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andrewhtf	May 22 2021, 01:01 AM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #1
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(dcs* @ May 22 2021, 12:54 AM) What would you recommend that is bang for buck then? Something that can be upgraded to a certain extent in the future. If you buy a cheap foldie then don't think for part upgrades. It just is not worth it. Sell off or dump the cheapo and buy a full-fledged premium foldie when it comes the time to upgrade.
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andrewhtf	May 22 2021, 05:02 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #2
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(dcs* @ May 22 2021, 12:10 PM) Lol that is what I been asking for, recommendations for an entry-level bike that is bang for buck which has the potential to upgrade in the future. What's your max budget?
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andrewhtf	May 31 2021, 09:41 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ May 31 2021, 04:02 PM) Does folding bike actually go faster? Is it good for exercise or commuting? If I have a budget of about RM3K, which are the best folding bicycles right now. Preferably wheel a bit bigger and can handle slight off road and on road? FnHon is kinda popular lately. for about rm3k u can either get a sora groupset or a tiagra (add abit more) get a 406 wheelset, you'll have more tyre choices to play with
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andrewhtf	Jun 3 2021, 12:30 AM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #4
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	Why not both? I have both RB and foldie. Actually the foldie is my wife's, but she hardly rides it anymore, so I kinda took over riding it. Spent some money changing some parts and now I have 2 bikes to alternate with
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andrewhtf	Jun 4 2021, 02:12 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(nonexno @ Jun 4 2021, 01:52 PM) possible. can i ask for foldie. what groupset you can put on it to climb hills? prefer one brand and range groupset. don't want to mix. not sure about modding groupset but the Altus came stock on the foldie. i only changed the cassette ratio to 11-32 from 11-28 but maintaining 8-speed. but not long after the shifter went bonkers and considering the cassette still new i bought another 8-speed shifter. on hindsight i should have gone with a 9-speed shifter and swap to a 11-32 9 speed cassette, one extra gear so lesser jump between gear shift. The RD can support so it doesnt need to be changed. Current stock crank is a 52/42, i have another 53/39 ready on hand. smaller small crank should allow me to climb easier. but havent have the time or need to get it swapped yet
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andrewhtf	Jun 4 2021, 10:15 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #6
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jun 4 2021, 08:07 PM) Does this mean that I have to customize? I am not pro to change parts so i rather they come out of the box. If that's the case, which would be ideal? Check your pm
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andrewhtf	Jun 4 2021, 10:21 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #7
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(nonexno @ Jun 4 2021, 08:03 PM) Foldie I'm thinking of has 9 speed shifter 1. 11-36T Cassette - no need change I think. 36T should be enough right? 2. 53 crank only - Single track. I'm think of changing to dual track. Heard rb crank won't fit. Have to buy taiwan? Any good brand to recommend and what size? what's the diff 53-39 and 42 46? 3. Wheels suggestions? So I want to go for hill (comfortable in genting sempah. i can do genting sempah quite comfortable on 11-28t 53/39) but straight can average 28 30km/h on cadence 70? SHIFTER(S): Shimano, trigger, 1 x 9 spd REAR DERAILLEUR: Shimano Acera, Shadow RD CRANKSET: Forged 6061-AL, 53T CASSETTE/FREEWHEEL: 11-36T, 9 spd BOTTOM BRACKET: Cartridge, sealed bearings CHAIN: KMC 9 spd FRONT BRAKE: Shimano, hydraulic disc REAR BRAKE: Shimano, hydraulic disc BRAKE LEVERS: Shimano, hydraulic disc BRAKE CABLE & HOUSING: Shimano, hydraulic budget i'm ok up to 7 8k. You have that much of a budget I know of one guy letting go of his newly assembled fnhon with ultegra groupset. Not sure if he sold it off yet or not
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andrewhtf	Jun 11 2021, 10:21 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(omisa @ Jun 11 2021, 09:57 PM) Hi guys, Currently I have a Tern Link B7, which obviously came with only 7 speed. Right now I'm thinking of upgrading to 9 speed. Need some advice regarding these: 1. Which one is better? Change current hub to freehub or change the whole wheelset? 2. Cost wise, new set of wheelset is from 3xx to 450 (in Shopee). Will it be cheaper if only change freehub and re-do the rims? change the wheelset better
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andrewhtf	Jun 18 2021, 10:46 AM Return to original view \| Post #9
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(matty @ Jun 18 2021, 09:51 AM) That is why I need some advise, at least if I bought a budget foldie, I know that foldie will still be able to mod it and last for couple of years. kawan, as you have yet to dip your legs into the water, then this is the best advice for you - dont mod. it's not worth it. best is straight up get a good one. one time investment and last you long time of ride. you buy a budget one, some time down the road you either dont feel like riding it any more, or you spend much much more to mod than you would have purchased a good one outright before you started buying one. ppl like me already bought, and no more chance to change another bike within foreseeable time, then modding is the only option to give me a reason of continuing riding it. matty liked this post
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andrewhtf	Jun 18 2021, 01:29 PM Return to original view \| Post #10
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 18 2021, 01:26 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « for those who coming from road bike, you already well know bike but just want a smaller size foldable one, please kindly consider those 16" 349 wheelset folding bike, for 20" you don't get the portability that you want and you don't get the speed that you want too, so it's neither here or there. and the amount you invested will never get you the same performance which could give you in road bike. for those who coming from mountain bike, just don't expect the same comfortability and the versatility of all-terrain. the tyre and folding hinge of folding bike really can't withstand those abuse. the best "suv" type of folding bike that "maybe" meet your expectation might be Birdy GT 10SP. What? too expensive? try a look at Rhine R20. for those who really don't know where to start, so blur how to choose a folding bike? just buy 1 that you feel comfortable to your budget, digging into the rabbit hole and start the journey from mistakes. or you may refer to those experienced rider and ask what's the nice budget to start with and which model to get based on your requirements. some tips for considering a folding bike by parts: 1. Frame » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « which frame to start with? set your desired wheelsize first then only shortlist the available frame model. 14 inch (254): small folded size and portability is the key here. but i don't suggest newbie starts with this wheelsize. what's the popular frame model here? Dahon K3, Fnhon Retro, Dahon Dove 412, Fnhon Breeze 1401, Fnhon Freedom 1402. For 14 inch, i recommend Dahon Dove 412 and Fnhon Breeze 1401 single speed setup. 3-speed setup better go for Dahon K3, Fnhon Retro, and Fnhon Freedom 1402. 16 inch (305): newbie should start looking from here. you could use those 14 inch frame i mentioned above and mod into 16 inch (305). The wheel hub O.L.D. (Over Locknut Distance) for 14 inch frame normally will be 74mm for front and 85mm for rear, while the wheel hub O.L.D. (Over Locknut Distance) for 16 inch frame normally will be 74mm (rim brake) / 100mm (disc brake) for front and 130mm (choose this because more choice of wheelset) / 135mm for rear. what's the popular frame model here? many choices from Dahon. 16 inch (349): bigger than 16 inch (305), technically it's around 17.8 inch. consider this wheelsize as it's getting popular. i would say this is the best balanced wheel size for folding bike. what's the popular frame model here? plenty of it. Brompton, Element Pikes (or a.k.a Camp Pikes), Fnhon Zephyr with C-Brake frame, Fnhon Gust. 18 inch (355): the only bike you will want to use this wheelsize is Birdy. 20 inch (406): most popular wheel size, but the started to lose portability of folding bike too. normally people will recommend this wheel size for newbie because hardly go wrong. what's the popular frame model here? too much. same wheel hub O.L.D. (Over Locknut Distance) mentioned above. the O.L.D. greatly affect the wheelsize choice and the folded width. 20 inch (451): for speed purpose. newbie don't start from here. after select the wheelsize then there are frame welding quality, frame geometry, frame folding mechanishm, frame and fork material, frame hinge mechanism, brake mount (v-brake, c-brake or disc brake) front derailleur bracket availability, frant or rear rack bracket availability, kick stand bracket availability, seat post compatibility, cable routing, color and paint finishing to look at. 2. Handlepost/stem » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - inner fold or outer fold - locking mechanism (folding and handlebar) - material - welding or 3D post - adjustable or non-adjustable - if non-adjustable, what's the suitable height for you? taller for upright riding position for comfortability, lower for aerodynamic purpose. 3. Wheelset » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - wheel size like mentioned above - disc brake or rim brake hub - wheel hub grade - wheel hub sound - spoke material and quantity used - spoke design and pattern used - rim profile - cassette supported speed 4. Tyre » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - tyre material - tyre size and profile width - tyre thread - tyre sidewall (foldable or beaded) - rolling resistance - puncture resistance - road feel - tube size - tube valve (presta or schrader) - supported air pressure 5. Headset » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - the smoothness of the bearing 6. Handlebar » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - length - height - tube diameter - material - pattern (straight/M/butterfly/dropbar/etc) 7. Grip » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - material - locking mechanism 8. Brake Lever » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - material - spring and feel 9. Brake Mechanism » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - compatibility - v-brake, c-brake, or disc brake (study the pros and cons) - material - spring and feel 10. Shifting Mechanism (Groupset) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - shifter compatibility - front derailleur compatibility (single or double chainring setup) - rear derailleur compatibility - cassette speed (8/9/10/11 speed?) (gear ratio range 11-25T, 11-28T, 11-32T, etc) 11. Chainring » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - single or double chainring setup? - size to match gear ratio - teeth compatibility and optimization (for single or double chainring setup) - material - BCD (Bolt Circle Diameter) compatibility - crank mechanism compatibility (square taper or hollowtech) - chainring nut material and length 12. Crank and Bottom Bracket (BB) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - square taper or hollowtech mechanism - BCD (Bolt Circle Diameter) compatibility - BB size and width (chainline compatibility) - bearing material - bearing seal - crank length - crank design 13. Chain » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - speed compatibility - brand compatibility - material and design - locking link 14. Seatpost » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - material - tube diameter and length - seat mounting and adjustment mechanism 15. Saddle » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - good luck in finding saddle that fit your ass 16. Cable housing and wire » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - lubed cable housing and structure - wire material, coating and braided structure - apply to shifting and brake cable 17. Pedal » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - foldable or non-foldable mechanism - fixed or quick-release mechanism - material and design - bearing material and quantity - effective surface area - cleat platform and compatibility 18. Kickstand, botthe holder, fender, carrier rack, other accessories. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « - for convenience purpose, you might not include it to improve aerodynamic and reduce weight - front light, rear blinker, and bell IS A MUST!!! What else? How to expect newbie know all these? Just get a bike first that suits your comfortable budget then only we talk later. i vote to pin this as part of 1st post in new tered
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andrewhtf	Jul 8 2021, 06:05 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #11
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	not much weight savings you could gain significantly from modding that foldie. just ride it as your leg trainer. joker_jr liked this post
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andrewhtf	Aug 13 2021, 01:34 AM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #12
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(mckevin @ Aug 13 2021, 12:20 AM) Hi, i plan to buy a folding bike for my own leisure ride. Is the TRS Rocher a good buy? My budget is around 2k ish Thank you For rm2k-ish I think a basic-spec fnhon blast is a better deal than a trs rocher IF you intend to ride one long term. If just ride for fun ride Taman in the evening, then no need spend so much lah
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andrewhtf	Aug 19 2021, 04:19 PM Return to original view \| Post #13
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	a 6 cog jump is really wide actually, i think not even MTB would have that much of a jump
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andrewhtf	Sep 23 2021, 10:57 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #14
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Sep 21 2021, 03:36 PM) dahon dove / fnhon breeze can be modified into kid bike This is how it looks like 🤣
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andrewhtf	Sep 25 2021, 02:24 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #15
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(cilimerah @ Sep 25 2021, 02:06 PM) What is the best bike for beginner who wish to go for fun long ride below with budget of 1K? For only rm1k you won't be getting best quality bike, but if you have the legs to power on, then these mid-quality bikes can ride on par with more expensive bikes Do consider foldie from Raleigh or TRS. Java zelo too can be had for about rm900. If you don't mind used, it will get you something cheaper that you can spend a few hundred more on mods and accessories.
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andrewhtf	Sep 26 2021, 01:52 PM Return to original view \| IPv6 \| Post #16
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(cilimerah @ Sep 26 2021, 10:52 AM) Yes I'm considering Java Zelo and Raleigh Classic. But recently found a quite nicely designed bike called crosstec. It's also quite cheap. Has anyone tried it? Is it a good bike? First time hearing crostec but well China made bike are dime a dozen, multiple brands might came out from the same factory sharing the same frame designs just different painting and name and components.
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andrewhtf	Sep 30 2021, 02:59 PM Return to original view \| Post #17
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	Fnhon blast quite okey actually but i cant stomach the rm2+k upwards price price
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andrewhtf	Sep 30 2021, 03:36 PM Return to original view \| Post #18
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Sep 30 2021, 03:23 PM) talking about price and spec, the best spec folding bike under rm2k before pandemic was Java Ira Pro https://shopee.com.my/JAVA-IRA-PRO-~-One-of...4857.2757607133 yes this i agree. damn worth it for just below rm2k. after pnademic jilakak kena goreng until rm3-4k. those who bought pre-pandemic when resell their used ira can profit some more.
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andrewhtf	Sep 30 2021, 03:39 PM Return to original view \| Post #19
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	QUOTE(potachan @ Sep 30 2021, 03:29 PM) Wow the price before and now really difference too much Btw how about Java minivelo cl2? is it a good bike? i think around 2k minivelo is like something in between, neither here nor there. small like foldie but cannot fold. only if you're really interested in it otherwise i know of 2 guys who bought and re-sold it in less than 6 months of riding it.
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andrewhtf	Sep 30 2021, 10:21 PM Return to original view \| Post #20
Regular Senior Member 1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man	Weight I can accept, but aerodynamics on a foldie? Macam asking fwd cars to drift
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