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niakulah
post Jun 21 2020, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(paiseh91 @ Jun 21 2020, 07:59 PM)
2: Any tips for modding currently owned keyboards? I was inspired from this razer blackwidow mod post on reddit, which spark my interest to mod it. I currently have Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 ver. & Blackwidow X Chroma TE.

Thanks in advance.
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I have quite a bit to weigh in on this....tomorrow, when I'm not tired and dejected.
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post Jun 21 2020, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 21 2020, 11:36 PM)
I have quite a bit to weigh in on this....tomorrow, when I'm not tired and dejected.
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post Jun 22 2020, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 21 2020, 11:31 PM)
Some of the good stuff has arrived. Pretty underwhelming to look at. How do you guys think I should consume this? Pop some in my mouth? Snort it?
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Anyway....I screwed up again. Killed a switch while filming it. I thought I'd learnt my lesson to be patient, but I guess waiting for films to arrive since April really triggered me...

So I got my TX films. Tried it on 3 switches. Nice. Very snug. Totally no housing wobble. Then I noticed that 2 out of 3 were not even clipped in properly. Huh. OK.

So I noted that and proceeded to film all my switches. To compensate I started closing the housings harder, just jamming them down. I was thinking I can do all least half the switches tonight. Then I accidentally jammed down on a housing that was on backwards...and effed up the leaf. Spent almost an hour trying to salvage it. I just couldn't reshape it properly. I could get it to feel right, but the circuit was not closing.

Now I'm 1 switch short...

I do have a bunch of testers. And a bunch of non RGB browns harvested from my previous dead board. Though I kinda like the idea of getting a few box navies to use as Caps/Num/Scroll lock. Yet more waiting if I go down that route and order them....sigh
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we all had such experience on effing our switches one way or another smile.gif (another reason to have few extra spare switches)

now i always make sure the orientations of slider and switch top are correct first, then press all 4 corners to ensure they are all secured properly.

for now you can use the non-rgb brown for like space bar.

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post Jun 22 2020, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 21 2020, 10:55 PM)
1. no idea, Tecware seems more keen in pushing the low-profile TKL
2. it will be a very unpleasant experience to de-solder the switches from the keyboard sad.gif
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1. I guess I'll have to wait for it.
2. It's a lesson that I'm willing to learn.
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post Jun 22 2020, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 22 2020, 12:22 AM)
we all had such experience on effing our switches one way or another smile.gif (another reason to have few extra spare switches)

now i always make sure the orientations of slider and switch top are correct first, then press all 4 corners to ensure they are all secured properly.

for now you can use the non-rgb brown for like space bar.
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If I had bought the switches, I probably would have gotten extras, but these were desoldered from a prebuilt. Yeah, another lesson learned.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Kailh Box Navies for my 3 'locks'. Have an obvious and loud noise so I know if I have accidentally pressed any. Scroll lock is particularly annoying in Excel. I know you're probably thinking, oh that's a >65% problem. Lol.

I do have in my testers a single cherry blue, green and white. They'd all be clicky and I probably wouldn't "feel" anything off despite them being all different switches. But the fact that I "know" they are different will still bug me. Lol

Another alternative would be using Zealios for the locks. Since I have 4 Zealios in different weights in my tester, spring swap 3 of them to the china 67g springs, and use them for the locks. No clicks, but there will be the super obvious bump of the famously tactile Zealios to tell me I'm hitting/have hit a lock key.
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post Jun 22 2020, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 21 2020, 11:46 PM)
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Removed, I saw a totally different emoji on my phone. lol

This post has been edited by niakulah: Jun 22 2020, 09:31 AM
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post Jun 22 2020, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(paiseh91 @ Jun 21 2020, 07:59 PM)
2: Any tips for modding currently owned keyboards? I was inspired from this razer blackwidow mod post on reddit, which spark my interest to mod it. I currently have Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 ver. & Blackwidow X Chroma TE.

Thanks in advance.
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So, let's see what you can do with your board ya.

1. Desolder and lube all switches.
2. While desoldered, you can replace your stabs with some genuine Cherry plate mount stabs if you can find them. So far I only see them in stock form Zeal.
3. Lube stabs. Band aid mod on the plate if loose in plate. Clip if not clipped. Band aid mod on the PCB.
4. Spring swap if you want a heavier/lighter switch.
5. While desoldered, make a foam layer for between the plate and PCB. Very time consuming but highly recommended.
6. Foam layer underneath your PCB. To fill in the void that might be creating some resonance. Did not do much difference for my case but YMMV. Also worth trying coz it's usually easy to do.
7. Change all switches! Might cost a bomb though if you go for the currently "in" switches like Holy Pandas or NK Creams, or anything from Zeal. Lol.
8. Paint or sticker bomb your case.
9. Buy a custom kit. Harvest and move your old switches and keycaps to save cost (assuming you still like them). Oh wait, some Razer models have non standard bottom row so you might have to be wary of that.
10. Change keycaps. This can be super cheap or super expensive. Same warning as no 9 about non standard bottom row.
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post Jun 22 2020, 10:15 AM

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What are your personal favorite switches so far? biggrin.gif

The switches I enjoyed using:
Cherry MX Silent Red
Kailh Box Brown
Zealios V2 65g
Gateron Yellow
zorbyss.
post Jun 22 2020, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(taf89 @ Jun 20 2020, 11:48 AM)
It has rubberised finishing. After 7 years, it became sticky. The only case that i found was YMDK CNC case for filco/old cm87.. quite expensive..
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Rub it with isopropyl alcohol, and you should be able to get the rubberized coating off.
I did that for all 3 of my rapid-i. Planning a repaint in the future when I have the time.
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post Jun 22 2020, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 22 2020, 10:15 AM)
What are your personal favorite switches so far? biggrin.gif

The switches I enjoyed using:
Cherry MX Silent Red
Kailh Box Brown
Zealios V2 65g
Gateron Yellow
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Long term on a daily driver, I've only ever used Cherry brown and Aliaz. Love the browns. Aliaz is nothing special. Felt good on tester only.

Others on my testers that feel good to me, though I will reserve judgement until I actually get to use them on a full board for a few weeks:

Zealios
Hako True (not to be confused with Halo True)
Cherry Blue
Cherry Green
Razer Green

Yes I actually like clickies. I'm just too chicken to use them because of what my coworkers might think. Lol.
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post Jun 22 2020, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Jun 22 2020, 10:54 AM)
Rub it with isopropyl alcohol, and you should be able to get the rubberized coating off.
I did that for all 3 of my rapid-i. Planning a repaint in the future when I have the time.
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If you plan to repaint, might as well sandpaper it no? Since it's recommended to do that before priming anyway.
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post Jun 22 2020, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 22 2020, 09:45 AM)
So, let's see what you can do with your board ya.

5. While desoldered, make a foam layer for between the plate and PCB. Very time consuming but highly recommended.
6. Foam layer underneath your PCB. To fill in the void that might be creating some resonance. Did not do much difference for my case but YMMV. Also worth trying coz it's usually easy to do.
7. Change all switches! Might cost a bomb though if you go for the currently "in" switches like Holy Pandas or NK Creams, or anything from Zeal. Lol.

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Thanks for the tips, I'll keep that in mind. A clarification on 5,6,7:

5 & 6 - Any idea which type of foam layer that suits or I could get any foam layer that's available?
7 - What's the suitable Tactile switches for it?
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post Jun 22 2020, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(paiseh91 @ Jun 22 2020, 01:09 PM)
Thanks for the tips, I'll keep that in mind. A clarification on 5,6,7:

5 & 6 - Any idea which type of foam layer that suits or I could get any foam layer that's available?
7 - What's the suitable Tactile switches for it?
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You can check the previous thread, pages 107-109, for my adventures in foaming.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4538548/+2120

3.5mm EVA would be the holy grail if you could find it. I managed to compress a 4mm to 3.7mm and it worked for me.

Almost any tactile switch will do. As long as it is mechanical and has MX or box style stems. Buy a switch tester if you want to start exploring. There are some pretty huge kits available nowadays. For an extreme example, check out this 130 switch testers:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32894898620...earchweb201603_
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post Jun 22 2020, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 22 2020, 12:43 PM)
If you plan to repaint, might as well sandpaper it no? Since it's recommended to do that before priming anyway.
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Yeah, I already bought sandpaper and spray paint for it just didn't have to the time to do it yet.
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post Jun 22 2020, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Jun 22 2020, 10:54 AM)
Rub it with isopropyl alcohol, and you should be able to get the rubberized coating off.
I did that for all 3 of my rapid-i. Planning a repaint in the future when I have the time.
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will try to do that. thanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 22 2020, 01:32 PM)
You can check the previous thread, pages 107-109, for my adventures in foaming.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4538548/+2120

3.5mm EVA would be the holy grail if you could find it. I managed to compress a 4mm to 3.7mm and it worked for me.

Almost any tactile switch will do. As long as it is mechanical and has MX or box style stems. Buy a switch tester if you want to start exploring. There are some pretty huge kits available nowadays. For an extreme example, check out this 130 switch testers:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32894898620...earchweb201603_
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I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the tips.
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post Jun 23 2020, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 22 2020, 09:28 AM)
If I had bought the switches, I probably would have gotten extras, but these were desoldered from a prebuilt. Yeah, another lesson learned.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Kailh Box Navies for my 3 'locks'. Have an obvious and loud noise so I know if I have accidentally pressed any. Scroll lock is particularly annoying in Excel. I know you're probably thinking, oh that's a >65% problem. Lol.

I do have in my testers a single cherry blue, green and white. They'd all be clicky and I probably wouldn't "feel" anything off despite them being all different switches. But the fact that I "know" they are different will still bug me. Lol

Another alternative would be using Zealios for the locks. Since I have 4 Zealios in different weights in my tester, spring swap 3 of them to the china 67g springs, and use them for the locks. No clicks, but there will be the super obvious bump of the famously tactile Zealios to tell me I'm hitting/have hit a lock key.
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haha yeah all those minor details. you will get used to them in no time smile.gif

as long as they are the same switch type, it should be fine to mix switches in a build. i usually put heavier springs for esc and space bar to have better kick-back feel.
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Anyone tried tecware mechanical keyboard? how good is it? Durability?
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post Jun 23 2020, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Imaizumi @ Jun 23 2020, 09:06 AM)
Anyone tried tecware mechanical keyboard? how good is it? Durability?
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which model are you talking about? in general, let's just say it can be much better, relatively to stock, after tuned.
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post Jun 23 2020, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 16 2020, 09:06 PM)
i still keep those rubber dome gaming boards (steelseries; got rgb some more lol)

it's quite a journey to me. found out a lot of things, yet still discover stuff every now and then hehe
yes. if coupled with lighter springs, you will feel that resistance if you applied sufficient amount of 205g0. it will feel like your switches are having 'relatively heavier' springs.
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I'm glad I didn't get the 205g0, 204g0 is sufficiently 'heavy' for me. Smooth, though. Lightly brushed on my Gat reds.

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