I'm thinking the same as well as the V spec are not so compelling compare to competitors

Think of the bright side, maybe my SA meant RS was sold out for this year allocation hence he say this year not available as I told him I want to get the car this year

Thanks for the info. Would u still consider the V spec if the price is same as Almera VLT?

1.5 comes with new engine. The new City comes with more welding points (increased chasis regidity), 6 layers of paint process. Better NVH. RS only available in 2021.

Also it's built on the existing platform. This car is not designed from ground up. The rear head rests cannot be adjusted which is bad for passengers. Better think carefully about getting the immd model. Look at the current City and Jazz's hybrid system. They just ditched them together with the gearbox in just one model cycle and came out with the immd system.

The irony is that all 3 variants of the Almera have ADAS=Honda Sensing. Light pressure turbo new engine and designed from ground up. Honda is basically empty in these aspects. Sigh....

Thanks

Just being confirmed by SA, RS next year confirm 2021.
I dont have problem to wait but the sst exemption!!! 
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Normal spec already in production line. Rs spec...
My sa said rs might have a smaller boot space to compensate the battery. Well, it's a hybrid after all

What is the estimated price for RS? For other variant, is it same as current gen?

Yes, notice the new DOHC engine. Overall I do feel the car is a bit more "solid" feeling (it could be placebo effect). Waiting to test drive the car to see how the NVH compare to my 2015 GM6 city.

So its true there is no RS in 2020 like my SA said
I test driven the almera, it is miles better than it's predecessor like those car reviewer had said on youtube. I like the almera semi-digital instrument cluster

Spec wise, almera are much compelling to me compare to the city,

but when the moment I sat in the almera, I can feel the typical 3 potter engine vibration when idling, slowing down till standstill on traffic light (it's a very minimal vibration, maybe I'm too sensitive)

when I floor the throttle, the torque comes which is good but right after it shifts up, it need sometime for the boost to come (turbo characteristic) and before the boost come the car feel a little bit sluggish as it behaves like 1 liter NA on that moment (just my opinion, I'm not a professional car guy)

For me, given the price is same for both, I might still consider V spec as much as I hate the analog instrument cluster. my reason as follows
1. I prefer the space of the city, when I saw the upcoming city in metal. It's silhouette makes me feel it is a larger car than the almera it feels more like a B+ segment sedan. and I feel the interior space is spacious than the almera
2. Although City only comes with 1.5NA, but if compares to the almera the tradeoff of losing the turbocharger isn't that much of an difference (my opinion), 145NM (city) vs 152NM(almera), 120ps(city) vs 100ps (almera) although the peak torque might be much earlier on the almera, but the city would not have the typical 3 cylinder vibration (I presume) since its a 4 cylinder
3. I like the LED headlight design than the almera (personal preferences)
4. I like the steering in the city than the almera (flat bottom steering is cool-though)

but having said that, I will still need to test drive the city before I make any conclusion which to get.. who knows I might encounter some unforeseen deal-breaker factor 

The question now lingers on my mind is not really between City or Almera , is City or X50
I see. so indeed there is no RS this year. I wonder what's holding honda to release the RS and causing confusion to the potential customers, bad strategy to release on 2021 in my opinion..

I can totally get your frustration as I am so frustrated as well. I agree that it is basically an E spec with addition LED headlamps

if compares to previous model V spec, the only difference is the lane watch camera.....heck they "downgrade" the alloy wheels to single tone now compare to previous gen dual tone 

I still can accept honda sensing is absent on the V spec..disappointed with no EPB...but for me the ANALOG DIALS is the elephant in the room.. 

that dials is the low spec instrument cluster on overseas market...my 2015 city instrument cluster is prettier I think

Yes the almera feels a little bit runs out of puff once it went above 80...well it is a 1 liter engine after all.. turbocharger was meant to compensate the small displacement to equivalent 1.5 NA

The sound insulation on almera is pretty decent, better than what I expected

Your description was spot on, the pity tiny screen is so so so dated...directly makes the city feels cheaper than its pricing...imagine spending 90k for a car that feels cut spec 

I also wanted the honda sensing but too bad the reality slap us hard... the irony they pushing the RS but launching without the RS available for customers to enjoy the SST rebate 

Because of the way honda spec the city...it pushes me to consider other maker seriously, leaving me on a difficult situation 

For me unfortunately i wont go anything lower than the RS. So got to sulk it up and pay the extra for 2021. On the bright side, at least the car is year 2021. Maybe a better resale value.

Will need to test drive the x50 to see how that 3-potter fares...if it's like the almera maybe it's a no go for me too

Yes the bookings are overwhelming for x50 given its limited production capacity, given 50% of booking didn't make through, there is still 10K order for proton to fulfill 

I've placed my booking on the city and x50 as well, will see which car available to get within this year first and see what is the pricing for the RS on upcoming launch

If RS pricing is attractive enough, will consider the possibility to get the RS instead next year

Anyone here who has seen the new car managed to ask Honda SA why the 1.0 turbo engine was not offered in our market ?

For me, City it is replacing my secondary car.
Since my car now also the boot is empty as always as use for working only.
So yeah, boot doesnt matter to me.

dont forget that there is a new way of calculation for CKD cars as well, suppose to take effect in 2020, but after backlash PH postponed the implementation to 2021. currently, PN gov never  said anything on this yet.

so as it stands, will have SST back and new CKD calculation, can expect increase alot more

yup, i would argue that because of the 2 layer impending price increase, it might be worth it to just take a car, any car, at any spec as long as its this year. if im not mistaken the 2 layer increase will be quite alot, SST itself also can be a few thousand, then new CKD calculation can also be another few thousand. im not surprised if b segment cars increase by about 5k next year