Done car detailing at SS2 which cost RM2XX today...

Result:


i can feel the car paint a lot of slickness than original paint... about shiny, not comments bcos my car paint still new, i maintain it previously and not yet done any expensive car detailing before, but the reflection seem sharper than original paint... about the durability, will wait for another months only know the result...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Oct 14 2008, 04:38 PM

Yep. Birdshit. Mango Juice etc etc. Must be wash IMMEDIATELY. If u put it under the hotsun, it'll leave a mark. There's nothing u can do about it. Unless you sand paper it and then re-paint it or something like that.

hmm may sound like a stupid question, but is it because bird shit is acidic?

Well if you didn't leave it under the sun for too long, some tar remover might be able to get it off.
But typically once it's eaten into the paint, you'll have to live with it already. Hence, I never park under any fruit trees that might have sap drops (mango is one of the worst) and clean anything on your paint immediately like Matrix said.

I carry a spray gun with water and a cloth in the boot.

Yes acidic some as mango or orange. Those juice even can make ur car rust if u dun treat immediately

It's a good practice that we should learn.

I've got a few of that too on my car... coz my car are parked under the sun in the factory compound. by the time i realised the bird shit, itz too late edi.

normally if this happen to my car, a heavy rain will remove it for me....

hurm..do some double layer polish..i have same prob like u..cow shit under my skirt and the car wash centre dont realize it for two weeks ..but the owner give me discount on double layer polish and my car looks new

sigh... not soultion for this issues?
afraid it will permanent "watermark" which cause by shit...

it wont, last time got 1 bird drop to my car's boot, also under hot sun for long time before i realise, after i remove it still got 'water mark', but after a few car wash and heavy rain, the 'water mark' is gone....

sometime it depend on the wax you use......i own a white car so i know how blardy hard to clean it....especially birdy poo....currently using soft99 car wax which is worth the money you pay at RM14.90 or something

erm..how come i can remove easily, just use water then remove it...

aiyo...depend how 'old' is your bird shit la ......if like 2-4 weeks lidat...then you tyr and see can or not.....

this is what i hate most... there are several on my hood... and i hate it !!! Arghhhhh.... try washing it.. but nothing can do...

i never wax may car before... now, i;m dead... need to wax !! REMEMBER!

try park under hot sun

got picture?
try to poilsh?

i had this problem before.
no choice ,, got one yellow spot
but now gone d ...
eventually it wont stucked long inside the paint pigment .

polished and shampoo-ed, still have water mark...
not too obvious, but can see a tiny different the paint with / without shit...



god bless my car paint will recover soon... sigh...

birds should go hell ... i just personally washed my car today.. then.. damn birds.. i'll kill each and every one of them if ever i get my hands on them

You just wash you car? It's raining damn heavily now. So you're cursing the weather now?

i everyday got bird sh!t on my car i wish can shot all the birds

It looks quite deep. But it still looks like polishing can still save your car's look without the need to repaint that part...

You just need a very good detailing shop which can help you polish off the watermark...

any recommended polish shop around Kepong/PJ/Sunway?
i knew that behind sunway esso petrol station have a polish shop if not mistake, is it?
how much it will cost if polish the roof only...

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Added on June 14, 2007, 7:07 pmjust found a detailing shop...
http://www.magicglare.com

have other recommended shop ?

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 14 2007, 07:07 PM

lol not only bird... i dunno why cat like my car (white colour) so many times got paw stains (cat leg) on my car cannot wash away

I have those bird shits and tree/fruit saps. Hard to remove them!

so u just let it be? or intend to get the detailing shop to polish for u?

Try to clean them myself but it just couldn't get off.

Wanted to send to polish but it's quite expensive and some said that if you polish your car body frequent, it may damage the finishing. Not sure how true is it.

i intend to try magicglare but doubt on the price, should be around Rm500
but it can last up to 2yrs with warranty...

What is magicglare?

easy way to remove - buy soft99 tin can wax called cleaner wax. it comes in a chrome-like can, and is GREAT for road tar and grease as well. i use it to coat my car's lower panels although some elbow grease is needed....

You have to wash the car first and then apply this soft99 wax right?

How about old stains? Can remove as well?

washed and polished... used various type of polish... still have watermark...
i think the only choices was send to detailing shop to do polish only i think...

my car just 4 months old, dont have much old stains loh...

use easy bang! only rm8.80

i think the car paint will peel off...

chishin....easy bang eats up the paint...i remember lastime my neighbour maid use those detergent to wash the car...that time the car was a bright red Proton Iswara...She dip the sponge into the pail and wipe on car...next thing, almost whole patch of red paint boh liau instantly and the sponge becum red like blood...can almost see the primer white....p.s: use that only if you hate someone's car ...........

last time thos happen to me ( birg poo stain, those squashed bug on the bumper ), i was worried sick, i cant get it off using any of my household stuff, later decide to polish the whole car, i did it at CARs, everything of those unwanted stuff gone + spanking shining car.. it was like the best rm180 i ever spend

where u did the polish?
i think the car treatment at sunway will cost RM500...

try using clay

rm500?! i think that price range for detailing edy.. i've done it ar CARs for polish+wax rm180 for non member.

such as those car washer under the shopping center car park basement?

yup... that price for detailing but warranty up to 2 yr for glossy...

there is no such thing as polish once and last for 2 years. u need maintenance. For RM500 you can better job from somewhere else.

those are their marketing gimmicks. what Glare uses for their cars are flop technologies from US.

CARs workmanship is one of the worst. Under the fluro light, your car may look nice. Once is under the hot sunny sun, you will notice the scuff all around the paint.

if you are interested, i can recommend you a guy in SS2. The place might look cikai, but the price and job detail was well paid. PM me.

This post has been edited by lonewolf: Jun 15 2007, 12:19 PM

AutoDetailer at Jalan Bersatu, Seksyen 13. You be amazed with the results and it ain't that expensive. Interested, just PM me and I will give you their contact.

AutoDetailer at Jalan Bersatu
Swissol at Seri Hartamas, opposite projet
HarryBright at Taman Mayang
Carbauna Autospa, at Glenmarie if not wrong

Carnauba Autospa at Glenmarie is a NO NO for me. I sent my car once and I'm not going back there anymore!

huh? hiding polish shop contact number?

yeah, old stains no problem. my car is going to be a year old now and i only use the soft99 wax every 4 months or so

not really, it depends on the polish itself. some waxes/polishers are designated as cleaner waxes/polishes and unless its a paint chip, you'll lose those watermarks. However, you'll have to be careful as they have a tendency to create swirl marks instead, so over that, add a polymer sealant or your regular polish.

agree with lonewolf - for our weather you'll need to rewax the car at least every 2 months, and clay/polish every quarter if you want that brand new look. wash with plain tap water every week, too. for those who want showcar look, detail every week lo.

I had no issue with Autospa at Glenmarie. On average I spend around RM200 there every month and it's been a year now, no problems. Now that you've mentioned it, it's time to go back to do my full detailing again.

Done car detailing at SS2 today... updated post #1 with picture...
but the bird poo cant 100% be remove... sigh...
at least the stain look smoother and unnoticeable right now...

If you are paying for a full detailing and they can't get rid of the bird poo, I would not have paid them. What's the point of having a detailing that cost over RM500 and can't get the bird poo out.

Did you just go for a polish or was it a full detailing? I did my full detailing at Autospa and took them 6 hours of removing every single stain/mark/scratch on both inside and outside of the car, down to the rims and engine.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Jun 17 2007, 12:17 PM

a simple snowwash and flowjet will do the trick......not forget polish and waxing.

also optional is sanding the impurities.....

RM2xx for full detailing with meguairs and klasse SG, wont expect the best result will be giving by them... just around 3 hrs on exterior only...

according to the boss and the SOURCE he found, the bird poo mostly caused by crow, he tried with polisher machines which he not recommended for new paint, it may take out the clear coat and harmed the paint... but at least "smoother" the stain now...

if want to get the best result, he recommended to optimize it during next 3 months... coat a layer for each months to get the maximum result...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 17 2007, 05:15 PM

do you all know birds like white cars......

that we unsure, but for sure the cars bombed by bird poo, 90% is caused by park under trees...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 17 2007, 05:15 PM

Same here, for me the only place i will be happy for them to get their hands on, on my car would be carnuba. @glenmarie.

what is the autospa price if do the exterior detailing only?

You mean polish and wax? There is no exterior detailing. When you do detailing you do full interior/exterior treatment of the car, not just the outside. They don't have exterior detailing packages. For that you have to combine certain polish and wax services that they offer to make it look like an exterior 'detailing'.

You'd have to check with Autospa whether they can fix the problem or not. Tell them that you are not going to pay if they can't remove it. Hhahahaa.. Just don't tell them that I sent you there.

If you want to talk about reflection, the reflection on my car in my siggie is still there after 9 months of detailing (and monthly wax) and the car is 4.5 years old. That's what autospa has done to it and I'd rather not wash my car if I have to go somewhere else.

i found this out by watchin' do you know that?' @ nat geo cnl 52.... opps sorry not white but black.....more poo on it...

yeah... just polish and wax the exteriorl only...
not necessary to detailing the interior since all the interior parts wont effected by external environment except the sunshine...just the exterior is the most concern, rain lah, dust lah, stone lah, bird poo lah, mango juice lah, scratch lah, etc so try to save the interior for exterior only...

if about the reflection, possible tat car detailing will make the car paint 99% same like mirror? i feel tat the original paint/coat made car paint reflection "uneven" bit like a tiny wave (the reflection should be a straight line)...

out of topic: is it ur car plate number was W?? 80?


maybe is bcos the crow was black and they thought all of the black stuffs were their friends, try to go nearer with it...

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Added on June 18, 2007, 7:36 ami found a small bird poo again this morning, suspect bombed yesterday evening/night, allowed the bird poo overnight on my car...
i try with cotton clothes and water, surprise that it can clean easily... not need to use polisher or wipe it hardly which may scratch the car paint... feel like the bird poo floting on "oil surface"...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 18 2007, 07:44 AM

There's actually another Subaru with my colour and number plate very close to mine. Even my friends sometimes confuse themselves. Mine does not have '8' in the number plate.

As for the reflection, new car paint actually has the worse reflection, esp straight from factory. We always think that continental paints look so good when new, that's because they send it to detailing shops like Autospa to get a full detailing before selling to customers, even when the paint is new. I always see brand new BMW and Minis at Autospa getting a full detailing before they send the new car to customers.

In your case, if you want the mirror finish, you'd need to do a full polish and wax, even if your car is new.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Jun 18 2007, 08:49 AM

Hey what happened? CA Glenmarie is my favourite spot for car washes, they are quite detailed in exterior washing. I wouldn't say the same for the Tun Razak branch, though...

Waterspots and they left me a long scratch on the boot. The next day I clean myself to remove the waterspots, even cleaner than what they did.

now prefer DIY ... end result might not be that good compare those pro shop ... but still acceptable

sleepwalker..just wondering how much u r paying them to do the detailing job?

having a day with ur precious car and giving it a wash is the best(including interior)..no worries of scratches or everything.....

u can check their website....

autospa

Sad to say, not many people have the time or the skill to be "having a day with ur precious car and giving it a wash"

haih.............really really sad..........

Sometimes home washes scratches the car more than the professionals out there, unless you are using the high quality microfibres and terry towels. One thing is for sure, it's way too much effort to clean my car the way autospa does. Takes them 90 mins to clean the car and they dry the car 4 times over with 5th layer shine spray. Don't think I'd have the patience or time for that. While they are cleaning, at least I get to spend 90 mins online at Lowyat.net.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Jun 21 2007, 03:12 PM

err have you all heard that a guy in UK charges 1000quin for a complete detailing for supercars? evrything the guy use is top! he even use the top grade carnauba wax with his hands and smear it on the car's body. the temperature of the water is also regulated!

that guy mah this felllar lor...Paul Dalton

http://www.vxronline.co.uk/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=4618
http://www.vxronline.co.uk/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=4145
http://www.vxronline.co.uk/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=5801

This post has been edited by lonewolf: Jun 21 2007, 03:38 PM

Guys its seem like this topic was left for a long time. I wanna ask u guys i m a newbie in this DIY polish and wax job. Where shd i start? What product shd i use? HOw regularly shd i polish or wax? I m currently using an amway product for my car polishing job its a Silicon Glaze Car Polish any1 use that product before?

This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Aug 15 2007, 08:02 AM

For detailing, it's better to check at Autoworld than FNF, try here, loads of information:
http://www.autoworld.com.my/forum/summary....10511090&page=1

This is another useful link, Meguiar's Detailing 101 (you don't have to use Meguiar's products, just learn the basics):
http://www.meguiars.com.my/forum2/viewforu...b1df797fbffc408

dude i read the forums but what i found out it most of them are recommending Meguiar's product. Is there any product beside it? It is hard for me to get a Meguiar as it is not easily available from all hypermarket. I search thru Jusco, Giant but it seems like i m running out of luck. Parkson is simply too far from me. For me i just require some information on how to do a proper and simple polish and wax. Thanks for ur guide there dude.

u can try permaglass product, can get easily from 1U eneos or carrefour...

i use shampoo to wash


later use clay bar


later do sealant with finishing microfiber

meguiars in KL only can buy in eneos, ace, parkson 1u and subang.

if u dun wan so espensive, turtle wax and the 1 shown by gkl83 are the next choice ...

dude i heard some positive response about turtle wax. Where can i get it i m living at small place in Johor. I still live at the top of the tree so kinda ulu(but i take lift to get in my house) =P .If KL sure no problem i heard many forumer recommend Eneos but the first time i heard them is from Initial D. but anyway which supermarket i can get turtle wax? Is turtle wax is a wax not polish?

Are you sure you're not an Ewok
Turtle Wax is a brand, they have all kinds of stuff.

Well, whatever products you use, you have to learn the basics, like the 2-bucket method, how to clay, how to wax, how to buff, time to wash, etc. Just Google around for some detailing forums

yes, eneos is 1 the japanese oil company like petronas ... and they sell all kinds of stuff as long as related to car ... not only petrol ...

turtle wax is just a brand name like meguiars

suppose turtle wax u can buy in carefour, giant and jusco ...

turtle wax is not cheap either for the 'highes spec' ... their platinum shampoo costs rm35++

for shampoo, i would recommend Autoglym's Bodywork Shampoo and Conditioner.
Selling at 69+ before discount for 1L pack, but should last a year with weekly wash if follow the usage instruction

shampooo and conditioner?? lol.. that funny for me.. a car need conditioner too i never knew that. But pls dun recommend somehting that i wan to get but i cant get. Anyway my dad would kill me if i buy RM69 car shampoo for my LMST. the proportion doesnt seem rite. I wouldnt mind if i m driving a BM.

do u clay ur car? I mean i saw in some of the forum about claying its use a clay with ur palm and rub it against ur car rite? Is it polish and waxing sufficient for my car?

yes, clay is a must after washing and before you polish/wax your car ...

purpose of clay is to have a clean surface for polish/wax ...

if u straight wax without clay, the dirt will together mount inside the car paint ...

my fren's car never clay before, that day he clay, the clay turn to black immediately ... so u can think how dirty the car paint is even washed with shampoo already ...

carrefour should have it.. its quite common.. else singapore, which isnt too far from ur place

turtle wax shampoo ~17 ringgit for 1.9L

u must remember.. megxxxxx stuff is dirt cheap like single dollar digits in US

yea Auto Detailer very good uses Meguiar's
alot of car clubs have been there

even im a meguiar's user
im using Meguiar's NXT car wash shampoo, meguiar's tyre shine, few more products which the rest i dont use only my bro does polishin like crazy with Meguiar's

This post has been edited by sherren: Aug 17 2007, 01:49 AM

Someone posted this somewhere before, How To Clay:
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-clay.html

Why is Megxxxxx so expensive here? The only Megxxxxx product I can comfortably afford is the applicator pads at RM6 each

if meguiars is espensive can buy the rm2.5 car shampoo ... also tat clean and shine

might be heading to autodetailer before raya..
any advices what packages/stuff i should do there?

i mean,
can't just go there ask "can detail ah? how much? aiyaa..mahal laa"


eh,
"0123838961- Darren"
this guy still using this no ah?

ehm.. guys.. lol.. sounds abit weird.

but few times i tried this when i lazy to to wax my car

i go use Kit's car washer fluid n MIX with i think its FAB clothes washing powder n mix them together

n wash my car with it... the dirt on n watever easily get wash off. n the polish n shine thats left on ur car is superb!!
the down side is, i dunno what will happen or wat can happen

but yeah.. it really can wash off all the oil, dirt, tar, bird crap n leave no marks.

anyone other den me got try tis b4 ah??

Meguairs, FTW!

wat's meguairs?

If I'm not wrong it is the current most expensive car products, shampoo, wax and etc.