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kentcp
post Jan 4 2008, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Dec 23 2007, 10:11 AM)
Apart from Q-CAre in tddi, where can one get Damon 3 braces?
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I found one at Bangsar, having a branch at Taman Maluri. Quoted me ~RM5.6k - RM5.8 for Damon 3.(exclude RM220 diag report x2 (before & after) & any extract) )

I am still seeking if any other dentist is cheaper for Damon 3. Do let me know if you know ya..

Thanks
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post Jan 23 2008, 07:15 PM

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At last, I installed my braces at Bangsar on last Monday. Just on upper teeth first, the lower will do it on later stage.


Added on January 23, 2008, 7:18 pm
QUOTE(lenn @ Jan 21 2008, 11:07 PM)
my bottom teeth are not really straight. top one are just OK. so can i just wear on bottom only? and how much would it cost? n can i pay monthly, meaning paying on evry appointment? or should pay deposit 1st? frm klang valley.
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Lenn, Just visit the dentist, they will quote you and let you know how much per visit. You can just do the braces for lower teeth without upper teeth. However, you did dentist to consult you. They are expert...

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post Jan 24 2008, 11:11 PM

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I am taking Damon 3 system (consider new system), so a bit expensive than tranditional type.

<<I can't post any referral link, if u need to know damon 3, you can seach net or PM me>>

The cost is about RM5800, they give me RM200 discount due to I am their regular customer.

1st time visit payment is RM 970 for
. RM 750 deposit
. RM 200 - 2 X-ray, mold & photo

2nd visit payment is RM750 plus misc (auto/manual tooth bush, toothpaste, etc - depend on what you buy)
. RM 750 deposit
. RM ??? -misc cost
. They will install braces on this visit and ask you to sign contract agreement.

3rd visit onwards is installment plan (~RM300) & braces adjustment for total of another 14 visits. Last visit will pay around RM200.

The dentist: How's Orthodontics & Dental Surgery

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post Jan 26 2008, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(lenn @ Jan 25 2008, 08:32 PM)
very much detailed. thanks.. if u would hv braces, i would just have the normal braces, the traditional one.. bcz my teeth are not really in the bad condition.. and i more, its more cheaper than damon3.. do u knw how much it cost for traditional braces at the clinic u go?
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I remember they quoted ~RM4800 ++ for full braces. Suggest you walk in. First time consult is FOC.
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post Feb 12 2008, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(superooneyoi @ Feb 11 2008, 03:10 PM)
so far i did my research, the cheapest is 3.5 and normal one is 5k.
just wonderin if u guys do the colorful braces or normal one?
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I do the normal one (Damon 3 system). Colourful one is for lady / kids ? According to dentist, the transparent is look nice, more expensive but it take longer time to complete. So, suggest go for normal one and take Damon 3 system if your financial can effort tongue.gif


Some info on Damon system smile.gif Hope help smile.gif

The Damon System is not just a new product, it's a whole new way of treating patients. Conventional treatment often requires removal of healthy teeth and/or the use of palatal expanders to make space. This approach is often uncomfortable, takes longer, and can leave a narrower arch and a flat profile. Damon smiles are full, natural 10-tooth smiles achieved with light biologically-sensible forces, and are specifically designed to improve the overall facial result of each patient.

Braces are the beginning, but the system makes the smile.

Certified Damon System doctors combine three key components, which when used together, deliver faster treatment, fewer appointments, greater comfort, and consistent high-quality results:

1. Damon passive self-ligating braces that eliminate the need for elastic or metal "ties". With Damon tie-less braces you can experience treatment without tightening.

2. Light high-technology shape-memory wires that move teeth faster and require fewer adjustments.

3. A new clinically proven treatment approach that aligns your teeth and enhances your facial aesthetics - usually without extractions or rapid palatal expanders.


Conventional braces on the left are tied in with elastics, which cause friction and pressure, making treatment slower and less comfortable. Damon braces use a slide mechanism to hold the wire, which allows teeth to move more freely, quickly and comfortably.

Damon braces are designed to be discreet, comfortable and easy to keep clean. Without the elastic ties which attract and collect plaque, Damon braces make dental hygiene easy during treatment.

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post Feb 15 2008, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(min_min @ Feb 14 2008, 01:23 PM)
Stumbled into this thread...
omg i didnt knw there's thing Damon thing...
had my braces when i was in form 3...
let's c...7 years back?  shocking.gif  gosh it's been so long!!!
did it for arnd 3k and had in on for 3 years...

i had rabbit teeth plus what we usually call "vampire's tooth" at my upper jaw
and there's another tooth located right behind one of my front tooth
yep, my condition was horrible
i couldnt actually bite properly with my front teeth... (eating wantan mee is a horrible process coz the noodles r vry thin)
the orthodontist told me that he would need to extract 4 of my teeth, "expand" my upper jaw, and of course there were many other processes

after the braces were removed, i waited for 1 week for d retainer to be done
and during tht period my front teeth already started to move!  cry.gif
my 2 front teeth kinda moved a lil in front 
the orthodontist then tried to kinda forcefully push em back  shakehead.gif  and pushed on the retainer  shakehead.gif
i chose the transparent retainer, broke it and got the metal 1  sweat.gif

and now, after so many years, i still nid 2 wear a retainer at night coz the damn teeth keeps movin'  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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OMG.. after so many year, the teeth still can moving ? Hmm..so troublesome..sad.gif

the transparent retainer easy to broke ? caused by drop down? since it wear on night time at home, why the retainer need transparent ? (Sorry, i don't know how it look like tongue.gif )
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post Feb 19 2008, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(min_min @ Feb 15 2008, 12:17 PM)
yep, i guess it's bcoz i grind my teeth at night  sad.gif
chose the transparent 1 bcoz initially need to wear it day n night for arnd few weeks if nt mistaken
the orthodontist didnt charge me for the replacement retainer though~must have earned enough  laugh.gif
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Mind to PM me your retainer? Just curious..envy those ppl who borned with nice teeth tongue.gif
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post Mar 5 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(cyN @ Mar 5 2008, 07:43 PM)
do we need 2 extract our teeth for damon 3??????
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normally, no need to extract your teeth. Unless too serous..anyhow, the dental who have that system will able to consult you. no worry smile.gif

mine one on second month plus..next week is third month.. i can see the teeth is adjusted a bit

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post Mar 12 2008, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(sazzzhi @ Mar 12 2008, 09:13 PM)
smile.gif i just got my braces at how's orthodontic. i go for ''Clippy-C''-invisible one. My condition: One of my front tooth
45degree senget  outward. Dr said this Clippy-C is the advanced version of Damon3. Less pain & faster result.
doctor put the braces on the upper side first.(he said put the lower side on next month)

the 5th day, the wire come out from the last bracket on my upper left side. I left it like that for 2days, then I make appointment to the doctor to fix it.
For my surprise, the wire of my front teeth did not move, even though the wire behind lose and out of the last bracket..
I think this is what they call it ''self-ligating'? sweat.gif
Actually i'm wondering what different between 'self-ligating' with normal one? I don't really understand the idea.
can someone clear me out? icon_question.gif  i asked my doctor, but he said that it's not 'automatic adjusting/tightening'.. doh.gif

For invisible or visible bracket, its depend on ppl on preferences la..but, i did not regret take the invisible one, coz, ppl hardly can see the i wear braces(especially when take photo icon_rolleyes.gif ,in certain distance..not very close-up la)..and the bracket is smaller thumbup.gif ..so,its more easily to get used to it and close mouth(i face d difficulties to talk and close mouth in the 1st week)
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that's all.just sharing smile.gif
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Hey, I also went there today.. for my 2nd visits appointment.. Didn't see you tongue.gif

Today, Dr. put a "bite stop" behind my front teeth. Now, my back teeth can't touch each other when close my mouth.. I have to find a way to from today onwards.. Going to thiner and thiner.. sweat.gif

today is 3rd month.. i can see my teeth is move slightly in..if press the teeth, it can move a bit tongue.gif

"Damon passive self-ligating brackets allow freedom of movement and thus faster results with gentler forces(less painful)."
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"Elastic ligatures create friction and binding and require more force (painful) and more-frequent adjustments."

http://www.ormco.com/index/damon-thesystem...iveselfligation

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post Mar 26 2008, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(green_apple @ Mar 25 2008, 09:38 PM)
wah... got more canggih than Damon 3 dy aarr... good good..


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I remember the Dr put the bite stop before.. chewing was hard.. but I still manage to eat a few days later.. coz I ganas... hehehe...

nowadays if I goyang my teeth using my fingers, it will goyang lah... I guess it's normal...
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How to eat ? Since the day i putting the "bite stop", i can take rice or anything require to chew.. what i can do for my lunch and dinner is cook porridge, then put in vege, meal or fish into blender and blend together.. then eat..

next thusday will go to Lang Tengah for 4D3N trips.. i don't know how to settle my meal sad.gif

you ganas still can eat, i believe the gap between upper and lower teeth is quite near ba.. my case is not..
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post Mar 31 2008, 03:11 AM

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[quote=green_apple,Mar 30 2008, 11:12 PM]
freaking out is normal... I freaked out too... laugh.gif

damon 3 also need to extract aar?? what's the difference between damon 3 and Innovation anyway???


Added on March 30, 2008, 11:14 pm

Damon 3 should no need to extract teeth unles your teeth is too serious/ double / over lap teeth.. then need to extract one teeth to give some space.


Added on March 31, 2008, 8:03 pm[quote=piggy0406,Mar 30 2008, 07:13 AM]
Hi all~

I'm done with my braces around 2 years ago... guess i can share some of my experiences here ....

i'm having a nice teeth after being suffered for 1 and the half year ....

about the extraction of teeth question, actually most of my frens including me did need extraction of healthy teeth due to normally the untidy growing fo teeth is due to they dont have enough spaces to grow accordingly.

U'll probaly suffer pain in the very first week since your teeth are trying to adjust but the later on days you'll only suffer a bit pain for around 3 days (for my case) after each month appointment to tighten ur braces.

Hope it helps ^^.
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Can see your teeth is so nice.. envy..


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QUOTE(kentcp @ Mar 31 2008, 03:11 AM)
Can see your teeth is so nice.. envy..


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post Mar 31 2008, 10:54 PM

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[quote=Elayne,Mar 30 2008, 01:44 PM]
Hmm..understood. But putting on braces means put it on both up and down? I saw got a friend of mine,she said the dentist tighten her upper teeth 1st then later on only do the lower part. It is to lessen the pain doing that way? Before doing braces,the dentist will pluck out some of your teeth right? It is the last teeth,the bigger ones? Coz recently I have 2 new grown teeth at the last corner there,senget ones sad.gif How to cabut oh..painful>.< And how much do u paid at the 1st sessions? Pay in 1 go or pay it everytime u visited the dentist? Thank you for the helping tips,at least i know rclxms.gif


For my case, Dr. How is install brace on my upper teeth first. He can't install the brace on my lower teeth because i have a deep bite when close my mouth. Not sure when he will install at my lower teeth. I believe everyone condition is defferent, so, we may have slight defferent treament. At the end of day, still advice to get consultant from dentist. We are here only can provide those info that we know only smile.gif


Added on March 31, 2008, 10:57 pm[quote=sazzzhi,Mar 30 2008, 12:23 PM]
sorry late reply . i went there at 5pm smile.gif maybe next time can meet..kakaka..next week will be my 2nd appointment,,,,sked.. shocking.gif
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oh.. my schedule is on 1pm.. Always need to wait sad.gif

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post Apr 2 2008, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Elayne @ Apr 1 2008, 08:12 PM)
Waaa...can cost till 20k de ar?!! shocking.gif  Till 4 k already very very exp for me who gona pay it with own money.
Sakit hati but what to do..want my teeth to look better lor smile.gif  20k,it is that dentist makan duit ka? What cost till that much oh?.. ohmy.gif
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No worry, those expensive stuff is for those who want fix at inner teeth. For my Damon 3, i paid for RM5,600 but break into 14 times installment. Green apply is correct, this cost not include to buy electronics brush and others thing smile.gif
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post Apr 7 2008, 05:10 PM

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i also dont know the difference for Damon and In-Ovation but according to Dr How both works the same and both also same price...just that Damon is from Us and In-Ovation from japan...but I google it and found that both also looks the same to me and does the same job wor..but he say from Japan i dont see any "japan" word in the site lor...and then I ask the gal at the front desk Lia, she say most ppl take inovation wor...gaah...i dont know how and what to decide...so Dr How's patients, how do you find him?..Ok ?..If ok then set la, am goin to the battlefield next week...need to fork out some money too...and need to keep telling myself "its worth it" over and over again...need all da support from you guys..~~!! jia youuu jia youu~~
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To me, i found Dr. How is good and knowledgeable on this field lo.. Like i want to temporary remove my "bite stop" , kena said for few min.. and no more second time...I know he want the result.. if i keep asking him to remove, it will delay the process..
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post Apr 10 2008, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(sazzzhi @ Apr 10 2008, 05:16 PM)
Hey, just want to share, I went for 2nd appointment last week. I can see my gigi moved-inward alot d ah..only in 1month can see so difference result. (if compared with the picture before, my house mate said so)
Lastime when take photo.sure can see got one tooth reflection(coz one of my tooth 45degree outward).
Now not visible ady..
very fast can see different.
Dr How said if talks alot(alot mouth movement) , it will help the progress faster..So,proven la..coz my occupation is sales,so talk alot, result oso faster...Im actually fascinated by the result in just 1month! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Dr How just help me to change the string to 0.16 on yesterday. Now, my front teeth is pain. He said he is kind to me not to put bite stop on this month. Next month (4th month), he will put the bite stop and install the braces on my lower teeth. My mum ask me to stop it because she saw i getting thiner and thiner, she feel pain in heart. I said don't mention this anymore but give me more support.. i really need lot of supports for me to continue it.. That's why i always log to here..from this forum, a lot ppl are same like me..i know i do the right thing, no matter how "suffer" i am..smile.gif
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post Apr 12 2008, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(sazzzhi @ Apr 12 2008, 08:05 PM)
pain oni in the initial few days oni la..tat's for me la..coz diff ppl diff de..
anyway,,just front teeth pain abit,,and the behind wire cucuk my mouth causing pain jelo..but, doc wil give one kinda wax(safe to eat--but not advisable la..it will melt when hot water/food in,so remove it bfore eat)
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Sazzzhi, thanks for your support (i really need it) ..smile.gif the behind wire, u can ask Dr. How to cut it short.. it happenned to me as well.. caused my inner mouth a lot "hole", so, i ask Dr. how to cut it short and paste some glue to close the end of string. I never use the wax lo.. if you need, can take from me in FOC.

Hope help.
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post Apr 13 2008, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(green_apple @ Apr 13 2008, 08:32 PM)
I also just changed the string on my bottom teeth. wah, really pain when eating.. somemore the next day (after the appointment) my mum prepared fried chicken! I still eat it though.. although took like 45 minutes to finish that 1 piece....  doh.gif

but hoh... since wearing braces, I really get thinner leh.. good side-effect... hahahahah  laugh.gif


Added on April 13, 2008, 8:34 pm
I remember when I first put the braces.. can't talk properly... pronunciation not clear... especially anything that begins with "SH" sound.. later ok dy....
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Those gal out there, if you want to keep fit, you may consider to install braces.. but not for guys (Guy too thin not nice)..haha..I wish get fater but with braces.. haii..sad.gif will go to gym next week. rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(sazzzhi @ Apr 14 2008, 07:41 PM)
im sad..braces=did not work on me..i thought it would help me diet as well..
maybe i eat too much..im gaining weight(10kgs) since last 6months...and even I just got my braces for 1month++ , but my weight seem increasing..
aiyoo...cham la...
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ohmy.gif 10kgs ! Erm.. you must evaluate on your daily food intake wor.. Anyhow, this is not a right thread to discuss your food intake.. Take care there..


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QUOTE(kentcp @ Apr 15 2008, 09:09 AM)
ohmy.gif 10kgs ! Erm.. you must evaluate on your daily food intake wor.. Anyhow, this is not a right thread to discuss your food intake.. Take care there..
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PM me how you make it happen, if it is heathy enuff, i want learn from you ah.. i need some weight gain..

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post Apr 17 2008, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(mennmenn @ Apr 17 2008, 09:09 PM)
jz put on my braces today..^^..starts aching now..
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after 2~3 days should be fine smile.gif

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