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post Feb 24 2021, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(cr7jyej @ Feb 23 2021, 10:47 PM)
Finally seeing KWEB in Buy Order after a month without it
Looks like both KWEB and XLY will be super red tonight

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hey....just a quick check, this is not in in relation to stashaway app right? I tot initially the app allows to see all such transactions haha
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post Feb 24 2021, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Feb 23 2021, 11:22 PM)
Set a weekly/monthly amount that you are comfortable putting (without worrying if the price dips a bit and there is a unrealised loss) and hold for at least 1-3 years and you're set.

SAMY is supposed to be deposit and forget it.

We here just itchy follow the stock price daily cuz nothing else to do LOL
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Lol, good one
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post Feb 24 2021, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(amateurinvestor @ Feb 24 2021, 01:41 AM)
hey....just a quick check, this is not in in relation to stashaway app right? I tot initially the app allows to see all such transactions haha
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It is SA buy order screen on 30% risk assessment
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post Feb 24 2021, 05:49 AM

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Yes this is the buy order page from the transaction page

QUOTE(amateurinvestor @ Feb 24 2021, 01:41 AM)
hey....just a quick check, this is not in in relation to stashaway app right? I tot initially the app allows to see all such transactions haha
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I'm on 22%, not 30% haha

QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 24 2021, 02:16 AM)
It is SA buy order screen on 30% risk assessment
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post Feb 24 2021, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 23 2021, 04:36 PM)
Please remember that stashaway is design for buy and hold more than 3 years. It is not designed for trading. So, if you want to try the trading stuff, I suggest you keep a record of whether actually you will make more by just buy and hold.

Remember the game of buying and selling / timing the market vs buy and hold?
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Currently Malaysia had no capital gain tax. If actively trading, the gain may subject to income tax hmm.gif

For me opinion, better buy and hold 3 to 5 years. Those active trader hopefully do proper record and report the income into their personal tax, nowadays income tax penalty not cheap. brows.gif

This post has been edited by tsutsugami86: Feb 24 2021, 09:45 AM
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post Feb 24 2021, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Feb 24 2021, 09:29 AM)
Currently Malaysia had no capital gain tax. If actively trading, the gain may subject to income tax  hmm.gif

For me opinion, better buy and hold 3 to 5 years. Those active trader hopefully do proper record and report the income into their personal tax, nowadays income tax penalty not cheap.  brows.gif
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Why is the income from active trade subject to income tax? Is that not capital gains?
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post Feb 24 2021, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 24 2021, 09:50 AM)
Why is the income from active trade subject to income tax? Is that not capital gains?
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try this recent postings .....hope it helps

Full Time Stock Trader - Tax info, Advise from a tax lawyer friend
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5102221&hl=

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post Feb 24 2021, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(buffa @ Feb 23 2021, 11:17 PM)
Hi, guys, I am new to investment, SA too. I yet to invest SA.

From what i know, current market a bit down, i should just wait till it start recover and start to put in money. Gonna do DCA follow on. Is my thinking correct? Or I should just start now?
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the best time to start is always 20 years ago.

the next best time to start is now.

Just keep calm and DCA over the next few years.
Setup a plan and stick by it, you will thank yourself in years to come.
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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Feb 23 2021, 11:22 PM)
Set a weekly/monthly amount that you are comfortable putting (without worrying if the price dips a bit and there is a unrealised loss) and hold for at least 1-3 years and you're set.

SAMY is supposed to be deposit and forget it.

We here just itchy follow the stock price daily cuz nothing else to do LOL
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cos it is so convenient and accessible with just a fingerprint to see your holdings and the performance
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post Feb 24 2021, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Feb 23 2021, 10:57 PM)
Popping by this to see how are things here...saw many posts about sales tonight...umm, what's happening specifically?
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because the US market is at all time high now.

so now the market is heading for a correction, which leads to some drop and hence the sales.

so many here say is a good time to invest more, well, this is not wrong at all.

the idea of having a DCA plan is also partly to ignore all the noises from the market, just keep calm and keep DCA-ing and stick with your plan.

forget about the investment that you have put in, visit after 3 years, you should see your money grow.

but the problem is the convenience we're getting now, just a fingertip and we can access to it.
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post Feb 24 2021, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 24 2021, 10:09 AM)
the best time to start is always 20 years ago.

the next best time to start is now.

Just keep calm and DCA over the next few years.
Setup a plan and stick by it, you will thank yourself in years to come.
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Thanks for the advise smile.gif

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post Feb 24 2021, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 24 2021, 09:50 AM)
Why is the income from active trade subject to income tax? Is that not capital gains?
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(stuff below is something I've gleaned from recent article about cryto trading, but it might be relevant here and to those who engage in day trading)

Section 3 of Income Tax Act 1967 says that income from digital platforms like online trading can be taxed. To determine this tax authorities will look to see if the investor meets the criteria of "Badges of Trade" test. Meet too many and your gains from investments might be considered taxable income

Profit-seeking motive: Was the activity carried out with an intent to profit?

Number of transactions: repeated and systematic transactions of buying+selling that can amount to trading activity

Nature of Asset: type, quantity of assets etc.

Existence of similar trading transactions or interests: refers to similarities between your expertise and your occupation with the activity of trading

Changes to the asset: changes to price etc. that makes it marketable?

The way the sale was carried out: is the sale conducted in a way that befits a trading organisation?

Source of finance: Assets purchased using debt/loaned money gets a red flag because you're required to pay off the loan, so profit becomes a necessity (profit seeking motive).

Interval of time between purchase and sale: The longer time between your buying and your selling, more likely it'll be seen as investment (not taxable) instead of trading (taxable)

Method of acquisition: Gifts and inheritance aren't considered trade.
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post Feb 24 2021, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 24 2021, 10:44 AM)
(stuff below is something I've gleaned from recent article about cryto trading, but it might be relevant here and to those who engage in day trading)

Section 3 of Income Tax Act 1967 says that income from digital platforms like online trading can be taxed. To determine this tax authorities will look to see if the investor meets the criteria of "Badges of Trade" test. Meet too many and your gains from investments might be considered taxable income

Profit-seeking motive: Was the activity carried out with an intent to profit?

Number of transactions: repeated and systematic transactions of buying+selling that can amount to trading activity

Nature of Asset: type, quantity of assets etc.

Existence of similar trading transactions or interests: refers to similarities between your expertise and your occupation with the activity of trading

Changes to the asset: changes to price etc. that makes it marketable?

The way the sale was carried out: is the sale conducted in a way that befits a trading organisation?

Source of finance: Assets purchased using debt/loaned money gets a red flag because you're required to pay off the loan, so profit becomes a necessity (profit seeking motive).

Interval of time between purchase and sale: The longer time between your buying and your selling, more likely it'll be seen as investment (not taxable) instead of trading (taxable)

Method of acquisition: Gifts and inheritance aren't considered trade.
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Due to Covid-19, Government had given a lot of money to help public. They need to get back some money, since the income tax rate had not increased, what else they can get money - do a lot tax audit to charge the tax under declared & penalty.
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post Feb 24 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 24 2021, 10:14 AM)
because the US market is at all time high now.

so now the market is heading for a correction, which leads to some drop and hence the sales.

so many here say is a good time to invest more, well, this is not wrong at all.

the idea of having a DCA plan is also partly to ignore all the noises from the market, just keep calm and keep DCA-ing and stick with your plan.

forget about the investment that you have put in, visit after 3 years, you should see your money grow.

but the problem is the convenience we're getting now, just a fingertip and we can access to it.
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Thank you very much for your response smile.gif

I happen to be venturing into SA for the first time this week...so I'm like, aiks, what's all these noises...did I just do something wrong at the wrong time again @_@

And also, it's odd that funds have been transferred, but allocations to the funds have been made yet as I see it's still showing Cash (100%)...is this normal?
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post Feb 24 2021, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Feb 24 2021, 10:55 AM)
Due to Covid-19, Government had given a lot of money to help public. They need to get back some money, since the income tax rate had not increased, what else they can get money - do a lot tax audit to charge the tax under declared & penalty.
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Yeah. They are ramping up the tax audits.
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post Feb 24 2021, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Feb 24 2021, 10:59 AM)
Thank you very much for your response smile.gif

I happen to be venturing into SA for the first time this week...so I'm like, aiks, what's all these noises...did I just do something wrong at the wrong time again @_@

And also, it's odd that funds have been transferred, but allocations to the funds have been made yet as I see it's still showing Cash (100%)...is this normal?
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Yes it will take time. First the they will have to convert your money to USD, which is what you see now parked in cash. Then they have to execute the buy order, which will take place when the market opens in the US. So most of the time usually you can see money already in but no holdings yet in the morning, then the following day can see the execution of the buy order and your cash will be deducted. I believe the ETFs have no liquidity issues, so almost 100% of the time it will buy the ETFs once US markets are open.
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post Feb 24 2021, 02:47 PM

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Is it adviseable to have to 36% profiles? I started with a 22% profile then another profile of 36% about 6 months after. I was wondering if I should leave it as 22% and 36% or convert the 22% to 36% too...
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post Feb 24 2021, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(infernape772 @ Feb 24 2021, 11:06 AM)
Yes it will take time. First the they will have to convert your money to USD, which is what you see now parked in cash. Then they have to execute the buy order, which will take place when the market opens in the US. So most of the time usually you can see money already in but no holdings yet in the morning, then the following day can see the execution of the buy order and your cash will be deducted. I believe the ETFs have no liquidity issues, so almost 100% of the time it will buy the ETFs once US markets are open.
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Thanks for validating my concern, I thought so too...maybe today is the borderline...I'll give it till tomorrow considering the funds have came in on Mon.

I'm not into timing the market with SA, but a bit nervous since it's the first time into doing this...hope all goes well entering into the funds this week.
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post Feb 24 2021, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 24 2021, 12:38 AM)
Anytime is a good time to invest only thing you need to look at the money term horizon and your risk appetite to determine what kind of investor you’re

There’s is no right or wrong only strategy that your thinking at which determine what kind investment you’re suitable at

Try baby step before going to major leagues
In fact it is falling to pre Xmas levels when the market was heating up

KWEB been heating up too much already showing 3 cycles of growth which I know a lot are even nervous buying options of KWEB hitting 115 by April which thankfully i didn’t buy in because of the technicals

If your money are still profitable in others why bother about KWEB because there is always room for you to make money anytime in any markets
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I am at 30% RI but my KWEB only 10% is it because i never turn on Re-optimization? should i turn it on? My GLD is like 18.9%
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post Feb 24 2021, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Seth Ho @ Feb 24 2021, 04:43 PM)
I am at 30% RI but my KWEB only 10% is it because i never turn on Re-optimization? should i turn it on? My GLD is like 18.9%
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That's rebalancing not reoptimisation/update. Last update was May 2020.

Just keep depositing money to rebalance GLD back to 20%

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