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SUSxander83
post May 27 2021, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ May 27 2021, 08:13 PM)
Ok.... so you're saying that there's a maximum possible shortfall of 1c for each dividend event. On average there's 2 every month, so in a year that totals 24c or RM1.

To put that into perspective, you possibly fall short of one piece of keropok lekor. A year.
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1stly not all ETFs are dividends paid in SA and some of them are semi annual subject ETF makers discretion hence based on your prerspective it is only a quarter of your favourite keropok lekor rclxms.gif

You can find dividend history easily in US ETF just like the example for KWEB

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/fund...ividend-history

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post May 27 2021, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ May 27 2021, 06:37 PM)
The buy price order are determined by the weightage of your portfolio because the markets are fluid hence if any additional cash deposits it will buy the most under weighted equities then only follows back by balancing based on asset allocation %

Fractional dividends are given based on unit holdings because if the unit holdings doesn’t meet the requirements of minimum units hence dividends will not be given out because fractional dividends are given to those with minimum requirements of unit holdings with at least 0.1 units

If you look at it those accounts less than USD500 chances are because the units are fractional dividends will not be given because it doesn’t meet the required minimum of usd0.01 and for example IVV at USD420 with 10% allocation in 30% SRI the unit holdings 0.1190 units with dividends of usd1 per unit the dividends are only is usd0.001190 hence doesn’t meet the required the ETFs to distribute back the dividends back to the holder
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SA USD500, 30% SRI, 10% IVV at USD420
unit = 50/420 = 0.1190 which is more than 0.1 unit why are you saying it doesn't meet the min requirement?

also if $1 dividend per IVV unit, I should get 0.1190 unit x $1 = $0.1190
how do you get the usd0.001190?
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post May 28 2021, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(Kadaj @ May 27 2021, 09:43 PM)
SA USD500, 30% SRI, 10% IVV at USD420
unit = 50/420 = 0.1190 which is more than 0.1 unit why are you saying it doesn't meet the min requirement?

also if $1 dividend per IVV unit, I should get 0.1190 unit x $1 = $0.1190
how do you get the usd0.001190?
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0.1190 units based on dividends for fractional you don’t get full dividends by units but fractional dividends as per ETF makers hence you are only getting 0.23% dividends which is only 0.0002737 in additional units with the value of USD0.001190

It is however subject to whether SA will payout because they only will get full accumulated amounts of dividends which they will distribute unlike UT where by there is a mechanism to distribute the units itself while SA will have to figure it out on whether to pay based unit or not because the value is unless it reaches a minimum of USD0.01 then you will receive the dividends reflected in additional units being reinvested or park into the cash allocation
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post May 28 2021, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ May 28 2021, 03:21 AM)
0.1190 units based on dividends for fractional you don’t get full dividends by units but fractional dividends as per ETF makers hence you are only getting 0.23% dividends which is only 0.0002737 in additional units with the value of USD0.001190

It is however subject to whether SA will payout because they only will get full accumulated amounts of dividends which they will distribute unlike UT where by there is a mechanism to distribute the units itself while SA will have to figure it out on whether to pay based unit or not because the value is unless it reaches a minimum of USD0.01 then you will receive the dividends reflected in additional units being reinvested or park into the cash allocation
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Sorry but I still don't get it and how do you pop up 0.23% and 0.0002737 in magic this time?
Can you show me the full calculation formula please?

I thought I should get 0.1190 unit x $1 = $0.1190? hmm.gif
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post May 28 2021, 10:23 AM

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if i introduce my spouse to SA via my referral code, and my spouse only put money into stashaway simple, does that mean i still get the 6 months free management charge from SA?
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post May 28 2021, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 28 2021, 10:23 AM)
if i introduce my spouse to SA via my referral code, and my spouse only put money into stashaway simple, does that mean i still get the 6 months free management charge from SA?
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My guess n bet is "can" still get it
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post May 28 2021, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 28 2021, 10:23 AM)
if i introduce my spouse to SA via my referral code, and my spouse only put money into stashaway simple, does that mean i still get the 6 months free management charge from SA?
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Isn't Stashaway Simple free? No management fee?
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post May 28 2021, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(zeronuker @ May 28 2021, 10:46 AM)
Isn't Stashaway Simple free? No management fee?
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A refer B. B put money in simple.

A get another 6 months free or not?
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post May 28 2021, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 28 2021, 11:37 AM)
A refer B. B put money in simple.

A get another 6 months free or not?
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IIRC I have seen this question posed to SA in some FAQ, the answer is no.
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post May 28 2021, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 28 2021, 11:37 AM)
A refer B. B put money in simple.

A get another 6 months free or not?
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Yes. I referred to my wife. She put money in simple only... and I am still eligible for the free 6 months
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post May 28 2021, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(4eyeco @ May 28 2021, 12:51 PM)
Yes. I referred to my wife. She put money in simple only... and I am still eligible for the free 6 months
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sorry....salah org i quote doh.gif

QUOTE(adele123 @ May 28 2021, 11:37 AM)
A refer B. B put money in simple.

A get another 6 months free or not?
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give ur wife 100 n ask she open 36% portfolio in her acc.
write "my hubby money"......ur case settle cool2.gif

tak payah susah2 tanya.....hope it work hmm.gif

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post May 28 2021, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 28 2021, 11:37 AM)
A refer B. B put money in simple.

A get another 6 months free or not?
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Again, I gotta ask; Isn't Stashaway Simple free? If so, then why bother asking if get free 6 months or not?

If Stashaway Simple not free, then I gotta read about it again. I understand its free.

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post May 28 2021, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(zeronuker @ May 28 2021, 01:01 PM)
Again, I gotta ask; Isn't Stashaway Simple free? If so, then why bother asking if get free 6 months or not?

If Stashaway Simple not free, then I gotta read about it again. I understand its free.

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maybe this extended clarification helps

A does not put money in Simple....A already put money in (example) 36% SRI

A refer B. B put money in simple.

A get another 6 months free or not?


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post May 28 2021, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(zeronuker @ May 28 2021, 01:01 PM)
Again, I gotta ask; Isn't Stashaway Simple free? If so, then why bother asking if get free 6 months or not?

If Stashaway Simple not free, then I gotta read about it again. I understand its free.

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Because your focus is wrong. Original poster asking if he gets management fee waiver if his referral only use simple, not if his referral gets charged for using simple.
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post May 28 2021, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 28 2021, 11:37 AM)
A refer B. B put money in simple.

A get another 6 months free or not?
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ May 28 2021, 11:44 AM)
IIRC I have seen this question posed to SA in some FAQ, the answer is no.
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The 6 months free will take effect, it's literally described like this in the page for Refer A Friend code:

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Basically, you both get RM30k in investment portfolios managed for free for 6 months regardless whether your referral deposit in Simple or regular portfolio, but if deposit in Simple only then the 6 months is "wasted" because there's no fees, they won't "carry forward" the 6 months when a few months after referral code is activated you and/or friend finally decide to open regular investment portfolio.

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post May 28 2021, 01:18 PM

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Ohhhhhh.... Ok, Now I understand. Sorry for my misinterpretation.

After understanding, I dont have the answer. Sorry sad.gif
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post May 28 2021, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 28 2021, 01:17 PM)
The 6 months free will take effect, it's literally described like this in the page for Refer A Friend code:

user posted image

Basically, you both get RM30k in investment portfolios managed for free for 6 months regardless whether your referral deposit in Simple or regular portfolio, but if deposit in Simple only then the 6 months is "wasted" because there's no fees, they won't "carry forward" the 6 months when a few months after referral code is activated you and/or friend finally decide to open regular investment portfolio.
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thanks. my bad. i was looking at websites for FAQ or something. should look at the most obvious place, the part where i actually send out the referral.
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post May 28 2021, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kadaj @ May 28 2021, 10:00 AM)
Sorry but I still don't get it and how do you pop up 0.23% and 0.0002737 in magic this time?
Can you show me the full calculation formula please?

I thought I should get 0.1190 unit x $1 = $0.1190?  hmm.gif
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1/420*100% = 0.23%

0.1190*0.23% gives you the magical unit of 0.0002737

The dividends are giving out on monetary value but reinvested back into units from your holdings value hence you don’t get the full value of dividends unless you hold an actual unit of ETFs itself
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post May 28 2021, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 28 2021, 02:07 PM)
thanks. my bad. i was looking at websites for FAQ or something. should look at the most obvious place, the part where i actually send out the referral.
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Simple is a free regardless because it is MMF but in terms of liquidity and returns you better off going with Versa and GO+ using the bonus earnings that will expired on 10 Aug 2021
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post May 28 2021, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ May 28 2021, 07:29 PM)
1/420*100% = 0.23%

0.1190*0.23% gives you the magical unit of 0.0002737

The dividends are giving out on monetary value but reinvested back into units from your holdings value hence you don’t get the full value of dividends unless you hold an actual unit of ETFs itself
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Alright.
0.0002737 additional dividend unit x 420 IVV = $0.114954
How do you get the USD0.001190?

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