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Cavino
post May 27 2024, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(bibirbieber @ May 27 2024, 11:43 AM)
I see. Im not planning for any social media sharing, just want a clear picture when things go wrong only. Thanks a lot for your infos. Will do hardwire things if the car warranty is end.
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Advantage with OBD is you feel something not right, can just pull the OBD plug yourself if you know the the OBD plug is. Plug and play, not like hardwire fuse that can go wrong and have to handle by one who knows about car, wiring and fusebox. The only thing is car manufacturer also use the same plug to diagnose using computer if necessary. Just pull out the OBD plug, once done, plug in back in, no complication.

Usually fuse box mess with wiring, OBD does not...so should not void warranty BUT all car manufacturer will void as long as foreign plug or wring plug in.

So want to get DDPAI now, just get the cig lighter port, no parking mode, Once warranty expire, buy the OBD plug and repull power cord from dashcam direct to OBD. You will get true fire and forget dashcam then.
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post May 27 2024, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 27 2024, 01:16 PM)
Advantage with OBD is you feel something not right, can just pull the OBD plug yourself if you know the the OBD plug is. Plug and play, not like hardwire fuse that can go wrong and have to handle by one who knows about car, wiring and fusebox. The only thing is car manufacturer also use the same plug to diagnose using computer if necessary. Just pull out the OBD plug, once done, plug in back in, no complication.

Usually fuse box mess with wiring, OBD does not...so should not void warranty BUT all car manufacturer will void as long as foreign plug or wring plug in.

So want to get DDPAI now, just get the cig lighter port, no parking mode, Once warranty expire, buy the OBD plug and repull power cord from dashcam direct to OBD. You will get true fire and forget dashcam then.
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nice idea, as of now I will just use the lighter port and use OBD after the warranty expires. Dilemma is still on either 810 or z50. lol
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post May 27 2024, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(bibirbieber @ May 27 2024, 02:26 PM)
nice idea, as of now I will just use the lighter port and use OBD after the warranty expires. Dilemma is still on either 810 or z50. lol
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Actually do you really need or want state of the art cam? If you do, then go straight A810, no need think. It is the latest tech 2023 tech vs Z50 2022. Get the latest tech.

The only reason to got for Z50 is the cheaper pricing and supercapacitor vs li-ion batt that are more susceptible to heat.

But if you are one that once play around abit, then fire and forget until something happen, the cheaper Z50 already has 4K liao. Good image at night too.

A couple of weeks after install this, when my wife drove, she heard a big thud undercarriage and car actually shake, I tot something underneath there broke liao. Habis wang...
So I review back the video to where she say she heard the very loud thud.....found that she ran over a small appx 6cm item (don't know what) on the ground of the main road....then using the rear cam video capture at same time, I save that item from rear cam, bounce and skid up bouncing after the car ran over it. That is to make sure IT is the item that cause it coz Z50 also can record audio...there is a loud thud then...the item bounce at the back.

Save me money taking time and asking mechanic to check undercarriage. That is the first use and only time I really review the video cam since a few months now...

So once install, its really fire and forget...unless you want to use ADAS features in those cams, otherwise, you will just forget about it until something happened. A810 is generally superior to Z50 as it is really newer by a year but Z50 4k image suffice liao if you need the dashcam as a fire and forget recording only.

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post May 27 2024, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 27 2024, 04:53 PM)
Actually do you really need or want state of the art cam? If you do, then go straight A810, no need think. It is the latest tech 2023 tech vs Z50 2022. Get the latest tech.

The only reason to got for Z50 is the cheaper pricing and supercapacitor vs li-ion batt that are more susceptible to heat.

But if you are one that once play around abit, then fire and forget until something happen, the cheaper Z50 already has 4K liao. Good image at night too.

A couple of weeks after install this, when my wife drove, she heard a big thud undercarriage and car actually shake, I tot something underneath there broke liao. Habis wang...
So I review back the video to where she say she heard the very loud thud.....found that she ran over a small appx 6cm item (don't know what) on the ground of the main road....then using the rear cam video capture at same time, I save that item from rear cam, bounce and skid up bouncing after the car ran over it. That is to make sure IT is the item that cause it coz Z50 also can record audio...there is a loud thud then...the item bounce at the back.

Save me money taking time and asking mechanic to check undercarriage. That is the first use and only time I really review the video cam since a few months now...

So once install, its really fire and forget...unless you want to use ADAS features in those cams, otherwise, you will just forget about it until something happened. A810 is generally superior to Z50 as it is really newer by a year but Z50 4k image suffice liao if you need the dashcam as a fire and forget recording only.
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Again thanks a lot for your experience sharing. I think I made decision to go with A810 since it falls below my budget. Hopefully there wont be those battery exploding issue 😅

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post May 28 2024, 09:32 AM

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Do be careful as now they are finding fault of those using OBD with dashcams

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ddpaicommun...91286939061214/
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QUOTE(cherjw @ May 24 2024, 03:20 PM)
Hi sifus. Have done a search but the replies are from 2020 and 2022 and only mentions Sicurez so thought I'd ask for more updated information.

Can anyone recommend a good and not atas price installer for dashcam in PJ please? Recently bought 70Mai A800 and A500 and need to install front and rear cams. Thanks in advance.
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I don’t know of other places but I would still recommend Sicurez. My first experience with them was in 2022 and I just went last week for a new dashcam. Great service, friendly to explain things, and not pushy with the products. You can try calling/whatsapp and ask for the price first.
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post May 29 2024, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ May 28 2024, 09:32 AM)
Do be careful as now they are finding fault of those using OBD with dashcams

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ddpaicommun...91286939061214/
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I won't recommend anyone under warranty and still concern of vehicle warranty to do any OBD or fusekit hardwire anyway unless it is done under the car manufacturer service center under manufacturer warranty.

I am actually also concerned initially on using OBD for my older car's Z50 dashcam. I read most reputable dashcam OBD uses PIN 16 with PIN 4 and 5 for grounding only. They usually don't touch/connect the other pins. PIN 16 to battery should have a fuse. It is not likely to damage ECU. Although many ppl say can damage, is there any record of DDPAI dashcam or any other dashcam that actually blowout the fuse and ECU? I can't find any record on that except for warning that it might but some expert say if the PIN usage are above, it won't. So many conflicting view.

Since mine is an older car with no warranty issue, I tried DDPAI Z50 with its OBD plug. The OBD seems to have some extra safety features on it tho none mention protecting the OBD short. I doubt any will mention that. Heard many tho have used OBD ports without issue, also the accs shop owner installed so many liao...so I just take the plunge. So far so good. Battery power monitored with the OBD plugs to avoid dead battery.

However for my new car, I just take the super expensive manufacturer fuse hardwire but with inferior quality vs 3rd party dashcam for parking mode peace of mind and to maintain warranty. That dashcam have no arrive yet, so I see if they have setting like DDPAI, to use parking mode for collision recording only for minimal power drain. Also see if they have battery power monitoring. I myself not sure if not using OBD plug, can still monitor battery voltage?

Actually I am intending to install DDPAI or 70Mai obd dashcam for my other 2 old cars (got experience crash on on my newer one that comes with dashcam), no need argue who right and wrong, show dashcam video, straight we right), so I suddenly realized the importance of dashcam as insurance for proof.

Now the OBD concern was raised again, I am in doubt again, if want parking mode collision recording (years ago, one car got bang while parking overnight, cialat, don't know which drunk driver did that, that time dashcam not available yet). So should I get the OBD as it has worked well with battery voltage monitoring and auto-disconnect power or should I revert back to fuse hardwire.

After reading up more, for old cars, OBD no problem but I would not risk it for the newer car (even after warranty) until I know for sure the OBD did not use PINS other than PIN16, 4 and 6 (power and grounding).

This post has been edited by Cavino: May 30 2024, 09:42 AM
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salam .
tolong recommend .
349 DDPAI Z40
509 70mai A510 GPS
649 DDPAI Z50 GPS

penting ka GPS ?
hardwire kit kacau warranty Proton ?
recommend yang berbaloi untuk Proton Saga baru .

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post Jun 4 2024, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(zroter @ Jun 2 2024, 07:19 PM)
salam .
tolong recommend .
349 DDPAI Z40
509 70mai A510 GPS
649 DDPAI Z50 GPS

penting ka GPS ?
hardwire kit kacau warranty Proton ?
recommend yang berbaloi untuk Proton Saga baru .
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Semua hardwire (fuse or OBD) kacau warranty. Boleh void electrical warranty.

Jika u nak record sahaja, tak payah GPS. Ada GPS just boleh tambak location dalam recording. Nak guna ADAS, mungkin perlu sebab Z50 saya, jika GPS signal tak dapat, macam tak function je ADAS (lead car notification).

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QUOTE(zroter @ Jun 2 2024, 07:19 PM)
salam .
tolong recommend .
349 DDPAI Z40
509 70mai A510 GPS
649 DDPAI Z50 GPS

penting ka GPS ?
hardwire kit kacau warranty Proton ?
recommend yang berbaloi untuk Proton Saga baru .
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Bagi aku GPS adalah amat penting. Ia memberi maklumat mengenai masa, kelajuan, lokasi dan arah. Data tu boleh senangkan urusan kalau ade kemalangan dan kami bukan pihak yg bersalah. Tapi bagi org yg biasa melebihi had kelajuan, suka lawan arus dan tak kira masa, lagi bagus kalau takde GPS whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 27 2024, 09:19 AM)
I also never install one especially when all my cars are over 10 to 18 years old.
my 39yr old car has a dashcam tongue.gif

better to have a dashcam, but dont need. rather need a dashcam, but dont have.
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Hi. I installed a A500s70mai, that guy used 2 sd card, it says cannot read card damaged. I used mine, also says cannot read card damaged. Then he tried with another, can already.

May I know why is it so selective? Is it normal? Can I have a recommendation on which sd card should I purchase.

I chat with shopee 70mai official, told me to try format on comp first.

user posted image

Nvm can d. Just formated with comp

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post Jun 16 2024, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 29 2024, 10:27 AM)
I won't recommend anyone under warranty and still concern of vehicle warranty to do any OBD or fusekit hardwire anyway unless it is done under the car manufacturer service center under manufacturer warranty.

I am actually also concerned initially on using OBD for my older car's Z50 dashcam. I read most reputable dashcam OBD uses PIN 16 with PIN 4 and 5 for grounding only. They usually don't touch/connect the other pins. PIN 16 to battery should have a fuse. It is not likely to damage ECU. Although many ppl say can damage, is there any record of DDPAI dashcam or any other dashcam that actually blowout the fuse and ECU? I can't find any record on that except for warning that it might but some expert say if the PIN usage are above, it won't. So many conflicting view.

Since mine is an older car with no warranty issue, I tried DDPAI Z50 with its OBD plug. The OBD seems to have some extra safety features on it tho none mention protecting the OBD short. I doubt any will mention that. Heard many tho have used OBD ports without issue, also the accs shop owner installed so many liao...so I just take the plunge. So far so good. Battery power monitored with the OBD plugs to avoid dead battery.

However for my new car, I just take the super expensive manufacturer fuse hardwire but with inferior quality vs 3rd party dashcam for parking mode peace of mind and to maintain warranty. That dashcam have no arrive yet, so I see if they have setting like DDPAI, to use parking mode for collision recording only for minimal power drain. Also see if they have battery power monitoring. I myself not sure if not using OBD plug, can still monitor battery voltage?

Actually I am intending to install DDPAI or 70Mai obd dashcam for my other 2 old cars (got experience crash on on my newer one that comes with dashcam), no need argue who right and wrong, show dashcam video, straight we right), so I suddenly realized the importance of dashcam as insurance for proof.

Now the OBD concern was raised again, I am in doubt again, if want parking mode collision recording (years ago, one car got bang while parking overnight, cialat, don't know which drunk driver did that, that time dashcam not available yet). So should I get the OBD as it has worked well with battery voltage monitoring and auto-disconnect power or should I revert back to fuse hardwire.

After reading up more, for old cars, OBD no problem but I would not risk it for the newer car (even after warranty) until I know for sure the OBD did not use PINS other than PIN16, 4 and 6 (power and grounding).
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I agreed. I don't think messing with fusebox is advisable when car still under warranty. From most of the service centre I knew, they will not recommend using fusebox power for dash cam as they claimed if there is any issue, there is a high chances the principal (in this case the car brand itself) will reject the claim.

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jun 4 2024, 11:46 AM)
Semua hardwire (fuse or OBD) kacau warranty. Boleh void electrical warranty.

Jika u nak record sahaja, tak payah GPS. Ada GPS just boleh tambak location dalam recording. Nak guna ADAS, mungkin perlu sebab Z50 saya, jika GPS signal tak dapat, macam tak function je ADAS (lead car notification).
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For new car with warranty, if I just want a dash cam that record while driving and auto off when engine stop or in parking..the safest choice is connect to the cigaratte port?
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QUOTE(neekun @ Jun 16 2024, 09:38 AM)
For new car with warranty, if I just want a dash cam that record while driving and auto off when engine stop or in parking..the safest choice is connect to the cigaratte port?
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I have no experience with cars less 10yrs of age laugh.gif

but in previous posts, seem some make/model has active acc/cig port even after engine is off, thus perform your own testing to confirm.

my 40yr old car using cig port.
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post Jun 18 2024, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(Chrix @ Jun 17 2024, 05:40 PM)
I have no experience with cars less 10yrs of age  laugh.gif

but in previous posts, seem some make/model has active acc/cig port even after engine is off, thus perform your own testing to confirm.

my 40yr old car using cig port.
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Mine is 18 years old City. Used the OBD, worked perfectly so far. At least DDPAI Z50 has setting to stop power if falls below 12.4V.

Don't want Cig port plug-in tho coz I used the ports liao for 3rd party LCD screen for Android Auto when needed (stick it up when needed, removed most of time). Much cheaper option to than buy built-in media with car specific casing (not so convenient tho, just a stop gap measure, see how first). Also used the cig ports for tyre air pump periodically, never go to petrol station to pump anymore, too many cars for family to take care of...

My new City uses the bloody cheapo Honda Dashcam (cheapo quality but super premium pricing, no choice, maintain warranty), stated will stop power if drop below 11.8 or is it 11.6...but I think battery might risk cannot start liao by then coz most car need around 12V to have a guaranteed safe start.


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QUOTE(neekun @ Jun 16 2024, 09:38 AM)
For new car with warranty, if I just want a dash cam that record while driving and auto off when engine stop or in parking..the safest choice is connect to the cigaratte port?
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The moment you go cig port, likely no parking mode. In order to keep under warranty, with 3rd party dashcam, the ONLY choice is cigarette port. Any fuse or obd ports connection, manufacturer will likely void your warranty. H & T are particularly strict nowadays coz their quality dropped like shit and so many warranty claims liao, so they will void warranty when they have the chance (not like decades ago when their quality are top notches, not that many QC caused warranty, sometimes, they close one eye if minor claim, now void all related warranties without questions). Not sure of other brands.
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jun 18 2024, 11:06 AM)
The moment you go cig port, likely no parking mode. In order to keep under warranty, with 3rd party dashcam, the ONLY choice is cigarette port. Any fuse or obd ports connection, manufacturer will likely void your warranty. H & T are particularly strict nowadays coz their quality dropped like shit and so many warranty claims liao, so they will void warranty when they have the chance (not like decades ago when their quality are top notches, not that many QC caused warranty, sometimes, they close one eye if minor claim, now void all related warranties without questions). Not sure of other brands.
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in this case, does it mean that for new cars especially those expensive brands that are still under warranty, not recommended to take 3rd party dashcam? but need to pay crazy price to the car dealers ? cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jun 18 2024, 11:06 AM)
The moment you go cig port, likely no parking mode. In order to keep under warranty, with 3rd party dashcam, the ONLY choice is cigarette port. Any fuse or obd ports connection, manufacturer will likely void your warranty. H & T are particularly strict nowadays coz their quality dropped like shit and so many warranty claims liao, so they will void warranty when they have the chance (not like decades ago when their quality are top notches, not that many QC caused warranty, sometimes, they close one eye if minor claim, now void all related warranties without questions). Not sure of other brands.
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This is a very strong claim, what is your basis? In fact fuse/OBD connection are reversible, can be removed and replaced with no indication it was ever used (if need to claim warranty). Please provide example/evidence where H or T deny warranty claim due to 3rd party dashcam which did not cut wire?

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