QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 19 2025, 02:29 PM)
Aiyo.. My Varta Q85 battery just KO after 1.5 years. Not sure if that's the normal period range or the brand or what.
Aik EFB-Q85 wor, takkan so fast kong. Kejap u tak turn off Stop-Start function ke ?Battery brand that has lasted 4 years or more.
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 19 2025, 10:16 PM) That's good. New car I guess. Have you added any 3rd party accessories that connected to the electrical system ? Cause I got a client new Saga that I am monitoring closely. May this year she got the car but this month, 5 months later when tested, systems showed got problem. Entered her car and noticed immediately that there was arm rest that wasn't there when the car was new and I begin to ask her what is this about. She is Chinese ed, so we are ,Ike chicken and duck. But she sensed in my voice that I wasn't pleased with the thing she bought and at home, she unplugged it out from the electrical system. Immediately she called and mentioned that now her car starts up fine. Previously it was laggy like as if the battery was weak. So if you have 3rd party accessories, these will cause some kind of drain and will affect the buttery overtime. Curios what is your car model and make ? This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 19 2025, 10:25 PM |
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 19 2025, 10:24 PM) That's good. Not exactly new, it's a 2018 2.0 Mazda CX-5 car. I only have a 70 mai front and back car dashcam that only operates when the car is started.New car I guess. Have you added any 3rd party accessories that connected to the electrical system ? Cause I got a client new Saga that I am monitoring closely. May this year she got the car but this month, 5 months later when tested, systems showed got problem. Entered her car and noticed immediately that there was arm rest that wasn't there when the car was new and I begin to ask her what is this about. She is Chinese ed, so we are ,Ike chicken and duck. But she sensed in my voice that I wasn't pleased with the thing she bought and at home, she unplugged it out from the electrical system. Immediately she called and mentioned that now her car starts up fine. Previously it was laggy like as if the battery was weak. So if you have 3rd party accessories, these will cause some kind of drain and will affect the buttery overtime. Curios what is your car model and make ? This post has been edited by Duckies: Oct 19 2025, 10:52 PM |
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 19 2025, 10:51 PM) Not exactly new, it's a 2018 2.0 Mazda CX-5 car. I only have a 70 mai front and back car dashcam that only operates when the car is started. Your'e in luck, there is a new CX5 that I am monitoring for my biggest client. Everything was OK at the beginning however the 2nd check showed that there was anomaly with the electrical system. Curious as to why this was happening to a new car, I went inside and notice newly installed were dashcam too. Immediately brought the issue to the owner and suggested that he reduce all the settings through the dashcam to minimize it's load. Upon the next test, then will know whether it was successful or otherwise. I have seen that the warranty for such dashcam is only 3 months as it was written on a receipt lately. So if your dashcam is more than 3 months already, let's assume it's out of warranty and the next test to be done is to confirm when the CX5 goes to sleep completely, is that any sign of parasitic draw onot. If there is, we have found the answer, otherwise we have to look at the charging system is it still efficient or inefficient already. My recommendation is to buy any vehicle with dashcam already pre installed before delivery. At least the installation, we presume would have been done according to the car manufacturer specifications for safety reasons After market accessories there is always risks involved and if insurance company comes to know about it, if there is any problems later like fire, they can deny the claim. Currently I have experienced couple of my clients vehicles with such dashcams, I am sure there is more to come. 1. Danny asked me initially batteries don't last these days as his EFB-M42L battery seemed to die about a year on average. At first I thought apa Hal pulak ni. Since it was done during the day and he assisting me, I didn't notice a dashcam inside. The next check when it was dark, that bloody dashcam rear mirror light up the entire cabin. KNN Gila ka ? Imagine the amount of load taken tho light up the inside cabin ? My recommendation to him was scrap that rear mirror dashcam and install one with minimal load. 2. My first client, younger sister bought a new Axia and everything was working as predicted. In May this year, she installed a dashcam without my knowledge and in June, I noticed the battery capacity had suddenly dropped drastically. Charging didn't help. My recommendation sell away that dashcam and install the same dashcam as my first client Myvi. I have no problems whatsoever with that Myvi. 3. Albert has the same huge rear mirror dashcam as Dannys so similar problem battery around 1 year. Nissan Almera. The new battery installed the Almera started right up nicely, no errors. However 2nd test revealed an anomaly in the system already. The feedback back in the morning, the first start seemed to dragged to longest but after that everything seems fine. Now this vehicle will need to spend a couple of days at the wireman to troubleshoot what is causing this peculiar problem. I am managing Albert wife X50 and it's working like clock work although it's 2 years old already. Her sister X50 lasted only 1 year but she had installed some power booster via the OBD port. Thank goodness that died when the battery started to degrade and I forbade her to install any power booster thing via the OBD and this week I will be Looking at her X50 again to ensure everything is within parameters. Now you see why I don't like after market items that not approved by the car manufacturer. Endless problems one. This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 20 2025, 01:48 AM |
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Oct 20 2025, 02:38 AM
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 19 2025, 05:09 AM) Better read the terms and conditions carefully when it's available later. Agreed for the term and conditions part. Why not 100%? Maybe some battery sizes are not available on this new brand. Its not exclusion for the car brand, power usage, special requirements etc2.I wonder what is the catch when the report mentioned it's suitable for 95% vehicles on the road only, not 100% ? Why it's not suitable for another 5% of vehicles ah ? Hmmm why got special exclusion, when it's reported superiority matching from RFB, EFB and even AGM battery ? Plus 3 years warranty isn't a big deal either as it's been offered by battery companies before too. It's sad that my Principal Co had to pull the plug on this battery from the market, bukan pasal SIRIM approved quality, but pasal dubious warranty claims. I wonder if Amaron distributors still has the 36 months warranty program running or Amaron distributors have decided to quietly remove the 36 months warranty too ? Kejap to be continued ... On Amaron 36 months, its T&C is not 100% 1-1 claim as normal warranty, just a rebates thingy. Not sure if it still running. |
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Oct 20 2025, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 19 2025, 10:03 PM) Century UltraMax was the 1st battery to come with a 36 month warranty however due to many dubious warranty claims, it had to be removed. Although I had not had the opportunity to use the Ultramax myself, I believe that the UltraMax would deliver. On the x70 parts, need to check, is it CBU, CKD model? Both use difference size of the battery, where CBU use much bigger battery. Rarely heard cbu owner complaint "short" battery life except the battery price.Anyways I wanted to share was a picture of the battery that was installed on 22/8/2025 with SoC 98% and SoH 100% and I had informed the owner that he needed to resolve an issue to avoid complications later on. Tiba tiba early morning almost 2 months later, he called to inform that the battery couldn't start the Hilux and said battery was defective. Went to inspect immediately found the battery had SoC 0% and SoH 23%. Tested the battery and it was good and immediately noticed that the owner did NOT DO ANYTHING despite being advised of the impending problem that would appear. Warranty claim denied on the spot. I wanted to post the picture of this case but the. computer says file too big to upload. Many a times what I have found is that the problem is not the battery but something else instead. That is why until today, I have not made any warranty claims yet because I distribute quality batteries only. No doubt if I started distributing lower quality batteries, yeah I believe there is a possibility of me making a warranty claim, which I refuse to do so. What amazes me is that dealers suka sukà submit warranty claim, dunno if they got really investigate what is the actual cause of the problem onot. Semua hantar balik distributor and distributor hantar balik factory. Macam takde kerja lain ka. Anyway back to a topic that we have in common now X70. Relative got this new vehicle less than 2 years ago and the both batteries had failed to even 1 year. When the stock battery was replaced by the SC, he had called me and I went over to check the battery replacement, I informed his wife that the battery did not pass the tests. But the wife informed that SC says everything a OK. So I left it at that. But what I terkejut is when buka engine cover etc battery size had shrink from DIN75 keta awal awal sampai DIN55 keta sekarang. Comelnya tapi boleh tahan ke ? Fast foward 3 months later, the replacement battery died as predicted and he called me for battery replacement. Now I am begining to doubt how on earth can a modern car full of electronics came with DIN75 initially but now battery size have shrunk to DIN55. Nak modify battery tray to put inside DIN75 inside also cannot. Yeah I remember you mentioned that yours was NS70LS right but now it's even smaller DIN55. Gila ka ? Dunno in the future they will put Kancil NS40ZL inside onot ? I suspect very soon battery companies will have to start reviewing their battery warranty for certain model, especially when high number of warranty claims starts coming in. I believe too that Sodium ka Lithium ka, they will have to review their T&C when warranty claims naik mendadak. On CKD 1.8T, which I believe use the similar alternator as CBU, Proton did use a smaller size of the battery, 85D26L originally. And most will upgrade it to 95D26L after change to new battery. By this, most can last easily above 18 month, hence certain brand put 18 month warranty. While last x70 ckd 1.5T, or x50 1.5T prefacelift, many owner kene with the alternator issue, yeah can claim warranty. So need to check for alternator more for 1.5T 3 cylinders engine cz its alternator is totally different than above |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 20 2025, 02:52 AM) On the x70 parts, need to check, is it CBU, CKD model? Both use difference size of the battery, where CBU use much bigger battery. Rarely heard cbu owner complaint "short" battery life except the battery price. It's inevitable, a smaller battery will run out of juice very fast and that is going to strain the alternator until it dies, no matter what. Buyers are going to be screwed with the latest model because I sincerely believe even if there is a warranty claim within 3 years, as that is the official warranty period for electrical components, they are still stuck with an undersized battery and it's going to kill the reconditioned alternator that's provided. If my relative had asked me for opinion before placing an order, I sure won't encourage him to place an order. I will have to try to figure out something whether there is sufficient space for a bigger battery to enter onot. If cannot fit, it's best he sells it off quickly before the alternator gives way. This vehicle I can see the problems coming my way liao.On CKD 1.8T, which I believe use the similar alternator as CBU, Proton did use a smaller size of the battery, 85D26L originally. And most will upgrade it to 95D26L after change to new battery. By this, most can last easily above 18 month, hence certain brand put 18 month warranty. While last x70 ckd 1.5T, or x50 1.5T prefacelift, many owner kene with the alternator issue, yeah can claim warranty. So need to check for alternator more for 1.5T 3 cylinders engine cz its alternator is totally different than above While my relative charging system is within parameters at the moment when the battery replacement was made, I doubt it is going to hold out. I am seeing too many cases of alternator failures and it would be a miracle if my relative alternator does not fail within 5 years of ownership. I wonder what were they thinking of when they designed the latest model using a much smaller battery. Takkan they dunno that the problems will happen ? Or they figured that it's OK to put in a smaller battery because that will SAVE owners money by reducing the costs of maintenance ? Besides that we will just explain to the owners that modem cars these days, batteries must change every year one ??? Ini semua apa cerita ??? Tak masuk akal langsung. This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 20 2025, 08:47 AM |
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 20 2025, 01:46 AM) Your'e in luck, there is a new CX5 that I am monitoring for my biggest client. Everything was OK at the beginning however the 2nd check showed that there was anomaly with the electrical system. Curious as to why this was happening to a new car, I went inside and notice newly installed were dashcam too. Hmm.. Standard dash cam from 70 mai should be ok kot since so many using. Didn't tap/connect into the fuse box also.Immediately brought the issue to the owner and suggested that he reduce all the settings through the dashcam to minimize it's load. Upon the next test, then will know whether it was successful or otherwise. I have seen that the warranty for such dashcam is only 3 months as it was written on a receipt lately. So if your dashcam is more than 3 months already, let's assume it's out of warranty and the next test to be done is to confirm when the CX5 goes to sleep completely, is that any sign of parasitic draw onot. If there is, we have found the answer, otherwise we have to look at the charging system is it still efficient or inefficient already. My recommendation is to buy any vehicle with dashcam already pre installed before delivery. At least the installation, we presume would have been done according to the car manufacturer specifications for safety reasons After market accessories there is always risks involved and if insurance company comes to know about it, if there is any problems later like fire, they can deny the claim. Currently I have experienced couple of my clients vehicles with such dashcams, I am sure there is more to come. 1. Danny asked me initially batteries don't last these days as his EFB-M42L battery seemed to die about a year on average. At first I thought apa Hal pulak ni. Since it was done during the day and he assisting me, I didn't notice a dashcam inside. The next check when it was dark, that bloody dashcam rear mirror light up the entire cabin. KNN Gila ka ? Imagine the amount of load taken tho light up the inside cabin ? My recommendation to him was scrap that rear mirror dashcam and install one with minimal load. 2. My first client, younger sister bought a new Axia and everything was working as predicted. In May this year, she installed a dashcam without my knowledge and in June, I noticed the battery capacity had suddenly dropped drastically. Charging didn't help. My recommendation sell away that dashcam and install the same dashcam as my first client Myvi. I have no problems whatsoever with that Myvi. 3. Albert has the same huge rear mirror dashcam as Dannys so similar problem battery around 1 year. Nissan Almera. The new battery installed the Almera started right up nicely, no errors. However 2nd test revealed an anomaly in the system already. The feedback back in the morning, the first start seemed to dragged to longest but after that everything seems fine. Now this vehicle will need to spend a couple of days at the wireman to troubleshoot what is causing this peculiar problem. I am managing Albert wife X50 and it's working like clock work although it's 2 years old already. Her sister X50 lasted only 1 year but she had installed some power booster via the OBD port. Thank goodness that died when the battery started to degrade and I forbade her to install any power booster thing via the OBD and this week I will be Looking at her X50 again to ensure everything is within parameters. Now you see why I don't like after market items that not approved by the car manufacturer. Endless problems one. |
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 20 2025, 07:38 AM) It's inevitable, a smaller battery will run out of juice very fast and that is going to strain the alternator until it dies, no matter what. Buyers are going to be screwed with the latest model because I sincerely believe even if there is a warranty claim within 3 years, as that is the official warranty period for electrical components, they are still stuck with an undersized battery and it's going to kill the reconditioned alternator that's provided. If my relative had asked me for opinion before placing an order, I sure won't encourage him to place an order. I will have to try to figure out something whether there is sufficient space for a bigger battery to enter onot. If cannot fit, it's best he sells it off quickly before the alternator gives way. This vehicle I can see the problems coming my way liao. Saw on 1.5T 3 cylinders engine, most kene with Alternator issues where the pulley kinda the main culprit after sometimes. Got plenty of outside workshop able to replace that pulley inside the alternator and it will work great back. As I mentioned, weirdly only happen to 1.5T 3 cylinders engine only for the alternator. After repair that, no more premature battery deathWhile my relative charging system is within parameters at the moment when the battery replacement was made, I doubt it is going to hold out. I am seeing too many cases of alternator failures and it would be a miracle if my relative alternator does not fail within 5 years of ownership. I wonder what were they thinking of when they designed the latest model using a much smaller battery. Takkan they dunno that the problems will happen ? Or they figured that it's OK to put in a smaller battery because that will SAVE owners money by reducing the costs of maintenance ? Besides that we will just explain to the owners that modem cars these days, batteries must change every year one ??? Ini semua apa cerita ??? Tak masuk akal langsung. |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 20 2025, 12:15 PM) Saw on 1.5T 3 cylinders engine, most kene with Alternator issues where the pulley kinda the main culprit after sometimes. Got plenty of outside workshop able to replace that pulley inside the alternator and it will work great back. As I mentioned, weirdly only happen to 1.5T 3 cylinders engine only for the alternator. After repair that, no more premature battery death Good info as currently im the owner of x50 1.5t 3 cyclinders, so i have to be aware of this 🕯️🔥😀👍 |
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interesting new 12v starter battery using sodium ion in the market.....TS might want to find out more if got the chance.... im pretty curious of it and am probably going to try it when my current battery dies out next year or the year after This post has been edited by wkc5657: Oct 21 2025, 04:55 PM |
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 21 2025, 04:54 PM) https://soyacincau.com/2025/10/17/aeson-pow...a-launch-price/ I have made plans to upgrade to an AGM battery for my next battery replacement already. As for sodium battery, I will need to investigate more about it. interesting new 12v starter battery using sodium ion in the market.....TS might want to find out more if got the chance.... im pretty curious of it and am probably going to try it when my current battery dies out next year or the year after Since you are going to try it, may I know what is your vehicle make and model ? ayamxxx liked this post
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 21 2025, 04:54 PM) https://soyacincau.com/2025/10/17/aeson-pow...a-launch-price/ I have made plans to upgrade to an AGM battery for my next battery replacement already. As for sodium battery, I will need to investigate more about it. interesting new 12v starter battery using sodium ion in the market.....TS might want to find out more if got the chance.... im pretty curious of it and am probably going to try it when my current battery dies out next year or the year after Since you are going to try it, may I know what is your vehicle make and model ? How did I miss this Sodium Ion Battery warranty is only 2 yeas but one may extend it to 3 years by adding Rm20 ~ Rm70 depending on the battery model. This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Oct 21 2025, 05:28 PM |
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 21 2025, 04:54 PM) https://soyacincau.com/2025/10/17/aeson-pow...a-launch-price/ What do you think bout the price of sodium ion battery?interesting new 12v starter battery using sodium ion in the market.....TS might want to find out more if got the chance.... im pretty curious of it and am probably going to try it when my current battery dies out next year or the year after |
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 23 2025, 03:56 PM) So fast already sell thru lazada, well will check those battery tonight, just incase later i might change to this sodium ion battery The ad just popped up in my phone. Once there is an official launch of a new battery already, always assume that there are more similar batteries to come very soon. Takkan factory produce just 1 Sodium Ion Battery for 1 brand only. Surely got others too, unless the order from that 1 brand alone is so big, that the factory cannot even fulfil the order. |
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 23 2025, 04:01 PM) The ad just popped up in my phone. Once there is an official launch of a new battery already, always assume that there are more similar batteries to come very soon. Takkan factory produce just 1 Sodium Ion Battery for 1 brand only. Surely got others too, unless the order from that 1 brand alone is so big, that the factory cannot even fulfil the order. Yea, surely got lots of brand produce it, by then we will see price war among them, so consumers will get the benefits and plenty of brands to choose from 🐝 |
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 21 2025, 05:26 PM) I have made plans to upgrade to an AGM battery for my next battery replacement already. As for sodium battery, I will need to investigate more about it. mazda 3 bmSince you are going to try it, may I know what is your vehicle make and model ? How did I miss this Sodium Ion Battery warranty is only 2 yeas but one may extend it to 3 years by adding Rm20 ~ Rm70 depending on the battery model. |
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