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post Oct 20 2023, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 20 2023, 04:10 PM)
this is the parental controls page from Deco HC4. I just took the screenshot from my neighbour.
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post Oct 20 2023, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ Oct 19 2023, 02:06 PM)
Most entry level enterprise router based on the same chipset on consumer based nowdays.
Same MTK or Qualcomm or Broadcomm based chipset,but the difference was on the software running on these hardware.
With fancy software, you could run services like PPPOE server or macvlan just to name..not available on consumer based router.
For me, just build your network depending with your goal, go for AIO consumer based solution or SMB dedicated router/POE switches/AP setup.
Im a mikrotik user myself,with AIO router wifi for my house..only 3 wifi devices and a desktop pc. I dont need high end router and not running any services on my LAN,only wireguard and DOH.
Good enough for me.
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Mikrotik Hap ax3 is 600ish
U6 pro 800+
Omada eap670 700 ish

Tplink xe95 also rm800+ each

Nowadays things are not cheap 🥲

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post Oct 20 2023, 05:29 PM


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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Oct 20 2023, 04:41 PM)
"kristy"? inb4 @raynman is your neighbour
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post Oct 20 2023, 06:44 PM

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Hi.

Is anyone using ASUS AX56u or D-Link Dir 1860Z and managed to hit 500mbps on WiFi? Just got upgraded from 300 to 500.

Managed to get 500mbps wired, but only 200-300mbps on WiFi. Already reset, use Merlin, try all channels, 80mhz, only wifi 5, only wifi 6, change ssid, change password, still the same.

Using 14 pro max and late 2016 MacBook Pro.

Should I call tm or just accept my reality?
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post Oct 20 2023, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(hasifhanif @ Oct 20 2023, 06:44 PM)
Hi.

Is anyone using ASUS AX56u or D-Link Dir 1860Z and managed to hit 500mbps on WiFi? Just got upgraded from 300 to 500.

Managed to get 500mbps wired, but only 200-300mbps on WiFi. Already reset, use Merlin, try all channels, 80mhz, only wifi 5, only wifi 6, change ssid, change password, still the same.

Using 14 pro max and late 2016 MacBook Pro.

Should I call tm or just accept my reality?
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3004.388.4 (21-Aug-2023)
- NOTE: In preparation for the new 3.0.0.6 codebase, the version string will now start with 3004 or 3006 to match with upstream.
- NOTE: The RT-AX56U is no longer supported, as Asus has put it on End-of-Life status, and the previous Asuswrt-Merlin 388 releases for that model were all based on untested code.


Oof assus not up to task this time for router support. Ax56u is already discontinued support. I thought can support many years kan lol
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post Oct 20 2023, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Oct 20 2023, 05:06 PM)
Mikrotik Hap ax3 is 600ish
U6 pro 800+
Omada eap670 700 ish

Tplink xe95 also rm800+ each

Nowadays things are not cheap 🥲
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Not to mention, obscene price of ruckus AP brows.gif
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post Oct 20 2023, 08:21 PM

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What's the best router to use with a Yoodo unlimited sim?
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post Oct 21 2023, 12:21 AM


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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Oct 20 2023, 04:41 PM)
"kristy"? inb4 @raynman is your neighbour
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Sheet, unker raynman got suspended. Hope it's not permanent.

But the HC4, for its price, has really quite good features. TPLink Deco app also not bad. wifi performance also boleh tahan.
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post Oct 21 2023, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 21 2023, 12:21 AM)
Sheet, unker raynman got suspended. Hope it's not permanent.

But the HC4, for its price, has really quite good features. TPLink Deco app also not bad. wifi performance also boleh tahan.
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with the frequent complaint about other mesh systems - stability, expandability, ... - Deco is actually very solid eventhough lacking advanced customisations. Really meants for plug-and-play no-fuss consumers.

But I'm phasing them out anyway. I lost trust over the half-baked half-gigabit speed of M9 Plus. And I want greater/advanced control over wifi options, which Deco retained to much control under the hood. I don't have replacement candidate though.
Both premises are using the mesh routers provided by ISP, either standalone (Unifi) or mesh (Maxis).

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Oct 21 2023, 12:29 AM)
with the frequent complaint about other mesh systems - stability, expandability, ... - Deco is actually very solid eventhough lacking advanced customisations. Really meants for plug-and-play no-fuss consumers.

But I'm phasing them out anyway. I lost trust over the half-baked half-gigabit speed of M9 Plus. And I want greater/advanced control over wifi options, which Deco retained to much control under the hood. I don't have replacement candidate though.
Both premises are using the mesh routers provided by ISP, either standalone (Unifi) or mesh (Maxis).
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maybe you are considering asus ai mesh? but zenwifi i feel like its anak tiri (stepchild) lineup from asus in terms of software support anyway compared with normal RT / GT / TUF router series. maybe better to use 2 or 3 of such normal router instead as ai mesh is still much more flexible to setup and more configurations open for user
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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Oct 21 2023, 09:01 AM)
maybe you are considering asus ai mesh? but zenwifi i feel like its anak tiri (stepchild) lineup from asus in terms of software support anyway compared with normal RT / GT / TUF router series. maybe better to use 2 or 3 of such normal router instead as ai mesh is still much more flexible to setup and more configurations open for user
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i only decided to phase out deco m9 plus, but haven't even think of what to replace it with.

not only i found its ethernet lacking, i now remember that when i deploy smartlife devices around the house, even with 4 nodes deco m9 plus, the automation devices keep going offline after some time and never return. penat nak reset deco mesh, then off electric MCB from section to section just to get them to come back online. i have no issue after i switch them to use the maxis' huawei mesh nodes.

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Oct 21 2023, 09:25 AM)
i only decided to phase out deco m9 plus, but haven't even think of what to replace it with.

not only i found its ethernet lacking, i now remember that when i deploy smartlife devices around the house, even with 4 nodes deco m9 plus, the automation devices keep going offline after some time and never return. penat nak reset deco mesh, then off electric MCB from section to section just to get them to come back online. i have no issue after i switch them to use the maxis' huawei mesh nodes.
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I also quite dissatisfied with my home deco m4 system since i got in 2020 11.11 sales. Not only deco got a lot of settings forced like one ssid smart connect settings/wifi channel/bandwidth without able to manually adjustable , but sometimes software can also bugged out in certain firmware update cause speed to become too slow for surf some sites like shopee etc. Although tp link software support is still decent in fixing the bugs with hotfixes (they call beta firmware as interim hotfixes)

Deco m4 is good for 100mbps in fully wireless backhaul. 300mbps is only attainable for whole home with wired backhaul

The problem prevents me from going asus ai mesh is obviously cost. Around 2-3 times more expensive compared to similar class equivalent from other brands due to assus tax here by official distributor


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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Oct 21 2023, 09:31 AM)
I also quite dissatisfied with my home deco m4 system since i got in 2020 11.11 sales. Not only deco got a lot of settings forced like one ssid smart connect settings/wifi channel/bandwidth without able to manually adjustable , but sometimes software can also bugged out in certain firmware update cause speed to become too slow for surf some sites like shopee etc. Although tp link software support is still decent in fixing the bugs with hotfixes (they call beta firmware as interim hotfixes)

Deco m4 is good for 100mbps in fully wireless backhaul. 300mbps is only attainable for whole home with wired backhaul

The problem prevents me from going asus ai mesh is obviously cost. Around 2-3 times more expensive compared to similar class equivalent from other brands due to assus tax here by official distributor
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from reading complaints about aimesh in here, it gives impression that • cobbling different models together at start is error prone and need patience, and • continued use after initial set up is unstable.
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Oct 21 2023, 09:56 AM)
from reading complaints about aimesh in here, it gives impression that • cobbling different models together at start is error prone and need patience, and • continued use after initial set up is unstable.
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That's why tp link is promoting deco lineup with "REAL MESH" in the product listing/ads. The so called "AI driven" mesh protocol is still much more mature than any other mesh protocol including aimesh/easymesh/whatever with fast roaming as a bonus. Other normal mesh just k/v, deco mesh comes with extra of k/v/r protocol (r means fast roaming of course)

So that's why my next upgrade will be still from tp link deco lineup. I am now eying for at least X50 model in the next payday/11.11 promo because X50 seems like the sweet spots for me (and may consider combine with X68 because of dedicated wireless backhaul depending on budget at that sales time)
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 20 2023, 04:10 PM)
Not sure if it fulfills all your requirements but this is the parental controls page from Deco HC4. I just took the screenshot from my neighbour. I don't actually use the HC4.
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Any Mikrotik can do it but will require a bit of configuration. Their kid-control feature:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Kid-control
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Look general
Wish can look config inside
But look like they dont block any web/app coz none is shown there
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Oct 21 2023, 12:28 PM)
Look general
Wish can look config inside
But look like they dont block any web/app coz none is shown there
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What your asking for,to block certain apps etc,most probably not invented yet.
Maybe you need enterprise DPI harware to control your kids internet usage.

Most router only restrict time based and using block list of dns type.
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Oct 21 2023, 12:28 PM)
Look general
Wish can look config inside
But look like they dont block any web/app coz none is shown there
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Can have a look here. https://www.tp-link.com/my/support/faq/1598/

Looks like:

1. Blocking via device MAC address.
2. Filtered Content - looks like DNS blocklist and/or IP block
3. Blocked Content - looks like DNS blocklist and/or IP block

I think OK lah for casual use. What's your target? If teens then they'll probably bypass in no time. I'm sure one of their friends in school is a hacker.

1. MAC address can be changed/spoofed easily. eg: Private MAC address already built-in to most OS.
2. DNS blocks will depend on whomever is maintaining the blocklist whether it's TPLink or one of those public blocklists.
3. DNS blocks can be bypassed by using alternative URLs.
4. DNS blocks can be bypassed by using external DNS or encryption like DOH(TTPS), DOT(TL), DOQ(UIC), etc...
5. IP a bit difficult to get all. eg: Youtube uses thousands of IP addresses.
6. VPN bypasses all unless you block the VPN.

Block web or app is the same. Need to block URL or IP.

Probably easier to use PC's or phone's parental control feature. Bypass by having secret 2nd device. devil.gif

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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ Oct 21 2023, 01:55 PM)
What your asking for,to block certain apps etc,most probably not invented yet.
Maybe you need enterprise DPI harware to control your kids internet usage.

Most router only restrict time based and using block list of dns type.
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Oct 21 2023, 02:43 PM)
Can have a look here. https://www.tp-link.com/my/support/faq/1598/

Looks like:

1. Blocking via device MAC address.
2. Filtered Content - looks like DNS blocklist and/or IP block
3. Blocked Content - looks like DNS blocklist and/or IP block

I think OK lah for casual use. What's your target? If teens then they'll probably bypass in no time. I'm sure one of their friends in school is a hacker.

1. MAC address can be changed/spoofed easily. eg: Private MAC address already built-in to most OS.
2. DNS blocks will depend on whomever is maintaining the blocklist whether it's TPLink or one of those public blocklists.
3. DNS blocks can be bypassed by using alternative URLs.
4. DNS blocks can be bypassed by using external DNS or encryption like DOH(TTPS), DOT(TL), DOQ(UIC), etc... 
5. IP a bit difficult to get all. eg: Youtube uses thousands of IP addresses.
6. VPN bypasses all unless you block the VPN.

Block web or app is the same. Need to block URL or IP.

Probably easier to use PC's or phone's parental control feature. Bypass by having secret 2nd device.
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I think will give a try with tplink router
My current tenda got weird blocking action
I set at certain time but it block whole day
Router time aldy sync with internet time

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