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nonexno
post May 31 2021, 05:24 PM

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question how do i setup a foldie to shift and feel like a roadie?

1. groupset - do they use mountain groupset or roadie groupset? i see some foldie mix.
2. which groupset for wide range. like 11 speed for mountain and road. Is it needed since its 20"?
3. are there 20" tubular?

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post Jun 2 2021, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ May 31 2021, 07:53 PM)
tiagra and above groupset with dropbar

click here
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry98863638
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I'm ok with the flat bar but I want to know how come foldies come with mix groupset of mountain and road stuff?

Also can i change everything to shimano or say campagnolo?
- chainring
- cassette
- RD
- FD
- shifter?
nonexno
post Jun 2 2021, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 2 2021, 08:33 PM)
i am not sure about campagnolo…

but of course you can use shimano from tourney to ultegra. foldies mostly using rb parts.

foldies we just dump whatever parts that's working best for the wheel size. does this explain to your question?

chainring u might need to change the whole crankset since foldies normally using 130bcd. 52/39 or 52/42 is common for 20-incher.

cassette wise some of here even using custom 11-18t…but mostly 11-28t, 11-25t, 11-32t, 11-36t depends on your terrain, wheel size, single or double chainrings setup too.

RD if 16-incher must use short-cage.

FD no need worry…plenty of mod parts even if your frame don't have the FD mount.

shifter just need to check the compatibility to your RD.

are you come from rb and need a smaller bike to travel around?
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ermmm super confusing...

I'm not very gear oriented. i just need something with good road bike feel, reliable and very connected type.

so say i get a tern d9

can i

Chainring - I wouldn't bother i just get the ultegra crankset can? 50-34t

Cassette - ultegra 11-34t?

RD- ultegra

shifter - not sure. rd shift dont go with flat bar. i want flat bar

going from rb to foldie for quick cardio. not much time nowadays. rb i use to bring to some place and cycle for hours. probably won't even consider clips.
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post Jun 2 2021, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 2 2021, 09:45 PM)
d9 is using hydraulic disc brake right?

why not just get the tern verge p9 and save all the time and hassle to mod? If you can afford, look at Tern BYB S11, smaller footprint.

if u want road bike feel…better look for Pacific Reach.

but seriously…when you compare 451 with 700c rb, u will feel the size not much compact…better just ride rb. expectation vs reality is cruel. that's why many people bought bigger size folding bike eventually go back to rb. when you are having a folding bike that is not compact enough for portable, and it's not as fast as road bike, then you know what i mean.

my personal ideal size for folding bike:
1. Exocet Flying Fish with 406 wheelset
2. Fnhon Zephyr with 349 wheelset
3. Brompton or Pikes with 349 wheelset
4. Dahon K3 with 305 wheelset mod (3 speed 41T : 9-1317T)
6. Fnhon Breeze with 254 wheelset with schwalbe big apple tyre (single speed 41T : 9T)
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"but seriously…when you compare 451 with 700c rb, u will feel the size not much compact…better just ride rb. expectation vs reality is cruel. "

good question. thinking about it

1. i need a new bike, my rb parts are not upgradable. i've change riding style from long distance to hill climb and simple cardio
2. foldie other people can use too. sister and dad for example
3. more likely to ride as i can fit in car easily compared to rb. my rb also delicate. tubular high profile are annoying.
4. don't like rb crouch over anymore. got to do alot of yoga stuff.

downside - can't get the rb feel and regret big time

i would stick to 451 rather than 20.

thanks for info.
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post Jun 4 2021, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 3 2021, 12:30 AM)
Why not both?

I have both RB and foldie. Actually the foldie is my wife's, but she hardly rides it anymore, so I kinda took over riding it. Spent some money changing some parts and now I have 2 bikes to alternate with
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possible.

can i ask for foldie. what groupset you can put on it to climb hills? prefer one brand and range groupset. don't want to mix.
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post Jun 4 2021, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 4 2021, 02:12 PM)
not sure about modding groupset but the Altus came stock on the foldie. i only changed the cassette ratio to 11-32 from 11-28 but maintaining 8-speed.  but not long after the shifter went bonkers and considering the cassette still new i bought another 8-speed shifter.

on hindsight i should have gone with a 9-speed shifter and swap to a 11-32 9 speed cassette, one extra gear so lesser jump between gear shift. The RD can support so it doesnt need to be changed.

Current stock crank is a 52/42, i have another 53/39 ready on hand. smaller small crank should allow me to climb easier. but havent have the time or need to get it swapped yet
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 4 2021, 03:49 PM)
based on your requirements

105 groupset la

50/34T

11-30T
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Foldie I'm thinking of has 9 speed shifter

1. 11-36T Cassette - no need change I think. 36T should be enough right?

2. 53 crank only - Single track. I'm think of changing to dual track. Heard rb crank won't fit. Have to buy taiwan? Any good brand to recommend and what size? what's the diff 53-39 and 42 46?

3. Wheels suggestions?

So I want to go for hill (comfortable in genting sempah. i can do genting sempah quite comfortable on 11-28t 53/39) but straight can average 28 30km/h on cadence 70?

SHIFTER(S):
Shimano, trigger, 1 x 9 spd
REAR DERAILLEUR:
Shimano Acera, Shadow RD
CRANKSET:
Forged 6061-AL, 53T
CASSETTE/FREEWHEEL:
11-36T, 9 spd
BOTTOM BRACKET:
Cartridge, sealed bearings
CHAIN:
KMC 9 spd

FRONT BRAKE:
Shimano, hydraulic disc
REAR BRAKE:
Shimano, hydraulic disc
BRAKE LEVERS:
Shimano, hydraulic disc
BRAKE CABLE & HOUSING:
Shimano, hydraulic

budget i'm ok up to 7 8k.

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post Jun 4 2021, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 4 2021, 10:21 PM)
You have that much of a budget I know of one guy letting go of his newly assembled fnhon with ultegra groupset. Not sure if he sold it off yet or not
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yes moto is to get it right the first time. my rb is still solid after 10 years.

im only looking at brand new.
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post Jun 30 2021, 06:58 PM

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anyone has the raleigh classic?

user posted image

It looks solid at the shop but the gear level and brakes etc looks not too strong.

Maybe spend abit more for dahon or tern?

Not looking to cycle long distance. Maybe to basketball court or speedmart (5km). but if buy dahon can go kesas. what you think? will it break under heavy load on hill? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ7Dh8qXlwc this guy seems ok punishing the frame

any idea why not on raleigh website?


 

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