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post Jan 11 2021, 01:25 AM

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I am honestly impressed with the level and quality of discussions here on calculations on % of returns, etc.

Just wondering, did anyone not ask SA what exactly are those two MWR and TWR by their definitions? Sorry if I've missed out somewhere on this.
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post Jan 11 2021, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 10 2021, 08:26 PM)
Means that you are good disciplined but lazy to time the markets

TWR is good for passive investors who doesn’t want to put into work and just let their savings grow which I believe 90% of SA customer does

MWR is good for those who are willing to put in some effort into understanding and timing the market when to buy hence rotational gain because FX conversion deposits and buy order

There is no right or wrong or suck it is just that approaches are different

For me I prefer MWR because the liquidity of it and the timing of FX which I always look into weekly basis and current ETF prices before putting buy order

The only good thing with StashAway is the buy order will be calculate by them and the awesome spot rates at the moment  rclxms.gif
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May I ask, if now the right time then to put lump sum into SA since USD exchange rate is low now?
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post Jan 11 2021, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(idyllrain @ Jan 11 2021, 02:30 AM)
No one can answer this for you; you just have to decide what you believe the trend will be in the coming days. If USD weakens 5% relative to MYR and the ETFs increases 5% due to positive investor sentiment, the effects cancel out. If you are not comfortable committing a large sum of money in one transaction, you can always DCA first until you make a decision.
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 11 2021, 06:38 AM)
Depends on your amount, risk appetite, ROI, monetary needs and time horizon gain

For myself anything on FX conversion rate of RM4 to 1 is a bargain at the moment for Q1 as the barrier for to go lower for RM it is difficult to go lower than that in the next 6 months as currently on range bound between RM4.01 to RM4.05 which to people DCA small amounts will not notice much difference because of the rounding with FX spot rate

This only will works for those are investing 30 to 36% because of the higher exposure to equities and not for those on lower risks appetite

If anyone last week Monday and Tuesday invested lump sum will have already gain an extra 1.1% gain for YTD due higher buy order units due to lower conversion rate  rclxms.gif
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Thanks, I think I'm getting what you're saying.
Also, mine is on 36% RI, and I plan to put in lump sum, maybe more when the USD is weak now. Later probably will DCA when I know how much I should put in, lol
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post Jan 12 2021, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 11 2021, 09:42 PM)
Remember a time when this forum was like krikkk krikkk to the sound of crickets....one day zero post also got. Now market up, suddenly day traders also appear out of nowhere.
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Lol, krikk krikk...
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post Jan 30 2021, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 29 2021, 05:02 PM)
DCA is just a nicer way of saying pump in to cover your shortfalls in the long run

Both will lead to the same goals just that how bumpy the ride is

Today last day seems SA on 36 will only gain 1.5% for the month as the correction is still happening

To those who took their gains last week congrats 6% and next month time to buy in the dips soon  rclxms.gif
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I plan to put in some funds for the first time next week. Sounds like it's a good time then?
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post Jan 30 2021, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 30 2021, 03:39 AM)
Just wait because the broader markets still volatile and the correction is just starting

If you plan to put just put on 6.5% and then crank it up to 36%

Otherwise just put in a bit about few hundreds then monitor the market

This week past 3 days already wipe out all the gains currently below 1% for SA which is about right value

If you have Wahed it is even worse
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I plan to go straight to 36%. Want to put lump sum 10-20k first, then the rest follow DCA (not sure how much yet for each sum).
If now is correction time, meaning I should wait for next couple of weeks since the prices are going down, and lump sum price would be more beneficial, yeah? Sorry if I'm not that well verse in this, appreciate your advice.

QUOTE(thesnake @ Jan 30 2021, 04:26 PM)
i dimt understand why a drop of 1-2% makes ppl got scared..in fact when markets are diwn, u should load up more..by end of this year u will be able to reap the benefits
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People expect their portfolio to be green all the time, or 1-2% of drop is scary liao...like this, then better don't invest. Stashaway is meant to be the most hassle free from monitoring or rather long term hold, so if everything also wanna kira here and there, defeats the purpose already.

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post Jan 30 2021, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 30 2021, 09:12 PM)
if u believe u can time the market well, just wait the dip n lump sum in, follow with DCA.

if u less confident, just start the DCA , no need to wait because when market start volatile, every day is the best day to dca....

ur choice, no regret after this.... thumbup.gif
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No, I actually don't believe I can time it well, lol...that's why I am thinking to go in as it is too. But wishing to hear more from fellow forummers before making the move, hehe...

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post Jan 31 2021, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 31 2021, 07:53 AM)
For you since flexible you can have it both ways whether lump sum or DCA

My suggestion if since you have a base throw the big base after Feb10 and then monitor every quarter to DCA i can be almost sure by year end will be easily 9% gain for the year

I am also waiting as well because I already made my gain 3 weeks this year waiting right timing to enter

But make sure deposit on Monday morning preferably before 10am in order for faster execution to buy order on Monday

Just be patient because market now hit with short squeeze saga which causes a lot of volatility which will play down by the next 2 weeks

Currently on 36% just monitor the KWEB and IJR because the correction are in place after those 2 have hit their all time high

Anything you can ask us the friendly bunch here or can pm me anytime :thumbsup:
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Thanks for replying and sharing your view.
I'm sure it's been answered before, but just want to be certain, I can transfer my lump sum to Simple, and when ready to put into Investing, I transfer from Simple to Investing...that way, it's immediate, yes?
QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 31 2021, 02:53 PM)
You made me Google rekt. Yes, I am an uncle.
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Lol, I did as well... everyday the generation gap keeps increasing, haih
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post Jan 31 2021, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jan 31 2021, 08:00 PM)
It is not immediate. It will take 3-4 days
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Oh no...like that means have to plan ahead. And also, no difference if transfer straight to Investing or Simple->Investing.

Thanks ya.
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post Feb 1 2021, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jan 31 2021, 08:07 PM)
Transfer straight to Investing could be faster.
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 1 2021, 01:16 AM)
Simple to Investing will take a week to reflect because of the settlement, conversion and buy order which takes time execute unless you want to time the market in weekly basis which is hard when on bullish run

If you want quick direct debit fastest within the same day on Monday morning before 10am with the exception of public holiday in Malaysia so that it can execute order on Monday in US markets

The reason why it takes because they have to sell your money market units in Malaysia which takes 3 days, conversion is quick and buy order will be reflected the next day depending on market price buy order execution

Tomorrow will be interesting for KWEB and IJR in terms on catalyst whether to see the trend will reversing or not  rclxms.gif
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Thank you very much for your responses. No wonder I see most are not that pleased with the waiting time, lol
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post Feb 23 2021, 10:57 PM

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Popping by this to see how are things here...saw many posts about sales tonight...umm, what's happening specifically?
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post Feb 24 2021, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Feb 23 2021, 11:22 PM)
Set a weekly/monthly amount that you are comfortable putting (without worrying if the price dips a bit and there is a unrealised loss) and hold for at least 1-3 years and you're set.

SAMY is supposed to be deposit and forget it.

We here just itchy follow the stock price daily cuz nothing else to do LOL
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Lol, good one
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post Feb 24 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 24 2021, 10:14 AM)
because the US market is at all time high now.

so now the market is heading for a correction, which leads to some drop and hence the sales.

so many here say is a good time to invest more, well, this is not wrong at all.

the idea of having a DCA plan is also partly to ignore all the noises from the market, just keep calm and keep DCA-ing and stick with your plan.

forget about the investment that you have put in, visit after 3 years, you should see your money grow.

but the problem is the convenience we're getting now, just a fingertip and we can access to it.
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Thank you very much for your response smile.gif

I happen to be venturing into SA for the first time this week...so I'm like, aiks, what's all these noises...did I just do something wrong at the wrong time again @_@

And also, it's odd that funds have been transferred, but allocations to the funds have been made yet as I see it's still showing Cash (100%)...is this normal?
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post Feb 24 2021, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(infernape772 @ Feb 24 2021, 11:06 AM)
Yes it will take time. First the they will have to convert your money to USD, which is what you see now parked in cash. Then they have to execute the buy order, which will take place when the market opens in the US. So most of the time usually you can see money already in but no holdings yet in the morning, then the following day can see the execution of the buy order and your cash will be deducted. I believe the ETFs have no liquidity issues, so almost 100% of the time it will buy the ETFs once US markets are open.
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Thanks for validating my concern, I thought so too...maybe today is the borderline...I'll give it till tomorrow considering the funds have came in on Mon.

I'm not into timing the market with SA, but a bit nervous since it's the first time into doing this...hope all goes well entering into the funds this week.
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post Feb 26 2021, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(Seth Ho @ Feb 24 2021, 06:09 PM)
i did not expect gld weightage to be so high. i skip 36% RI because i wanted to skip Real estate ETF. Seems like higher percentage of GLD is SA strategy
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Saw mine today finally after the funds are set in place. Indeed the GLD weightage is higher than I thought. But I believe SA know what they're doing.

QUOTE(sundancekid @ Feb 25 2021, 10:44 AM)
I think its best to have multiple portfolio at different risk levels. I have 3 and they are between 16% to 36%. It's always good to spread your risk tolerance.
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I have 36%, and creating 30% and and 26% for diversification. Is this a wise move? Can anyone provide some insights on how you mix your portfolio up, or rather stick with one?

QUOTE(odin140 @ Feb 25 2021, 03:11 PM)
ok. reporting back. my account AND deposit was pending on "processing" for a week or so. Contacted support through whatsapp and they verified my account. Now awaiting 2-3 days for deposit to go through. Thanks for the suggestions here!
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Mine took a week too... maybe first time. But boy, it was a long wait. Good thing I'm not so particular with market timing. Hope subsequent transfers won't be like this.

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post Feb 26 2021, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 26 2021, 04:10 AM)
With 36 30 and 26 it is waste of time and you stick with of it and pick another diversify at 20 for more stability because most of your holdings are overlapping to KWEB and IJR at the moment
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Thanks for your advice, appreciate it!

QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 26 2021, 07:53 AM)
36 30 and 26 have too many overlap in types of asset class to call it "diverse", all three have large exposure to equities based ETFs. SA doesn't actually have many ETFs they pick from, only different % of weight depending on SRI.

Would advise to chose a lower SRI portfolio like 20% or 18% which has less equities and more bonds.

Currently I have an 16% and a 36% portfolio, and like right now when equities took nosedive, can see that 16% still holding steady despite 36% swimming in red sea 🤣 so in the event I suddenly needed money, 16% won't hurt me terribly if I redeem some now.
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Thanks for sharing your portfolios and advice, I'll do the switching now since I just started.
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post Mar 2 2021, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Mar 1 2021, 10:35 PM)
Or be like me, auto recurring debit RM20 everyday, the gila way.  biggrin.gif
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Lol, wert... it's not crazy if it works though, haha
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post Mar 6 2021, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 6 2021, 09:01 AM)
it's going to be red for some time... i got about rm300+ wiped from my profits on SAMY also laugh.gif
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I started two weeks ago and never tasted profit, straight went to -RM400 loss, so, it's pretty bad if anyone's a newbie, sure cry if wasn't prepared for that.

Since I plan for long term, I have patience, just don't give me any shock will do, lol...will just DCA cuz this is what SA is for.

Btw, I've asked before, pardon me for this. have 36% RI, 16% and I plan to have smaller amount for 8%, is it wise? I did look at the exposure, man, gold is still quite significant. But aside that, putting more in gov bonds may not be a bad idea? Anyway, smaller amount just for additional diversification purpose in case market tumble with my other RIs, okay or very silly?

Appreciate your thoughts.
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post Mar 6 2021, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Mar 6 2021, 04:15 PM)
Using StashAway means you give up controlling what is present in your portfolio. If you try to game the system by having different risk indexes, instead of actually setting goals like "retirement", "car" etc, I suggest you to use US stock brokers like Tiger, IBKR, TD Ameritrade and DIY instead.

Constantly gaming stashaway when you know what you want, you will be unhappy in long run.
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I have not much experience in stocks, wouldn't venture into those for now, thanks for listing them down.

What I'm trying to approach by having different RIs is to diversify long term returns in case one of the RIs suddenly pooped by market, lol...macam more like back-up plans.

Example, 36% is more aggressive approach to go more on retirement financial freedom, 8% is for retirement emergencies. If that makes sense.
Not trying to game it cuz SA is supposed to alleviate my worries by not monitoring, sorta, lol

Don't know if this thinking is right, I welcome feedbacks.

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post Mar 6 2021, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Mar 6 2021, 04:48 PM)
Do you have a portfolio of investments  which includes other investments besides SA? An 8% SA still have volatility and not for emergency funds. Maybe money market funds or savings account for emergencies?
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I do, like FDs, hehe... always good to have this for exigencies. My thought on 8% is like, "have risk, but at least not of supreme volatility". So wanted to have both extreme ends in SA, so to speak. And if 8% RI can get ~5% as per their 2020 performance, I'm happy dee.

QUOTE(viktorherald @ Mar 6 2021, 04:49 PM)
if the 8% risk have some asset allocation that is same as 36%, can be thought as "averaging down" the risk index of your overall portfolio to say, 26% ? (example made up number, but the idea is that)...
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Oh ya, true also. Didn't think of it from "averaging down" perspective. Hmm, good angle to look at, thanks.

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