it's a cult. and status recognition

it depends u see it as a commute tool…or piece of industrial art, or a token of conversation in certain social circle.

This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Apr 27 2021, 06:22 PM

entry level few years ago rm500

entry level now rm1k

just go get a xds k3.2 at rm1.5k (if still available)

tukar kmc chain je lo

or u can try ask in fb group if there's any giveaway for unused chain…pretty much ppl upgraded their chain and the old chain abandoned.

tiagra and above groupset with dropbar

click here
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry98863638

want fast choose road bike please.

foldie is not for offroad please.

you might be interested in TRS WIND

use schwalble marathon plus or big apple tyres then

i am not sure about campagnolo…

but of course you can use shimano from tourney to ultegra. foldies mostly using rb parts.

foldies we just dump whatever parts that's working best for the wheel size. does this explain to your question?

chainring u might need to change the whole crankset since foldies normally using 130bcd. 52/39 or 52/42 is common for 20-incher.

cassette wise some of here even using custom 11-18t…but mostly 11-28t, 11-25t, 11-32t, 11-36t depends on your terrain, wheel size, single or double chainrings setup too.

RD if 16-incher must use short-cage.

FD no need worry…plenty of mod parts even if your frame don't have the FD mount.

shifter just need to check the compatibility to your RD.

are you come from rb and need a smaller bike to travel around?

This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 2 2021, 08:55 PM

d9 is using hydraulic disc brake right?

why not just get the tern verge p9 and save all the time and hassle to mod? If you can afford, look at Tern BYB S11, smaller footprint.

if u want road bike feel…better look for Pacific Reach.

but seriously…when you compare 451 with 700c rb, u will feel the size not much compact…better just ride rb. expectation vs reality is cruel. that's why many people bought bigger size folding bike eventually go back to rb. when you are having a folding bike that is not compact enough for portable, and it's not as fast as road bike, then you know what i mean.

my personal ideal size for folding bike:
1. Exocet Flying Fish with 406 wheelset
2. Fnhon Zephyr with 349 wheelset
3. Brompton or Pikes with 349 wheelset
4. Dahon K3 with 305 wheelset mod (3 speed 41T : 9-1317T)
6. Fnhon Breeze with 254 wheelset with schwalbe big apple tyre (single speed 41T : 9T)

This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 2 2021, 10:41 PM

if stick to 451 then go with 1 3/8 profile tyre.

based on your requirements

105 groupset la

50/34T

11-30T

you are worrying too much…just go get a tern and ride.

go find harry pay or pay kok guan…he will settle for you…just pay money will do.

if size is not a problem…then go for rb or mtb.

the gist of fb is you can bring it along with you to go everywhere…even when tyre puncture you can just fold it and take a grab go home.

for speed calculation, you guys can always refer to my post on last thread

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4391857/+3720

riding fb will unlikely match the speed of rb even with same gear inches calculation, it's because of the aerodynamic and the wheel momentum.

if you need average speed above 30kmh u better go for rb.

like our otai kenc said, if anything more than 40kmh, better get a kapcai.

yes. that's why people go for fnhon custom build. around 9-10kg for 20"

for folding bike route…

bangsawan eventually will get a birdy or brompton

performance guy will go with tern and mod it

enthusiast will go with fnhon custom build best bang for buck

mainstream safe bet will be dahon midrange and above



This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 4 2021, 09:14 PM

no spoon feeding.

change the whole wheelset and tyre.

just keep the old tyre with old wheeset and sell to those people who need.

1.50 profile is just nice, stick with it.

i saw u posted in fb group, how about the fnhon retro vs your 412?

any folded size comparison between 2?

i saw ppl said dahon k3 after folded the front and rear wheel macam not 100% side by side…not sure fnhon retro also same