OPss.. am I hard sell on Dr. How ?   I am hard sell on Damon system 3 for sure ..  haha.. it is new technology, fast and less pain compare to tranditional one..

The doctor ma.. I feel he treat good to his client lo..that's y i recommend him to other.

The prices, The initial quote to me on Damon 3 is RM5800 as well. I suggest you negotiate with Dr How..of course, u have to confirm the deal, then he only can negotiate.. depend on your bargain skill la.. Even the consultation fee will waive if u confirm the deal.

Hey Everyone!

haha...studies have been sooo busy,i didnt have the time to post-up the huge decision announcement.
I finally emBRACEd myself..haha i got them on 18th of Sept 08.Dr.Hows...i am on Clippy-C/In-Ovation C brackets braces.So far so good..Total cost is RM6,500.

it has been a week since i had my braces on..

the first three days was hell for me,i cant chew..huhuhuh i was swallowing stuff,and when i accidently clench my teeth,ill get that JOLT feeling haha...it doesnt exactly hurt,but enough to cause me to freeze with my eyes wide open.haha..and my hands would always be covering my mouth...thank god for painkillers.
but overall,its not the oh-my-gosh-what-an-execution kinda pain and suffering haha,still can stand them(maybe cuz its not the traditional metal ones?)

Talkin wasnt awkward or hard,but the 'full mouth' feeling and the brackets frictioning on my inner lips is really awkward,its like stuffing an orange slice(with the skin) in my mouth and capping them on my teeth kinda feeling.Im starting to get ulcers,bt trying my darnest to avoid them.Its weird how comfortable the ceramic brackets are compared to the metal ones far behind,huhuhuh.

Knowing theyre almost unnoticeable in a certain distance,facing the public wasnt a huge prob as i thought it would be.But i was kinda scared haha...my friend was like "naahh,its not as bad as we thought it would turn out to be".

Yesterday i started being able to chew and that "sudden pressure" feeling is now gone.You know,that feeling where u felt like theres somthing pushing ur teeth all the time,its almost gone now.Im still trying to chew properly tho,cuz although im chewing,it wasnt properly chewing.But i had KFC chicken today and my friend was shocked to see me be able to finish it all up! hahaha..

Next appointment is on the 16th of next month.Cant wait to start seeing the teeth move.haha i know i know..too early,but i dont know,just happy i finally got to fix this problem haha..When do u start seeing changes? hehe jst curious.Dr.How was really nice and friendly.But i am under the care of Dr.Yong,bt Dr.How does check on me.huhuh

OWH I forgot to mention i bit on a bracket accidently on the first night i got them HAHAHAHHAHAHAH...it came off the tooth!.i got it fixed now tho.haha Dr.How fixed it..i went to fix it on my third day with braces.

i have a couple of Q's...how to like heal the ulcers? any tips or tricks ?theyre getting deeper.and without dental wax(which was heaven sent) im constantly in a very uncomfortable state.I tried not having to rely on them,but i just couldnt last 5 mins without them.Owh and concerning the electric brush thingy,is it okay to buy any type of electric brush or theres like a special 'orthodontic electric toothbrush'?  The one at Dr.Hows was about rm200++,i saw one in Watson's around Rm25.88 ...which to buy?

Ill be updating!
p/s: Dr Suggested a bitestop for me at one point cuz he said that one of my teeth,when i bite,is biting on a bracket..but i really2 begged him not to.hahaha.but its okay now...and he suggested the screws that ken got,i was like "WHOA!"...he sez we'll see in the middle of the treatment whether i need them or not.and yes,he suggested extractions too...hes giving me 4 months to see how my teeth move,then itll be decided...

So hope my braces will come off before JUly 2010..ill graduating then! haha
Take Care Ppl!

Wow .. a long message..can feel u r excited like what i am last time.. haha..

u choose the clear type braces ah.. expensive ..but seem like u have enuff budget here..

ulcer..u can use the Listerine to control it. Talkless lo.. dun laugh too much.. this is how i prevent la..after some time, the skin will use to it.. oya.. drink more water..once body heat up, sure will easy get ulcer.

I believe 1 or 1.5 months onwards, u will see the change on your teeth

take care !

Nikki,dats a very very good idea.I Got my braces the next day after i went for consultation.Cuz i dont have enuff convenience to get from cyberjaya to bangsar back and forth often.So i missed out alot of good food that im surely goin to miss (like three days ago i felt like eating chocolate but i stopped my self T.T ..bt who cares,i want to lose weight! haha) So eat eat and eat!! haha

Aiight,just call me Ronnie btw. hehe Baby_Boi's jst a nick.Im feeling pretty good now,either my teeth moved a little,or i am used to the pressure feeling.Chewing still is accompanied with a little bit of Aching on the teeths far behind.But i can eat alot of stuff now,but i have to have them in pieces. hehe but overall.im okay now,jst dealing with the ulcers,and getting use to food stuck in my braces..grrr.When i clench,my teeth felt loose and jelly like haha.

My treatment period,is estimated to be around 1.5 yrs. Hope itll be faster than that. huhuh Fingers Crossed.My teeth condition.I dont know how to describe it.I Have some pictures here of me,wayy before the braces.And with the braces on. ..Even in the pics with braces,u can see my teeth before treatment,cuz i just got my braces for 1 week++ haha..

Totally lovin the transparency!

Ist and 2nd pics are with braces,the third one is a week before braces.u can see the upper teeth only huhuh,but the lower ones are major too..protruding and sum r overlapping bt slighty (jst like the upper ones) But that one buck tooth(upper teeth)is seriously pissing me off.But i still can close my lips tho,so it isnt too bucky hahaha..

Owh and uh Ken,u hv the screws rite? can u tell me all about them? what to expect,how they r,how they r placed etc etc..im scared of getting them (two reasons,the PAIN and the COST)

ive got sumthing to share:

http://ceramicbraces.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html

that lady that posts the blog,sez that her ortho didnt perform extraction on her,but instead,filed specific teeths to allow all to fit.This is very good..wonder if dr can do this on me instead.Whatchu guys think?

Hey Nikki.Now u make sure u post the very same day u get "BRACED" hehehe..wow..Im totally against the idea of extractions u know.I Mean,im losing 4 healthy teeth,dts such a big concern.Since im still in my 4 Months trial period,to see how my teeth move,i still hv time whether to decide on Both Extraction and the Screws.(He suggested two screws for upper and two screws for lower btw.)

  For the extraction part,he suggested my bicuspids (2 from upper,2 from lower) and my Wisdoms.(Upper and lower) ... But he was sort of in doubt himself during the consultation,he sez i might need or might not need extraction.Its up to how many teeth can be contained in my jaw.Bt i seriously pray to god that i dont have to extract any tho.The screws,Dr ensured they dont hurt that bad,bt he sez the painful part is for your wallet,its expensive per screw.

  Now the ulcers..well guess what,i dont really need them Dental Wax anymore!!! cuz i think my cheeks have 'toughened' up.But im sure after my first adjustment (16th oct) wires will start poking and the dental wax will come in handy once more.huhuhu.Just follow what ken said (excluding less talking+laughing,cuz i cant get fun outta my system,AT ALL hahaha),i applied bonjela often,and cover the brackets with dental wax.

  In a way im glad getting braces,and wish that they hurt MORE.Cuz itll totally stop me from eatin,which will result in weightloss! haha..i know its crazy.but yea..huhuhuhuhuh...Well Nikki,yea,lets keep updating each other heheh..i dont know who will finish first,but whatever or whenever it is,i wish both of us Best,Satisfying results in the end   

  Yea tho,filling can thin up the enamel surface,but im sure the dentist didnt file it up to 'that' point.That'll make the teeth freaking sensitive to stuff! haha..but then again,yea ill try asking Dr How,but i really really pray i dont need extractions.I Dont want a narrow smile. T.T

Keep updating ppl! Take Care

Selamat Hari Raya Aidilfitri,Maaf Zahir & Batin to Muslims. have a big,huge,happening Raya!
Im goin back to sabah today for Raya,about 1 week freedom from college.YAY! haha. And showing off my latest personal Accessory! haha.

you can request the Dr to cut the addition wire more shorter..  after few week, when the teeth move in, the last wire will become even longer to poke your cheeks.

hahaha hye NIkki!
Well,thats the same reason why i kinda wished itll hurt more..cuz the cravings are jst uncontrollable..dont know why hahaha...and its always the ones that u had to like avoid.hahaha...but after eating like a pig during raya.i had no problems now.abt the wires,i guess the wires would jst poke during the first few days getting them? cuz my wires dont poke anymore,dunno bout after my next appointment tho.My next appointment is next week..waiting..huhuhuhu

owh forgot! Nikki! post up the pics! 

phew...    great novelists are talking...hehe

I had my upper part fixed last month and now waiting for the lower part which is going to be on this coming 17th. I met Dr. How twice already and he took pictures after fixing my teeth. Is he going to take pictures on every appointment? If so, will he print the pictures out and let us keep them? I remember last time the receptionist said she forgot to print the pictures of my 1st visit. She'll give the pictures later on my next visit.

Another thing, how come I don't have dental wax? It's not in the package 
I paid ~RM80 for the package which includes:
1 x Ortho brush
2 x Pearl Drops toothpaste
1 x Oral B mouth rinse
5 x Futuristic brush-like toothpicks
1 x Medicine for ulcer

Or I need to buy it separately?

Thanks.

haha maybe not yet? jkjk  *touch wood*
aww i cant wait to get my teeth done like u guys!  my first appointment is next 2 weeks

NikkiDaTeddy: I usually apply the med right before I go to bed so that I don't really taste it..hehe. The weird thing about the med is, it says POISON, DO NOT EAT. Weird right? I guess tasting a bit is fine 

This is the one that I'm using:

Not sure about yours but mine I just instantly apply it. No need water mixing.

My friend told me that I could get this kind of med from 7E but I forgot what the brand is.

DO NOT SWALLOW? Just apply it.. Don't swallow 

everyone is uploading their photos~
i wanna but bleah, it's only been a few days and there's no teeth movement yet

owh?? like that lah. He never told me about it... but it's ok lah, as long as don't show my face loh. wahahahahahaha
eh? you all so "semangat" post pictures wan...... good good! 

Yo Nikki! wohoooo gimme 5 sistah! we r in the same club! (same type of brackets)
dang! its been awhile,the forum spread to 2 pages already!!! 
i got sum dumb internet billing probs..huhuh i cant wait to be active again.

Im officiallly 1 month in braces and tomorrow is my 1st appoinment! yay!

Yea,nikki,mine is 6.5k ...how much is yours? the nurse sed sumthin about clippy-c metal ones,around 4.5k..
and no,i didnt forget ur pixies..muahaha

somethings really fishy goin on...dats ofcourse if urs is cheaper considering that we have the same system in our mouth.(could it be that the price varies according to case?)
Owh and okay,ive been in them for weeks,but at times i still get bracket scratches on my inner lip,like they got irritated for no reason,i end having to rely on the dental wax again,is this normal? i have one ulcer cuz of that ad im covering the others with dental wax cuz i dont want more..

im really,really excited to see changes...cant wait for the coming months.i guess u start loving them braces when you see change hahahha..

haha...i kinda forgot to take the pic of me without braces~
yaya~same here...i also drink some sorta shake...and cant chew properly too~!

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Added on October 17, 2008, 12:15 pmi got such a weird dream few days back..
many of my brackets tercabut...
worse,i was at home (in sabah,now i'm in gombak) so cannot do anything abt it...my denstist is in pj~
worst,it was the 1st day of my 6 weeks break...so have to wait for 6 weeks to get it fixed...

then i woke up and rush to the mirror,checking the braces..
thank god its still perfect~!

phew,what a dream..

Do you brush your teeth after eating ?

I don't have the bleeding problem.. You may check with Doctor on your case. 

Normally, the appointment is every month. For my case, it always first Tuesday of the month.

omg poke fingers also can bleed?

then inner cheek is super thinner than fingers, then.. then..

next monday is my appt, now scary lar hear the poking wire 

No, i didn't take leave.. just tell my boss that i will go out for an hour dental checkup and it is near to lunch time... My boss is ok with it.

Ya..it is sharp.. my finger also get poke before too..

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Added on October 30, 2008, 11:00 pm
haha.. a good supportive word.. ya.. you are right !!

Yott Chan,
u need to step out.. think this way.. if u need do it, the whole life will remain the same image of your teeth.. but if u try to wear braces..your teeth surely change !!!  U can see them getting move and straight after a month or two!! that feeling only the bracer know.. it is damn supper glad mood

Whoever still thinking should do or not do.. come on, give a try.. Everyone also wish to smile with nice teeth, right?! You still want to smile with a hand cover mouth or try not to open lips when smile ? or whenever u smile, u feel ppl look on your teeth, u feel nervous?  To me, all this was over.. I am dare to smile now with my braces.. my teeth is straight now.. and i believe my friend/colleague don't dare to laugh on my braces. As i just notice around 50% of ppl out there dun have a straight, neat and nice teeth.. Surprising me..only notice after i wear braces. May be last time my teeth is worst than them.. now my teeth is better than them, so only can notice that haha..

Oppss// write too much   good night.