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post Jul 12 2023, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Jul 12 2023, 05:42 PM)
As someone who uses Handbrake and Blender regularly, the e-cores haven't been useless at all.

To get better all core productivity on the AMD side you need to go up to the 7900X/7950X (expensive af). Intel's current overall best bang for buck champion in everything, the 13600KF, obliterates the whole AMD stack in all core productivity workloads other than those two AMD CPUs.

As a gamer, yes, i wish they'd stuff more P-cores, but 8, hell 6 (as seen in the 13600K beating the 12900K in gaming with 2 less P Cores), is still enough for games.
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Its product stagnation, Intel been on 8Pcores since 9th gen so coming to Arrowlake is ady 6 generations this remain the same. Very much like previous 4C/8T era. Ecores useful in certain apps but its functionality is limited. Would you prefer 8Pcore + 10Ecore or 10Pcore + 8Ecore?

Somemore Pcores has HT so thread count is double vs Ecores.

AMD is also guilty to a lesser extend as their trumped 7800X3D has absolutely NO core count improvement over 5800X3D, but at least they have 7900X3D & 7950X3D in higher range.
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post Jul 20 2023, 11:56 AM

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Is Intel generation 11 laptop still worthy for purchase? For the usage of work and light gaming for next few years
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post Jul 20 2023, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(ipunk1026 @ Jul 20 2023, 11:56 AM)
Is Intel generation 11 laptop still worthy for purchase? For the usage of work and light gaming for next few years
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Not sure about other laptop, but for a Dell 14in Latitude, the fans keep spinning up for whenever you are doing any simple task.
That is my experience with it.
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post Jul 20 2023, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Jul 20 2023, 02:58 PM)
Not sure about other laptop, but for a Dell 14in Latitude, the fans keep spinning up for whenever you are doing any simple task.
That is my experience with it.
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Yes, still consider whether to buy dell 3420 latitude because they is discount deal for staff. But will the generation 11 processor laptop obsolete soon?
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post Jul 20 2023, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(ipunk1026 @ Jul 20 2023, 03:15 PM)
Yes, still consider whether to buy dell 3420 latitude because they is discount deal for staff. But will the generation 11 processor laptop obsolete soon?
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Pre12th gen CPU computers might not be such a bad idea after all, especially if you can keep the temps in check;



So far only seen one reviewer has spoken about this very unique but perhaps not too uncommon, problem.
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post Jul 20 2023, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(ipunk1026 @ Jul 20 2023, 03:15 PM)
Yes, still consider whether to buy dell 3420 latitude because they is discount deal for staff. But will the generation 11 processor laptop obsolete soon?
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u re better off with at least a 12th gen inside. Betcha they will have discounted those older 12th gen models too.

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QUOTE(ipunk1026 @ Jul 20 2023, 03:15 PM)
Yes, still consider whether to buy dell 3420 latitude because they is discount deal for staff. But will the generation 11 processor laptop obsolete soon?
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Obsoletion is not such a big issue in my opinion if what you are doing with the laptop is normal daily office work stuff. It is more of the 11 gen processor runs really hot to get those performance.
I would say those 12gen and above should be much better in terms of performance vs the temps and fan noise for the dell latitude.
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post Jul 21 2023, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(ipunk1026 @ Jul 20 2023, 11:56 AM)
Is Intel generation 11 laptop still worthy for purchase? For the usage of work and light gaming for next few years
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if lenovo yes. Dell and HP big NO NO NO
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post Jul 23 2023, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Jul 21 2023, 09:51 AM)
if lenovo yes. Dell and HP big NO NO NO
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beware of lenovo, lenovo might use crap camera which is unbelievable crap in resolution and quality, which is comparable to 1MP sensor sweat.gif

Dell otherwise is good, my company issued Dell tablet has very good camera, usage with stock app already very good.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jul 23 2023, 08:14 PM)
beware of lenovo, lenovo might use crap camera which is unbelievable crap in resolution and quality,  which is comparable to 1MP sensor  sweat.gif

Dell otherwise is good, my company issued Dell tablet has very good camera, usage with stock app already very good.
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You can easily find spare part for lenovo. vvv
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 20 2023, 06:43 PM)
Pre12th gen CPU computers might not be such a bad idea after all, especially if you can keep the temps in check;



So far only seen one reviewer has spoken about this very unique but perhaps not too uncommon, problem.
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Normal la.

When Intel problem = all diam je.
When AMD problem = big hoo haa non stop.

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Intel Arc A580 desktop gaming GPU
https://videocardz.com/newz/unreleased-inte...n-a-leaked-test

intel arc is stable?

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post Aug 11 2023, 08:22 AM

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Intel ‘Downfall’: Severe flaw in billions of CPUs leaks passwords and much more

Both consumer and server processors from Intel show the gap. For consumers, all PCs or laptops with Intel Core processors of the 6th “Skylake” generation up to and including the 11th-gen “Tiger Lake” chips contain the vulnerability.

Intel’s newer 12th-gen and 13th-gen Core processors are not affected.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2025589/dow...t-yourself.html


https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/dev...-cpu-model.html
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Just buy the existing Z790 boards already on the market.
Tomahawk Max and Pro-A gonna get a fat price increase.

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-z790-max-mo...-retail-at-1299
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post Sep 3 2023, 12:36 PM

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13600k beats 7950X3D in Starfield flex.gif

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https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Starfield-Sp...rungen-1428119/


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post Sep 13 2023, 11:17 AM

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Hyper threading ON = worse performance in Starfield.
Both P + E cores = worst

https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/11/23867991...oundry-analysis

Digital Foundry concludes that Starfield “seems optimized for AMD systems, but not so much so for Intel."

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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Jul 12 2023, 05:42 PM)
As someone who uses Handbrake and Blender regularly, the e-cores haven't been useless at all.

To get better all core productivity on the AMD side you need to go up to the 7900X/7950X (expensive af). Intel's current overall best bang for buck champion in everything, the 13600KF, obliterates the whole AMD stack in all core productivity workloads other than those two AMD CPUs.

As a gamer, yes, i wish they'd stuff more P-cores, but 8, hell 6 (as seen in the 13600K beating the 12900K in gaming with 2 less P Cores), is still enough for games.
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Saw this late, but yes!

My Core i5 13600K (6p/4e/20t) is able to match my Ryzen 9 5900X (12c/24t), and the 13600K costs less and has IGP for Intel QSV which is very handy for productivity.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 13 2023, 11:17 AM)
Hyper threading ON = worse performance in Starfield.
Both P + E cores = worst

https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/11/23867991...oundry-analysis

Digital Foundry concludes that Starfield “seems optimized for AMD systems, but not so much so for Intel."

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post Oct 16 2023, 09:50 AM

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So much so about those earlier rumours of price increase.

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-14th-gen-...specs-confirmed

Note B660, Z690 chipsets supports it. Updating bios required.
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post Oct 17 2023, 12:56 PM

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