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OlgaC4
post Aug 19 2022, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Aug 11 2022, 09:00 PM)
https://game.intel.com/story/intel-arc-grap...ks-dx12-vulkan/

Intel® Arc™ A750 Graphics Benchmarked in Nearly 50 DX12 & Vulkan Games


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About the same with 3060ti?
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post Oct 4 2022, 09:44 AM

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Anybody can get EVGA motherboard?
Z690 classified or Z790

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post Oct 4 2022, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Oct 4 2022, 01:42 PM)
besok tutup kedai u wanna use for future
as peyumbat pintu??

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owikh84 say giga mobo quite good for that. ultra durable marketing claim.. memang padu
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Got any motherboard to recommend sifu ?


Gen 4 M.2 slot all over other motherboard brand not like EVGA.
This will tell you the engineer other brand got no brain or cut cost.

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post Oct 5 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Oct 4 2022, 11:52 PM)
err well evga mobo go check their bios update history. u be lucky they support after a year.
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If the bios is perfect why need update every time ?
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post Oct 5 2022, 10:08 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdoB9p3LXVQ

Time to trash Asus.

Recall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKYBMZy1A18


Call bomba (7 months to recall product)

sorry Asus fans

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post Oct 5 2022, 10:43 AM

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Everybody make mistake no doubt. but if i know my product will catch fire. I re-call immediately not 7 moons later.
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post Oct 19 2022, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Oct 18 2022, 10:30 PM)
Asus got brand tax for us.

I ended up with Asus Prime Z690M-Plus D4 (USD189.99) from USA because they didn't bring it here.. And look, they decided to bring Z790M-Plus D4 at RM1119. Cool, with Asus tax again.

189.99 United States Dollar equals 896.18 Malaysian Ringgit
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From Amazon? Got kena tax?
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post Oct 19 2022, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Oct 19 2022, 10:09 AM)
Yeah. SST. Still cheaper.
I already got Strix D4. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Z690M-Plus for more budget CPUs.
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TQ. When the time is right. I will order Evga board.

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post Oct 19 2022, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Oct 19 2022, 12:00 PM)
z790 big diff btw with z690 on cpu voltage controls

atm i am on my tiga belas 5.5 llc 3 vmin 1.128v die sense ac/dc 0.24/1.1 

theres better cache voltage controls , cache vid etc.
even octvb took an upgrade

sorry not enough time posting here . ocn a handful

rtx 4090 fiasco strix will test tommorow
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post Oct 21 2022, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(targon @ Oct 21 2022, 09:05 AM)
A lot of ppl (incl. reviewers) still do not understand how intel cpu behaves. If u let the Cpu consume max power in the bios, then of course the results will be skewed (meaning hot and hungry).

A good summary from Igor labs:

https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-core-i9-13...ig-monolith/12/
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I got 3 family member working as engineer in intel. All of them said not to OC.

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post Oct 21 2022, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Oct 21 2022, 10:46 AM)
That's the problem. Now got efficiency core. It's about efficiency. Not ramp up to the max.
A lot Intel engineer don't know about CPU. We know more about Intel CPU than engineer in Intel. They involve in small part only.
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The chip are pick not all are the same in the same process. Some goes to i3 some good one goes to i9. We want to go to i20 with OC.
Intel is all about stability not power crazy

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post Oct 21 2022, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Oct 21 2022, 10:58 AM)
Just undervolt and overclock. There.shoild be some bandwidth
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post Oct 30 2022, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(cawan @ Oct 30 2022, 09:44 AM)
intel CPU not to OC, ok understand.

but how about PL2, and windows ultimate performance for power option? as long temp manageable?
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This what i understand from them. Your Computer does not need 100% cpu power all the time .Now you OC for 110%
The transition from power 40% to 100% is smooth without OC. IF you OC the transition power to 110% will cause system unstable (no consistency)
That will cause system to crash or other miscalculation.

Transition power is important for system stability. Heat from OC will cause instability since we game 4-6hrs

Stress test cpu power is always 100% it does not show stability from 30% to 100%

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post Oct 30 2022, 05:23 PM

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Nvidia SLI is the worse system stability.
Sometime fast sometime slow.
I sell my SLI GPU after 7 days testing on this stupid system.
2 engines run 1 car. Bodoh

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post Nov 1 2022, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Oct 31 2022, 11:40 PM)
My understanding is that CPUs have evolved to such a state that OCing is no longer a necessity anymore. Unlike the past, the core count of a recent series i7, i9 or later i5 reached to a number that is more than enough for all kinds of applications & games. Ditto with the speed, as even games are more GPU bound than CPU limited nowadays.

To me PL2 is at the peak performance/power defined. From PL2 state, you'll need to up power like 20% just to gain 10% more performance so for me OCing further than that is pointless unless benchmarking, epeen glory, or dont know what or why they did. Plus now with unlimited PL2, a regular 12700 running at full PL2 is nearly as fast as its K sku at stock full PL2. Just take care of cooling and thats it.

As a caveat, sure, OCing will net some performance gains but how much of that is tangible to the user, as in can anyone easily tell the difference between 200FPS and 220FPS kinda situation. But that is more of a GPU OC scenario rather than CPU OC...
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New release game sometimes are CPU bound because they are not optimized properly yet. Eventually after some times new update on the game will optimized the cpu.
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post Dec 8 2022, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Dec 8 2022, 10:19 AM)
Hi guys, I need some help. I recently purchase a new rig with Core i7 13700K (to replace LGA1156).

I did some video converting task and run HWmonitor, found out that CPU temperature hit 90 Degrees. (some core reach 100 occasionally).  I think this is not good for the system please correct me if I'm wrong. The processor load for E core is almost 100% but P core is still like less than 30% load. Is it something normal? ( Sorry for asking as 1156 era does not have those special core term, and kinda newbie on this )

I did some research that undervolting will help to reduce the temperature and maybe improve the overall performance as well. I read the guideline in website, its seems like its not hard to toggle it, just need you guys to share with me, usually the safest voltage undervolt is how much for 13th Gen processor? I know its random, but maybe just a rough idea where I can start to be careful on value.
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Check your fan direction.
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post Dec 8 2022, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Dec 8 2022, 12:02 PM)
is there any other way by reducing temperature without losing so much performance?
I double check the fan and its correct. 3 front fan intake, then 2 cpu fan blowing towards back, and 3 intake fans blow up beneth graphic card.

I can double check the second CPU fans cause its sandwiched between the headsink. but other fans are confirmed placed in correct direction
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Something is wrong some where. Better open and replace the termal and triple check the fan direction.
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post Dec 8 2022, 07:29 PM

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Can you check the middle fan spinning or in the right direction?

Sometimes they can mess up.
Open and reapply the thermal paste.

What program you running?

If still cannot must ask sifu asus to help aka cstkl1

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 8 2022, 07:29 PM)
Thats normal. Cooler not good enough. Cap the power limit to like 180W.
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I concur also. My King of cooler also hitting the beam. Cannot do much OC.

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post Dec 17 2022, 12:35 PM

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Now the slowest thing is the DDR5 Ram.
8000mhz clk 14
Then only we are talking.
DDR 5 mature faster lah.

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