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post Jun 11 2007, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jun 11 2007, 02:22 PM)
Perhaps Massa is too used to seeing red, he thought the red light was part of his car  tongue.gif
Minardi? Who joined Minardi?

Anyway, Sato was fantastic, regardless of whatever tyre he was using, he overtook so many drivers, and overtaking Alonso from the outside, I think Super Aguri has improved alot this year compared to last year

Anyway, why don't we get to see Kubica's nasty accident from his own car cockpit view? That is surely a view, to see the world goes 360 degrees, or perhaps more
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He's talking about Alonso...
And tyres did play a big part..nothing to do with Sato's brilliance rolleyes.gif
The soft tyres can only last 2 -3 laps max before losing alot of grip which is why most teams opt to use them for the last stint.
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post Jun 11 2007, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 11 2007, 04:26 PM)
And that will make alonso so not brilliant for not attempting any defense maneuver
If thats how you wants to put it
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There's not much any driver can do when the car behind has much more grip available. You can't brake as late and on tracks with a straight followed by a slow corner like this one it was inevitable at the end of the day.

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post Jun 13 2007, 10:33 AM

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I think Alonso should refrain from doing any interviews from now on.
Everything he says gets misintepreted time and again.
He has a point when he says that the British media lack respect.
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post Jun 13 2007, 02:46 PM

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I don't see any complaining. rolleyes.gif
I'm with linkin. I'm enjoying this season. It's the British media that's trying to plant seeds of unrest which is uncalled for imo.
Sure Alonso could have driven better at Canada but i don't see anything wrong with his comments. But then again some lack the intelligence to intepret articles with a little common sense and would rather rely on headlines. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 13 2007, 02:51 PM)
I hope you're not bias towards me.
Because I'm not the only one here posted quoted articles from F1 web sites.
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There's nothing wrong with quoting articles. Interpreting them is what i'm talking about. wink.gif


Added on June 13, 2007, 2:58 pmA more sensible article this:
Source: Autosport.com

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Dennis reiterates equality for his drivers

McLaren boss Ron Dennis has reiterated his team's commitment to provide Fernando Alonso and teammate Lewis Hamilton with equal opportunities to win this year's world championship.

Alonso told Spanish radio Cadena Ser on Monday night that he hasn't felt fully comfortable at McLaren since joining the team at the start of the year, the double world champion suggesting Briton Hamilton was getting more support from what is a British team.

Dennis, however, has responded in saying that McLaren are giving - and will give - both drivers the same support and opportunities, also suggesting the media is making a story out of 'an innocent remark'.

"It's completely understandable that the results of each Grand Prix are going to provide both the British and the Spanish media with an opportunity to hang on every word that the drivers say - and sometimes quotes are taken out of context, which can put a completely different spin on an innocent remark," Dennis said.

"The Vodafone McLaren Mercedes team is made up by extremely passionate and competitive people, and there is a healthy competition between the teams working on each car - this is inevitable, and there is no issue with that.

"However I can categorically state once again that both drivers have equal equipment, equal support and equal opportunity to win within the team, and both Fernando and Lewis know and support this.

"Fernando's comments when read carefully are correct; he hasn't been with the team long and the relationship can only continue to develop. The team is not going to do anything to jeopardise this positive and growing partnership."


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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 13 2007, 03:01 PM)
I guess we're all free to use our own discretion.
Alonso has his.
His fans has theirs.
Others have their.
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You're quite right..
But i would like to point out that the original interview was actually done in Spanish.
Knowing the British press they did twist a few words here and there. As i said a little common sense goes a long way. It's just too bad that common sense ain't very common. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 13 2007, 03:09 PM)
Maybe next time, Alonso should apply some common sense when doing interview or just avoid doing any, like Lewis biggrin.gif
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And McLaren were criticised for not allowing Lewis to do any interviews. See where i'm getting at. Alonso has to give interviews; it's part of his job; but maybe he should not say too complicated things seeing as the British media like to jump at every chance to twist his words
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post Jun 14 2007, 02:53 PM

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Yes that interview was done in Spanish
Here's the direct link to the mp3:
www.cadenaser.com
But i doubt anyone here understand Spanish. tongue.gif
Anyway according to some who understood it said that there was no moaning at all and that he was just answering questions asked by the interviewer in a diplomatic way.

But i think all this nonsense about Alonso should stop now. Ferrari fans should stop worrying about what comes out of Alonso's mouth considering they have bigger things to be worried about tongue.gif
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post Jun 16 2007, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(advanced @ Jun 16 2007, 01:26 PM)
wtf,what hav mclaren done to their car
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We feed steroids to the car laugh.gif
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post Jun 29 2007, 05:22 PM

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That's the problem with u Ferrari fans. You guys are more interested in what Alonso has to say than what both your drivers are up to. Sad i must say especially someone here who keeps posting any sort of news regarding Alonso, probably in an attempt to divert attention away from his underperforming favourite driver rolleyes.gif.

I've just read that conference article and i still don't see anything he said that suggested there was big tension; if anything it just showed that he's still a winner at heart which is something i like in drivers.

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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jun 29 2007, 07:54 PM)
Then why didnt you posted it?!
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Cause i couldn't be bothered rolleyes.gif
I don't mind news being posted as long as it is informative and not just some lame attempt to talk shit about a driver that u don't like.

QUOTE(cruel_boy @ Jun 29 2007, 09:01 PM)
u guys are really pathetic! No one can deny the facts no matter how well you argue.....

The Fact:
Lewis Hamilton is performing beyond expectation, and could possibly be heading for his 1st WDC in his rookie year.

Apelonso is under pressure as the rookie team mate is out-performing him in recent races and consistently scoring points. Not to forget all the fame he is getting.

Kimi Raikkonen is struggling to cope up and perform well in his F2007 as expected and could possibly unable to fight for the WDC at this stage of the race if he failed to gear up soon.

Filipe Massa is doing all fine at Ferrari although he is not drawing much attention regarding the WDC, and i dont think he would.
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We aren't arguing about facts. Your reading comprehension is pathetic.
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 29 2007, 10:28 PM)
Verx just being Verx  tongue.gif
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And you're just being you.
Despite the fact that u've cleaned up your act somewhat after being warned by mods, I still remember very well when u first came to LYN. I have to say I've never been impressed.


Added on June 29, 2007, 10:32 pm
QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 29 2007, 10:28 PM)
F1-Live, Formula 1.com, Planet-F1.com are not informative?
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Ah i see u have edited your post...
Sure those sites are informative IF you actually post everything they write in those sites and not just select the ones that u deem fit.

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post Jul 1 2007, 09:43 PM

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Good job by Ferrari. Credit must be given where it's due.
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jul 1 2007, 09:47 PM)
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Alonso too for his fantastic driving skill.
I can feel his desperation laugh.gif
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I thought he was too impatient...but i'm most disappointed with the strategy McLaren employed for him...I mean the guy finally overtook Heidfeld on track but still ended up behind him because he was pulled early and fuelled heavy.
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jul 2 2007, 02:03 PM)
A few factors.

1. Kimi lapping faster after Massa 2nd pit stops...22 seconds in his pocket.
2. Kimi's pit stop 7.8 seconds, Massa 9.0 seconds.

Massa says traffic is the cause.
Dunno whether Massa not good in overlapping backmarkers or Kimi's just fast.
Hope Kimi can get pole this weekend and show what he can do.
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It was definitely traffic. Massa has been quicker than Kimi all weekend and even the lap times during most of the race proved that.
Even the site that u like to quote so much, planet-f1, thinks so.
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3265_2461910,00.html
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jul 5 2007, 07:09 AM)
Wah...McLaren fans seems so quite here.
Wish to hear what they gonna say about the situation.
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Well well
Couldn't resist to throw the bait rite? Guess it's for me tongue.gif
Ferrari fans must have had a field day yesterday with all the news flying ard.
Here are my thoughts as u have so humbly requested biggrin.gif

First of all i find it very hard to believe that a man of Stepney's stature and reputation would do such a thing. He had been with Ferrari for 13 years and was one of the instrumental figures in their revival with Schumi, Brawn and gang. I'm going to say that he's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

As for McLaren, again i find it very hard to believe that a big corporation would risk so much to intentionally "steal" information from a rival team. It just doesn't make any sense. Why get into all that legal trouble? Mike Coughlan has been caught with his pants down and because of that he has brought McLaren's reputation into disrepute. I don't think the team knew much about it and that Mike have acted on his own accord. I think it's good that McLaren has so far been very cooperative on the matter and I don't think they used any of that Ferrari data found in Mike's house. Why do i think that? Because an F1 car is complex enough that u can't just steal info from another car in April, having built yours way back in 2006, and just modify yours with the new info and expect the car to suddenly fly.

So imo the suggestions that McLaren's good reliability and speed this season is because of the "stolen info" are just plain ridiculous and Ferrari fans are just being threatened by our good showing so far this season. You guys can do better than that.
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This should clear some things up

Honda confirm Stepney, Coughlan approach
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By Jonathan Noble

Honda Racing were approached by the former Ferrari engineer Nigel Stepney and McLaren's Mike Coughlan for jobs earlier this year, the team have confirmed.

"Given the speculation surrounding the legal investigations at Ferrari and McLaren, the Honda Racing F1 Team would like to clarify that earlier this year Nigel Stepney, formerly of Scuderia Ferrari, requested a meeting with Nick Fry, Chief Executive Officer of the Honda Racing F1 Team," said the team in a statement.

"Nigel Stepney subsequently met in June of this year with Nick Fry and brought with him Mike Coughlan of McLaren, with a view to investigating job opportunities within the Honda Racing F1 Team.

"Honda would like to stress that at no point during this meeting was any confidential information offered or received.

"Nick Fry informed Jean Todt and Ron Dennis of the meeting and has offered to provide any information required by Ferrari and McLaren."

The confirmation of Honda's situation, and the nature of Fry's meeting with the Stepney and Coughlan, makes it increasingly likely that the controversial affair is more about the two possibly looking at future job prospects than out-and-out espionage.

Dennis reiterated his belief that McLaren would be cleared of any wrongdoing in the matter in light of the new information, after holding a conversation with Todt and Fry earlier in the day.

"Three team principals discussed this situation this morning," he said. "Again it creates in some ways more clarity.

"I want to be very correct in this process. The first thing that I did when I first learnt of this problem was to phone Jean Todt. The second was to phone [FIA president] Max Mosley, and from the beginning we have been cooperative.

"We immediately brought independent people into the company to analyse and go through a process.

"I feel that as much as the reputation of McLaren has been challenged - and in some instances, all instances, unfairly challenged - the important thing is to set an example and to behave in a very correct way.

"I can give a full and detailed understanding to everybody about what has happened over the last few months, but it is just inappropriate. The way of the world is that all the truth comes out.

"Probably the thing that I have learned more than anything over the last few days is how fast people are prepared to jump into severe criticism of McLaren when it has had, certainly in the last 20 odd years, an impeccable reputation in every aspect of how it conducts its racing team and how it conducts its business affairs."

And, prior to Honda's confirmation of Coughlan and Stepney's approach, Dennis said: "Over the next 48 hours there will definitely be more information available to people and some of that will give a better insight into motives and what lies behind some people's actions.

"But it is not for me to criticise. We will let things unfold.

"This is all being conducted under civil law and therefore there is no police involved. But this does not mean that it does not follow a proper procedure.

"Too many people are quick to jump and criticise, and effectively condemn, but as in most things in life the truth will come out. I doubt there will be many apologies, afterwards but the truth will come out."
Source: autosport.com
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jul 7 2007, 12:05 PM)
There has been a few articles of similar headlines, and some said there has been a couple of meetings between the trio and some didnt even mention it.

What i am concerned of is the independent parties Fry mentioned about? He just said it is independent and its all in words.. so i cant really believe it unless there is exact statement of who they are.

Another doubt is the article might only clear things up for the Honda to keep themselves out from trouble regarding the Stepneygate case. The design data was still found in Mike's home and please do not tell me that he didnt even use something that is found in such quantity at his home?!

Whatever the outcome is, i have no say in who is at fault here.

I wonder when FIA would introduce the one car rule whistling.gif
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Autosport is a more reliable source than most. And the fact that Honda came out with an official statement meant that Stepney and Coughlan were in fact planning for their "future roles". Trying to imply anything further than that is very speculative and just wishful thinking on the part of Ferrari fans imo.

For me now, the question i want answered is did Mike Coughlan steal data from McLaren as well.
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Guys, if u guys really want to watch it live u can watch it via streaming
I just set up mine (dling the prog and all) took me abt 5 mins only
http://www.myp2p.eu/

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