don't think so

Someone told me paint process is wet on wet application.

Just came back from Daikin USJ. Ngam ngam, there is a technical guy from Meguiars name B.S. Yap was there in the shop. When he saw my two week tak cuci punya kereta + kotor +raining punya pasal, straight he came to me and tell me my car not protected.

I was like wtf? How he know my car not protected by any wax etc? Because of my car dirtiness? He also tell me that my car have lots of swirl mark. And again i was like wtf? He is on some kind of bionic eye or wat? So i challenge him to show me the swirl mark as well as not protected. He told me that if i wan my car to shine and gloss, i need to do Rm488 full complete Meg package.

Ask him for a demo on how 'gloss' my light colour car can go and he say no problem. I will let u see the significant result after i wash my car. So there he is after washing (Daikin worker wash of course), came to me and started to put compound and fix Even Coat Microfibre Applicator Pads on the polishing tools. He did it for 5 layer of compound on half of my bonet and finally told me can't do much as i need to do sanding. He also commented Daikin shop lack of accesories and the need to change the applicator pad as it's too weak to cut anything. After 5 layer, he polished it with profesional series and uses RejecX for final part.

Of course i can feel the smooth surface in the end of the job but one thing that he said earlier 'significant gloss result' was nowhere to be seen. He told me must see the lighting and need to be seen on certain angle. I was like, hey if it is a 'significant result' should i see in the eye of a pro detailer which must be seen from some angle, ligthing and crap? But no doubt if u see from some lighting, u can see a very sharp looking word (reflection from signboard) but if u see from the untreated bonet, the wording is blurly.

Lastly i ask him about swirl mark on my car that he claimed early on and his answer is too easy. He jes told me can only be seen at night where light are shot to my car. Also can only be seen under bright sun or bright spot light. Ask him to show me by shoting sport light on my car to find swirl mark but he seems to ignore my question. In fact, he only answer 3 out of dozen question i throw to him. Choosy picky question i guess. He will go blah blah blah and u like ya ya, uhu, uhu, but why ... and he will totally ignore it and answer u with different topic and blah blah again. lol

But, he is still a nice guy to chat with and he does have deep knowledge on the product but it's jes anooying when he completely ignoring customer question. At the end thanks him for the demo and left the place.

Took me about an hour ++ there. I have lots of time but jes that 4 cars in Daikin are waiting for me to go out only they can come out from the shop. My car was the first one. Pity them lol. I feel so uneasy for them to wait so long but none of Daikin worker dare to interupt us. Make me paiseh jugak..

PS: btw, there is a thing he show me quite interesting. He claimed to be from Germany. It's call magic sponge. He jes use the white sponge with clear water and manage to wipe out my century dirt on the rubber easily. Last time when i sent my car to polish and interior, the guy told me the dirt canot be save anymore. But this guy only uses the magic sponge and clear water and wipe it off without any big effort. I wonder what is that and he told me cant be bought here. Imported from German. Hope i can find it. Anyone know? It feel like a hard white sponge. I really need it to clean all the dirt in my car. Below is the photo



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Presenting Mrs.White
Took me 8hours++ to complete. Very lucky for her, get a nice facial treatment

*sorry* link is chinese forum, but series of picture i have posted here.
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Wow, look at the products used. I have to admit it really does look nice Can you do it for my car too?

The coating presence (or whats left of it) is based on the Surface Tension. As can be seen in the picture above, the surface tension is inter-related with the angle of the water beading, which is the measuring tool being used here.


I think there's some mis-communication here. For all type of Coating Guarantees (not only Sonax, but also PPS, Matrix, Diamonbrite etc.), it only involves the coating stays there and do what it should do, protect your car. For the MR-S case, as I stated, the water beading is still fantastic thus the coating is there. He also understands it wasn't part of the warranty. The reason for this is simple, there are many forms of matters that can bond to the surface of the coating, thereby hampering the reflection of light eg. shine. The coating was never meant to prevent such matters bonding to the surface but rather to reduce it. Even when the coating is damaged you can rest easy that it did not hurt your paint. Even if you waxed you car, park it in front of a Eatery everyday the oil stains & smog will still eat onto the surface on the wax.


The idea of coating is that you don't have to do the waxing thing from time to time, that's the idea of it. If you prefer optimum shine, I do acknowledge that Waxing is the better way.


For Honda Accord size car the price is RM650 [Free 6 washes + 1 wax]. Waxing gives better shine, is smoother, and if some stains stick to the wax and hamper the shine you can easily remove the wax and re-apply


Can, provided you already sand-down your previous clearcoat properly without hurting your pigment coat.


Where's the photo? Sounds like a Dirt Eraser to me

Those botel with a Z, where can buy? I now start kena poison of car detailing after my first diy wax

dont have time n passion nemore..since im handlin new house reno plus raya ...now my car u see also will tepuk dahi...maybe by end of month i can get peace i use to have...hopefully...

anyone can give some pro and cons on Coating vs Regular Waxing?..

i maybe wrong at this, from what i heard those who did coatings, it seems they are having a hard time to remove the light scratches later..

It really depends what you want. Coating is for those who want to rest well to know that their paint is protected even if they miss their regular wax exercises since Coating lasts much longer. Also, as a rigid layer the Coating acts as a physical shield so when your coating is damaged by things like stone chips, bird crap etc. Your paint underneath is still safe.

On the other hand, regular Waxing is for those who wants optimum shine and don't mind to put in more elbow grease for it. However, it does not provide protection and surface tension as good as Coating since Wax is softer. Bird crap practically only takes up to 6 hours to eat through a dual freshly waxed layer to damage your paint.

For optimum results, I'll just recommend Coating first, then layer it with Wax


Bottle with Z is a brand called Zymol, the distributor in Malaysia is Carnauba Autospa and their address is:
No. 34, Jalan Pemberita U1/49, Seksyen U1,
Temasya Industrial Park, Glenmarie
40150 Shah Alam. Selangor
You can also email them : info[at]autospa.com.my

This post has been edited by Yukito: Oct 15 2008, 07:31 PM

Hi Yukito,

The bottle with Z is a brand call Zaino but not Zymol.


Hi squareball,

Thanks for the interest in Zaino. We are the Asia Distributor for Zaino Show Car Polish. You can get the sealants directly from us in Singapore and we will send the order to you by Singpost. Currently we are working with some detailing centre or reseller to carry Zaino ranges of products in Malaysia.

You got PM.

Cheers!
Brian

My noob-ness exposed

Brian, do you have any Point Of Sales in Malaysia?

what is the difference between the polymer sealant, the regular wax paste and the liquid wax? and if i use the quick detailer, do i still need to do waxing?

Hey Brian, you forgot to mention about Dodo Juice

Hi, i just got a new car and the SA had done a polish for me.
Its only 3 night and bcoz i park below the tree, so the tree leaves and drop a some yellowish liquid on the car paint, will it damage the paint?

Do i need to apply a layer of wax to prevent the drop to damage the paint?

u have to remove the yellowish stain before u wax

My own interpretation:
Polymer Sealant - chemical imitation of wax, suppose to last longer than waxes but less shine
Regular Wax Paste - Harder to apply than liquid wax, but lasts longer
Liquid Wax - Easier to apply than paste wax, but lasts shorter


Assume that it will and remove it.

I went to Sonax yesterday to get my car coat. I must say, I am really impressed with the end result. The whole process took more than 7 hours. They really putted in their time and effort to get my car paint protected. The guy called James Tan was really friendly.

how much? for what car?

i have this coating thing in my mind. since coating will bond to the paint and create a hard plastic shield. Assuming i do get scratches later(which it will for daily driven car), does using a paint cutter able to remove the coat? or i have to do sanding? ....

The package which include washing, claying, polishing and coating which comes with a 6 free wash and a wax only cost RM480 for a medium size car. I'm driving a Peugeot 407 by the way. Now my car seems glossy and wet. The water bedding effect was great when James Tan showed them to me after the whole process.

If you are worried of your car paint, coating is one of the option to protect your paint. I have a small dog at home which contributed to most of my scratches. After purchasing a car mat to protect my car, somehow seeing those scratches, I felt heartbroken, thus I sent my car for the coating.

Regarding your question of removing the coat, that I leave it to other sifu to answer.

just wondering how long does your water bedding effect going to last..until the next coating..any warranty on this?..