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post Oct 13 2025, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 13 2025, 06:37 PM)
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If true, its the best battery I ever had. Inb4 4 years with Panasonic MF battery without put any charger etc
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If it’s true i would go for panasonic battery after this, hope they will bring low maintenance variant to our market
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post Oct 13 2025, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 13 2025, 06:37 PM)
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If true, its the best battery I ever had. Inb4 4 years with Panasonic MF battery without put any charger etc
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How come this Panasonic CAOS battery looks so different from the Panasonic CAOS battery that I see in Japan ?
Another question, why is part of the picture pixelated ?

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post Oct 13 2025, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 13 2025, 08:01 PM)
How come this Panasonic CAOS battery looks so different from the Panasonic CAOS battery that I see in Japan ?
Another question, why is part of the picture pixelated ?
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Pixelated maybe due to bar code etc. If it comes on market, will opted for this
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post Oct 13 2025, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 13 2025, 08:05 PM)
Pixelated maybe due to bar code etc. If it comes on market, will opted for this
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If it's the original Panasonic CAOS Battery that is really Made in Japan can but shipping batteries all the way from Japan will add substantially to it's final selling price. There was a company who started importing Panasonic CAOS Batteries immediately the moment the production of Panasonic Batteries in Malaysia was terminated but with harga Yahudi, I am not sure what happened to that company eventually.
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post Oct 14 2025, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 13 2025, 08:11 PM)
If it's the original Panasonic CAOS Battery that is really Made in Japan can but shipping batteries all the way from Japan will add substantially to it's final selling price. There was a company who started importing Panasonic CAOS Batteries immediately the moment the production of Panasonic Batteries in Malaysia was terminated but with harga Yahudi, I am not sure what happened to that company eventually.
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The cost price getting very high and less demand i guess, so that company also stop importing the panasonic batteries for car
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post Oct 14 2025, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 14 2025, 04:53 PM)
The cost price getting very high and less demand i guess, so that company also stop importing the panasonic batteries for car
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Yes I think that was what happened to that company. Last time went online, ini out-of-stock, Itu out-of-stock. Aiyoyo.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 14 2025, 07:41 PM)
Yes I think that was what happened to that company. Last time went online, ini out-of-stock, Itu out-of-stock. Aiyoyo.
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Once you sell at ridiculous price, you won't last long in the business, of course need a profit but return customers very important plus a trust from customers also one of the key to success
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post Oct 16 2025, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 14 2025, 08:00 PM)
Once you sell at ridiculous price, you won't last long in the business, of course need a profit but return customers very important plus a trust from customers also one of the key to success
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I don't know the costs of shipping from Japan to here, but assuming the company didn't mark-up on shipping charges, the shipping costs plus all other associated fees, I presume would surely push the final selling price for each battery. What I would consider utterly ridiculous would be, if these imported Made in Japan batteries CANNOT even match what my clients are getting out of our batteries. At those prices, these imported batteries have to be far superior and where superior is concerned, there is also added extra costs. For example a better quality battery will always costs more than a lower quality, although it's made in the same factory.

Very true, return customers is very important but being a sob distributor myself, I will drop any clients who goes against me for stupid reasons. Clients only have 1 chance with me. I don't give many chances because that will bring more trouble for me to solve. It looks like I am limiting my business but for me, success means being able to educate my clients properly and when they have achieved the results, then I will have repeat orders.
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post Oct 16 2025, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 16 2025, 08:42 AM)
I don't know the costs of shipping from Japan to here, but assuming the company didn't mark-up on shipping charges, the shipping costs plus all other associated fees, I presume would surely push the final selling price for each battery. What I would consider utterly ridiculous would be, if these imported Made in Japan batteries CANNOT even match what my clients are getting out of our batteries. At those prices, these imported batteries have to be far superior and where superior is concerned, there is also added extra costs. For example a better quality battery will always costs more than a lower quality, although it's made in the same factory.

Very true, return customers is very important but being a sob distributor myself, I will drop any clients who goes against me for stupid reasons. Clients only have 1 chance with me. I don't give many chances because that will bring more trouble for me to solve. It looks like I am limiting my business but for me, success means being able to educate my clients properly and when they have achieved the results, then I will have repeat orders.
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That's very true, limiting your client for a quality results, not worth entertaining problematic one in the end didn't achieve anything, respect that
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post Oct 16 2025, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 4 2025, 07:58 PM)
The car does not have any issues. But more like little annoyance. Like when the AC kicks in the headlight will dim and glow bright gradually.
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Sorry to quote old replies.

I'm not qualified nor has sufficient knowledge on this matter. Just stating my observation, usually this happen to local and japanese cars. i.e. at the red light, can observe their brake light/headlights getting slightly dimmer and brighter cyclically.

I've seen it happen to some P1, P2, H and T brand cars. Yet to notice it on continental cars (even the old ones don't really exhibit this phenomenon), I guess it has something to do with how they designed the car's electrical system. Might not be something that can be easily solved with aftermarket modifications.

On more recent iteration of these cars, most of them have full LED lights all round already, hardly notice hmm.gif
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post Oct 17 2025, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Oct 16 2025, 04:20 PM)
Sorry to quote old replies.

I'm not qualified nor has sufficient knowledge on this matter. Just stating my observation, usually this happen to local and japanese cars. i.e. at the red light, can observe their brake light/headlights getting slightly dimmer and brighter cyclically.

I've seen it happen to some P1, P2, H and T brand cars. Yet to notice it on continental cars (even the old ones don't really exhibit this phenomenon), I guess it has something to do with how they designed the car's electrical system. Might not be something that can be easily solved with aftermarket modifications.

On more recent iteration of these cars, most of them have full LED lights all round already, hardly notice  hmm.gif
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What kind of age ranges of these cars with electrical system issues that is being referred to ?
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post Oct 17 2025, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 17 2025, 08:22 AM)
What kind of age ranges of these cars with electrical system issues that is being referred to ?
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From my observation, 5 years++. More obvious ones, just keep an eye out for Myvi, Bezza, Axia at night while stationery and idling.

It's not like a huge difference whereby the brightness suddenly reduce by 50%, but noticeable that it is not constant.
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post Oct 17 2025, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Oct 17 2025, 09:25 AM)
From my observation, 5 years++. More obvious ones, just keep an eye out for Myvi, Bezza, Axia at night while stationery and idling.

It's not like a huge difference whereby the brightness suddenly reduce by 50%, but noticeable that it is not constant.
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Your eyesight must be fuckin sharp bro. I don't even look directly into headlights nowadays and there you are easily staring into them. Wish I had eyesight like yours.

Anyway thank you for your observation and I will bring this issue up between my clients with those vehicles and let's see what crops up.

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post Oct 17 2025, 01:47 PM

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Anyone that familiar with sodium-ion battery? Better than lead acid battery?

Aeson Power launches automotive Sodium-Ion batteries in Malaysia. Longer lasting up to 3,000 cycles, backed by up to 3-year warranty
https://soyacincau.com/2025/10/17/aeson-pow...a-launch-price/
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Oct 17 2025, 09:57 AM)
Your eyesight must be fuckin sharp bro. I don't even look directly into headlights nowadays and there you are easily staring into them. Wish I had eyesight like yours.

Anyway thank you for your observation and I will bring this issue up between my clients with those vehicles and let's see what crops up.
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Hahaha, I don't really look into the headlights directly, will go blind. Unless from inside the cabin sweat.gif

Looking at rear brake lights at night is easier to spot (Traffic light/traffic jam). Not sure is it because high current draw (headlamps 55w, fog lights, radio, brake lights etc), when the ac pump switch on and off might have contributed to that. But so many of these cars OTR, and people around me usually cite them as reliable cars, likely not a functional/reliability issue.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Oct 17 2025, 01:47 PM)
Anyone that familiar with sodium-ion battery? Better than lead acid battery?

Aeson Power launches automotive Sodium-Ion batteries in Malaysia. Longer lasting up to 3,000 cycles, backed by up to 3-year warranty
https://soyacincau.com/2025/10/17/aeson-pow...a-launch-price/
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will eyeing this if so straightforward warranty on power eating battery, X70. 3 years warranty at ok price
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post Oct 17 2025, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Oct 17 2025, 01:47 PM)
Anyone that familiar with sodium-ion battery? Better than lead acid battery?

Aeson Power launches automotive Sodium-Ion batteries in Malaysia. Longer lasting up to 3,000 cycles, backed by up to 3-year warranty
https://soyacincau.com/2025/10/17/aeson-pow...a-launch-price/
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73% lighter, good for the car.. Currently using 80D26L, so i wonder how much does it cost for this new brand, im willing to pay extra rm20-30 for extended warranty, total 3 years

Since my car also kuat makan battery, the most can last 2 years 2 month 10 days, so the chances very high for me to claim the warranty πŸ˜…
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post Oct 17 2025, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 17 2025, 03:50 PM)
73% lighter, good for the car.. Currently using 80D26L, so i wonder how much does it cost for this new brand, im willing to pay extra rm20-30 for extended warranty, total 3 years

Since my car also kuat makan battery, the most can last 2 years 2 month 10 days, so the chances very high for me to claim the warranty πŸ˜…
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For my NS60, it is RM389. My recent Century MF is around half the price~. (online purchase)
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Oct 17 2025, 04:34 PM)
For my NS60, it is RM389. My recent Century MF is around half the price~. (online purchase)
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My NS70L @ 80D26L cost around rm348, bought on 30th September 2025

Meamwhile this newly introduced battery rm529, oh wow thats expensive

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post Oct 17 2025, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Oct 17 2025, 01:47 PM)
Anyone that familiar with sodium-ion battery? Better than lead acid battery?

Aeson Power launches automotive Sodium-Ion batteries in Malaysia. Longer lasting up to 3,000 cycles, backed by up to 3-year warranty
https://soyacincau.com/2025/10/17/aeson-pow...a-launch-price/
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Interesting.

I wonder ...

A) Will car manufacturers begin void warranty on their vehicles because a different battery was used instead of a lead acid battery ?
B) Which battery tester has the capability to test Sodium Batteries ?
C) Where does Sodium Battery sit in between AGM Batt, EFB Batt & RFB Battery in terms of superiority ?

Correction on the article which kind of imply indirectly that lead acid batteries causes fire. While lead acid batteries will explode under specific condition but that explosion will NEVER cause any fire.

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