike that "maybe" meet your expectation might be Birdy GT 10SP. What? too expensive? try a look at Rhine R20. for those who really don't know where to start, so blur how to choose a folding bike? just buy 1 that you feel comfortable to your budget, digging into the rabbit hole and start the journey from mistakes. or you may refer to those experienced rider and ask what's the nice budget to start with and which model to get based on your requirements. some tips for considering a folding bike by parts: 1. Frame » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 2. Handlepost/Stem » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 3. Wheelset » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 4. Tyre » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 5. Headset » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 6. Handlebar » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 7. Grip » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 8. Brake Lever » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 9. Brake Mechanism » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 10. Shifting Mechanism (Groupset) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 11. Chainring » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 12. Crank and Bottom Bracket (BB) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 13. Chain » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 14. Seatpost » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 15. Saddle » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 16. Cable Housing and Wire » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 17. Pedal » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 18. Kickstand, Bottle Holder, Fender, Carrier Rack, Other Accessories. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « What else? How to expect newbie know all these? Just get a bike first that suits your comfortable budget then only we talk later. This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 18 2021, 05:51 PM |
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Jun 18 2021, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 18 2021, 01:26 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « What else? How to expect newbie know all these? Just get a bike first that suits your comfortable budget then only we talk later. |
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Jun 18 2021, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 18 2021, 01:26 PM) for those who coming from road bike, you already well know bike but just want a smaller size foldable one, please kindly consider those 16" 349 wheelset folding bike, for 20" you don't get the portability that you want and you don't get the speed that you want too, so it's neither here or there. and the amount you invested will never get you the same performance which could give you in road bike. very useful and detail info. should pin this up indeed. for those who coming from mountain bike, just don't expect the same comfortability and the versatility of all-terrain. the tyre and folding hinge of folding bike really can't withstand those abuse. the best "suv" type of folding bike that "maybe" meet your expectation might be Birdy GT 10SP. What? too expensive? try a look at Rhine R20. for those who really don't know where to start, so blur how to choose a folding bike? just buy 1 that you feel comfortable to your budget, digging into the rabbit hole and start the journey from mistakes. or you may refer to those experienced rider and ask what's the nice budget to start with and which model to get based on your requirements. some tips for considering a folding bike by parts: 1. Frame » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 2. Handlepost/stem » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 3. Wheelset » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 4. Tyre » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 5. Headset » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 6. Handlebar » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 7. Grip » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 8. Brake Lever » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 9. Brake Mechanism » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 10. Shifting Mechanism (Groupset) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 11. Chainring » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 12. Crank and Bottom Bracket (BB) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 13. Chain » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 14. Seatpost » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 15. Saddle » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 16. Cable housing and wire » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 17. Pedal » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 18. Kickstand, botthe holder, fender, carrier rack, other accessories. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « What else? How to expect newbie know all these? Just get a bike first that suits your comfortable budget then only we talk later.  as for all the newbie dont think too much of getting the first bike. eventually if u are really into cycling u will never have 1 bike  so just get 1 within the budget and ride. then start the journey from there...... 2nd bike... 3rd bike.... sell.... buy....upgrades....etc... etc... |
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Jun 18 2021, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jun 18 2021, 01:37 PM) very useful and detail info. should pin this up indeed. this is just merely a menu as for all the newbie dont think too much of getting the first bike. eventually if u are really into cycling u will never have 1 bike so just get 1 within the budget and ride. then start the journey from there...... 2nd bike... 3rd bike.... sell.... buy....upgrades....etc... etc...  too long for the details.  exactly, will never have 1 bike.  |
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Jun 18 2021, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 18 2021, 01:29 PM) i vote to pin this as part of 1st post in new tered no need la…pin liao ppl also won't read.etigge already shared so much knowledge but newcomers just don't willing to spend time to read that. this thread is pretty dead, people prefer to join fb group. there are pros and cons for fb group vs forum discussion, but too bad people prefer to share at fb group to get more attention. many people will just leech the info here but never input their experience. that's not healthy for forum discussion. no sharing means no more updated info. |
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Jun 22 2021, 06:00 PM
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I see alot of shimanos, but got any sram stock bikes?
I prefer the sram shifters. This post has been edited by Liamness: Jun 22 2021, 06:00 PM |
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Jun 23 2021, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 18 2021, 04:33 PM) no need la…pin liao ppl also won't read. agreed. no more sharing experience means no more further discussion and sooner or later forum discussion dead. hahhaetigge already shared so much knowledge but newcomers just don't willing to spend time to read that. this thread is pretty dead, people prefer to join fb group. there are pros and cons for fb group vs forum discussion, but too bad people prefer to share at fb group to get more attention. many people will just leech the info here but never input their experience. that's not healthy for forum discussion. no sharing means no more updated info. QUOTE(Liamness @ Jun 22 2021, 06:00 PM) I see alot of shimanos, but got any sram stock bikes? why u prefer sram? is it becoz of the pulling ratio? or?I prefer the sram shifters. |
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Jun 27 2021, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 18 2021, 04:21 PM) this is just merely a menu hahahha.. im on journey to build my 10th bike one by one collecting parts 🤭😅too long for the details. exactly, will never have 1 bike. hope i can stop it QUOTE(Liamness @ Jun 22 2021, 06:00 PM) I see alot of shimanos, but got any sram stock bikes? last time if im not mistaken got oyama bike with sram x4 groupset. but dont know still exist or not.I prefer the sram shifters. newer bike nowdays, more likely will have ltwoo/sensah or some shimano compatible parts but not shimano. if u can find full shimano parts for folding bike, never doubt to buy it. in your case, if u like sram parts u can build on your own. i love sram shifter bcoz of the ergonomic feel and pull ratio (exact actuation system) between road and mtb are the same. and that is another reason sram dont have like shimano grx groupset coz both road and mtb can be mix and match easily. as an addition, if u wanna setup full sram component, bear in mind sram road parts crankset (must gxp, bb30 cant fit folding bike) and fd (brazed on) quite hard to find either used or new coz malaysia market have tons of shimano parts either new or used. last time i mix sram mtb and road component. sram x5 9s shifter, sram mtb casette, sram x5 rd, shimano fd and sram apex crankset. after collecting part by parts for 5 years (mostly used), now im running full sram road component. This post has been edited by azamunekurone: Jun 27 2021, 10:48 PM |
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Jun 27 2021, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jun 27 2021, 10:44 PM) hahahha.. im on journey to build my 10th bike one by one collecting parts 🤭😅 fuiyoh…this time what frame?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Jun 27 2021, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 27 2021, 10:52 PM) fuiyoh…this time what frame? hahaha.. im built up brompton bike (still dont have frame yet)im a bit frustrated with pikes, just bcoz it was not good. pikes are good bike but it cant fulfill my needs. and few upgraded need heavy modification to make it compatible. if ur running more on stock, more on cosmetic pikes are good enough. the main different between brompton is the rear triangle and parts related to it. since my pikes already complete upgrade, some unused parts i can gather and build another i think with this MCO i need at least 1 year plus to complete it..hahahah |
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Jun 27 2021, 11:01 PM
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oh ya, blanja gambar before i change to low riser M-bar. most of the time i use my bike during MCO for few groceries need.
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Jun 27 2021, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jun 27 2021, 10:58 PM) hahaha.. im built up brompton bike (still dont have frame yet) i saw in china forum, there is 1 more brand called aceoffix, not sure how does it compare with pikes.im a bit frustrated with pikes, just bcoz it was not good. pikes are good bike but it cant fulfill my needs. and few upgraded need heavy modification to make it compatible. if ur running more on stock, more on cosmetic pikes are good enough. the main different between brompton is the rear triangle and parts related to it. since my pikes already complete upgrade, some unused parts i can gather and build another i think with this MCO i need at least 1 year plus to complete it..hahahah  pikes price in china is higher than in malaysia i found their exocet flying fish frame (the middle 1) is interesting.    This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 27 2021, 11:12 PM |
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Jun 27 2021, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 27 2021, 11:08 PM) i saw in china forum, there is 1 more brand called aceoffix, not sure how does it compare with pikes. my friend here in ipoh already owned 2 type of brompton design body. 1 is aceoffix and another is unbranded handmade in indonesia..pikes price in china is higher than in malaysia i found their exocet flying fish frame (the middle 1) is interesting. the indonesia weld are not perfect, but all measurement are 95% brompton. all brompton parts are compatible. riding feel are not the same like aceoffix. more likely feel like pikes. also this frame very hard to find. the aceoffix frame is 98% brompton. the 2% is near the seatpost clamp. the frame is 400g lighter than brompton and feel most likely riding like brompton. as for conclusion after testing both frame, compare to pikes i might go for aceoffix frame. even though its MCO, i will wait more untill my financial are better. thats why i said i might need at least 1 year BOTAK_WAI liked this post
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