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post May 31 2007, 11:42 AM, updated 19y ago

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2007 FIA FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
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N�‹ Driver TEAM CONSTRUCTOR

1 Fernando ALONSO (E) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB)

3 Giancarlo FISICHELLA (I) ING RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
4 Heikki KOVALAINEN (FIN)

5 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
6 Kimi RAIKKONEN (FIN)

7 Jenson BUTTON (GB) HONDA RACING F1 TEAM HONDA
8 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR)

9 Nick HEIDFELD (D) BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM BMW
10 Robert KUBICA (PL)

11 Ralf SCHUMACHER (D) PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING TOYOTA
12 Jarno TRULLI (I)

14 David COULTHARD (GB) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
15 Mark WEBBER (AUS)

16 Nico ROSBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS TOYOTA
17 Alex WURZ (A)

18 Scott Speed SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
19 Vintonio Luizzi

20 Christijan ALBERS (NL) SPYKER F1 TEAM SPYKER FERRARI
21 Adrian SUTIL

22 Takuma SATO (J) SUPER AGURI F1 TEAM SUPER AGURI HONDA
23 Anthony DAVIDSON (GB)

RACE CALENDER

Times are Local (left side) and GMT (Right Side)
CODE
1 ?ING Australian Grand Prix                    Australian GP      Albert Park Grand Prix Circuit Melbourne       18 March     14:00      03:00   RTM LIVE
2 ?Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix                Malaysian GP       Sepang International Circuit   Kuala Lumpur    08 April     15:00      07:00    RTM LIVE
3 ?Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix                  Bahrain GP         Bahrain International Circuit  Sakhir, Manama  15 April     14:30      11:30    RTM Delayed
4 ?Gran Premio Telefonica de Espana             Spanish GP         Circuit de Catalunya           Barcelona       13 May       14:00      12:00    RTM Delayed
5 ?Grand Prix de Monaco                         Monaco GP          Circuit de Monaco              Monte-Carlo     27 May       14:00      12:00    RTM Delayed
6 ?Grand Prix du Canada                         Canadian GP        Circuit Gilles Villeneuve      Montreal        10 June      13:00      17:00    RTM Live
7 ?United States Grand Prix                     United States GP   Indianapolis Motor Speedway    Indianapolis    17 June      13:00      17:00    RTM Live
8 ?Grand Prix de France                         French GP          Circuit de Nevers              Magny-Cours     01 July      14:00      12:00    RTM Delayed
9 ?British Grand Prix                           British GP         Silverstone Circuit            Silverstone     08 July      13:00      12:00    RTM Delayed
10 ?Grosser Mobil 1 Preis von Deutschland       German GP          Nurburgring                    Nurburg         22 July      14:00      12:00    RTM Delayed
11 ?Magyar Nagydij                              Hungarian GP       Hungaroring                    Budapest        05 August    14:00      12:00    RTM Delayed
12 ?Petrol Ofisi Turkish Grand Prix             Turkish GP         Istanbul Park                  Istanbul        26 August    15:00      12:00    RTM Delayed
13 ?Gran Premio Vodafone d'Italia               Italian GP         Autodromo Nazionale Monza      Monza           09 September 14:00      12:00    RTM Delayed
14 ?ING Belgian Grand Prix                      Belgian GP         Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps   Spa             16 September 14:00      12:00    RTM Delayed
15 ?Fuji Television Japanese Grand Prix         Japanese GP        Fuji Speedway                  Mount Fuji      30 September 14:00      05:00    RTM LIVE
16 ?Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix                  Chinese GP         Shanghai International Circuit Shanghai        07 October   14:00      06:00    RTM LIVE
17 ?Grande Premio do Brasil                     Brazilian GP       Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace     Sao Paulo       21 October   14:00      16:00    RTM LIVE



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post May 31 2007, 11:44 AM

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go go hamilton...i support the rookie flex.gif

on a serious note, he may be a rookie but has a lot of driving experience; got a good break coming into mclaren

hope he keeps up the good work rclxms.gif

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post May 31 2007, 12:12 PM

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Super Aguri make big improvement this season,they beat world champion(Renault) at Catalunya
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Dude, if you use a car that won a grand prix last season, they should have done A LOT better. IMO, davidson is a let down this season. I was hoping for him to consistently score top 8 finishes, looking at the car and his potential 2 years ago
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post May 31 2007, 02:59 PM

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TS should add one more timing besides GMT and Local - RTM f***ing late delayed time
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post May 31 2007, 03:21 PM

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Will RTM be showing the replay instead of live this coming race? I mean the gp is starting past midnight local time right?

Btw, reporting in for the new thread.
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Asia/American races will be shown live, which is Canada, Brazil, USA, Japan and China
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post May 31 2007, 05:05 PM

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whichever race that take part in Europe tend to clash wif rtm so called prime time.. so they will be delayed 5 hours
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i don RTM will show live lar... only delayed nia... even got ING broadcast sponsor, its juz secondary broadcast sponsor nia...
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No, RTM will show races that does not clashes with prime time live. They said that there will be 7 live races and 10 delayed, the live races are
-Australia
-Malaysia
-Canada
-USA
-Japan
-China
-Brazil

And where the hell is the mods here when we need one to pin this topic?
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So pity that we cannot see all the races Live on rtm2.. Totally not satisfied..
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QUOTE(young_soul @ May 31 2007, 08:28 PM)
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yes, and? I don't think I posted his as an arabic or anything
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post May 31 2007, 10:33 PM

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FIA deny being influenced by media outrage
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The FIA have denied that they were pressurised into launching their much-derided investigation into McLaren's 'team strategy' at the Monaco GP by the hysterical post-race reaction of the British media.


As expected, the governing body have cleared McLaren of any wrongdoing during Sunday's procession, declaring in a statement that the team's request to Lewis Hamilton to 'cool it' was "entirely legitimate".


According to some bemused personnel in the paddock, the probe was launched purely as a consequence of the vehement criticism of McLaren by the British press. The Daily Mirror, for instance, claimed that, by denying Hamilton the opportunity to challenge team-mate Fernando Alonso, F1 had been 'robbed of honour and pride and honesty and fair play'. The Daily Telegraph, considered to be one of the least frenzied voices on Fleet Street, described the 'enforced denial of a car chase around the streets of Monte Carlo as sacrilege.'


The FIA, though, have insisted that their investigation was initiated shortly after the race, and long before the British media voiced its sanctimonious outrage.


"The investigation was initiated and started on Sunday evening and developed through Monday morning," Richard Woods, a spokesman for the FIA, told The Times.


Woods also maintained that not only was the FIA probe legitimiate, but had also enhanced the sport's reputation.


"We would never have initiated our investigation unless there was enough for us to look at in the first place," he argued. "This was the regulator going through the regulatory process as transparently as possible and reaching a conclusion."


While that view will not be held universally - Sir Jackie Stewart, for one, has criticised the FIA's investiagation on the basis that "it's unfortunate for Formula One that so much speculation was created, which, in some cases, produced negative publicity towards the sport" - the episode has highlighted the difficulty McLaren face in handling the intensifying interest in Hamilton's progress.


Team boss Ron Dennis has a prickly relationship with the British press and was embroiled in an angry exchange with Daily Express hack Bob McKenzie on Thursday after being accused of deliberately denying access to Hamilton. One suggestion is that the intensity of the media's attack on McLaren's tactics in Monaco was a direct consequence of the simmering feud between the two parties.



Added on May 31, 2007, 10:54 pmSutil linked with Toyota switch
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Adrian Sutil has been touted as a possible replacement for the beleaguered Ralf Schumacher at Toyota.


Following a dismal weekend in Monaco, Ralf has reputedly been given just two races to save his F1 career. According to reports in the German press, the team have run out of patience with the 31-year-old and Sutil has been linked with a dramatic transfer from Spyker.


The unheralded Sutil has emerged as one of 2007's unlikely success stories. This weekend at Monaco, the German topped the timesheets after a wet practice session, an achievement which PF1 declared had promoted the rookie 'from being a pay-driver to someone with potential.' Others, too, have apparently noticed his fine form. "After Adrian's recent performances, one or two team managers have enquired about his situation, but up to now there have been no negotiations," agent Karl-Heinz Zimmermann confirmed.


Nonetheless, it remains unlikely that Sutil would replace Schumacher at Toyota midway through his debut season in F1. Indeed his candidature simply highlights the biggest obstacle Toyota could face in ousting Ralf: the acute shortage of feasible replacements currently available.

Bye Bye Schumacher??

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 31 2007, 10:53 PM)
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Added on May 31, 2007, 10:54 pmSutil linked with Toyota switch

Bye Bye Schumacher??
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I'd like to know what made the FIA investigate then? the fact that both cars slowed down?
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 31 2007, 11:01 PM)
i heard the Man is re-joining ferrari?
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He never left....
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I'd like to know what made the FIA investigate then? the fact that both cars slowed down?

Ron openly said that he ordered the cars to slow down
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 31 2007, 11:01 PM)
i heard the Man is re-joining ferrari?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 31 2007, 11:15 PM)
He never left....
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erm, lol thats true. Michael is still an adviser laugh.gif

I think what he meant is driving the Ferrari car again, which I doubt so...
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Todt wants Michael to suceed him, but the Man is still reluctant. Rumours is that if Volkswagon wants to join F1, it will be spearheaded by Michael
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Todt wants Michael to suceed him, but the Man is still reluctant. Rumours is that if Volkswagon wants to join F1, it will be spearheaded by Michael
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tht's something new......... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 1 2007, 10:40 AM)
Todt wants Michael to suceed him, but the Man is still reluctant. Rumours is that if Volkswagon wants to join F1, it will be spearheaded by Michael
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Hm.. interesting..

Any articles to refer to?
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i read that frm d newspaper....todt simply said that schumi is not interested in a job tat require him 2 b in office for 14 hours a day
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 31 2007, 10:16 PM)
yes, and? I don't think I posted his as an arabic or anything
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so, what's the time for the next canada GP? unsure.gif icon_question.gif

starsports..........states monaco GP blink.gif

TV2..........cant see F1 in tv2 list unsure.gif
http://www.astro.com.my/v5/programming/cha...el_listings.asp


Added on June 1, 2007, 4:10 pmCanada GP is on 10june..i searched for this weekend...my mistake biggrin.gif

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So the next Canada GP and Indy GP will be shown live on TV2 eh..

Now i dont need to listen to that dumb commentator on Astro rclxm9.gif
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But after these two races, we hv to switch back to starsports again.. zzzzzzz!!!
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Night races may be tested elsewhere

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May 30 (GMM) F1's governing body may sanction night racing only if it is first tested in a junior category.

FIA president Max Mosley is believed to have had GP2 or the Renault World Series in mind when he told the Italian magazine Autosprint that floodlit races are not likely to debut at the very pinnacle of motor sport.

"My suspicion is that we would want to see how it goes with another category before we committed to it for the world championship," Mosley said.

Meanwhile, in Monaco, the Briton had warned: "We will not sanction night racing if it does not fulfil all of the safety conditions."
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Hm.. seems like the night races wont be dawning upon the F1 World Championship anytime soon. I mean F1 is the ultimate racing sports and to bring something out of the ordinary to the F1 GP will require a lot of thinking and test through before it can be even implemented.

I think this move might just be the right one.
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Eddie Irvine has slammed Kimi Raikkonen's below-par performances for the Prancing Horse - but has praised Felipe Massa.


The former Ferrari ace believes that besides the Brazilian's mistake at Sepang, he has consistently outperformed his illustrious team-mate.


The Ulsterman told Setanta Sports: "I think Felipe's done a great job.


"He looked stupid in Malaysia [when he was passed by Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton at the beginning of the race after starting on pole], but you have to say that he was all over Hamilton.


"He looked like he could have got him. Raikkonen then pulled up behind him when Massa went off and he couldn't even get close."


"Felipe's been bloody quick. In Malaysia he probably should have taken it a bit easier and got more points but since then he's done a fantastic job.


"Raikkonen just hasn't been on the pace the whole season really. Massa has been on top of him in winter testing and the first four races.


The former Jordan driver again raised the issue of the Finn's notorious playboy lifestyle.


Irvine hinted that the 27-year-old's inconsistent form could perhaps be attributed to his drinking.


"I don't know what that's all about - he's going to have to get his act together or stop drinking because if he's not winning he can't be drinking."
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reporting in..F1 fans here..and Ferrari supporter here..
well..Kimi abit pity la..meanwhile Massa did well..

Alonso and Lewis really good performance overall..very strong team..
this season Renault i think not really good...

Apply the Astro then watch exclusive live edi.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 1 2007, 04:18 PM)
So the next Canada GP and Indy GP will be shown live on TV2 eh..

Now i dont need to listen to that dumb commentator on Astro rclxm9.gif
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cool2.gif about the commentator thingy.
For the broadcast time really doesn't matter though...still after 1.00am sweat.gif

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At least it's live and 5 minutes faster than Star Sports
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Ahhh ~ I so miss James and Martin as commentators for the F1.....
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 2 2007, 11:30 AM)
Ahhh ~ I so miss James and Martin as commentators for the F1.....
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Yeap, at last............ free of wrong info
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 2 2007, 10:35 AM)
At least it's live and 5 minutes faster than Star Sports
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You mean 5 seconds? tongue.gif

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Ahhh ~ I so miss James and Martin as commentators for the F1.....
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3 laps will usually adds up to 5 minutes. And I don't use Astro to watch TV2
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oh noes, my prediction of Massa being a major contender is in V1 ! tongue.gif
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well, ur prediction is wrong liao. hehehe....

my prediction:

1-2 biggest contender is Alonso vs Lewis. its been a long time we didn see a vs within the same team. thumbup.gif
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Yeap, at last............ free of wrong info
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Actually they do make mistakes sometimes, i remembered at the Monaco GP, one of them was saying "Whoa! Check out that BMW in the middle of the McLarens and the best of all, he doesnt need to pit!!"

Then the other guy replied, "He already got lapped"

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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 3 2007, 12:39 AM)
Actually they do make mistakes sometimes, i remembered at the Monaco GP, one of them was saying "Whoa! Check out that BMW in the middle of the McLarens and the best of all, he doesnt need to pit!!"

Then the other guy replied, "He already got lapped"

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Watched Monaco through Star Sports. Didn't watch TV2 smile.gif
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jun 4 2007, 12:47 AM)
Watched Monaco through Star Sports. Didn't watch TV2 smile.gif
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Star Sports commentator are lame.

" I think that BMW had just got a puncture as he was driving considerably slow " And he did not even enter the pit after that
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jun 4 2007, 10:20 AM)
Star Sports commentator are lame.

" I think that BMW had just got a puncture as he was driving considerably slow " And he did not even enter the pit after that
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Yeah I know, but I want to watch the race live, that's why I watched SS rather than TV2.
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live vs good commentators, why not watch both?
but RTM's live coverage IS 3 laps faster than Star Sports, thus when both are airing live race, better watch TV2, wait for an incident, and switch to star sports to watch it again


Added on June 5, 2007, 11:02 amThe champ has spoken

Mika questions Kimi`s move to Ferrari
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Mika Hakkinen claims that his countryman Kimi Raikkonen failed to heed his warning that leaving McLaren would be difficult.


The double World Champion had cautioned Raikkonen to remain with the Woking-based team rather than switch to Ferrari.


Hakkinen told the Finnish newspaper Iltalehti: "I warned him that changing teams might not go well for him


"Unfortunately for Kimi, my forecasts are being fulfilled."


The stoic 38-year-old remained loyal to McLaren through a difficult spell with the team in the 1990's and was rewarded with the 1998 and 1999 World Championship titles.


"Winning the world championship is like a spider-web, which needs many threads, and time," he explained.


"Of course it is true that McLaren's recent past had some problems, but it is a team that has always had the capacity to recover.


The former McLaren star intimated that Raikkonen would have been more successful had he not joined the Prancing Horse.


He said: "It is possible that Kimi has not measured the risks (of joining Ferrari) too well because it looks like being a difficult year for him.


"Also the McLaren car has evolved a lot in the past races, and winning titles can depend a lot on minor factors.


"In this game there are many excellent drivers, so Kimi cannot rely exclusively on his talent," Hakkinen said.


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i think ferrari made a wrong decision in taking kimi in... he is not up 2 the standard
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QUOTE(neozero @ Jun 5 2007, 04:12 PM)
i think ferrari made a wrong decision in taking kimi in... he is not up 2 the standard
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I do believe the downfall of Kimi is that he has not driven many races before F1 that needs him to take care of his machine more. He races in Formula Renault, which is more of sprint to the finish race unlike F1 where you have to drive for 2 hours before finishing. Thus this might explain why he's fast, but unreliable.

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Fernando Alonso has praised the start to the season made by team-mate Lewis Hamilton amid the furore over the McLaren team allgedly using team orders during the Monaco GP.


The FIA, the sport's governing body, investigated the race after Alonso and Hamilton finished first and second - with claims being made that the young British driver was ordered to back off so he did not put his stablemate under pressure.


But the Spaniard, whose team escaped punishment by the FIA, has welcomed the impact made by Hamilton.


"We need to wait and see how the Championship develops but, for sure, it's been a very good start for the team and for Lewis as well," said Alonso.


The reigning Champion is also pleased to see Hamilton help him pick up points in the manufacturers' Championship as well as pushing him in the Drivers' title race.


"Thanks to everybody's points, we are doing great in both championships. Does his success motivate me? No, because I'm always motivated," Alonso added in an interview published in the latest edition of Nuts magazine.

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I do believe the downfall of Kimi is that he has not driven many races before F1 that needs him to take care of his machine more. He races in Formula Renault, which is more of sprint to the finish race unlike F1 where you have to drive for 2 hours before finishing. Thus this might explain why he's fast, but unreliable.

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yes, that's why I said, I believe. It does not matter whether you believe it or not. It's just my opinion based on what I saw. the more the gap between him and Massa grow, the more he pushes, and the more he makes mistake, or blow his engine.
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IMHO...between massa n kimi rite now...
massa have the edge...he is more familiar to the car,bridgstone n also to the team...the only advatage that kimi have rite now is his overtaking skill,which massa really2 suck at it...
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im surprised by Raikkonen's post ! hAHaHhAha laugh.gif i thought he'll be the 1st one to flame that massa fan, who thinks massa is senna laugh.gif

most drivers need about a year to settle down. the real deal will come next year and i hope it's not too late for kimi. under pressure i think kimi will perform better, massa is abit fisichella-ish under pressure laugh.gif IMO
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Jun 6 2007, 10:09 PM)
im surprised by Raikkonen's post ! hAHaHhAha laugh.gif i thought he'll be the 1st one to flame that massa fan, who thinks massa is senna laugh.gif

most drivers need about a year to settle down. the real deal will come next year and i hope it's not too late for kimi. under pressure i think kimi will perform better, massa is abit fisichella-ish under pressure laugh.gif IMO
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Its funny that Lewis is in 4th. I mean he is a young speed demon and yet nobody wants to bet on him for a win. Maybe the betters are undecided on his rookie season.
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lol, I don't think we ever saw the Hamster pass anyone unless it's the race start thus I take Fernando and Kimi only in that comparison


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Heikki Kovalainen may have started a war-of-words with Nelson Piquet Jr after publicly revealing his dislike for the Renault tester.
The duo currently work together at Renault as Piquet Jr replaced Kovalainen as the team's official test driver after the Finn was promoted to race driver.
And they may even race together next season if rumours that Piquet will replace Giancarlo Fisichella as a Renault race driver next season are to be believed.
However, that doesn't mean they have to like each other, which is probably a good thing because Kovalainen "really" doesn't like the Brazilian.
Asked by ITV to chose between former F1 drivers Nigel Mansell and Nelson Piquet, Kovalainen's said: "To be honest I don't really know them so well - it was too early for me when they were racing."
However, he then added: "I don't really like Piquet Junior so much so maybe Mansell."

lol, I really love how the media manipulate how the drivers talk

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Giancarlo Fisichella and Alex Wurz have hit back at former Champion Jacques Villeneuve for his verbal attack on Lewis Hamilton.


The 1997 Drivers' Champion, who retired last season, recently slammed the McLaren rookie for being too aggressive at the start of races with "chopping moves" and suggested the young Briton deserved to be penalised.


The 36-year-old Canadian, who in his first season in 1996 amassed a rookie record 78 points, won four races and enjoyed 11 podium finishes, also labelled Hamilton's red-hot start to his F1 career as lucky.


Hamilton, 22, has been setting records of his own, with five podium finishes from the first five races of the season, and his fellow drivers on Thursday rallied to his cause in Montreal ahead of Sunday's Canadian GP.


"I think Jacques might find it more and more difficult in the future to find comments he can give," Williams driver Wurz said.


"I see nothing wrong with the moves he (Hamilton) is making. It's hard to defend your line."


Fisichella did not comment on Hamilton's actions but he rounded on Villeneuve, adding: "Jacques says quite a lot of things in the media right now. He talks too much."


Hamilton's fellow Brit Jenson Button steered clear of the controversy, however, when he said: "I've been so far back, at the back of the grid, that I haven't seen any of the moves that have been going on. I wish I had but I haven't."
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nahh...jacque should compile all of his comment about f1 rite now into his lyric tongue.gif ... name the album "back to the grid" biggrin.gif laugh.gif ... maybe do some raping,flaming everyone in the paddock laugh.gif
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1. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Mercedes 01:17.759
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 01:17.967
3. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari-Ferrari 01:18.136
4. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 01:18.167
5. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 01:18.301
6. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Renault-Renault 01:18.620
7. Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 01:18.634
8. Ralf Schumacher Germany Toyota-Toyota 01:18.652
9. David Coulthard Britain Red Bull-Renault 01:18.717
10. Anthony Davidson Britain Super Aguri-Honda 01:18.896
11. Takuma Sato Japan Super Aguri-Honda 01:18.898
12. Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota-Toyota 01:18.925
13. Jenson Button Britain Honda-Honda 01:18.932
14. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Renault-Renault 01:18.997
15. Alexander Wurz Austria Williams-Toyota 01:19.189
16. Scott Speed USA Toro Rosso-Ferrari 01:19.234
17. Kazuki Nakajima Japan Williams-Toyota 01:19.273
18. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Honda-Honda 01:19.937
19. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy Toro Rosso-Ferrari 01:20.331
20. Christijan Albers Holland Spyker-Ferrari 01:21.251
21. Adrian Sutil Germany Spyker-Ferrari 01:21.630
22. Robert Kubica Poland BMW Sauber-BMW no time
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now ferrari also have mouth..they had been tested it before this
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Alonso admits 'we won't dominate here'.
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Fernando Alonso is expecting a closer battle from opposition outside the McLaren team in the Canadian Grand Prix, despite topping both free practice sessions at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.

The double world champion headed McLaren team-mate - and biggest Monaco 'rival' - Lewis Hamilton in the opening 90-minute outing, before improving after lunch to head Ferrari's Felipe Massa by half a second. However, despite the sizeable advantage, Alonso insisted that the opening day conditions made accurate predictions of performance hard to gauge.
"It was a good start to our weekend at a challenging circuit, but I don't think we will dominate like we did at the last race in Monaco," the Spaniard claimed, "In the first session, we limited our running slightly as the track was very dirty and only used one set of tyres, but still emerged fastest. The second session was spent on tyre evaluation and also looking at the brakes. We have made some good progress so so far so good, but the track conditions here means that it's very hard to estimate where our competition is."

Rookie team-mate Hamilton was making his first appearance at the Montreal circuit, but acclimatised quickly and backed Alonso up in both sessions.

"Today was the first time I had the opportunity to drive at the Montreal circuit and I really enjoyed myself," the Briton revealed, "We had done a lot of work back in the UK with our simulation programme and I have watched a few of the past races here, but you can't beat the real thing. We worked on set-up, tyre evaluation and also looking at the brakes as this circuit is notoriously hard on the brakes, but there were no problems and it looks like we are in good shape.”
Friday free practice (2) - Canadian Grand Prix.







1. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Mercedes 01:16.550
2. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 01:17.090
3. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 01:17.307
4. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari-Ferrari 01:17.515
5. Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 01:17.827
6. Nico Rosberg Germany Williams-Toyota 01:17.992
7. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Honda-Honda 01:18.108
8. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Renault-Renault 01:18.130
9. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 01:18.181
10. Takuma Sato Japan Super Aguri-Honda 01:18.309
11. David Coulthard Britain Red Bull-Renault 01:18.316
12. Robert Kubica Poland BMW Sauber 01:18.399
13. Jenson Button Britain Honda-Honda 01:18.474
14. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy Toro Rosso-Ferrari 01:18.493
15. Anthony Davidson Britain Super Aguri-Honda 01:18.545
16. Scott Speed USA Toro Rosso-Ferrari 01:18.602
17. Alexander Wurz Austria Williams-Toyota 01:18.871
18. Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota-Toyota 01:18.895
19. Ralf Schumacher Germany Toyota-Toyota 01:19.331
20. Christijan Albers Holland Spyker-Ferrari 01:19.453
21. Adrian Sutil Germany Spyker-Ferrari 01:19.662
22. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Renault-Renault 01:20.519

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wow alonso is fasttttt
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weird...there's a huge gap between Alonso and Hamilton...
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Interesting. Now, I cant wait for the qualifying. If Ferrari fails to secure top spots here, I guess they have a mountain to climb in order to mount a challenge.
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I am looking to a better Honda show in Montreal but even the RBR are way faster than them.. wonder why eh brows.gif


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many drivers have their off track period which includes kimi n hamilton and fri practice was his first drive on this track mayb today's 3rd practice n qualifying can see an improve performance from him..as usual this track is very slippery
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wa seh, finally can listen to martin bundle & james allen live on qualifying & the race  thumbup.gif

starsports commentators - hopeless  doh.gif
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The slip stream before the last chicane would be the drool.gif moment.

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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Jun 9 2007, 01:19 PM)
wa seh, finally can listen to martin bundle & james allen live on qualifying & the race  thumbup.gif

starsports commentators - hopeless  doh.gif
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wa seh, finally can listen to martin bundle & james allen live on qualifying & the race  thumbup.gif

starsports commentators - hopeless  doh.gif
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I really like this pic of Hamilton setting the pace in 4th practice biggrin.gif
too bad the front is just a little too dark...

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james allen is as idiotic anyway. tongue.gif but yea...its still better than starsports
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Amazing how the RBR mechanics can fix Coulthard's car to just get him to get into 13th place in Q1. Its all thanks to Kovalainein's crash on the chicane there...

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mclaren is flying again, can some stop them at Q3 later ?

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Its really nice to see that BMW is giving some challenge to the frontliners....
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just finish watching the delay RTM 2. alonso can get the pole, during his final lap. the fastest in 2nd sector, but was oversteered when he almost reach the line. i probably think he is trying to gv hamilton the pole thumbup.gif .
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heildfied finally spoil ferrari party with a superb performance during Q3

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on his first trip to Canada track...he gets pole shocking.gif This guy is simply amazing...
Ferrari's a gonner...what the heck happened to massa? blink.gif
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jun 10 2007, 02:07 AM)
just finish watching the delay RTM 2. alonso can get the pole, during his final lap. the fastest in 2nd sector, but was oversteered when he almost reach the line. i probably think he is trying to gv hamilton the pole  thumbup.gif .
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was it just me or did i hear the commentator on astro, steve slater say back at the first race of the season, the australian gp at adelaide... ADELAIDE??!! WTF??!! shakehead.gif
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BMW did a good job coming in between the Ferrari and McLaren. I mean getting P3 is amazing, Heidfield is doing great on the track and tomorrow it will definitely be an interesting race.
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QUOTE(viNcee @ Jun 10 2007, 02:19 AM)
was it just me or did i hear the commentator on astro, steve slater say back at the first race of the season, the australian gp at adelaide... ADELAIDE??!! WTF??!! shakehead.gif
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Nobody is watching Astro when RTM is live. Serves you right for watching them XD
anyways
- Fernando lost 3 tenth for going wide at the hairpin, we never saw that, but during the press conference he said that he slowed after that because he knew he had no chance of pole.
- Ferrari needs to have a good strategy or not Heidfeld will help the McLaren run away into the distance. I do feel they are a bit heavy and were caught up by the BMW's strong run
- I have strong respect for Button. Unlike a certain Schumacher at the Toyota, he does not lie to himself during Looise's interview.
Looise: It was give and take wasn't it?
Button: No, I was too slow.
Rare to see that in an F1 driver these days
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Qualifying times at the Canadian Grand Prix:
1. Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren one minute, 15.707
2. Fernando Alonso (Sp) McLaren 1:16.163
3. Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber 1:16.266
4. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari 1:16.411
5. Felipe Massa (Brz) Ferrari 1:16.570
6. Mark Webber (Aus) Red Bull-Renault 1:16.913
7. Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams-Toyota 1:16.919
8. Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber 1:16.993
9. Giancarlo Fisichella (It) Renault 1:17.229
10. Jarno Trulli (It) Toyota 1:17.747
11. Takuma Sato (Jp) Super Aguri-Honda 1:16.743
12. Vitantonio Liuzzi (It) Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:16.760
13. Rubens Barrichello (Brz) Honda 1:17.116
14. David Coulthard (GB) Red Bull-Renault 1:17.304
15. Jenson Button (GB) Honda 1:17.541
16. Scott Speed (US) Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:17.571
17. Anthony Davidson (GB) Super Aguri-Honda 1:17.542
18. Ralf Schumacher (Ger) Toyota 1:17.634
19. Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) Renault 1:17.806
20. Alexander Wurz (Aut) Williams-Toyota 1:18.089
21. Adrian Sutil (Ger) Spyker-Ferrari 1:18.536
22. Christijan Albers (Ned) Spyker-Ferrari 1:19.196
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1. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 01:15.707
2. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Mercedes 01:16.163
3. Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 01:16.266
4. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari-Ferrari 01:16.411
5. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 01:16.570
6. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 01:16.913
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Williams-Toyota 01:16.919
8. Robert Kubica Poland BMW Sauber 01:16.993
9. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Renault-Renault 01:17.229
10. Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota-Toyota 01:17.747
11. Takuma Sato Japan Super Aguri-Honda 01:16.743
12. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy Toro Rosso-Ferrari 01:16.760
13. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Honda-Honda 01:17.116
14. David Coulthard Britain Red Bull-Renault 01:17.304
15. Jenson Button Britain Honda-Honda 01:17.541
16. Scott Speed USA Toro Rosso-Ferrari 01:17.571
17. Anthony Davidson Britain Super Aguri-Honda 01:17.542
18. Ralf Schumacher Germany Toyota-Toyota 01:17.634
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Renault-Renault 01:17.806
20. Alexander Wurz Austria Williams-Toyota 01:18.089
21. Adrian Sutil Germany Spyker-Ferrari 01:18.536
22. Christijan Albers Holland Spyker-Ferrari 01:19.196
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 10 2007, 02:27 AM)
Looise: It was give and take wasn't it?
Button: No, I was too slow.
Rare to see that in an F1 driver these days
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fully understandable...Button is just disappointed with BAR Honda this season. After all, he did get pole in Canada. Now look at where he is. Sato in the Super Aguri is faster than him...
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Nice job Hamilton.

Now it's Alonso's turn to cover Lewis tongue.gif
Sure 'bengang' one laugh.gif

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QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 10 2007, 02:15 AM)
on his first trip to Canada track...he gets pole shocking.gif This guy is simply amazing...
Ferrari's a gonner...what the heck happened to massa? blink.gif
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 10 2007, 02:54 AM)
Nice job Hamilton.

Now it's Alonso's turn to cover Lewis  tongue.gif
Sure 'bengang' one  laugh.gif
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They are free to race each other
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i hope we'll see some racing tomorrow ! who wanna guess which driver will crash into that famous wall ? so called the wall of champions laugh.gif

oh ya ... kimi finally out qualify massa smile.gif
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jun 10 2007, 03:09 AM)
Massa is all the while not good, just that he got lucky when kimi is unlucky.
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Massa did outperform Kimi in Bahrain though...
btw, if I'm not mistaken...pole position in this track is the dirty part of the track is it not? So its not really in favor of pole sitter? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 9 2007, 11:33 PM)
I really like this pic of Hamilton setting the pace in 4th practice biggrin.gif
too bad the front is just a little too dark...
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em, i believe its just a tree in the way. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 10 2007, 02:15 AM)
on his first trip to Canada track...he gets pole shocking.gif This guy is simply amazing...
Ferrari's a gonner...what the heck happened to massa? blink.gif
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i told ya the overrated rookie has delivered the goods icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 10 2007, 02:54 AM)
Nice job Hamilton.

Now it's Alonso's turn to cover Lewis  tongue.gif
Sure 'bengang' one  laugh.gif
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lets hope he can nudge alonso 2 the grass at the start like in spain gp cool2.gif
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We are going to see a lot of grass and maybe
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"The Wall" in tomorrow morning's race.
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I do feel Fernando has the more pace in the long run than Lewis tonight. The fact that he was setting purple times at his last run also reflects this. I wonder if he will play it safe and just shadow Lewis up to the stop and then just put the hammer down. I do hope that Nick can keep that third place. That should give the Ferraris something to think about at the USGP
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 10 2007, 11:11 AM)
I do feel Fernando has the more pace in the long run than Lewis tonight. The fact that he was setting purple times at his last run also reflects this. I wonder if he will play it safe and just shadow Lewis up to the stop and then just put the hammer down. I do hope that Nick can keep that third place. That should give the Ferraris something to think about at the USGP
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btw,i hope mclaren get another 1-2,and nick stay on third
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I wonder what's Ferarri's strategy this time..................
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jun 10 2007, 11:49 AM)
I wonder what's Ferarri's strategy this time..................
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since they dun have the speed, try to be heavy fuel, make some good stint before the 1st pit stop window, try to go as far as possible and hopefully the traffic wont be a disaster for them...

there is still a chance to finish 3-4

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I think you guys listened to the commentators comments with Ted in the garage.
They thought Ferrari's holding something special.
Actually no.
Ferrari said that McLaren has more downforce.
Especially before braking to the final chicane....Ferrari lost a lot of time there.
That's where Alonso lost it too for pole.

Last year Ferrari not promising in Canada as well.
Just my 2 cents.
Hope they can repeat last year's turn around...in Indianapolis, USA.

QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jun 10 2007, 08:35 AM)
i told ya the overrated rookie has delivered the goods icon_idea.gif
lets hope he can nudge alonso 2 the grass at the start like in spain gp cool2.gif
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We'll see.
Either that or Alonso covering Lewis.
They did (covering the leader) it in Monaco.

Another interesting thing to watch.
Remember last Monaco so called 'team orders' thingy?
Will Alonso slow down to let Lewis win?
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We are going to see a lot of grass and maybe
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I miss the Safety Car laugh.gif

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tonight what time ?

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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Jun 10 2007, 02:41 PM)
Then you should be watching American racing. wink.gif
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I mean the SC in F1 tongue.gif

QUOTE(Suk @ Jun 10 2007, 02:56 PM)
tonight what time ?
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1.00am.
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 10 2007, 02:21 PM)

Either that or Alonso covering Lewis.
They did (covering the leader) it in Monaco.

Another interesting thing to watch.
Remember last Monaco so called 'team orders' thingy?
Will Alonso slow down to let Lewis win?
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who covering who?when?crap man...
in monaco both is order to slow down,not only hamilton laaa
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yeah ... hamilton is just slow during the opening stint of monaco. not purposely delaying massa.

and the 1st corner at monaco ? it's too risky to overtake. what do u do next ? defend the line. good for you and your teammate. that's what hamilton is doing.
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Anyways, let see what's gonna happen.


Added on June 10, 2007, 4:42 pm
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yeah ... hamilton is just slow during the opening stint of monaco. not purposely delaying massa.

and the 1st corner at monaco ? it's too risky to overtake. what do u do next ? defend the line. good for you and your teammate. that's what hamilton is doing.
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Anyways, let see what's gonna happen.

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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Jun 10 2007, 04:23 PM)
yeah ... hamilton is just slow during the opening stint of monaco. not purposely delaying massa.

and the 1st corner at monaco ? it's too risky to overtake. what do u do next ? defend the line. good for you and your teammate. that's what hamilton is doing.
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ayaaa...he got heavy fuel load laa bro...he suppose to do one stop strategy if SC is deployed...and what you expect hamilton to do in the first corner?

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i sure this time ferrari will face difficulty wif heidfeil blocking both of them...hahaha...i love to c heidfeld block ferrari although i lik kimi...hmmm wth i m talking ya? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Jun 10 2007, 05:28 PM)
i sure this time ferrari will face difficulty wif heidfeil blocking both of them...hahaha...i love to c heidfeld block ferrari although i lik kimi...hmmm wth i m talking ya? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Just woke up after a few bottles of JD? laugh.gif
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is RTM's aspect ratio still screwed up as it was in Sepang? btw what time is the race proper? I needa get some sleep first...
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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Jun 10 2007, 11:43 PM)
is RTM's aspect ratio still screwed up as it was in Sepang? btw what time is the race proper? I needa get some sleep first...
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it was fine yesterday.

Race will start at 1am
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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Jun 10 2007, 01:35 PM)
since they dun have the speed, try to be heavy fuel, make some good stint before the 1st pit stop window, try to go as far as possible and hopefully the traffic wont be a disaster for them...

there is still a chance to finish 3-4

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dun think so, there is BMW to stop them from getting top 3 or 4 thumbup.gif

anyway, wat time is the F1 on RTM 2?
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Nobody is watching Astro when RTM is live. Serves you right for watching them XD
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watching astro and listening to that retarded commentator makes me feel intelligent and thankful laugh.gif so i'm still going to stick with astro for the race... which is in 13 minutes time at time of posting! drool.gif
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I hear the Canadian crowd cheering for Hamilton as he pass by during the warm up lap biggrin.gif
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oh man

not another boring race yawn.gif

alonso make mistake again..hmm..hamilton gona win this race for sure if he dun do any mistake
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I MISSED THE BEGINNING, HOW COME RAIKONNEN IN P6 ? WHAT HAPPENED ?
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Safety car is out and pity hamilton. Back to square once again.
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SC out doesnt change anything for the fact that under new rules, car not allowed to pit, alonso seemed to do this, he might be penalised in a drive-through penalty


Added on June 11, 2007, 1:40 amOMG, this gonna be fun, massa breached the pit rule by coming out when pit lane light is red? Someone can confirm ?


Added on June 11, 2007, 1:41 amOMG,. KUBICA !!!

PLEASE, BE SAFE

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big kubica crash!!!
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OMG!!! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif hope he is fine..
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is that a honda Civic safety car?? unsure.gif unsure.gif
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Hope kubica is all right. Lets all pray for him
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Yea, I saw it, looks better than the Banz though, seems like Kubica is alright, thank god
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whoa..that was one big crash..lucky thing hes okay..looks shaken up..
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With so many debris lying on the road and so many accidents, the next worst thing that can happen is the SC itself crashing on 'The Wall'
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that civic is the medic car i think.... hmm... but seriously cool....
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LOL, synchronized spinning, damn nice, can they do it again?

I really LOL'ed at Super Aguri, his crew sitting down there, suddenly the car come in and they were running out
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The moment of the race........sato passing kimi. doh.gif
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wow... f1 car dancing... synchronize spinning.. :clab: :clab: :clab:

full of drama race... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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the best part of the race so far...as RTM (well, not really) commentators said, "Synchronized Spinning!!" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(seydee @ Jun 11 2007, 02:02 AM)
The moment of the race........sato passing kimi. doh.gif
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and he is still not able to pass Sato... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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the corner that rosberg and the other fellow spun is the one that alonso lost grip 2 or 3 times already right? maybe should invite him too...
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WTF, did SATO pass him ?!!!
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the corner that rosberg and the other fellow spun is the one that alonso lost grip 2 or 3 times already right? maybe should invite him too...
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Kimi or massa? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 11 2007, 02:03 AM)
and he is still not able to pass Sato...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Kimi is seriously off form in this race. Sato actually lap faster than kimi at the moment.

I don't what happen to this race. full of surprises. Cool man
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WTF, did SATO pass him ?!!!
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FYI .. oh yah.. Sato pass him.. and Sato are lapping faster than him now... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Damn, Schumi must be cursing right now

Alonso is catching up with Kimi
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Very Very soon Alonso gonna pass Kimi.... even after the 10 second penalties.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif bravo Kimi... rclxms.gif
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What a season, for all people have been expecting the two drivers who will fight for the WDC will be Alonso and Kimi, but it turns out that their 'driver number 2' are the ones now.


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:14 amAlonso tailgating Kimi . . .


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:16 amANOTHER SC !!!!!

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What a season, for all people have been expecting the two drivers who will fight for the WDC will be Alonso and Kimi, but it turns out that their 'driver number 2' are the ones now.


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:14 amAlonso tailgating Kimi . . .
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damn, SUPER AGURI pit crew sux, they already made two mistakes this 'afternoon'


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:19 amaww, Giancarlo and Massa DQ !!!

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Hamilton will be laughing kaw kaw, all his rivals get no all little points !!!
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fisi and massa being black flaged. wow. What could we ask for a gp race.


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google rtm2 streaming


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:23 amNow alonso MIGHT kena penalized, for overtaking in pit stop


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:25 amALONSO MADE A MISTAKE, AGAIN !!!!

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lots of things going on this time round..look at alonso cucuk-ing kimi in the pit..laugh.gif
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Thx, who is leading ?
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ANOTHER SC !!!!!!!


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:26 amThe SC driver must be cursing, how many times must he go out to do the rounds


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:27 amI just saw Massa doing a boo sign, on Alonso perhaps

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jun 11 2007, 02:26 AM)
ANOTHER SC !!!!!!!
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Seem Renault will be in the podium hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif unsure.gif
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I think massa is booing the race marshal.
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i think the SC used up more fuel then anyone out there already... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 11 2007, 02:29 AM)
Seem Renault will be in the podium hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif unsure.gif
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i think the SC used up more fuel then anyone out there already...  sweat.gif
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Another car on the wall,

SC driver must be cursing, now he must do more rounds
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wat a race

pit open close..red light bla bla rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jun 11 2007, 02:30 AM)
They only pitted once, and have to pit again, not?
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Kovalainen Pit Twice in my Live TIming screen show..
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Another incident that spice up the gp bu trulli. Crash under the safety car.....

Besides how many laps is under the SC
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haha, i love this phrase

" We don't need anybody more on the wall this afternoon, thank you very much "


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:36 amNow Raikonen kena cucuk again from Alonso


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:36 amWorth the time that im watching this now instead of sleeping

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No bone are broke... and he is talking.. good news for Kubica...
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8 more minutes, for Hamilton to extend his record of 6 consecutive wins for a rookie
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we've had a big crash..sum nice overtaking..plenty of cars kissing walls..plenty of cucuk-ing..alonso trying to turn his car into a lawn mower..and i can recognize the SC car driver if i see him in a pasar malam..what more can we ask for? laugh.gif

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Sato Chasing Alonso.. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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do u believe super aguri outren the McLaren??? sweat.gif sweat.gif rclxub.gif
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WAHAHA, NICE, SATO OVERTAKE 2 TIMES WORLD CHAMPION
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 11 2007, 02:43 AM)
Sato Chasing Alonso.. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Sato pass alonso.
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sato passes alonso!!! yeah!
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Sato makan-ed 2 time world Champion.... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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HE JUST OUTRAN

NOW LEFT KIMI
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superrrr...... over pass
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sato the man!!!! haha


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Rooookiiieee WIN the race!!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


Added on June 11, 2007, 2:48 ambut.. SATO is the MAN!!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif !!

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what happen to ferrari ?
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Did I just hear ' Kubica has broken his leg ? " through the TEAM RADIO of Lewis Hamilton

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Well done Hamilton. This guy have very bright future .
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lucky kubica break a leg only
hmm who will replace him in US
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Jacques Villenue ? hehe

Is he still a test driver? Or totally fired?
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kovalainen also good maa
from last up to 4th
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Jacques Villenue ? hehe

Is he still a test driver? Or totally fired?
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That's because of the 4 major SC
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kovalainen also good maa
from last up to 4th
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kubica broke his leg ar??
walau.. then a new rookie coming in!
sebastian vettel... suppose to be BMW golden boy.
hope he is better than lewis hamilton !
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lucky kubica break a leg only
hmm who will replace him in US
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alonso mouth will be shut good for awile  laugh.gif

alex wurz from no where get 3rd
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Weird race. Too bad for Massa and Fishi. I dont think they knew about it. Boring race overall except for Sato overtaking Raikonen and then overtake Alonso. LOL for that.

It also seem like they arent allowed to enter pit during safety car now. When did the rule changed? Haf to wait till pitlane open... WTF!! That result with so many stranger in top 10. Alonso and Nico got caught out with that.

I think Formula1 is going downhill. The reason everyone kept watching now is they want to see what Hamilton can do. Its not about Alonso, nor Massa nor Raikonen. They want to see Hamilton.
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what a nice Drama to watch....

soimuk.. gud lai.. wave.gif wave.gif wave.gif
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Sato did a fantastic job at the end of the race. Alonso must be freaking mad now...


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nothing better than a Super Aguri Pass a McLaren....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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best pass this season

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jun 11 2007, 02:57 AM)
Weird race. Too bad for Massa and Fishi. I dont think they knew about it. Boring race overall except for Sato overtaking Raikonen and then overtake Alonso. LOL for that.

It also seem like they arent allowed to enter pit during safety car now. When did the rule changed? Haf to wait till pitlane open... WTF!! That result with so many stranger in top 10. Alonso and Nico got caught out with that.

I think Formula1 is going downhill. The reason everyone kept watching now is they want to see what Hamilton can do. Its not about Alonso, nor Massa nor Raikonen. They want to see Hamilton.
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 11 2007, 02:59 AM)
Sato did a fantastic job at the end of the race. Alonso must be freaking mad now...
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at least I can forget about Ferrari's struggle today doh.gif
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Results for the race,

user posted image
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Someone should post on YouTube and emel it to Alonso... Hahahahaha
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some random thought of mine tongue.gif

- get well soon robert kubica. i like that cheesy advertisement of his on hitz.fm about having a hobby. hope he recovers soon.
- taku-san, you da man!
- regarding the astro commentators, chris goodwin should so beat the living crap out of steve slater. chris knows his technical stuff well, isn't blind, isn't lame and this steve just keeps interupting him like some annoying prick.
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That Kubica crash was nasty. I am so glad that he is okay. If his head touches the ground, he might just have twist his head and maybe death ....

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Hmm....I felt that Alonso did something wrong....he can't be going that slow...1:20 seconds per lap is SLOW...might have pick up a problem or maybe fuel running out XD

Congrats to Hamilton, 1st win, leading the championship, way a way to do it
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TV2 is ITV crew? I think they also gone asleep. When TV still showing Massa is in front of Alonso after his mistake at Turn1, he kept saying Massa is 1.2sec behind. I was wondering like hell who was that if not Massa. He realised his mistake when the replay play out. LOL... British commentator...
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 11 2007, 03:03 AM)
That Kubica crash was nasty. I am so glad that he is okay. If his head touches the ground, he might just have twist his head and maybe death ....
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 11 2007, 03:05 AM)
Hmm....I felt that Alonso did something wrong....he can't be going that slow...1:20 seconds per lap is SLOW...might have pick up a problem or maybe fuel running out XD

Congrats to Hamilton, 1st win, leading the championship, way a way to do it
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To Nico Rosberg and Jarno Trulli,

No drifting allowed in the F1 race tongue.gif

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To Nico Rosberg and Jarno Trulli,

No drifting allowed in the F1 race tongue.gif
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Not only that... synchonized drifting... Full mark....
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To Nico Rosberg and Jarno Trulli,

No drifting allowed in the F1 race tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jun 11 2007, 03:06 AM)
well like what the commentator said..its the risk that comes with racing..but surviving crashes like that with minor injury pretty much sums up how safe the cars are nowadays..sato is da man!top 10 was unbelievable..
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Broken leg = minor injury? I think not, Kubica will be replaced next week in Indianapolis

QUOTE(kapitan @ Jun 11 2007, 03:06 AM)
Alonso did nothing wrong. Its just that Sato was on the harder which is faster. The soft option is about 1sec slower after 4 laps like the commentator said.
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Must have been wearing out quite fast as expected then, but can't as slow as 1:20.....there is still something wrong. Anyway, it was a good overtaking, Honda vs Mercedes XD
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Its really funny to see both of them so close and they never even touch each other and yet they drift out of pace...

Anyway, it was a great drift, maybe they have a few rounds in the GT races tongue.gif
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congrats to hamilton, at last he's shown what he's made of. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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broken leg. the crash was a nasty one.
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Because of that, Rosberg lost yet another position XD
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Did Kubica suffer just a broken leg? I mean from the commentators and Looise on the circuit, it seems like he is fine and nothing seems to be wrong... maybe i missed out a few words sweat.gif
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It was mentioned when Hamilton was doing his victory lap, his team told him that Kubica suffered a broken leg
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No big deal for them I guess...
MSC won dunno how many championship with his 'FIXED' broken leg what...

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QUOTE(unknown @ Jun 11 2007, 03:11 AM)
Im surprise see 2nd SC car. smile.gif not benz .
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Is it the Honda Civic Type-R Concept? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jun 11 2007, 03:19 AM)
No big deal for them I guess...
MSC won dunno how many championship with his 'FIXED' broken leg what...
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Of course, broken legs can heal, it just takes time

MSC won championships has nothing to do with his broken leg, more of his skills, determination and of course his car, the most important thing
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what a race ..... really crazy ! ... hAHaHah im totally on high now laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 11 2007, 03:10 AM)
Broken leg = minor injury? I think not, Kubica will be replaced next week in Indianapolis
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 11 2007, 03:20 AM)
Ya spotted it too cos it's white, looks like a police car to me rather than safety car.

Is it the Honda Civic Type-R Concept? hmm.gif
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looks like it...anyway canada is not safe 2 race anymore it seems...this race surely doesnt fail me 2 provide lotsa freaky incidents n we hv one lucky driver that kiss the WALL OF CHAMPIONS now that is liuzzi rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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Yup I know but mind you, broken leg is not a minor injury first of all

Twisting head no problems ler, this crash is not as worst as the 1 Jacque Villenueve felw over Ralf Schumacher in Australia, that was a major crash. Takuma Sato even had worst accident than Kubica, he was hit at the right side of the car by a fast Sauber or something, and the Sauber is a head on collision.
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it's the Honda Civic Si ...... or maybe SiR

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i love to c sato and heidfeld performance...i wonder when kimi will b sacked... rclxs0.gif
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kimi and alonso .................... shakehead.gif

buat lawak for the whole race
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Lewis, great job kid...well done.

Drama...drama...drama.

Well done Heidfeld.

Thank god Kubica's ok...only a broken leg.

Let see what Lewis can do in Indianapolis.

Kimi sleeping again.

Alonso did a lot of jester at the 1st corner...4 times.

Sato on fire laugh.gif well done....'kentut' on Alonso in the closing stages laugh.gif
I love it laugh.gif

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for the 1st time..no ferrari driver on the podium..wat a shame!
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Forgot to add...drivers exiting the pit lane on red light? doh.gif
What were you thinking? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Jun 11 2007, 03:34 AM)
i love to c sato and heidfeld performance...i wonder when kimi will b sacked... rclxs0.gif
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mabe ferrari can loan kimi 2 sauber s replacement driver 4 kubica n luca badoer take over his place lo laugh.gif

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kimi and alonso ....................  shakehead.gif

buat lawak for the whole race
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the one buat lawak is alonso only ah...go over the grass many times n then got overtook by jap minardi laugh.gif kimi just did what he must do...just that no speed at all doh.gif

QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 11 2007, 03:37 AM)
Kimi made a mistake going to Ferrari it seems XD
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prolly so...looks like the flying finn will neva suit the ferrari driving style it seems shakehead.gif mabe he should 4low mika footstep...patiently wait 4 his time 2 earn 2 titles n then retire happily cool.gif

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lucky kubica is good boy....din exit pit under red line...hahahaha
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Ferrari guys must have forgotten to tell Massa to stop, same goes for Fishi

I bet Jon Todt must be praying since massa went out of the pits red lighted XD

I think Kimi is not adjusted to the Ferrari's car as well as Massa. Might have to do with the longer wheelbase this season too
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 11 2007, 03:42 AM)
Forgot to add...drivers exiting the pit lane on red light?  doh.gif
What were you thinking?  shakehead.gif
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mabe they sked later kena lap by the safety car...thats y they cabut 1st lo...anyway they should hv told the new rules 2 all the teams...then shit like this would nv happen at all doh.gif shakehead.gif
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Finally, Lewis Hamilton did it !! Woohoo!! He is one happy man (or boy?). I have to say this to him : He is the finest rookie ever in Formula One history.

Sato did an amazing job! LOL!! He passed Alonso, the world champion!
Haha...Alonso. He must be very very angry! mad.gif

I loved Heidfeld's performance too. He is another consistent driver.

Next race is Indianapolis, a place where McLarens don't do that well most of the time. Ferrari dominates this place big time. However, after the Canadian GP, things can change. Perhaps Hamilton will get 2nd place and Massa will win the GP. My prediction. My predictions are usually always (well sometimes) spot on.

Congrats Hamilton! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

About crossing the red lights, well...I think Kubica was the only driver in the pits that had his eyes working properly. Too bad he had to break a leg. He is OK though, thank God for that.

Haha...Massa got DQ !!! LOL !!! Ferrari ! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 11 2007, 03:42 AM)
Forgot to add...drivers exiting the pit lane on red light?  doh.gif
What were you thinking?  shakehead.gif
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Guess he'll have to back to driving school once again. Red mean stop.


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If Ferrari does not win in Indianapolis, then they gonna have a hard time this season.
Michael turn it around there last year.
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mayb michael will say he will replace kimi for the remaining race in 2007
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 11 2007, 03:50 AM)
If Ferrari does not win in Indianapolis, then they gonna have a hard time this season.
Michael turn it around there last year.
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Yeah, this time there is NO Michael so no miracles to be expected. Ferrari could be bowing to McLaren this year, unless some new chasis design or upgraded engine. McLaren are doing really well this year. Especially that Hamilton kid.

Hamilton = consistency.

Dude...he just started his F1 career this year!! He got 3rd place then a streak of 2nd places and then, a win !!! Can you believe that ???!!! rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 11 2007, 03:50 AM)
If Ferrari does not win in Indianapolis, then they gonna have a hard time this season.
Michael turn it around there last year.
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mayb michael will say he will replace kimi for the remaining race in 2007
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 11 2007, 03:52 AM)
Yeah, this time there is NO Michael so no miracles to be expected. Ferrari could be bowing to McLaren this year, unless some new chasis design or upgraded engine. McLaren are doing really well this year. Especially that Hamilton kid.

Hamilton = consistency.

Dude...he just started his F1 career this year!! He got 3rd place then a streak of 2nd places and then, a win !!! Can you believe that ???!!!  rclxm9.gif
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i think its more like the season is over 4 ferrari n then can start working 4 2008 season...then i can peacefully stop watching F1 n watch other motorsport instead

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yeah ... it seems like it will end up with alonso and hamilton battling for the WC.

now ... who doesnt think that hamilton can win the WC this year ? what a crazy season.. hAHah laugh.gif ... what a crazy race laugh.gif
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If Lewis won the WDC...history written.
Lucky him.
Got a modern F1 car and a talent.

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jun 11 2007, 03:53 AM)
i think its more like the season is over 4 ferrari n then can start working 4 2008 season...then i can peacefully stop watching F1 n watch other motorsport instead


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dun ever dream of that laugh.gif it wont happen tongue.gif
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No...Ferarri will do something for 2007. Still got long way to go in 2007. Things can change a lot. But..there is no Michael. Hmm...that IS the problem. But there will work it out. They will... hmm.gif

Michael replace Kimi? Haha. Kimi himself once said he will not race in Ferrari if Michael Schumacher is still racing. This will NEVER ever happen. I can't even think of a reason Ferrari would do such a stupeed thing...Michael will never ever agree.
LOL!!! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 11 2007, 03:57 AM)
If Lewis won the WDC...history written.
Lucky him.
Got a modern F1 car and a talent.
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how nice if senna was 2 race in that car in his 1st season of rookie yrs...he could hv gotten 200 poles by then laugh.gif
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During Senna times cars were not as modern as now.
Still using manual gear stick shakehead.gif
No TC some more...in the rain some more shocking.gif
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i would rather rate Kubica's accident as the worst over the last few seasons. Its a head on hit on the wall from flat out high speed. The car was totally wrecked.

If im not mistaken, the red light issue was that pit lane will be closed when the SC is near the pit lane. But that time it was nowhere near there.... so it was assumed that they can cross the red light.

n alonso overtaken by Sato was fairly due to the tyre, which Mclaren doesnt fit in soft tyre for this race while Sato was in harder compound when he overtook Alonso. Hamilton was also slow in the last stages as he lapped in 1:19 instead of 1:16 due to the tyre. still alonso could hav made a fight... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif it was worth a point wat?! He just let Sato pass witout resistance... Im really Glad he is not on podium.... i hate him since the day he joined Minardi

still im really dissapointed with kimi... not up to the pace at all.
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yes, Robert Kubica's accident is the worst ever accident I've seen in any of my racing shows. The previous worst accident was when an Arrows flipped a number of times in Italy, the same corner where Aryton Senna's fatal crash happened.

However, considering the cockpit is still in quite firm condition...I'm surprised he broke his leg.
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there is nothing to be surprised about, Schumacher had the same thing during the British GP in 1998. Head on collision and also broke his leg
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 11 2007, 03:48 AM)
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change. Perhaps Hamilton will get 2nd place and Massa will win the GP. My prediction. My predictions are usually always (well sometimes) spot on.

Congrats Hamilton!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

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Massa will need kimi to b unlucky to win GP and alonso and lewis also did poorly. the chances are less for massa to win GP.

anyway, last nite watch the first 10lap then zzzz liao doh.gif can anyone plz tell wat is happening? why got red light? why ALONSO 7th? doh.gif but was happy to see the top 3 driver. Lewis thumbup.gif 2 BMW driver thumbup.gif as my prediction from previous post (b4 the race start) - BMW is there to stop Ferrari getting 3 or 4th place thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jun 11 2007, 03:43 AM)
mabe ferrari can loan kimi 2 sauber s replacement driver 4 kubica n luca badoer take over his place lo laugh.gif
the one buat lawak is alonso only ah...go over the grass many times n then got overtook by jap minardi laugh.gif kimi just did what he must do...just that no speed at all doh.gif
prolly so...looks like the flying finn will neva suit the ferrari driving style it seems shakehead.gif mabe he should 4low mika footstep...patiently wait 4 his time 2 earn 2 titles n then retire happily cool.gif
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alonzo has problem with his car,it seen oversteer and braking problem,that why he always run wide

QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 11 2007, 03:50 AM)
If Ferrari does not win in Indianapolis, then they gonna have a hard time this season.
Michael turn it around there last year.
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ferrari has better record in Indiana,i think ferrari will better there

QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 11 2007, 05:57 AM)
there is nothing to be surprised about, Schumacher had the same thing during  the British GP in 1998. Head on collision and also broke his leg
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micheal broke his leg at british`99 not british`98
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i woke up only 5 laps before the race ends... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz i missed all the fantastic / miserable race..... im trying to find in youtube / bt to get the show now....

congrats to hamilton.. im switching team and driver now.. hahahaha.. no more ferrari and kimi... LOL
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oic, after reading this news only i know wat had happend in the race track. it is chaotic and less intense, as less overtaking. but was much better than the super boring monte carlo yawn.gif .

seeing how unlucky alonso is, his car was damaged, and was needed fuel when the safety car comes doh.gif that is soooo.... unlucky (any word worst than unlucky?). that is why even other less performing team can overtake him.

*hmm...so far, i can predict that the title contender for this year championship will be alonso vs hamilton. it will b an interesting year. while ferrari will need schumacher to do the miracle.
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Different Top 6 cars. F1 is delicious now................
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When traction control is no longer allowed in F1, we'll see more synchronized drifting, lol laugh.gif
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Kubica's accident


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From Luizzi's POV


Added on June 11, 2007, 9:58 amWe didn't see this on ITV, Sutil flying!



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Race Start (including Alonso lawn mowing action)
Bad start for Raikonnen

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Here is another Kubica's accident video



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omg. shakehead.gif kubica really have super serious accident.
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 11 2007, 04:26 AM)
During Senna times cars were not as modern as now.
Still using manual gear stick  shakehead.gif
No TC some more...in the rain some more  shocking.gif
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thats the thing...how nice if senna can start F1 at this time...confirm he can get 200 poles n 200 wins muahahahaha rclxms.gif

QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 11 2007, 05:18 AM)
yes, Robert Kubica's accident is the worst ever accident I've seen in any of my racing shows. The previous worst accident was when an Arrows flipped a number of times in Italy, the same corner where Aryton Senna's fatal crash happened.

However, considering the cockpit is still in quite firm condition...I'm surprised he broke his leg.
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senna crash is in imola tamburello corner la not monza track

QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jun 11 2007, 08:26 AM)
anyway, last nite watch the first 10lap then zzzz liao  doh.gif  can anyone plz tell wat is happening? why got red light? why ALONSO 7th?  doh.gif  but was happy to see the top 3 driver. Lewis  thumbup.gif  2 BMW driver  thumbup.gif  as my prediction from previous post (b4 the race start) - BMW is there to stop Ferrari getting 3 or 4th place  thumbup.gif
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where got 2 BMW ah?only one la.another one dy crash teruk2.the another driver is from williams toyota la.

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jun 11 2007, 10:18 AM)
thats the thing...how nice if senna can start F1 at this time...confirm he can get 200 poles n 200 wins muahahahaha rclxms.gif
senna crash is in imola tamburello corner la not monza track
where got 2 BMW ah?only one la.another one dy crash teruk2.the another driver is from williams toyota la.
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ooppss, sorry, told ya that i really didn watch the race till the end, coz zzzzz liao. i only baru know that kubica crash when bysquashy posted the video here.
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Hamilton celebrates as Alonso blames safety car

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McLaren Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton won the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal and took his maiden Formula 1 victory. After 70 laps with four Safety Car periods, Lewis won 4.3 seconds ahead of Nick Heidfeld and Alexander Wurz. Fernando Alonso ended up seventh following a 10 second stop-and-go penalty. Both drivers were on two-stop strategies.

"I'm on another planet after this - I simply can't find the words to describe what it feels like to win my first Formula 1 race," Hamilton said. "The team has done a fantastic job and I'm so happy to be part of the McLaren Mercedes family. I made an OK start off the line - nothing spectacular but managed to get a good exit out of the first corner and whilst mayhem was happening around me I was able to keep my cool and focus. Obviously I'm pleased that my good friend Robert is OK after his accident. It seemed like every time I opened up a bit of a gap the Safety Car came out and I had to start all over again. It was only a few laps from the end I realised that victory was within my grasp and I started noticing things like the fans cheering and when I crossed the finishing line it was amazing. I now have to stay focused and keep up the good work. It's been an incredible start to my Formula 1 career so far but I know there is a tough season ahead of us. Finally thanks to the entire team at McLaren and Mercedes-Benz for all the hard work they have put into the car - it's an absolute pleasure to drive and be part of such a winning combination."

Alonso commented, "I think this was a strange race with the Safety Car being deployed so many times which worked to Lewis' advantage today and my disadvantage. I came into the pits for the first time on lap 24 as I had no more fuel so basically there was nothing I could do. It was a shame as this resulted in a ten second penalty but I guess that unfortunately those are the rules but there was no alternative other than to stop on track with no fuel. After that I had to push as hard as possible because I was stuck in the middle of the field and when you push to the maximum you sometimes go off track but at that stage there was nothing to lose. Whilst it was a difficult race for me I'm pleased for the team and Lewis that we were able to secure some important points and Lewis winning his first race and also that Robert is OK. I hope for a bit more luck for the US Grand Prix next week and at least I can leave Montreal with two points more than Massa."

Team boss Ron Dennis added, "The whole team worked so hard to achieve the optimum result today. The frustration and disappointment of receiving a stop-and-go penalty having been forced to stop in the pitlane when the pitlane was closed in the first safety car period was obviously immense. However this in no way should detract from a mature and disciplined drive by Lewis to claim his first Grand Prix win. His family should be justifiably proud of his achievement and whatever McLaren and Mercedes-Benz have contributed only compliments his talent and commitment. Fernando was truly unlucky today but there is still a long way to go in the World Championship and we appear to be extremely competitive. The entire team is obviously delighted that Robert Kubica is OK."


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I wonder if Alonso can really put the blame on the fuel... i mean he already ran over the grass at the beginning of the race hmm.gif

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hamilton clearly outpaced alonso.
and kubica's accident was so nasty!
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 11 2007, 10:28 AM)
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I wonder if Alonso can really put the blame on the fuel... i mean he already ran over the grass at the beginning of the race hmm.gif
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I think he was trying to highlight the safety car............. but those who watched the race would say his driving was crappy yesterday.
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haiyah typical apelonso ma...blames evryting except his own p4mans when things go wrong dry.gif

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The Apelonso say the Safety car benefit Hamilton.. I don't understand what he mean.. and I wonder he know what he is saying or not.. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

without the Safety car.. Hamilton should have pull far far far away to win the race..
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haiyah typical apelonso ma...blames evryting except his own p4mans when things go wrong dry.gif
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read clearly, he didn blame the safety car. he is just unlucky when he needed fuel badly and the safety car comes.
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jun 11 2007, 10:55 AM)
read clearly, he didn blame the safety car. he is just unlucky when he needed fuel badly and the safety car comes.
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He was saying that despite Lewis just got out of the pit and actually for the 1st SC, it was a big disadvantage for Hamilton cause his pitting time was written off by cars which are driving at a fast pace compared during the SC where its rather a gamble on the placing...
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the man of the race is Wurz,he get the podium even he race with broken rear wing,he lost a little bit downforce but still get good finishing
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 11 2007, 11:13 AM)
He was saying that despite Lewis just got out of the pit and actually for the 1st SC, it was a big disadvantage for Hamilton cause his pitting time was written off by cars which are driving at a fast pace compared during the SC where its rather a gamble on the placing...
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Incident filled Canadian GP. But, Lewis did a good job. No doubt abt that. Kubica is so 'lucky' with the horrific accident. I feared for the worst when it crashed.
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I just feel sad for Lewis cause he need to build the lead time again during the 4 SCs. Well, still he manage to pull it through.. this only shows that he is a very consistent driver and not forgetting, his speed which was way faster than any other driver on the track.
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Congratz to Lewis. He may very well be this year champion. a record unimaginable to other drivers.

QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 11 2007, 10:55 AM)
The Apelonso say the Safety car benefit Hamilton..  I don't understand what he mean.. and I wonder he know what he is saying or not..  doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

without the Safety car..  Hamilton should have pull far far far away to win the race..
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 11 2007, 11:25 AM)
Incident filled Canadian GP. But, Lewis did a good job. No doubt abt that. Kubica is so 'lucky' with the horrific accident. I feared for the worst when it crashed.
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At least safety is one thing in F1 that is going in the right direction.

QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 11 2007, 11:28 AM)
I just feel sad for Lewis cause he need to build the lead time again during the 4 SCs. Well, still he manage to pull it through.. this only shows that he is a very consistent driver and not forgetting, his speed which was way faster than any other driver on the track.
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he mention that some part was boring, so good for him, SC spice things up a little bit laugh.gif
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wow... this is the most interesting i ever watched so far... even the monaco street race aint interesting as this! feel sad for kubica, heard he has broken his knee/leg??? its really a nasty crash...

like the cantonese commentators said, the safety car grabs the most attention this gp, so many appearances! biggrin.gif and its a mercedes! love michael and daniel commentate the event... very funny yet informative!

so many errros made by the driver and its the first time i ever seen drivers with black flagged... gosh...

its aint easy for lewis to be a winner of the race since so many incidents happen in one race... probably the longest race so far... omos 2 hours... and don forget, sato is one superstar in the race... overtaking alonso and got 3 points for the team... multiple world champion feeling for them! haha honda f1 team should find holes to squeeze their heads lor... laugh.gif
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I also saw some hondas on the track assisting Kubica, which honda was it?


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 11 2007, 11:25 AM)
Incident filled Canadian GP. But, Lewis did a good job. No doubt abt that. Kubica is so 'lucky' with the horrific accident. I feared for the worst when it crashed.
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haha...i like the cantonese commentators as they always talked something funny but...related to f1...
finally lewis won the race.........Congratulation to lewis and Mclaren Mercedes won again..
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now we can see how good he is in USA.
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What a race huh?
Anyone who missed it surely banging their heads now laugh.gif

Hey...Lewis kinda like Schumi now huh?
Once got pole...pull a huge gap rclxms.gif
I enjoy his enjoyment gestures.
Well done kid...well done. You deserved it.

You guys mention Alonso lawnmowing was really funny laugh.gif
Good one rclxms.gif
He's the clown of the race tongue.gif

Typical Alonso...always blaming things when he lost.
We knew him well.
Sore loser.
So far my dream came true...Lewis reigning and his team mate screwing up.
Alonso haters please stand up laugh.gif

Bad though since Ferrari is nowhere.
Happy for me:

1. Casey Stoner wins
2. Nadal beats Federer

Wuhu.... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 11 2007, 03:46 AM)
Ferrari guys must have forgotten to tell Massa to stop, same goes for Fishi

I bet Jon Todt must be praying since massa went out of the pits red lighted XD

I think Kimi is not adjusted to the Ferrari's car as well as Massa. Might have to do with the longer wheelbase this season too
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QUOTE(cruel_boy @ Jun 11 2007, 04:42 AM)
i would rather rate Kubica's accident as the worst over the last few seasons. Its a head on hit on the wall from flat out high speed. The car was totally wrecked.

If im not mistaken, the red light issue was that pit lane will be closed when the SC is near the pit lane. But that time it was nowhere near there.... so it was assumed that they can cross the red light.

n alonso overtaken by Sato was fairly due to the tyre, which Mclaren doesnt fit in soft tyre for this race while Sato was in harder compound when he overtook Alonso. Hamilton was also slow in the last stages as he lapped in 1:19 instead of 1:16 due to the tyre. still alonso could hav made a fight... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  it was worth a point wat?! He just let Sato pass witout resistance... Im really Glad he is not on podium.... i hate him since the day he joined Minardi

still im really dissapointed with kimi... not up to the pace at all.
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Minardi? Who joined Minardi?

Anyway, Sato was fantastic, regardless of whatever tyre he was using, he overtook so many drivers, and overtaking Alonso from the outside, I think Super Aguri has improved alot this year compared to last year

Anyway, why don't we get to see Kubica's nasty accident from his own car cockpit view? That is surely a view, to see the world goes 360 degrees, or perhaps more
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jun 11 2007, 02:22 PM)
Perhaps Massa is too used to seeing red, he thought the red light was part of his car  tongue.gif
Minardi? Who joined Minardi?

Anyway, Sato was fantastic, regardless of whatever tyre he was using, he overtook so many drivers, and overtaking Alonso from the outside, I think Super Aguri has improved alot this year compared to last year

Anyway, why don't we get to see Kubica's nasty accident from his own car cockpit view? That is surely a view, to see the world goes 360 degrees, or perhaps more
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He's talking about Alonso...
And tyres did play a big part..nothing to do with Sato's brilliance rolleyes.gif
The soft tyres can only last 2 -3 laps max before losing alot of grip which is why most teams opt to use them for the last stint.
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Check this out.
Imagine Robert Kubica's incident sweat.gif



Surely Kubica had a series of concussions everywhere.
Concussion on the brain pretty dangerous.
HANS device did a great job.
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Giancarlo Fisichella and Felipe Massa Black Flagged
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any latest news bout Kubica condition?
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who cares how alonso car sick or wat

alonso is not easy to pass to start with or easy to crack under pressure but thats a really superb pass by sato on alonso..sato would pass kimi as well if given more laps


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QUOTE(606088 @ Jun 11 2007, 04:53 PM)
any latest news bout Kubica condition?
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guess his injury was just minor

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611094449.shtml

Kubica set to leave hospital
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The latest news from Montreal is that Robert Kubica will leave a downtown hospital on Monday - with no broken bones.

Contrary to earlier reports that said the 22-year-old Pole had broken a leg in his horror 280kph crash in the Canadian Grand Prix, BMW-Sauber team boss Mario Theissen confirmed that Kubica is actually fully intact.

He told Sport-Informations-Dienst that suspicions of a broken leg were not confirmed after thorough checks at the Sacre-Coeur hospital.

"I am really very relieved," Theissen said, although it must be a possibility that Kubica - who was knocked unconscious in the incident - will be replaced by either test driver Sebastian Vettel or Timo Glock for the upcoming US GP this weekend.

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yesterday was CRAZY!! shocking.gif

kimi is so NORMAL.....
massa 'bad luck" (coz didn't saw d red light?)

wurz....great pit stop strategy??? or juz lucky pit stop?

alonso...... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 11 2007, 04:56 PM)
who cares how alonso car sick or wat

alonso is not easy to pass to start with or easy to crack under pressure but thats a really superb pass by sato on alonso..sato would pass kimi as well if given more laps
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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Jun 11 2007, 05:06 PM)
guess his injury was just minor

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611094449.shtml

Kubica set to leave hospital
BMW driver suffering no serious injury

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woh...good news then for Kubica...hope he gets well soon smile.gif
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 11 2007, 04:26 PM)
And that will make alonso so not brilliant for not attempting any defense maneuver
If thats how you wants to put it
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There's not much any driver can do when the car behind has much more grip available. You can't brake as late and on tracks with a straight followed by a slow corner like this one it was inevitable at the end of the day.

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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Jun 11 2007, 03:36 AM)
kimi and alonso ....................  shakehead.gif

buat lawak for the whole race
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kimi is juz sleeping....while alonso doing alot of lawn mowing...is a surprise tat he didn't kiss d wall
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Yes you can defend your position if you are just a little slower, how you gonna race when your car is alot slower?

People here got so biased against Alonso, i'm not a big fan of him but that's how i see things happening here wink.gif
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 11 2007, 05:27 PM)
Yes you can defend your position if you are just a little slower, how you gonna race when your car is alot slower?

People here got so biased against Alonso, i'm not a big fan of him but that's how i see things happening here wink.gif
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how can his car suddenly get 'alot slower'..........he was actually chasing down kimi during d last few laps....but all of a sudden, he overtook pulak...

n not 2 forget, tat's a super aguri.....alonso is driving a car that can get a pole

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 11 2007, 05:38 PM)
how can his car suddenly get 'alot slower'..........he was actually chasing down kimi during d last few laps....but all of a sudden, he overtook pulak...

n not 2 forget, tat's a super aguri.....alonso is driving a car that can get a pole
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So he purposely let go his position?lol
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super aguri rocks.......! honda can advertise more 2moro...
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QUOTE(verx @ Jun 11 2007, 05:20 PM)
There's not much any driver can do when the car behind has much more grip available. You can't brake as late and on tracks with a straight followed by a slow corner like this one it was inevitable at the end of the day.
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It can still be defended. Alonso just kept his line and let Sato through, most driver would have at least made one maneuver to either keep the car behind out of his slip stream or take the ideal racing line to try block the opponent.

It's not the first time we see Alonso gave up at the closing stage. Remember when he was overtook by Nick in previous races.
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Dont forget that Alonso was on the super soft tires when Sato make the cut. He is definitely much much slower after all the lawn mowing incidents (how many times did he lawn mow that area? Couldnt remember doh.gif )
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Four(4) times at 1st corner alone.
Once at the chicane before the slip stream through the hair pin.
Super soft tyres do worn out quickly though.

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he is practising the synchronize drifting is it?? hmm.gif

cannot be he make the mistake 4 time in the same turn isn't it??

a world Champion u know.. hmm.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 11 2007, 06:34 PM)
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 11 2007, 05:38 PM)
how can his car suddenly get 'alot slower'..........he was actually chasing down kimi during d last few laps....but all of a sudden, he overtook pulak...

n not 2 forget, tat's a super aguri.....alonso is driving a car that can get a pole
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zzzzzzzz .......... sato is on the harder tyre which is alot faster. please they have marked the soft tyres with white lines ..........

give up or not .... when the car behind is much faster. the car infront will still be overtaken at some point of the track, this is not a track where it's difficult to overtake or has no overtaking opportunity. it has plenty !
so, give up or risk it defending ? sato with his kamikaze spirit has nothing to lose. for alonso, to lose only 1 point to sato or get no points ? and it's a slipery track with alot of so called "marbles" off the line. the risk is high.

kinda disappointing for most of us eh ? alonso lawn mowing, kimi sleeping. 2 of the best from the the last few years .... driving like rookies on track .....

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 11 2007, 05:09 PM)
woh...good news then for Kubica...hope he gets well soon smile.gif
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QUOTE(ulet @ Jun 11 2007, 01:57 PM)
sebastian vettel
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suppose to be a damn good driver.
now we can see how good he is in USA.
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Jun 11 2007, 07:13 PM)
kinda disappointing for most of us eh ? alonso lawn mowing, kimi sleeping. 2 of the best from the the last few years .... driving like rookies on track .....
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as for kimi, i had get used to it edi..

but was dissapointed for massa's black flag.... wink.gif

yesterday i was actually burning midnite oil for 2day exam...but luckily d race save me from Zzzz..... thumbup.gif

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Do you think they will use Vettel for USA? I think they might use Glock as he has more race experience.
Anyways, I do believe Fernando knew he cannot do anything against Sato, and just give him. Rather then losing all teh points, he did the smart thing and settle for 2. Horrific crash for Kubica BTW. Lucky he did not slam into the Torro Rosso parked there, or he will launched into the other side of the track.
The track needs to be better IMO for next seasons. Heidfeld has strongly critisized the lack of grip and the way that the hairpin will always be damaged year after year.

Driver of teh day for me? Suprisingly it's not Lewis, but Wurz. He drove on the slow tyres for half of the race, and had part of his rear wing missing. And he was closing down on Heidfeld rapidly too after the last safety car.
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i was like OMG when i saw kubica's car hit da barrier then barrel - roll.. thankfully he onli suffer a broken leg..

da canadian GP 4 me has its good & bad.. da bad part is tat 2 many appearance of da safety car.. doh.gif

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The US GP will have jump in the number of spectators. Why? Crashes sell. The most watched GP in history was the Catalan GP after the crash and death of Aryton Senna
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 11 2007, 06:18 PM)
It can still be defended. Alonso just kept his line and let Sato through, most driver would have at least made one maneuver to either keep the car behind out of his slip stream or take the ideal racing line to try block the opponent.

It's not the first time we see Alonso gave up at the closing stage. Remember when he was overtook by Nick in previous races.
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Aiyar, after Sato overtook schumi, he had around 3-4 seconds to catch Alonso, and he managed to catch Alonso in 1 ++ lap, so the tyre could have contributed 1-2 seconds a lap the most, but yet Sato manage to overtake, I call it skill, or rather, Alonso sux

He overtook Alonso with 2 laps remaining, and when he cross the line, he had around 5 seconds from Alonso, you can't say Alonso is playing safe or whatever, because schumi is just 1 second behind him.

Besides, he is overtaken by Super Aguri, what else can you say?

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 11 2007, 05:08 PM)
yesterday was CRAZY!! shocking.gif

kimi is so NORMAL.....

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he made contact with massa at the start and took some damage and after kubica's crash, some debris got caught in his car which plagued its handling badly so it seems.
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jun 11 2007, 09:38 PM)
Aiyar, after Sato overtook schumi, he had around 3-4 seconds to catch Alonso, and he managed to catch Alonso in 1 ++ lap, so the tyre could have contributed 1-2 seconds a lap the most, but yet Sato manage to overtake, I call it skill, or rather, Alonso sux

He overtook Alonso with 2 laps remaining, and when he cross the line, he had around 5 seconds from Alonso, you can't say Alonso is playing safe or whatever, because schumi is just 1 second behind him.

Besides, he is overtaken by Super Aguri, what else can you say?
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Sato was on the harder tyre and has more grip. He was catching Kimi after passing Fernando at a rate of 3 seconds per lap after that. And Fernando don't want to risk an accident with an ill behaving car


Added on June 11, 2007, 10:29 pmInterestingly, on the same set of tyres with Kimi, SATO WAS PULLING AWAY FROM TEH FERRARI AT A RATE OF 0.3 seconds PER LAP BEFORE HIS BOTCHED PIT STOP. He was fast, end of story. Do you think just because he's driving a Super Aguri, he's slow? that car won a race last season mind you, and is still one of the fastest car on the grid, if not for the crappy Honda engine this season

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Aiya don't bother to say anything anymore.

Alonso - do good or bad also bad

Others do something wrong also got excuse for them

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is F1 is on now?????????

alamak... im lost track of it....

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alamak... im lost track of it....

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This coming weekend la dei, got too drunk on Ferrari's performance in Canada izzit?!
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wtf?! laugh.gif

This coming weekend la dei, got too drunk on Ferrari's performance in Canada izzit?!
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Fernando Alonso thinks Monaco would have helped his quest to emerge as McLaren's clear 'number one' for the rest of the season.

The Spaniard is tied on points in the drivers' championship with team-mate Lewis Hamilton, but Monte Carlo was his second win for the silver camp.

"It is understandable that the team still has doubts about who should be the number one," Alonso is quoted as saying by the Italian daily La Gazzetta dello Sport.

He said: "We are tied on points and we have the same opportunities, which is why winning in Monaco was very important from that point of view. Now it is up to me to take advantage of it."

Alonso also dismissed the British press' furious suggestions last week that only illegal team orders prevented Hamilton from going for the win in Monaco.

"The only certainty is that if you arrive at your first pit stop with a ten second disadvantage to your teammate, it is going to be very difficult for you to pass him," Alonso said.


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I wonder why is Alonso so worried.
Afterall, Lewis is just a rookie and he is the WDC whistling.gif
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I wonder why is Alonso so worried.
Afterall, Lewis is just a rookie and he is the WDC whistling.gif
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when a rookie is performing consistent and doing well, while u not so consistent...

will u be worried?
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Kubica's alright, no broken leg.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 11 2007, 10:47 PM)
Aiya don't bother to say anything anymore.

Alonso - do good or bad also bad

Others do something wrong also got excuse for them

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A mistake made is still a mistake, whether you're a rookie or a 10x world champion.

Alonso certainly wasn't in his best form yesterday. Look at how many time he miss chicane 1. He was full of mistake yesterday. Towards the end, he seems to play a little too safe.

Well, its his rights to do whatever he wants and play as safe as he wants too. But you won't have anyone else to blame but alonso himself when Hamilton takes the championship title away from him smile.gif

Past 2 years, alonso has been going against drivers who are driving a car that either doesn't have enough downforce or blows up engines and gearbox from time to time. This year, he's up against his own team mate with the same tool that he has. His playing safe ways may not work this time around.

BTW Massa and Fisi is horrible. worst mistake ever made.
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 11 2007, 11:41 PM)
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I wonder why is Alonso so worried.
Afterall, Lewis is just a rookie and he is the WDC whistling.gif
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that is old news BTW.

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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 12 2007, 12:02 AM)
A mistake made is still a mistake, whether you're a rookie or a 10x world champion.

Alonso certainly wasn't in his best form yesterday. Look at how many time he miss chicane 1. He was full of mistake yesterday. Towards the end, he seems to play a little too safe.

Well, its his rights to do whatever he wants and play as safe as he wants too. But you won't have anyone else to blame but alonso himself when Hamilton takes the championship title away from him smile.gif

Past 2 years, alonso has been going against drivers who are driving a car that either doesn't have enough downforce or blows up engines and gearbox from time to time. This year, he's up against his own team mate with the same tool that he has. His playing safe ways may not work this time around.

BTW Massa and Fisi is horrible. worst mistake ever made.
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Hmm, reminds me of Schumacher during his younger days. He always makes mistakes, but was fast enough to win the championship with Benneton. He was even still rough around the edges during his initial years at Ferrari, losing the championship to Damon, Jaques and Mika because of some stupid errors. But ppl never remember him for that, they still remember him as a 7 time world champion. But hey, like you said, mistakes are mistake.
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Kubica's alright, no broken leg.
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It is better to hear that he did not broke his leg. Just hurt his ankle. Hopefully, he can recover quickly and give us more exciting races.

Yesterday's race strategies gone completely wild when the safety car was deployed for 4 times.. shakehead.gif

I think Lewis and Nick were the only unaffected drivers. I am pretty sure the British and Japanese media went mad after yesterday's race.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 11 2007, 11:17 PM)
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This coming weekend la dei, got too drunk on Ferrari's performance in Canada izzit?!
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wat a horrible crash, and after all that, only a sprained ankle? Whoa!
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I wonder why is Alonso so worried.
Afterall, Lewis is just a rookie and he is the WDC whistling.gif
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alonso already got the no.1 on his car now he wants to be the no.1 in the team
drive better and the results of the race depicts a thousand words..

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QUOTE(vivaldi @ Jun 12 2007, 01:21 AM)
wat a horrible crash, and after all that, only a sprained ankle? Whoa!
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Thank god.
I was worried a bit.
I want to see Kubica show some sign that he's ok from the cockpit.

HANS device and F1 safety rocks.
Broken leg is like a trademark in horrible crash tongue.gif
Saw a documentary about HANS in the discovery channel.
There's this crash in Indy 500...the driver also suffers a broken leg.

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 12 2007, 12:08 AM)
Hmm, reminds me of Schumacher during his younger days. He always makes mistakes, but was fast enough to win the championship with Benneton. He was even still rough around the edges during his initial years at Ferrari, losing the championship to Damon, Jaques and Mika because of some stupid errors. But ppl never remember him for that, they still remember him as a 7 time world champion. But hey, like you said, mistakes are mistake.
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Its the same for everyone. Alonso would still be remembered as the driver who won 2 world champions with Renault, and for all other championship that he will win in the future. When schumi drove into Jaques, it was an unforgivable mistake that none of his fans can defend, and I'm sure whichever team he was driving for, their fans didn't like like it either.

But now is now. If those mistakes were left unacknowledged by the driver them self, it could harm the driver himself. Massa should not have shown the thumbs down either, it was totally his own fault.

I mean, bad mistake should not be defended too much, heh.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 12 2007, 12:08 AM)
Hmm, reminds me of Schumacher during his younger days. He always makes mistakes, but was fast enough to win the championship with Benneton. He was even still rough around the edges during his initial years at Ferrari, losing the championship to Damon, Jaques and Mika because of some stupid errors. But ppl never remember him for that, they still remember him as a 7 time world champion. But hey, like you said, mistakes are mistake.
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He lost to Damon mainly because of dog of a car I believe

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He lost to Damon mainly because of dog of a car I believe
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Actually he was banned at the Belgian GP in 1996 because he disobeyed the Stewards at the British GP. Thus giving Damon the chance to close the gap.
For Massa, it might have been his fault, but there are some more incident that the Stewards left out
- Taku going in the pit when it was closed
- Kimi jumping Liuzzi/Trulli jumping Kubica in outside teh pit because both cars stopped at the red light
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Massa should not have shown the thumbs down either, it was totally his own fault.

I mean, bad mistake should not be defended too much, heh.
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when i watched his gesture....i thought he was showing d thumb-down for himself 4 getting disqualified......not towards anybody else....tat's how i felt it
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when i watched his gesture....i thought he was showing d thumb-down for himself 4 getting disqualified......not towards anybody else....tat's how i felt it
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or maybe massa is blaming the safety car?
or blaming the race director for closing the pit exit?
or blaming his own team for not informing him on the radio?

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rules are rules... izit possible not to notice the lights before driving out the pitlane???
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he will race at US???or replace by Vettel
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I dont understand why Apelonso still have this kind of thinking.. and still keep saying this kind of thing... this doesn't help him @ all...

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611165432.shtml
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 12 2007, 11:47 AM)
I dont understand why Apelonso still have this kind of thinking.. and still keep saying this kind of thing...  this doesn't help him @ all... 

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611165432.shtml
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Alonso say that bcoz Lewis is lucky with his fuel strategy,if Lewis first stint fuel like Alonso,he will get penalty too,Alonso had no choice,he must come to pit to fuel-in,that why Ron Dennis blame GPDA for safety car laws which driver not allowed stop when safety car come out until all race car line-up behind safety car,innocent driver will get penalty in this situation,the first safety car only give advantage to who had already made a stop which is Nick and Lewis

Other than that,Lewis had other luck when his tyre very comfortable in first and second stint,Lewis`s tyre also get better grip than Alonso at last stint
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 12 2007, 11:27 AM)
but massa oso did not complaint anything....ferrari juz accept d fact
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no laa.. not they not complaining,its just the press think its not a hot story to put in their news tongue.gif

before this we heard that sooner or later hamster will get his first pole n his first win..he got it already...but,sooner or later he will also get his unlucky race,its just a matter of time tongue.gif

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 12 2007, 11:47 AM)
I dont understand why Apelonso still have this kind of thinking.. and still keep saying this kind of thing...  this doesn't help him @ all... 

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611165432.shtml
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I wish to hear his explanation on the 1st corner when he went to the grass.
If he stayed behind Lewis, he might stand a chance for the lead.
Anyways, I got my answer what McLaren will do when they're 1-2 on the starting grid.

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 12 2007, 11:47 AM)
I dont understand why Apelonso still have this kind of thinking.. and still keep saying this kind of thing...  this doesn't help him @ all... 

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611165432.shtml
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More him acknowledging that Lewis is his main rival rather than the two Ferraris this season.

QUOTE(amanda85)
but massa oso did not complaint anything....ferrari juz accept d fact

What's more to complain. The Ferrari was not at fault. It's the driver's responsibility to see the red light. Nothing the team can do as they don't know themselves wether the pit lane exit (not entry mind you) was open or closed.

Taken from F1 rulebook
- The pit lane exit will be closed when the Safety Car is near or approaching the pit lane
- The pitlane entry will be open during that time
- Cars that are following the safety car can pit at that time
- Cars already in the pit will have to wait until the pit lane exit is reopened again
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 12 2007, 11:38 AM)
by suffering d coccusion....i think he will b rest
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he was just suffered a sprained ankle,i think he will able to race at indianapolis,because his first question to his docs "Will I be able to race in Indianapolis next Sunday?"
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Wait till thursday. But I doubt it.
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Did you guys see the close up shot of Kubica hitting the wall? The front part of the car was totally destroyed till it exposed both his foot and the pedals
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Did you guys see the close up shot of Kubica hitting the wall? The front part of the car was totally destroyed till it exposed both his foot and the pedals
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Toyota's Jarno Trulli was better placed than most to witness the true severity of Robert Kubica's accident in Montreal - it was his car that Kubica ran into, triggering the crash. Trulli discusses his feelings on the incident, his difficult Canadian weekend and his prospects for Indianapolis...

Q: Drama in Montreal from first to last. What can you say?
Jarno Trulli: Before anything, I just want to say how delighted I am that Robert Kubica is not badly injured after the accident on lap 27, when we were racing closely. I was shocked about the violence of the accident and very concerned because I had no information.

Q: What happened?
JT: I was struggling with tyre graining and lack of grip. Robert was quicker and I gave him the left-hand side of the track. The last time I saw him in my mirrors he was on that side, then I just got hit at the back and I have no idea what happened. I saw the medical car out for a long period and I was very concerned.

Q: What about your own race?
JT: I was battling for points in the early stages and then after Robert's accident I had a flat tyre and had to make a pit stop. I don't know if it was because of contact or because of debris. After that it was a confusing race and I was at the back. I had to make another stop later on and when I came back out I just lost concentration and drove straight into the wall at Turn 1 with 12 laps to go. Honestly, I was really glad that it was all over. It doesn't really matter how it went for me, all that matters is that nobody was seriously injured.

Q: How big a concern were the two suspension failures you had on Friday?
JT: The team analysed the data and it looked like a mixture of circumstances which made the upright fail over a particular kerb at Turn Eight. There was no clear explanation because the component was exactly the same as last year and the kerb is exactly the same too. There is something different in the suspension geometry and that's why we completely changed the characteristics of the set-up to try to help the situation.

Q: Did it affect your confidence?
JT: When you want to be quick you don't pay too much attention to what might happen and so I was more concentrated on getting the best out of myself and the car in qualifying rather than thinking about Friday. Obviously, when I went out on Saturday morning I was a bit cautious and I was concentrating hard in Turn 8, but more on not hitting the kerb rather than being quick. We are drivers and once we close the visor we focus on our job.

Q: Was a top-10 qualifying position better than you expected?
JT: I would say it was unexpected. We lost most of Friday practice yesterday and Saturday morning was pretty poor because the track conditions were bad. We went into qualifying with a lot to discover, we had to change the car set-up to overcome the mechanical problem and we also had to avoid the kerb. So 10th was a great result. I was more than satisfied!

Q: Have you ever suffered a double component break before?
JT: No, it's the first time for me and also for the team, which has never had these kind of problems. The first time I hit the kerb I called on the radio and told the team to bring Ralf in as well until we investigated the issue.

Q: Were there any positive points about your trip to Canada?
JT: As I said, I think it is a tremendous positive that on Sunday night Robert Kubica had been examined at hospital in Montreal and was okay and able to talk and tell jokes to the people from his team who visited him. It says a lot about the strength of today's cars and the positive progress that has been made with safety, but it also proves that what we do has dangers and that we can never be complacent. It is never nice to see something like that and the most important thing about the whole weekend is that he was okay. Everything else was pretty much insignificant but, away from the track, it was fun to entertain the British press at one of Montreal's nicest restaurants on Thursday evening and give them an opportunity to sample the famous Trulli wine! It was all from my own vineyards and they seemed to approve. Unfortunately I couldn't join in and had to stick to water! But the overriding feeling from the weekend is not about light-hearted matters, it is one of relief.



Added on June 12, 2007, 6:11 pmwhat the hell happened here? shocking.gif
taken during Friday practice...look like the wheel exploded upon impact. I don't wanna be anywhere near the cockpit when that happens sweat.gif

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I hope Kubica won't felt phobia when it comes to overtaking.
It's that manouver that caused the horrible crash last Sunday.
A little touch at high speed is all it needed sweat.gif

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Nope, where is it?
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Today the star sports section.

Also I realized something, my school subscribed the star, and when I read it yesterday ( monday ), it only showed qualifying result, which means it did not cover the race report.

But at my home, the same newspaper, every single page was the same, except for that particular section on F1, at home, they reported slightly further, seems like at publication time, kubica had crashed and that picture is featured in the newspaper and the report is different too which means they covered race day too compared to the star from my school on the same day which did not cover race day
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ASTRO channel do showed latest news.
Spank ankle and concussion.
Concussion's pretty dangerous...especially when it comes to the brain.
We'll see if Kubica can race this sunday.
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kubica'siranian engineer are not welcomed to us http://www.duemotori.com/news/f1/13835_Rob...so_in_doubt.php
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QUOTE(advanced @ Jun 12 2007, 10:15 PM)
kubica'siranian engineer are not welcomed to us http://www.duemotori.com/news/f1/13835_Rob...so_in_doubt.php
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remarkable how lucky he is n how safe f1 car nowdays

its scary see the replay over n over again sweat.gif
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remarkable how lucky he is n how safe f1 car nowdays

its scary see the replay over n over again  sweat.gif
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BTW guys, was this the second safety car?
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jun 12 2007, 11:26 PM)
BTW guys, was this the second safety car?
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what I remember in my mind is the 4 doors version.. front look very similar... smile.gif
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It looks very similar to the one in the race. That was supposed to be a medical assistant or a race steward car..
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That was the circuit's clerk de course car. As Honda is the engine supplier for the CART series in the US, they use Honda in all the circuit. The safety car and the medical car are still Mercedes-Benz
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Isnt that the Honda Civic SI ?!
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 12 2007, 02:17 PM)
More him acknowledging that Lewis is his main rival rather than the two Ferraris this season.

QUOTE(amanda85)
but massa oso did not complaint anything....ferrari juz accept d fact

What's more to complain. The Ferrari was not at fault. It's the driver's responsibility to see the red light. Nothing the team can do as they don't know themselves wether the pit lane exit (not entry mind you) was open or closed.

Taken from F1 rulebook
- The pit lane exit will be closed when the Safety Car is near or approaching the pit lane
- The pitlane entry will be open during that time
- Cars that are following the safety car can pit at that time
- Cars already in the pit will have to wait until the pit lane exit is reopened again
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but it is said that safty car wasnt approaching pit lane... safety car was nowhere near that part of the track at that time. i can still remember the commentator in tv2 said this.
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Alonso feels `uncomfortable` at McLaren
Tuesday 12th June 2007

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World champion Fernando Alonso has "never felt totally comfortable" at McLaren since Lewis Hamilton was confirmed as his team-mate for the 2007 season.

Spanish racer Alonso joined McLaren from Renault after back-to-back drivers' championships but hinted he feels slightly sidelined by the arrival of a British driver at a British team.

Hamilton has so far outshone his team-mate, securing his first Formula One victory at the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal on Sunday and leading the drivers' championship by eight points in a sensational rookie season.

Alonso told Spanish radio station Cadena Ser: "Well, right from the start I've never felt totally comfortable.

"I have a British team-mate in a British team, and he's doing a great job and we know that all the support and help is going to him and I understood that from the beginning.

"But I'm not complaining. I've won two races out of six and I've finished on the podium four times and I have those 40 points that will allow me to fight for the title in the end."

Alonso is still convinced he can overhaul Hamilton and win a third straight drivers' crown.

"I'm calm, I'm fine, but I know there's a certain impatience to return to the top and dominate.

"But I'm second in the championship, I'm eight points behind. I would be worse if I were at Renault, or Honda or any other team.

"At the moment I am where I expected to be and with a clear chance of winning the title in Brazil, and not now, in the sixth race."

He also seemed to suggest that the British media were fickle and had over-reacted to Hamilton's success.

"I'm totally indifferent to that. Those are the same journalists and newspapers that, if the safety car had come out on lap 23 instead of lap 24 when Hamilton didn't have enough fuel for another lap, would not have been able to say anything.

"The Spanish press has more respect than the British press."


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Awww Alonso starts to complain again... at his team again...

What's with his statement, what exactly is he trying to say?!

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"The Spanish press has more respect than the British press."


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"I have a British team-mate in a British team, and he's doing a great job and we know that all the support and help is going to him and I understood that from the beginning.





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i think either one of them hamilton or alonso will leave nx season. only 6 race and last 2 race both of them are complaining.

looks like no team work eh?
juz my view.
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I think Alonso should refrain from doing any interviews from now on.
Everything he says gets misintepreted time and again.
He has a point when he says that the British media lack respect.
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 13 2007, 10:01 AM)
Awww Alonso starts to complain again... at his team again...

What's with his statement, what exactly is he trying to say?!
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The truth. For one he acknowledge that his teammate is doing a good job for a rookie, and usually the team will try to help a rookie more.
For the brit media, nothing more to say. Screaming murder when he won at Monaco, not mentioning him when he won at Malaysia. while the spanish gives both drivers the same kind of treatment
But for all I care this is going to be a really great season. On one hand, a 2 time world champ driving a car that does not suit his driving style and tyres that he's not used to, but still manage to go fast. and on another a rookie that is going beyond expectation, and might even win the championship on his first try. If Ferrari still shooting their foot, both will sweep the floor of the opposition
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I just dont understand why Alonso is so demanding. I mean he said he didnt get the attention he needed, and i am just wondering who gave him the cover in Sepang, Spain anyone?! And in Monaco...

Just 1 race that he perform badly and Lewis gets the spotlight and now he is coming up to complain? Come on man, this is F1...
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Alonso kept complaining.
Lewis kept smiling...and winning smile.gif
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yus..seems lik u support lewis...u no longer support kimi r?rclxs0.gif
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Jun 13 2007, 02:31 PM)
yus..seems lik u support lewis...u no longer support kimi r?rclxs0.gif
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Remember what I said last year before the season started? brows.gif
About supporting McLaren's 2nd driver and wish him the best.
Deja vu at the moment.

You support who? brows.gif

Anyway, still a long season to go.
But looking pretty good for Lewis....because he is good.

I support Sato...LMAO.

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I don't see any complaining. rolleyes.gif
I'm with linkin. I'm enjoying this season. It's the British media that's trying to plant seeds of unrest which is uncalled for imo.
Sure Alonso could have driven better at Canada but i don't see anything wrong with his comments. But then again some lack the intelligence to intepret articles with a little common sense and would rather rely on headlines. wink.gif
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 12 2007, 07:41 AM)
Actually he was banned at the Belgian GP in 1996 because he disobeyed the Stewards at the British GP. Thus giving Damon the chance to close the gap.
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Erm, I believed that in 1996 it was obvious and publicly stated the he never expected to challenge for the title in the Banard Ferrari? And He won Spa and Monza back to back that year. wink.gif It was in 1994 he was DQed for an overly worn wooden underplank.
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QUOTE(verx @ Jun 13 2007, 02:46 PM)
But then again some lack the intelligence to intepret articles with a little common sense and would rather rely on headlines.  wink.gif
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I hope you're not bias towards me.
Because I'm not the only one here posted quoted articles from F1 web sites.

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 13 2007, 02:51 PM)
I hope you're not bias towards me.
Because I'm not the only one here posted quoted articles from F1 web sites.
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There's nothing wrong with quoting articles. Interpreting them is what i'm talking about. wink.gif


Added on June 13, 2007, 2:58 pmA more sensible article this:
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Dennis reiterates equality for his drivers

McLaren boss Ron Dennis has reiterated his team's commitment to provide Fernando Alonso and teammate Lewis Hamilton with equal opportunities to win this year's world championship.

Alonso told Spanish radio Cadena Ser on Monday night that he hasn't felt fully comfortable at McLaren since joining the team at the start of the year, the double world champion suggesting Briton Hamilton was getting more support from what is a British team.

Dennis, however, has responded in saying that McLaren are giving - and will give - both drivers the same support and opportunities, also suggesting the media is making a story out of 'an innocent remark'.

"It's completely understandable that the results of each Grand Prix are going to provide both the British and the Spanish media with an opportunity to hang on every word that the drivers say - and sometimes quotes are taken out of context, which can put a completely different spin on an innocent remark," Dennis said.

"The Vodafone McLaren Mercedes team is made up by extremely passionate and competitive people, and there is a healthy competition between the teams working on each car - this is inevitable, and there is no issue with that.

"However I can categorically state once again that both drivers have equal equipment, equal support and equal opportunity to win within the team, and both Fernando and Lewis know and support this.

"Fernando's comments when read carefully are correct; he hasn't been with the team long and the relationship can only continue to develop. The team is not going to do anything to jeopardise this positive and growing partnership."


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It's about time Dennis grooming Alonso rolleyes.gif

I guess we're all free to use our own discretion.
Alonso has his.
His fans has theirs.
Others have theirs.

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Dont quite understand what Alonso said by this, anybody wanna interpret?
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"At the moment I am where I expected to be and with a clear chance of winning the title in Brazil, and not now, in the sixth race."


Alonso: I miss Fisi so much...

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It's like his mumbling or something tongue.gif
Don't really care though laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 13 2007, 03:01 PM)
I guess we're all free to use our own discretion.
Alonso has his.
His fans has theirs.
Others have their.
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You're quite right..
But i would like to point out that the original interview was actually done in Spanish.
Knowing the British press they did twist a few words here and there. As i said a little common sense goes a long way. It's just too bad that common sense ain't very common. tongue.gif
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I wonder, is it just me or the British commentators and media were not excited for Lewis success compare to the excitemen when Button won last year hmm.gif

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Maybe next time, Alonso should apply some common sense when doing interview or just avoid doing any, like Lewis biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 13 2007, 03:02 PM)
Dont quite understand what Alonso said by this, anybody wanna interpret?
Alonso: I miss Fisi so much...

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Read the whole statement for that to make sense. The majority of humans will usually never delve deep into what they read, which is why they have a hard time understanding what really is meant. That's also why the rate of pass for BM and BI in SPM are still not 100% in Malaysia.
Back to topic, what he said was, this is still early in the season. And to be second in points behind his own teammate with many races to go will be benifiting to him as he still has time to learn about teh car and the tyres more. Thus he is confident by the time F1 is in Brazil, he will won the world championship.

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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 13 2007, 03:09 PM)
Maybe next time, Alonso should apply some common sense when doing interview or just avoid doing any, like Lewis biggrin.gif
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Dennis won't let Lewis be interviewed ECSPECIALLY by the British Press. He feels they are manipulative bastards (not his own word, but he implied it). Lewis is usually interviewed by F1 insiders like F1 racing journalist and such
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Lewis so down to earth.
That's why most of us liked him.
His performance were pretty good.

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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 13 2007, 03:09 PM)
Maybe next time, Alonso should apply some common sense when doing interview or just avoid doing any, like Lewis biggrin.gif
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And McLaren were criticised for not allowing Lewis to do any interviews. See where i'm getting at. Alonso has to give interviews; it's part of his job; but maybe he should not say too complicated things seeing as the British media like to jump at every chance to twist his words
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 13 2007, 03:13 PM)
Lewis so down to earth.
That's why most of us liked him.
His performance were pretty good.
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The exact opposite of a certain 7 times world champ who snubbed press unless it's from Germany, and had openly critisise a certain Finn XD
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 13 2007, 03:09 PM)
Back to topic, what he said was, this is still early in the season. And to be second in points behind his own teammate with many races to go will be benifiting to him as he still has time to learn about teh car and the tyres more. Thus he is confident by the time F1 is in Brazil, he will won the world championship.
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"At the moment I am where I expected to be and with a clear chance of winning the title in Brazil, and not now, in the sixth race."


Erm.. i kind of agree with you. But i would break up his sentence into 2 parts. First is the front where he said that he is where he is at now. The place he is in now is what he have expected. I wont defy what he said was true because i couldnt read his mind, whether he have already expected that he will perform badly in Montreal.

But i am just wondering, would a person expect that he would end up 7th after qualifying for a 2nd place? After having a good start in F1? Would he have even predicted that he would end up tailing 8 championship points behind?

It was his mistake that he lawn mow that area, his aggressiveness, and now he is saying this is expected. If i were to say, it might just be a lie.

Edited: Maybe i think too much, and sad my english aint that good, so if you will excuse me whistling.gif

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I wonder how far down the grid will Ferrari go...BMW is getting the best out of them. Next in line...Renault?
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 13 2007, 03:31 PM)
Erm.. i kind of agree with you. But i would break up his sentence into 2 parts. First is the front where he said that he is where he is at now. The place he is in now is what he have expected. I wont defy what he said was true because i couldnt read his mind, whether he have already expected that he will perform badly in Montreal.

But i am just wondering, would a person expect that he would end up 7th after qualifying for a 2nd place? After having a good start in F1? Would he have even predicted that he would end up tailing 8 championship points behind?

It was his mistake that he lawn mow that area, his aggressiveness, and now he is saying this is expected. If i were to say, it might just be a lie.

Edited: Maybe i think too much, and sad my english aint that good, so if you will excuse me whistling.gif
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He never said it was about the race. He said that in concerning that he is second in the championship
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Sauber, particularly Heidfeld did well in Canada.
Pretty fast.
Can't wait to see what they can do this weekend.


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I forsee another podium for Nick. The hit their sweet spot. Don't discount Webbo too
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I thought that Webber could finish the race on the podium but then he went into the pit around the last 2 laps *couldnt really remember* doh.gif
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Super Aguri too.



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either. you have to choose the tyre of ur choise before qualifying. and after that you cannot change it. Remember in 2003 when Schumacher was slow at the Hungarian GP? he chose the wrong tyre
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I think the best part of the Canadian GP is.. The Synchronised Spinning.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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I think the best part of the Canadian GP is.. The Synchronised Spinning..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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You mean they "Synchronised Drifting" by Rosberg and Trulli?

That was hillarious!! laugh.gif
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hungarian?i tot that time he still used wet tyre although rain stop dy....
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Super Aguri too.


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this is nice...sure evryone will rmbr it

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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Jun 13 2007, 11:20 PM)
this is nice...sure evryone will rmbr it
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jun 11 2007, 09:56 AM)

Kubica's accident


Added on June 11, 2007, 9:57 am

From Luizzi's POV


Added on June 11, 2007, 9:58 amWe didn't see this on ITV, Sutil flying!



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Race Start (including Alonso lawn mowing action)
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Here is another Kubica's accident video


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I think the best part of the Canadian GP is.. The Synchronised Spinning..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 13 2007, 09:32 PM)
You mean they "Synchronised Drifting" by Rosberg and Trulli?
That was hillarious!!  laugh.gif
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I forgot all about it.
I went "...dancing?..." tongue.gif


`Lewis has Alonso rattled but is no Senna`
Wednesday 13th June 2007

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Nigel Mansell believes Lewis Hamilton has "rattled" McLaren team-mate Fernando Alonso.

World champion Alonso indicated there is friction between the pair on Tuesday when he implied Hamilton receives extra support from the team and admitted he has "never felt totally comfortable" at McLaren since the 22-year-old was confirmed as his team-mate for the 2007 season.

The Spaniard's remarks came in the aftermath of Hamilton's maiden Formula One victory in Montreal on Sunday which extended his lead ahead of Alonso in the standings to eight points.

And Mansell believes Hamilton's win in Canada represented a serious psychological blow to Alonso.

"I don't think anyone can compete with Lewis at the moment. Alonso drove from the start of the race as though he was rattled.

"His mistake on the first corner was very uncharacteristic and later in the race he broke the car.

"I wish Lewis all the luck in the world and so does all of England. It will be a remarkable achievement if he wins the championship this year.

"The only person he's got to beat is Alonso and he's already done that. What impresses me most is that he has Alonso rattled and that is remarkable."

Mansell does have reservations, however.

"Everything is going for him but motor racing is a fickle sport," he told sportasylum.com.

"He hasn't made a mistake yet. He's only human and he will make one - hopefully not this year.

"If he keeps his head then the percentages of him winning the world title are very much on his side.

"He has done marvellously so far and it has been brilliant for British motor racing. But I am not going to compare him with Ayrton Senna or Michael Schumacher. There's a long way to go before anyone can consider that."


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"I am with an English team-mate, at an English team, which is brilliant. We know that all of the help goes his way. I've understood that from the first moment and I'm not complaining about it."
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 14 2007, 10:40 AM)
QUOTE(Alonso)
"I am with an English team-mate, at an English team, which is brilliant. We know that all of the help goes his way. I've understood that from the first moment and I'm not complaining about it."
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He meant that he's taking it as a challenge and not complaining
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 14 2007, 10:49 AM)
He meant that he's taking it as a challenge and not complaining
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Yea, that is basically what he means
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well in a sarcastic way of saying it though.

Btw, i am not sure if he said it in Spanish and then the media translate it to English which can cause massive confusion like the previous article. Best, listen to what the Spanish media has to say about his words rather than the English papers...

I am just getting paranoid sometimes....

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Good link for open discussion.

http://www.bbc.co.uk

Watson: `Favouritism claims are bollocks`

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Former Grand Prix winner John Watson has slammed Fernando Alonso for claiming that McLaren do not treat him and Lewis Hamilton equally.

Watson believes that the World Champion, who joined the Woking-based team this season, has disappointed his team principal Ron Dennis with his comments.

He also argued that the Spaniard is struggling to cope at McLaren because he is no longer the golden boy.

"I think Alonso is missing being the centre of attention," Watson told The Sun newspaper.

"He has been the centre of attention at Renault and in Spain but obviously he's not anymore. He feels that because he's in a British team Lewis is getting favouritism. That's bollocks.

"The only thing that is happening is Lewis is generating so much excitement at the moment that Alonso doesn't know what is happening. It's not Lewis' fault he's doing well and Alonso isn't.

"He just has to stop, take a breath, move on and grow up .

"I think Ron Dennis will be disappointed. He'll want to talk to Fernando right away and find out what he meant by it. It's disruptive and negative and Alonso needs to explain it."

The former McLaren driver also said that Alonso has been taken aback by the hype around his team-mate and with results failing to go his way, the former Renault driver has begun to vent his frustration.

"If you look back to Monaco, perhaps Alonso expected the status quo to be formed when the team allowed him to win," explained Watson.

"He thought he'd established himself as the No 1. But there was only one name on everyone's lips in Monaco. It wasn't Penelope Cruz or Jude Law, everyone wanted a piece of Lewis.

"I think it's just emotion and frustration from Alonso. McLaren are one of the few teams who don't operate a No. 1 and No. 2 driver policy. Alonso started the season as the best Formula One driver in the world by a long margin. But McLaren will always give both drivers equal opportunity to win.

"Maybe he's struggled to adapt to the team. McLaren has a different outlook to Renault, it's not as emotional and is a different environment. He's also learning a new car and has different tyres. He's probably never raced on Bridgestones before, so it's all getting under his skin."


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QUOTE(Alonso)
"I am with an English team-mate, at an English team, which is brilliant. We know that all of the help goes his way. I've understood that from the first moment and I'm not complaining about it."
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Good link for open discussion.

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Watson: `Favouritism claims are bollocks`
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Grow up?
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What nationality is Watson again? Oh, right, British. Look back at this issue and see how many non Brit former racer or pundit talk about it? none.
The brits have serious issue with their own countrymen. Look at how they howl at Monaco issue. And they do need to remember that during this times that Ron protects Lewis, Fernando is the team's only spokeperson.
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Gosh! I think the Brits are going overboard here. Not like i am a Alonso f-a-n-s or whatever but then, i seriously think this is going overboard.

I read in another forum that there is some translation error on the interview and the answeres did not came out from Alonso's mouth at all. It was the interviewer who ask a YES/NO and a little twist in words that cause the whole confusion. Moreover, its SPANISH!!

So i think we can leave this guy alone for now. He still has a lot to catchup to his young teammate anyway.

Edited: Oh btw, i am not aiming at the "Watson say" article, its connected to the "root" of it.

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Yes that interview was done in Spanish
Here's the direct link to the mp3:
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But i doubt anyone here understand Spanish. tongue.gif
Anyway according to some who understood it said that there was no moaning at all and that he was just answering questions asked by the interviewer in a diplomatic way.

But i think all this nonsense about Alonso should stop now. Ferrari fans should stop worrying about what comes out of Alonso's mouth considering they have bigger things to be worried about tongue.gif
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like i said before... alonso should just answer all the press question with "no comment" tongue.gif .. end of story
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like i said before... alonso should just answer all the press question with "no comment" tongue.gif .. end of story
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Alonso a double consecutive World Champion...so all focus on him.
Press always all over him and wary of his performance....good and bad.

Indianapolis is his least favorite track.
More pressure.

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 14 2007, 10:49 AM)
He meant that he's taking it as a challenge and not complaining
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I think the fact that he mention it really caught people attention, and the team will not be happy about it.

It shouldnt even be a challenge if the team is fair. The only way for it to be a challenge means that he has to be going against the tide working in the team. At least such comments does suggest so.

I don't think McLaren is unfair against him either. They sign Alonso with a huge paycheck, they're obviously committed in getting him the crown. It's up to him to prove himself that he's worth it.

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nowadays all talk bout lewis n hamilton....no news for kimi n massa...ferrari sign kimi wif big pay too but he din even show he is worth for every penny sad.gif
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nowadays all talk bout lewis n hamilton....no news for kimi n massa...ferrari sign kimi wif big pay too but he din even show he is worth for every penny sad.gif
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Former McLaren driver David Coulthard, meanwhile, rejected theories that Alonso is failing to cope with pressure.

Rather, the F1 veteran and Red Bull racer said the Spaniard is 'still making mistakes' as he adapts to the Bridgestone tyres.

"That's not easy," Coulthard wrote in his column for ITV. "They give you a totally different feel, a different balance. It's like a man learning to wear high heel shoes..."
http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...614184141.shtml

hhmmm.... never thought that tyres make such a big difference in driving too. this is interesting. smile.gif


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I still hope Ferrari can turn it all around this weekend...just like last year.
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Vettel to replace Kubica at Indy
15 June 2007

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BMW Sauber's Sebastian Vettel will make his Formula One race debut at this weekend's US Grand Prix after FIA medical staff advised Robert Kubica not to race following his high-speed crash in Canada.

Kubica suffered only concussion and a sprained ankle in the Montreal accident and told Thursday's press conference at Indianapolis that he was feeling 100 percent. However, athough the FIA doctors largely agreed, they felt it unwise for the Polish driver to risk the chance of a second concussion in such a short space of time.

The decision means Vettel gets a race call-up, while fellow German tester Timo Glock becomes BMW Sauber's reserve driver at Indy. Vettel, aged just 19, made several impressive third-driver outings with the team in Friday practice sessions last season and this season is competing in the World Series by Renault.

"Of course, I am looking forward to my first F1 race," he said, "but I wish it had come under different circumstances. It's never nice if a team mate can't drive because he had an accident. For me the Indianapolis Speedway is unknown territory, but I have prepared myself for this situation and tomorrow I have two 90 minute practice sessions. I know the car very well as I have quite a lot of testing miles under my belt."

Kubica is expected to return to the cockpit for the French Grand Prix on July 1, assuming he is given the all clear by medics ahead of the Magny-Cours race.

"Naturally I'm disappointed because I felt absolutely ready to race," he said. "But I respect the decision. It was made because there is too much risk to let me race in this Grand Prix in case I have had another impact so soon after Montreal. I will go home now. I wish Sebastian all the best. It is good for him and I am pretty sure he will do a good job."

BMW Motorsport Director Mario Theissen added: "We respect the decision of the medical personnel. The team was prepared for this situation. Sebastian will receive all possible support from us and we hope for another good race here."


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nowadays all talk bout lewis n hamilton....no news for kimi n massa...ferrari sign kimi wif big pay too but he din even show he is worth for every penny sad.gif
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Shouldnt it be Lewis & Fernando rather than "lewis n hamilton" laugh.gif

Another sign that Lewis is being the favorites over Alonso and taking all the attention tongue.gif

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nowadays all talk bout lewis n hamilton....no news for kimi n massa...ferrari sign kimi wif big pay too but he din even show he is worth for every penny sad.gif
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i see no peace in McLaren this season. LOL

hope both of them will still stay in the team for few season but if things going on like this confirm will see a new driver nx yr.
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i see no peace in McLaren this season. LOL

hope both of them will still stay in the team for few season but if things going on like this confirm will see a new driver nx yr.
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I don't think so lol. I expect Alonso to look elsewhere after his contract runs out.

Hamilton is now a very valuable driver, if not most valuable after Michael Schumacher. Big budget teams like Ferrari will be looking at signing him up, and McLaren will be digging deep into their pocket to keep Hamilton there. Alonso doesn't have much to bargain for if he wants to stay at McLaren, they're going to go bankrupt with two high paying drivers.
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vetel win on his first gp appearance!!! this gonna be great...damn i really wanna see hamster dnf this time,after all the luck he had this time,i'm really² wanna see he struggle n how he handle it n what press gonna say about it
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If he do struggle, its expected,

its Indy afterall whistling.gif
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How come Alonso always complains that he is ill treated by his team. When he was with Renault, same things happened. Now with Mclaren, again it happened.
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How come Alonso always complains that he is ill treated by his team. When he was with Renault, same things happened. Now with Mclaren, again it happened.
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How come Alonso always complains that he is ill treated by his team. When he was with Renault, same things happened. Now with Mclaren, again it happened.
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y sauber choose vettel?izit he is better than timo glock?wat is glock age?
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Hamilton dismisses Alonso`s complaints as `strange`
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Lewis Hamilton cannot understand why team-mate Fernando Alonso feels the British rookie is being favoured by McLaren.

Double world champion Alonso reportedly told a Spanish radio station he has "never felt totally comfortable" since joining the Woking outfit from Renault for the 2007 season.

But, following Hamilton's maiden grand prix victory in Canada last weekend, he reportedly said a British driver in a British team was getting "all the support and help".

Speaking ahead of Sunday's United States Grand Prix in Indianapolis, championship leader Hamilton responded by saying: "I find it strange that he said that.

"I feel that, ever since he joined the team, the team has been extremely motivated to push us both towards winning.

"Ron and the guys on the team have been pushing extremely hard and working extremely hard to make sure we have equal opportunities.

"It's probably always going to be difficult.

"I've got a great relationship with all the guys on the team because I've been there since I was 13.

"But, at the end of the day, when Fernando came into the team, they were extremely excited and I feel that they've built a very good relationship with him.

"So I don't see why he would say that but I guess, because he is Spanish and I am English, he might feel that way but I don't agree with it personally."

The comments mark the second race in a row that friction has emerged between the pair, with Hamilton sparking an FIA investigation into whether the team broke the rules at Monaco when he implied he was told not to try and beat Alonso.

The team were absolved of any guilt after insisting any orders were merely to ensure a McLaren one-two.

On Sunday, it was Alonso who showed his frustration after being outshone by his inexperienced team-mate, who now leads the drivers' championship by eight points after a sensational start to his Formula One career.

Hamilton added: "I doubt very much he was expecting me to do as well as I have but I don't know if that's why he would be saying what he's saying.

"Coming into the team, he's the two-time world champion and I don't think he's really been challenged.

"Well, he's had one or two challenges in the past but not from someone as close as me and as good a friend off the track. So it's a very difficult situation."

Hamilton's arrival in Indianapolis was delayed when his flight from Washington DC last night was cancelled, forcing him to spend another evening in the American capital following a personal appearance there for sponsors Exxon Mobil.

He arrived 24 minutes late for the official FIA media conference, having come straight from the airport.

Having gone to New York straight after the race in Montreal, he admitted he still had not been able to gauge the reaction to his maiden victory.

He said: "I've been in New York so I've not really heard too much. I heard that I had the front pages back in the UK, which is awesome.

"But, other than that, I've not really been able to feel what has gone on around the world.

"I think that's been quite good to be honest. I've been able to relax, although I have had about 200 text messages from friends. It's been impossible to reply to them all but I'm trying."


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I don't think so lol. I expect Alonso to look elsewhere after his contract runs out.

Hamilton is now a very valuable driver, if not most valuable after Michael Schumacher. Big budget teams like Ferrari will be looking at signing him up, and McLaren will be digging deep into their pocket to keep Hamilton there. Alonso doesn't have much to bargain for if he wants to stay at McLaren, they're going to go bankrupt with two high paying drivers.
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i tot lewis aint gonna leave mclaren so soon
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Team mate vs team mate will make the team work extremely hard to satisfy both drivers.. in which, it will make McLaren stronger also..
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1st practice

1 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1:11.925

2 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:12.391

3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:12.628

4 Sebastian Vettel BMW 1:12.869

5 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:12.966

6 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:13.020

7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:13.040

8 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:13.159

9 Jenson Button Honda 1:13.597

10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:13.682

11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:13.777

12 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:13.786

13 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:13.819

14 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Ferrari 1:13.907

15 Scott Speed STR-Ferrari 1:13.990

16 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:14.000

17 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:14.037

18 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:14.052

19 Heikki Kovalainen Renault 1:14.189

20 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:14.632

21 Christijan Albers Spyker-Ferrari 1:14.636

22 Adrian Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1:14.810


no more mclaren vs ferrari shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

now bmw vs mclaren thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif


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How come Ferrari is lagging so far behind?

But i wonder why McLaren is the only car that have the most thin front body..thought there's a rule that every part of the car body have to follow specification?
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well practice doesnt mean the true performance...
hamilton is doing very well i must say...
i like his driving style and he does deserve all the attention...
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if it's pass the crash test, the FIA don't care what shape it is
Funny nobody said anything about the 2nd practice. Ferrari dominates untill the final minutes
01 F. Alonso McLaren 1:12.156 35 laps
02 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:12.309 34 laps

03 F. Massa Ferrari 1:12.435 36 laps
04 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:12.587 38 laps
05 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:13.026 43 laps
06 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:13.042 41 laps
07 N. Rosberg Williams 1:13.057 35 laps
08 H. Kovalainen Renault 1:13.110 48 laps
09 R. Barrichello Honda 1:13.144 40 laps
10 J. Button Honda 1:13.202 46 laps
11 S. Vettel BMW 1:13.217 50 laps
12 M. Webber Red Bull 1:13.263 21 laps
13 V. Liuzzi Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:13.332 41 laps
14 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:13.364 46 laps
15 G. Fisichella Renault 1:13.394 44 laps
16 A. Wurz Williams 1:13.539 29 laps
17 J. Trulli Toyota 1:13.692 42 laps
18 S. Speed Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:13.712 34 laps
19 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:13.753 46 laps
20 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:13.765 39 laps
21 C. Albers Spyker F1 1:14.225 30 laps
22 A. Sutil Spyker F1 1:14.513 33 laps
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Hopefully its a Mclaren tapao Ferarri show again icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on June 16, 2007, 12:35 pmFYI guys
TV2 12:30 am FORMULA 1 2007 - LITAR UNITED STATES (LIVE)

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so,how is u all prediction?another 1-2 mclaren?
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wtf,what hav mclaren done to their car
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rly hope to c kimi still in mclaren sad.gif
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wtf,what hav mclaren done to their car
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We feed steroids to the car laugh.gif
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QUOTE(verx @ Jun 16 2007, 01:38 PM)
We feed steroids to the car laugh.gif
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There's no rules prohibiting that right? rolleyes.gif
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1-3 to BMW, hehe, hopefully.
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jun 16 2007, 02:00 PM)
There's no rules prohibiting that right?  rolleyes.gif
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there's no logic to it either! laugh.gif
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yes, and the fact that both Massa and Kimi did the same thing and cannot match the pace of the Macca was also stated.
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Jun 16 2007, 02:14 PM)
1-3 to BMW, hehe, hopefully.
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unlikely,because only both mclaren and ferrari doing 1.12XXX
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QUOTE(advanced @ Jun 16 2007, 01:26 PM)
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this.....

http://www.formula1.com/insight/technical_analysis/
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maybe its more of a - "what has Ferrari done to their car"? tongue.gif
I just read an F1 news...for this track, they don't have hard compound tyres. Only medium and soft tyres were offered. Apparently...the only other time (this season) medium tyres was offered was in Australia.
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Q1.
1.Alonso 2.Heidfeld 3.Hamilton

Q2.
1.Alonso 2.Hamilton 3.Kimi

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then TNBs' profit will drop dramatically tongue.gif
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GOSH........HAMILTON got pole position again ....... my goodness.......... shocking.gif

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