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ben3003
post Oct 17 2025, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 17 2025, 04:59 PM)
Interesting.

I wonder ...

A) Will car manufacturers begin void warranty on their vehicles because a different battery was used instead of a lead acid battery ?
B) Which battery tester has the capability to test Sodium Batteries ?
C) Where does Sodium Battery sit in between AGM Batt, EFB Batt & RFB Battery in terms of superiority ?

Correction on the article which kind of imply indirectly that lead acid batteries causes fire. While lead acid batteries will explode under specific condition but that explosion will NEVER cause any fire.
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sodium ion is like a lithium ion battery but using sodium instead lithium.
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post Oct 17 2025, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 17 2025, 10:07 PM)
sodium ion is like a lithium ion battery but using sodium instead lithium.
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So will Sodium Ion battery burn easily like Lithium Ion battery too ?
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post Oct 17 2025, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 17 2025, 10:22 PM)
So will Sodium Ion battery burn easily like Lithium Ion battery too ?
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I mean working principle my friend. Generally safer as per google. Most important is lighter and charge faster
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post Oct 18 2025, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 17 2025, 10:39 PM)
I mean working principle my friend. Generally safer as per google. Most important is lighter and charge faster
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I think I will have to spend some time on studying about this sodium battery before making my own conclusion. Sorry I don't trust Google.

The easier route for me would be just to follow what the car manufacturers have to say about using sodium battery and warranty on their vehicles.

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post Oct 18 2025, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 17 2025, 10:39 PM)
I mean working principle my friend. Generally safer as per google. Most important is lighter and charge faster
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73% lighter, that makes huge different, reduce some weight can increase fuel efficiency ⛽🙂
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post Oct 18 2025, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 18 2025, 03:31 PM)
73% lighter, that makes huge different, reduce some weight can increase fuel efficiency ⛽🙂
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If I remembered the article correctly the difference is something like 8.5 kg vs 9.9 kg that is 1.4 kg difference only. How did they get 73% again ?
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post Oct 18 2025, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 18 2025, 03:42 PM)
If I remembered the article correctly the difference is something like 8.5 kg vs 9.9 kg that is 1.4 kg difference only. How did they get 73% again ?
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Here is the statement from the article
Compared to typical lead-acid batteries, Aeson Power Sodium-ion batteries are lighter by up to 73%, designed to last longer and better suited for Malaysia’s hot climate.

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post Oct 18 2025, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 18 2025, 03:42 PM)
If I remembered the article correctly the difference is something like 8.5 kg vs 9.9 kg that is 1.4 kg difference only. How did they get 73% again ?
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thats y u need to read properly my friend what they comparing.
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post Oct 18 2025, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 17 2025, 10:39 PM)
I mean working principle my friend. Generally safer as per google. Most important is lighter and charge faster
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3 years warranty covered with acceptable price, that a great thing. Good bye 12 month warranty for battery after this.
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post Oct 19 2025, 05:09 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 18 2025, 11:56 PM)
3 years warranty covered with acceptable price, that a great thing. Good bye 12 month warranty for battery after this.
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Better read the terms and conditions carefully when it's available later.

I wonder what is the catch when the report mentioned it's suitable for 95% vehicles on the road only, not 100% ? Why it's not suitable for another 5% of vehicles ah ? Hmmm why got special exclusion, when it's reported superiority matching from RFB, EFB and even AGM battery ?

Plus 3 years warranty isn't a big deal either as it's been offered by battery companies before too. It's sad that my Principal Co had to pull the plug on this battery from the market, bukan pasal SIRIM approved quality, but pasal dubious warranty claims. I wonder if Amaron distributors still has the 36 months warranty program running or Amaron distributors have decided to quietly remove the 36 months warranty too ?

Kejap to be continued ...

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post Oct 19 2025, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 19 2025, 05:09 AM)
Better read the terms and conditions carefully when it's available later.

I wonder what is the catch when the report mentioned it's suitable for 95% vehicles on the road only, not 100% ? Why it's not suitable for another 5% of vehicles ah ? Hmmm why got special exclusion, when it's reported superiority matching from RFB, EFB and even AGM battery ?

Plus 3 years warranty isn't a big deal either as it's been offered by battery companies before too. It's sad that my Principal Co had to pull the plug on this battery from the market, bukan pasal SIRIM approved quality, but pasal dubious warranty claims. I wonder if Amaron distributors still has the 36 months warranty program running or Amaron distributors have decided to quietly remove the 36 months warranty too ?

Kejap to be continued ...
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Which battery brand offer 3 years warranty? The Amaron 36 months warranty are full of Term & Condition and at 36 months definitely not 100% worth of claim, due to its T&C, ie only get discount for trade in etc.

Most other recent battery are good to offer for 18 month warranty and without any hassle. If this 3 years warranty same as this, definitely good for car owner

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post Oct 19 2025, 02:29 PM

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Aiyo.. My Varta Q85 battery just KO after 1.5 years. Not sure if that's the normal period range or the brand or what.
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 19 2025, 02:29 PM)
Aiyo.. My Varta Q85 battery just KO after 1.5 years. Not sure if that's the normal period range or the brand or what.
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Hard to say, in my experienced using amaron on my toyota camry acv30 2.0e would last 1 years 6 month only meanwhile previous astra would last 2 years 2 month 10 days.. Most batteries wont last long on the old cars
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post Oct 19 2025, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 19 2025, 02:42 PM)
Hard to say, in my experienced using amaron on my toyota camry acv30 2.0e would last 1 years 6 month only meanwhile previous astra would last 2 years 2 month 10 days.. Most batteries wont last long on the old cars
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Was thinking should I switch brand next time? All the while I'm using Varta.
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 19 2025, 02:49 PM)
Was thinking should I switch brand next time? All the while I'm using Varta.
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Roman Catholic waiting for his feedback

As for me, yes you should switch brand, ive tried a few brand before.. so far century, gs and astra would be my choice, currently use astra again 🙂
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 19 2025, 03:01 PM)
Roman Catholic waiting for his feedback

As for me, yes you should switch brand, ive tried a few brand before.. so far century, gs and astra would be my choice, currently use astra again 🙂
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I never heard of Astra before. Price wise is similar or more expensive?
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 19 2025, 03:03 PM)
I never heard of Astra before. Price wise is similar or more expensive?
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astra battery basically a local brand by bateriku with sirim certified, been using it twice, my previous also astra and now also astra

bought from bateriku apps, they come and fix it for me, as the servicr and warranty covered nationwide, peace of mind
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post Oct 19 2025, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 19 2025, 03:35 PM)
astra battery basically a local brand by bateriku with sirim certified, been using it twice, my previous also astra and now also astra

bought from bateriku apps, they come and fix it for me, as the servicr and warranty covered nationwide, peace of mind
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How long is the warranty? Just now I did call Bateriku also and they said the price is 500+ compared to Varta 470 hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 19 2025, 04:15 PM)
How long is the warranty? Just now I did call Bateriku also and they said the price is 500+ compared to Varta 470 hmm.gif
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18 month, mine installed on 30 september 2025, warranty end march 2027 for astra, mine rm348 for NS70L (80D26L) after minus rm20 trade old battery
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 19 2025, 07:36 AM)
Which battery brand offer 3 years warranty? The Amaron 36 months warranty are full of Term & Condition and at 36 months definitely not 100% worth of claim, due to its T&C, ie only get discount for trade in etc.

Most other recent battery are good to offer for 18 month warranty and without any hassle. If this 3 years warranty same as this, definitely good for car owner
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Century UltraMax was the 1st battery to come with a 36 month warranty however due to many dubious warranty claims, it had to be removed. Although I had not had the opportunity to use the Ultramax myself, I believe that the UltraMax would deliver.

Anyways I wanted to share was a picture of the battery that was installed on 22/8/2025 with SoC 98% and SoH 100% and I had informed the owner that he needed to resolve an issue to avoid complications later on. Tiba tiba early morning almost 2 months later, he called to inform that the battery couldn't start the Hilux and said battery was defective. Went to inspect immediately found the battery had SoC 0% and SoH 23%. Tested the battery and it was good and immediately noticed that the owner did NOT DO ANYTHING despite being advised of the impending problem that would appear. Warranty claim denied on the spot. I wanted to post the picture of this case but the. computer says file too big to upload. Many a times what I have found is that the problem is not the battery but something else instead. That is why until today, I have not made any warranty claims yet because I distribute quality batteries only.

No doubt if I started distributing lower quality batteries, yeah I believe there is a possibility of me making a warranty claim, which I refuse to do so. What amazes me is that dealers suka sukà submit warranty claim, dunno if they got really investigate what is the actual cause of the problem onot. Semua hantar balik distributor and distributor hantar balik factory. Macam takde kerja lain ka.

Anyway back to a topic that we have in common now X70.

Relative got this new vehicle less than 2 years ago and the both batteries had failed to even 1 year. When the stock battery was replaced by the SC, he had called me and I went over to check the battery replacement, I informed his wife that the battery did not pass the tests. But the wife informed that SC says everything a OK. So I left it at that. But what I terkejut is when buka engine cover etc battery size had shrink from DIN75 keta awal awal sampai DIN55 keta sekarang. Comelnya tapi boleh tahan ke ?

Fast foward 3 months later, the replacement battery died as predicted and he called me for battery replacement. Now I am begining to doubt how on earth can a modern car full of electronics came with DIN75 initially but now battery size have shrunk to DIN55. Nak modify battery tray to put inside DIN75 inside also cannot. Yeah I remember you mentioned that yours was NS70LS right but now it's even smaller DIN55. Gila ka ? Dunno in the future they will put Kancil NS40ZL inside onot ? I suspect very soon battery companies will have to start reviewing their battery warranty for certain model, especially when high number of warranty claims starts coming in.

I believe too that Sodium ka Lithium ka, they will have to review their T&C when warranty claims naik mendadak.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 19 2025, 10:03 PM

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