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niakulah
post Dec 29 2021, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Waliuuu @ Dec 29 2021, 03:01 PM)
Hi sifus, I'm currently using a hot swappable 3pin outemu box red Wireless Mech KB. But unfortunately the switches are crap. Can't even last.. From time to time the switches get sticky and unresponsive. Kinda tired of this switch and worried even if buy new to replace also same case. Been looking for alternatives like Gateron's, Kailh's but their pins are thick, couldn't fit into the stock socket in my KB.

Anyone knows if there are any other similar switches that has the same connectors as Outemu's?
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As Krayden mentioned, Bobas fit. All of Gazzew's switches are made by Outemu so they share the same pins.
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post Dec 30 2021, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Dec 29 2021, 04:22 PM)
I think Bobagums or boba u4t fits. Also akko switches. Please wait for someone to confirm.
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Cool, did a quick search and found out someone mentioned that the Akkos do fit on Outemu's socket. Might give it a shot.

QUOTE(niakulah @ Dec 29 2021, 04:37 PM)
As Krayden mentioned, Bobas fit. All of Gazzew's switches are made by Outemu so they share the same pins.
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Thanks for the confirmation! Will look into Gazzew to see which one suits my liking and board thumbsup.gif
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post Dec 30 2021, 12:19 PM

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this is the first formula of a tray-mount build that i like more, compared to other combinations that i have.

i have some unpopular preferences: in short, i want a tray-mount plated build that produces relatively soft, but somewhat stiff, and clean typing feel. (clean means with less vibration when typing) it should not be loud also.

it's always possible to achieve the above with a tray-mount (which is famous of hard spots and stiffness), as long as you choose appropriate parts and mods:

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this is my last build in the year of 2021. i am looking forward to trying out hpe housings (giantv6), and tx stabilizers, in 2022.

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post Jan 1 2022, 09:32 PM

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Hi, recently looking at coiled cable, by checking the price some of it really not cheap. Is that any advantages, switching the original cable to coiled cable? Or coiled cable is only for aesthetic? Any performance or better connectivity by switching to coiled cable?
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post Jan 1 2022, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Rainings @ Jan 1 2022, 09:32 PM)
Hi, recently looking at coiled cable, by checking the price some of it really not cheap. Is that any advantages, switching the original cable to coiled cable? Or coiled cable is only for aesthetic? Any performance or better connectivity by switching to coiled cable?
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Purely aesthetic, in fact in terms of raw performance, traditional straight cables with no extra connectors are better. Long coiled cables with extra connectors might not be able to power boards with lots of RGB LEDs.
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post Jan 2 2022, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Rainings @ Jan 1 2022, 09:32 PM)
Hi, recently looking at coiled cable, by checking the price some of it really not cheap. Is that any advantages, switching the original cable to coiled cable? Or coiled cable is only for aesthetic? Any performance or better connectivity by switching to coiled cable?
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the cheapest maybe from Akko ... they have good aviator cable options if you want to try
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post Jan 3 2022, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Rainings @ Jan 1 2022, 09:32 PM)
Hi, recently looking at coiled cable, by checking the price some of it really not cheap. Is that any advantages, switching the original cable to coiled cable? Or coiled cable is only for aesthetic? Any performance or better connectivity by switching to coiled cable?
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if you have a solder iron and heatgun , why not try making yourself one ?

I made like 10+ coiled cables myself and they only cost me like 15 ish ringgit each . They come out super nice as well. Not to mention how you can sell them . It takes a while to practice and experiment but its definitely worth it . You can get 3 M braided usb c cables super cheap from shopee and the work flawlessly .


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here's some that I've made. Steel straws work very well for coiling. If you dont have a heatgun then an oven would work as well.

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post Jan 3 2022, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(CertifiedHomphobe @ Jan 3 2022, 05:04 PM)
if you have a solder iron and heatgun , why not try making yourself one ?

I made like 10+ coiled cables myself and they only cost me like 15 ish ringgit each . They come out super nice as well. Not to mention how you can sell them . It takes a while to practice and experiment but its definitely worth it . You can get 3 M braided usb c cables super cheap from shopee and the work flawlessly .
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here's some that I've made. Steel straws work very well for coiling. If you dont have a heatgun then an oven would work as well.
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then why do you make and sell them to us for rm30 hahaha whistling.gif
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post Jan 3 2022, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jan 3 2022, 05:07 PM)
then why do you make and sell them to us for rm30 hahaha whistling.gif
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Too lazy , i did a small 'gb' for those cables , the amount of work that goes into making them is a lot , i just make them for myself for now.

There's a reason why people are selling them for a ton . But i really do encourage people getting into making their own coiled cables tongue.gif , its satisfying
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post Jan 3 2022, 05:30 PM

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Only applicable for making for self, if the motivation is fun. Otherwise the time you spent is probably worth more than your profit for selling.
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QUOTE(CertifiedHomphobe @ Jan 3 2022, 05:11 PM)
Too lazy , i did a small 'gb' for those cables , the amount of work that goes into making them is a lot , i just make them for myself for now.

There's a reason why people are selling them for a ton . But i really do encourage people getting into making their own coiled cables  tongue.gif  , its satisfying
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yes the effort makes them becoming more than RM100 ++
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jan 3 2022, 05:30 PM)
Only applicable for making for self, if the motivation is fun. Otherwise the time you spent is probably worth more than your profit for selling.
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You can easily nett a 1000% margin if you're one of the top cable makers. It's all about time and work flow management if you're going to mass produce them. As I said it's more to trial and error, you'll begin to understand how the process goes and how you'll know where to cut time. It can be a legitimate business if youre really serious about it.

Took me half a day just to make one initially. Now I can say that I could make 5 in the same period of time. But for now I'd rather do something else than make cables. I 'mass produced' them for my friends anyways, I charged less than 50 for each.


QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jan 3 2022, 06:11 PM)
yes the effort makes them becoming more than RM100 ++
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Yup, if you know a person who makes high quality custom cables for that much, it's probably worth it. I've seen some Sellers with absolutely abysmal solder work, you pay for quality and attention to detail. Some not even double coiling their cables.

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QUOTE(CertifiedHomphobe @ Jan 3 2022, 06:37 PM)
You can easily nett a 1000% margin if you're one of the top cable makees. It's all about time and work flow management if you're going to mass produce them. As I said it's more to trial and error, you'll begin to understand how the process goes and how you'll know where to cut time. It can be a legitimate business if youre really serious about it.

Took me half a day just to make one initially. Now I can say that I could make 5 in the same period of time. But for now I'd rather do something else than make cables. I 'mass produced' them for my friends anyways, I charged less than 50 for each.
Yup, if you know a person who makes high quality custom cables for that much, it's probably worth it. I've seen some Sellers with absolutely abysmal solder work, you pay for quality and attention to detail. Some even not double coiling their cables.
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what you are charging is worth the payment for your effort ... maybe i will buy from you soon icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 4 2022, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 15 2021, 10:23 AM)
for pcb cleanups, i use IPA 99% mainly.
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i bought a new hand held blower which i use for light cleaning my keyboard now. but after a long while i will dissasemble then do a full clean up. but this makes keeping the mkb clean much simpler for any sort of debris that falls through the keyboard most part smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2022, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 4 2022, 06:27 AM)
i bought a new hand held blower which i use for light cleaning my keyboard now. but after a long while i will dissasemble then do a full clean up. but this makes keeping the mkb clean much simpler for any sort of debris that falls through the keyboard most part  smile.gif
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nice; i guess i should get one too. for now i'm still using a brush haha

yes full cleanups are necessary when time comes. i will also do it when i wanna store full builds in boxes.

the most common cleanup job for me is still washing key caps, and brushing off dusts from bare bones when i replace them.

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post Jan 4 2022, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 4 2022, 12:39 PM)
nice; i guess i should get one too. for now i'm still using a brush haha

yes full cleanups are necessary when time comes. i will also do it when i wanna store full builds in boxes.

the most common cleanup job for me is still washing key caps, and brushing off dusts from bare bones when i replace them.
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i just remove the caps and dump it into a bucket of water with some cleaning fluid and let it soak. then come back and dry it all up using a fan and dry cloth.

if you go to shopee, seems they also have mini usb handheld vacuums (with examples for using on keyboard). but i went for a blower instead, because i also use this to clean out dust from my pc. a blower works better than a vacuum when trying to remove dust from your pc case i find smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2022, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 4 2022, 03:48 PM)
i just remove the caps and dump it into a bucket of water with some cleaning fluid and let it soak. then come back and dry it all up using a fan and dry cloth.

if you go to shopee, seems they also have mini usb handheld vacuums (with examples for using on keyboard). but i went for a blower instead, because i also use this to clean out dust from my pc. a blower works better than a vacuum when trying to remove dust from your pc case i find  smile.gif
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yes, that's good enough. i have an ultra-sonic cleaner so i use that.

thanks for the tip on using blower instead of vacuum pump to clean up a pc haha i think it's time to maintain mine also
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post Jan 9 2022, 12:03 AM

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star75 is a gasket mount 75%, that comes with qmk/via-enabled hot-swap pcb (with flex cut-outs) and daughter board. its top plate has flex cut-outs also. you can solder a knob at the top right. (i.e., the location of the current insert key)

i bought this kit because i wanna try out flexes. however, for now, i make use of all the foams provided, hence it's a no-flex build.
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.. and i think i have enough gasket mount builds already. (60/65/75%)

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post Jan 9 2022, 12:05 AM

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gateron x is a good linear switch. at stock, it's really not bad. (e.g., relatively smooth while having less stem wobbles) while i'm glad that gateron finally decided to catch up (after so many years) in the current market that is filled with cheaper options that perform similarly, it's very hard to shine tbh, espcially with that price tag.

at first glance, it looks just like gateron ks-3, with nylon milky top, and black nylon bottom housing. however, its stem is from gateron pro, and its bottom housing is different (internally; very easy to differentiate from their regular variants)






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post Jan 10 2022, 01:29 AM

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i too have customized my mkb but not to that extent. at most i just customize my keycaps for better ones like signatureplastics doubleshot group buy, a mooglekit (this is a kit i helped give the initial idea. it's purpose is to have the custom keycaps for the missing ones that have a matching color as another set of keycaps from a donor OLD mkb that did not have keycaps that would fit a modern mkb for some of the keycaps. hence why you needed this kit made as a supplement), and some dye sublimated keycaps (these use dyse that are very impervious to wearing out, and gives a different look compared to doubleshots). i also got some led windowed keycaps, because some of the switches had lighting components so the normal keycap wouldn't be nice for those, hence i needed ones that had windows on them which i had to source from classic donor keyboards.

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also it's nice if your mkb supports NKRO, although most people would be ok even if it's just 6KRO. But if you have a NKRO option available, why not.

Then some people have preferences for the led lighting bling, which is fine. But then you usually have to choose between that and doubleshot keycaps. Personally i prefer just quality doubleshot and/or dye sublimated keycaps with good contrast that is durable to usage over long periods of time :}

I've used my mkb for many years already now, and i haven't feel the need to replace any of the switches just yet :} this is also why you get a mkb. Not only is it comfortable to use, but it can last for quite a long time. So the costs justify it in the end. But thats not to say you can't haggle for a good deal. Heck this girl spent RM500 and got a custom mkb, which seems pretty good. although i personally can't live without the numpad. If you do plenty of data entry kind of jobs involving numbers, that numpad is pretty important for speed typing.

one development for the keyboard i'm most interested is the optical light sensors for helping register key actuations. things got even more responsive and accurate with that sort of addition. but that said i don't feel the need to make any new purchase. so hopefully by the time i do need a change, prices will come down sweat.gif



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