Honda City 7th Generation aka GN2


This post has been edited by MalekChua: Mar 23 2021, 08:34 AM

What the expected price for new honda city?

Waiting for hatchback city GM7...as a GM6 6year+ owner now...

Expecting RS version to be RM99k.
Others variant price should be more or less the same with current City.

Now with Sensing, i think RM109k

Went to honda n ask normal city. They say all out of stock. They are waiting for face-lift just like rs coming by okt or Nov.

The Sensing suite consists of:

Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)
Collision Mitigation Braking System (CMBS)
Forward Collision Warning (FCW)
Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS)
Road Departure Mitigation (RDM)
Lane Departure Warning (LDW)
Auto High-Beam (AHB)

This post has been edited by MalekChua: Sep 25 2020, 05:43 PM

Any info on the non-RS variants? What is the starting price for standard variant?

Looks like India n Pakistan already got their City RS. Not sure it's i-mmd version or not. The spec look like the same. Not sure the price thou..

Viewed the V spec recently, the specs are a bit disappointing (for me). guess honda was trying to push the RS after all

Where u view?

Honda showroom, was invited by the SA, the car was just there for a day (some sort of special preview i guess), my phone was confiscated before going in

Why the V spec disspointing?
What does they doesnt have that RS have?

Perhaps my expectation was too high after seeing the almera and x50 spec, thought that honda will step up it's game on the non-RS variant also to compete with them.

From what I can recall what it doesn't have are
1. No semi-digital instrument cluster (only analog - just like Thailand City SV variant)
2. No EPB, no brake hold
3. No dual tone alloy wheels, only single tone
4. No honda sensing or any form of ADAS (AEB etc)
5. Rear drum brakes (disc on RS)
6. Non adjustable rear headrest

I feel the car was a bit more solid compares to my 2015 honda city (body wise) and the seats are pretty "solid" feel as well

In my opinion, if compare to the previous generation city facelift V spec, there is only little improvement on this upcoming V spec (spec wise)

*forget to mention (there is lane watch camera)

This post has been edited by 4EveRLonE: Oct 5 2020, 11:04 AM

Seems that all the goody being push to RS version.
I am sure the RS version gonna at least adding minimum RM8k from the V spec.
If V spec following the old price, the RS version should be price around RM99,800 and above.

How bout rear air cond vent, remote start etc?

This post has been edited by MalekChua: Oct 5 2020, 11:09 AM

I was expecting at least an semi-digital instrument cluster without honda sensing on the V spec.

But it turns out with only analog dials that instrument cluster really makes the car interior feels much cheaper and dated in my opinion

The only notable things on the V spec are the lane watch camera lol

There is rear air-con vents, leather seats, LED headlamp, LED fog lamps, not sure on the availability of remote start feature (forget to discover that time as I'm too disappointed by the instrument cluster )

Interestingly, the soft touch area on door trim are not black color

This post has been edited by 4EveRLonE: Oct 5 2020, 11:19 AM

I guess if u wan to upgrade then stick with RS version then.

I was told by the SA there are no RS this year, only start from next year (not sure he meant RS allocation was sold out for this year or RS only will start deliver next year)

Ouch.. that sounds bad. Then there will be SST liau next year.
Bad move if they plan to do so.
All will hop to X50

Yes, if it is the case..is a bad move and it puts me on dilemma as well.. sure the price will be much higher after SST kicks in

I've put booking on the city and X50 as well since it's refundable

It makes me harder to decide which car to proceed on..SA says they are expecting possible launching by earliest 15 Oct

Hope the launching come with the RS.
Otherwise no point to launch since they want ppl to buy their top model.
Doesnt make sense they dont produce RS first.

X50 > city

I'm thinking the same as well as the V spec are not so compelling compare to competitors

Think of the bright side, maybe my SA meant RS was sold out for this year allocation hence he say this year not available as I told him I want to get the car this year

Let say launch in mid Oct, when will we get the car? I see singapore luanch 28th August and until now not yet get their first car. Heard they said around Nov/Dec. So long?

SA didn't promise me a specific time frame on when will get the car, say would try to get within this year lol

I asked SA about the production volume on the remaining months as X50 was 4k - 8k max production volume , while almera was 2k for remaining months this year

he told me the production volume for the remaining months this year was about total 20K(all honda model lineup) and honda will focus more on production of the city on production line

Being told by my SA City launching date 13th Oct. But not sure about RS variant.

1.5 comes with new engine. The new City comes with more welding points (increased chasis regidity), 6 layers of paint process. Better NVH. RS only available in 2021.

Thanks for the info. Would u still consider the V spec if the price is same as Almera VLT?

Nope ... My SA make it clear that there is no Rs being build in 2020
and worst thing is i ask if pricelocking applicable he say nope , honda might reveal pricing that u cant even get
then when 2021 come, sst come then honda might compensate with some service voucher ....

change booking to V after that
but still hurts as RS have honda sensing and V is basically a E spec now



this is how the V interior Look.... 8 inch screen, with WHITE insert on dashboard and door handle...............................................

almera interior width is even smaller than myvi.....
not gonna like that

aiks... why Rs only in 2021 leh

Also it's built on the existing platform. This car is not designed from ground up. The rear head rests cannot be adjusted which is bad for passengers. Better think carefully about getting the immd model. Look at the current City and Jazz's hybrid system. They just ditched them together with the gearbox in just one model cycle and came out with the immd system.

The irony is that all 3 variants of the Almera have ADAS=Honda Sensing. Light pressure turbo new engine and designed from ground up. Honda is basically empty in these aspects. Sigh....

Make no sense that they produce lower spec first when launching. Supposely they will wan to make RS first only the rest as RS is the most expensive one. Might be the immd having some problem and cannot launch?

Normal spec already in production line. Rs spec...
My sa said rs might have a smaller boot space to compensate the battery. Well, it's a hybrid after all

Nah , that system is completely diff as the engine act like generator more and only power the car on high speed only

This you miss understand liao
Almera only have Aeb
Honda sensing have a lot more than Aeb
Later I type it out

Thanks

Exactly what I am trying to say here but forgot to mention that the immd comes with 2 motors. Yes, it's still a hybrid!

This post has been edited by BravoZeroTwo: Oct 7 2020, 12:45 PM

Just being confirmed by SA, RS next year confirm 2021.
I dont have problem to wait but the sst exemption!!!
zzzzz

This post has been edited by MalekChua: Oct 7 2020, 01:46 PM

Honda sensing include
Adaptive cruise control
collision mitigation braking system (AEB)
Lane keeping assist
road departure mitigation
lane departure warning (with steering vibration),
auto high-beam function.
forward collision warning with nighttime pedestrian and cyclist detection

thats much more than Almera AEB which utilize radar only and sole function is AEB

Worst is that HONDA cannot lock the price
they could only compensate with some Promotion ...

this is the Normal V spec look

i get the exact volume in L and its more than 100L smaller

What is the estimated price for RS? For other variant, is it same as current gen?

No concreate info on this

I was told it will be 5k ++ more than V which made RS very very tempting but now with
1) no stock in 2020
2) smaller boots space by at least 100L
3) unknown price

i dont think RS is a good choice now

Yes, notice the new DOHC engine. Overall I do feel the car is a bit more "solid" feeling (it could be placebo effect). Waiting to test drive the car to see how the NVH compare to my 2015 GM6 city.

So its true there is no RS in 2020 like my SA said

I test driven the almera, it is miles better than it's predecessor like those car reviewer had said on youtube. I like the almera semi-digital instrument cluster

Spec wise, almera are much compelling to me compare to the city,

but when the moment I sat in the almera, I can feel the typical 3 potter engine vibration when idling, slowing down till standstill on traffic light (it's a very minimal vibration, maybe I'm too sensitive)

when I floor the throttle, the torque comes which is good but right after it shifts up, it need sometime for the boost to come (turbo characteristic) and before the boost come the car feel a little bit sluggish as it behaves like 1 liter NA on that moment (just my opinion, I'm not a professional car guy)

For me, given the price is same for both, I might still consider V spec as much as I hate the analog instrument cluster. my reason as follows
1. I prefer the space of the city, when I saw the upcoming city in metal. It's silhouette makes me feel it is a larger car than the almera it feels more like a B+ segment sedan. and I feel the interior space is spacious than the almera
2. Although City only comes with 1.5NA, but if compares to the almera the tradeoff of losing the turbocharger isn't that much of an difference (my opinion), 145NM (city) vs 152NM(almera), 120ps(city) vs 100ps (almera) although the peak torque might be much earlier on the almera, but the city would not have the typical 3 cylinder vibration (I presume) since its a 4 cylinder
3. I like the LED headlight design than the almera (personal preferences)
4. I like the steering in the city than the almera (flat bottom steering is cool-though)

but having said that, I will still need to test drive the city before I make any conclusion which to get.. who knows I might encounter some unforeseen deal-breaker factor

The question now lingers on my mind is not really between City or Almera , is City or X50


I see. so indeed there is no RS this year. I wonder what's holding honda to release the RS and causing confusion to the potential customers, bad strategy to release on 2021 in my opinion..

I can totally get your frustration as I am so frustrated as well. I agree that it is basically an E spec with addition LED headlamps

if compares to previous model V spec, the only difference is the lane watch camera.....heck they "downgrade" the alloy wheels to single tone now compare to previous gen dual tone

I still can accept honda sensing is absent on the V spec..disappointed with no EPB...but for me the ANALOG DIALS is the elephant in the room..

that dials is the low spec instrument cluster on overseas market...my 2015 city instrument cluster is prettier I think

tested almera too, can feel tiny bit of vibration when just started to move, imagine stuck with traffic and feel this every time u move
as for the power, first step on accelerator not bad, torque instantly pushing but the engine run out of power above 80 ?? it need more throttle input once in higher speed

ya lah the car isnt far from the old V , and yes 2015 city meter is miles better, better design layout is clear, new one the design is small , tiny screen in the middle look like 20 year ago geh honda....

then found out RS have boot smaller by more than 100L

ALL i wanted is V spec with Honda Sensing , why la honda, push RS yet come with tons of downside

Yes the almera feels a little bit runs out of puff once it went above 80...well it is a 1 liter engine after all.. turbocharger was meant to compensate the small displacement to equivalent 1.5 NA

The sound insulation on almera is pretty decent, better than what I expected

Your description was spot on, the pity tiny screen is so so so dated...directly makes the city feels cheaper than its pricing...imagine spending 90k for a car that feels cut spec

I also wanted the honda sensing but too bad the reality slap us hard... the irony they pushing the RS but launching without the RS available for customers to enjoy the SST rebate

Because of the way honda spec the city...it pushes me to consider other maker seriously, leaving me on a difficult situation

actually the best B seg jap car soundproof is Vios but its fail in too many area and a facelift coming this year too

your next choice x50 ?

price projected to be even higher than city
and a very limited production capacity will certainly hamper the buyer looking for sst exemption
from launching date x50 internal memo stated sst exemption will not be applicable for car register post 1 Jan 2021

For me unfortunately i wont go anything lower than the RS. So got to sulk it up and pay the extra for 2021. On the bright side, at least the car is year 2021. Maybe a better resale value.

Will need to test drive the x50 to see how that 3-potter fares...if it's like the almera maybe it's a no go for me too

Yes the bookings are overwhelming for x50 given its limited production capacity, given 50% of booking didn't make through, there is still 10K order for proton to fulfill

I've placed my booking on the city and x50 as well, will see which car available to get within this year first and see what is the pricing for the RS on upcoming launch

If RS pricing is attractive enough, will consider the possibility to get the RS instead next year

RS spec is way more attractive than the V spec (and feels more like a 2020 car), if one can accept the immd and the pricing, should go for RS in my opinion

Just bought GM6 V spec last month... does not regret after seeing the latest GM7 V spec...

edit: typo

This post has been edited by popopi: Oct 8 2020, 10:19 AM

but RS boot is 100L ++ smaller than other variant
even smaller than a proton saga

same thing one , 3 potter will have slight jerk here n there , couple with dual clutch meaning low speed driving will not be as easy

Anyone here who has seen the new car managed to ask Honda SA why the 1.0 turbo engine was not offered in our market ?

This post has been edited by BravoZeroTwo: Oct 8 2020, 04:10 PM

For me, City it is replacing my secondary car.
Since my car now also the boot is empty as always as use for working only.
So yeah, boot doesnt matter to me.

This post has been edited by MalekChua: Oct 8 2020, 05:26 PM

Why need to ask? Turbo is ntg to hype about especially 1.0.
I dun even think bout that turbo.

might be due to
1) service interval
2) service price
3) driving behaviour of comsumer
4) timing belt

and performance is not better than city IMMD

I heard the official launching is next Tuesday

dont forget that there is a new way of calculation for CKD cars as well, suppose to take effect in 2020, but after backlash PH postponed the implementation to 2021. currently, PN gov never said anything on this yet.

so as it stands, will have SST back and new CKD calculation, can expect increase alot more

yes , that what worry me...

stick with V until i see the actual car first

yup, i would argue that because of the 2 layer impending price increase, it might be worth it to just take a car, any car, at any spec as long as its this year. if im not mistaken the 2 layer increase will be quite alot, SST itself also can be a few thousand, then new CKD calculation can also be another few thousand. im not surprised if b segment cars increase by about 5k next year

Was exited until i heard RS will only get in 2021. lol...

IF the V come with honda sensing , i wont not think twice to get V

but too bad honda reserve it for RS and RS cannot get by 2020

5~10k is expected i think

Its definitely an intentional thing by them, I bet they dont want to put honda sensing for V cause they want to reserve it for the face-lift in a few years so that can say got new features to lower spec models haha

This post has been edited by adriankan: Oct 9 2020, 01:31 PM

yo joining in the club, but i also surprised about the V and RS thingy (car not mine)

For me if i wan to upgrade make no sense to take a car with a spec that is 2017. Hence die die also will take car with Sensing. Cause future, all car will have this as standard. Dun want to drive a museum car after 2-3 years.

some V spec photo leak on the internet
same like thailand sv spec interior

So tommorow is the official launch? Like very quite.. No news like that.

very quiet for now

even no news in honda official website .

My SA said afternoon

CMCO pulak aiyoooo

SA invited for test drive on the 17th haiz

my sa say got car in showroom d , can see now

any price??

we just need the pricing... photos are around since few months back

Price will reveal after 3pm today

new city is available to view in showroom today

Not sure how true..

SA showed V spec gambar eeeeeeeeeeee so plain

U don't need to wait for ur SA to see the photos. Its in honda thailand website for few months already .hehehe. its the same

V Spec also not qualified under the tax rebate by our gov?

Got tax rebate. Wapcar got post the difference..

the SA really haprak

told that new car won't get rebate, unless she meant the RS as new car

Unimpresive for all the variant for now. Sorry, not going to happen. Shal wait for RS version

86k for V
sst curently still applicable

ya wei, looks so plain Jane

This post has been edited by persona93: Oct 13 2020, 04:57 PM

This is the most unimpressive launch i ever seen. Hoo Hah with RS version non stop and when launch sorry RS version next year. What the hell??

FYI car size comparison as below :

i feel the old city bigger

what to do , honda malaysia really aiks

what i really wanna know if the NVH is similar or is a noticeable step up as compared to the previous gen!

finally City have this beam

wow got android auto and apple carplay....

What does the beam do? Is it at the boot area?