Forget about the second dentist... I suspect he is just normal dentist, not a certified orthodontists. Secondly, not every orthodontists can use Damon system. They need to perform training and get the certification by damon company.

I believe the dentist don't have Damon system at his klinik, so, he just hard sell his traditional braces.

If you want to be confident, you may try to get advice Dr. How@Bangsar ? You can rest assure for his knowledge and skill.

Fyi, our upper & lower teeth should not touch each other when close our mouth. The lower teeth will "hide" a bit at the back of upper teeth.
To make the result good, normally we wear the braces on upper and lower teeth, so that it can adjust accordingly.

If family can't affort, then wait till you are working and earn the money to place the braces. Don't over push your parent ya.. There are a lot working adult here, I am the one too.. My family is poor.. so, I have to earn money myself to make my dream come true.. No worry ya..

hmm.yup ur rite...i thk i'll have to postpone dat afta i graduate.somehow, i can understand how my parents feel, and i wouldn wnt to burden them as well..haiz, another 2 years to wait... ....erm, i've actually read up every post in this thread and have been heard bout Dr.How for being an experienced ortho....just dat i tot damon system is common nowadays, and i tot i could find it in other dental clinic as well (especially near my area) ...coz bangsar is abit too far from my place.....but from wat i experienced yesterday, i thk i better make my way to Dr.How ba....dunwan to get cheated and got frightened by other so called 'Professional' dentist anymore...to be honest, both of them suddenly make me scare of doing braces eh....Sigh... ....try consult him sin den only decide ba...

ohya...its thr any charge for 1st time walk in?? i mean for Dr.Hows

This post has been edited by barium: May 1 2010, 02:53 AM

ya. just do it after grad if you cant do it now. i have also delayed my dream to have a nice set of teeth.

i'm getting my teeth done in David Orthodontist, a recommendation from my friend and the dentist I visited. location is quite convenient for me

like what kentcp said, for normal bite, the bottom teeth will hide behind the upper teeth.
i am unfortunate to have underbite problem where the bottom teeth is slightly in front of the upper teeth.

did some research regarding underbite and i was unhappy to see ppl having underbite problem need to undergo jaw surgery.
luckily the orthodontist didnt say anything about jaw surgery during the consultation.

barium if you consult Dr How, he will ask you to do an x-ray first, so he can fully understand your condition. He charges RM80 for each x-ray & it comes up to a sum of RM240


This post has been edited by Shenay: May 1 2010, 12:14 PM

Shenay is correct.. However, if you decide to perform treatment at his klinik, he will waive the consultantion fee. so, to save $, wait till you decide to place the braces then only visit him. Unless you willing to spend few hundred ringgit for nothing.(after 2 years, your teeth may moved, need to take x-ray again)

No worries, my dear. Not every family can afford their children to go for ortho treatment. I'm on treatment now and i'm a working adult too. We cant afford to go for treatment when we were younger. Until we were working and able to earn income. My younger cousin did her treatment in her secondary school, Her parent didnt support financially and physically too. But she is very determined. She work part time to earn the fees for ortho treatment and she finally did.

So, dont worry so much. If your family cant afford, be patient till you can afford. Anyway, i think RM5000 for traditional type is a bit expensive.

To : Den
sori for my bad english guys....i thk i mention wrongly my problem....i mean for my case, 1 of my bottom teeth actually touched the gum of the upper teeth but it still is behind the upper teeth...dats wat the doctor told me....wanted to post my pic, but i dono how... hard to describe tho...

To: Shenay :

oic...thx for d info

To:Kentcp
har!! plz dun move again !!! plz plz

NikkiDaTeddy :
yea, i understand dat....sigh, if i'm able to do now, by 2 years time, i would have finished my treatment edy....oh well...mayb i shud go work partime oso.....

hi guys, i had already took off my braces 2 yrs ago, but now my two front teeth is like 'coming out' abit(sry i duno wat to say in english). now the dentist try adjust it bak 4 me by letting me wear a container tat jz has a steel in front of it(again i duno wat it called lol, sry) n it can be take off by my self. it is extremely hard 4 me to talk n had a lot of saliva in it, the dentist asked me to wear it at least 16 hr per day to get used to it n he wil only start adjust it 4 me nxt mth. any1 have the same experience like me? m thinking of giving it up, haiz..

you mean retainer?

an advice from many ppl: after take off the braces, must rajin-rajin wear the retainer.

if i understand u correctly, 1 of ur bottom teeth touches the gum of upper teeth, means quite serious overbite/underbite already. from what i know, it definitely requires braces at both top and bottom.

Dr. How is a highly qualified, knowledgeable, up to date and experienced orthodontist. You should get consultation from him and I agree with kentcp, go only if you are ready to put it on soon.

In fact, if you are not financially ready yet. Just put this aside, and think about it again when u r ready. Who knows, 2 years later, there will be a newer, better and cheaper technology. Then you'll need to research and survey all over again.

As for what age to do braces, I do think that better do it when you are still studying, if you can afford. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with doing it after you started earning $$$, I'm a 28 yrs old working adult, I don't face much problem with having braces on, although quite a number of ppl asked me, "why so old only do braces?". Anyway, 18-24 months can pass quite fast, after tat we'll have brand new and perfect set of teeth!

p/s: to post a pic, you'll see a "File Attachments" section as you scroll down further when replying to a post. then browse for the picture and click "add this attachment".

oo.....heres my pic.....so how do u ol thk?? really got serious overbite problem??? OMG!!




This post has been edited by barium: May 2 2010, 01:48 AM

dont worry. overbite problem is easier to handle than underbite.
between, normally you bite with your teeth behind?

This post has been edited by den: May 2 2010, 08:54 AM

ya, don't worry, it's not difficult to handle, but normally need braces both top and bottom.

some info on overbite: http://www.drashouri.com/overbite.html

den
u mean my bottom teeth?? yaya, it still is behind whrn i bite....but not like totally hide from d front teeth lor....those pic i saw in google image is scary tho...they like no bottom teeth....totally covered by their upper front teeth..


karynkhoo..
ytd when i c ur words, i was like so gancheong !! and keep go find info bout overbite problems......den i realize actually most of d people have overbite problem....as long as its not too serious, then its still ok....even barrack obama has overbite problem fyi, and he still look sexy with his smile...was so relieved afta dat....dun really mind bout d overbite problem anymore.....JUZ D 2 TEETH IS ANNOYING !!!! ARGH !!!!

This post has been edited by barium: May 2 2010, 01:29 PM

from ur photos, ur overbite doesn't seem very serious la. normally ppl won't bother it. only those orthodontist will see it as a problem. last time i din know about it also until dr. how said i've overbite problem. it's just that, if u have decided to do braces, might as well fix everything tat can be fixed at the same time. sun bian ma

hi, thx 4 reply. haha i guess it is called retainer. after de-brace 2 yrs ago i rajin rajin wear the retainer for 1 yr but den stop alre. end up now the teeth moving a bit n nid to adjust again according to the dentist, i nid to wear it all day for at least 3 mth when adjusting period n after tat only i can jz wear it at nite...

no, i mean like when you eat noodles, do you bite the noodles with front teeth or you use those teeth at the side to bite?
or u eat kuaci.. u use the side teeth to bite right?

cause normally i eat kuaci, i have to use the side teeth.


wear retainer for 1 year also will move again?
like that next time i wear for 2 years.

i heard retainer need to wear for life-time 1, i mean at night...

Hi guys, I have been reading this forum for the past few months. and i feel like i know you guys personally already! especially, kentcp and nikki :-)

Thanks to your recommendations here in the forum, I found Dr How. And 6 weeks ago, i finally had the courage to take the first step. I'm so glad I did, and I'm even more grateful to have found this forum.

I had a gap on my 2 front teeth which widen up as I aged, and I have been hiding from my smiles since then. And because, I'm getting married end of next year, I just had to get it fixed!! I'm soo happy to see the progress :-)

Congrats, for ur courage and wedding.

Dun worry, ur case sound like a minor case. I'm sure u'll finish ur treatment very fast.