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 -+♠+-LYN Proton Persona IAFM Owners Club V55-+♠+-, The besi buruk counting it's days.

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post Nov 3 2018, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Oct 11 2018, 03:01 PM)
What is your transmission.
Do you check the RPM meter reading when car choking?
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yes , it decrease abit then back to normal again... cry.gif
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post Nov 3 2018, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 3 2018, 10:30 AM)
Weird sound from my intake now, sent to workshop this morning and the mechanic confirmed me that the unit need to be replace or repair. But he suggested me to look around the KV as the price in Melaka is pretty expensive. Even the china made also at rm500+.
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You might want to check with Zordaq see if they got kawan in Melaka knows how to fix IAFM. If your IAFM shaft not yet broken then still can repair punya.

Worst case is to visit their KL outlet for the fix. Zordaq JB charged me RM50 for the repair.
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post Nov 3 2018, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Nov 3 2018, 12:31 PM)
yes , it decrease abit then back to normal again...  cry.gif
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Not yet fix bro?
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post Nov 3 2018, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Nov 3 2018, 09:47 PM)
You might want to check with Zordaq see if they got kawan in Melaka knows how to fix IAFM. If your IAFM shaft not yet broken then still can repair punya.

Worst case is to visit their KL outlet for the fix. Zordaq JB charged me RM50 for the repair.
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I see thanks, I read a workshop in Melaka do provide the IAFM services, but they haven't reply my message yet. The shop name is Dori's btw.
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post Nov 4 2018, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Nov 3 2018, 09:48 PM)
Not yet fix bro?
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Haven't send back to proton... Outstation now...
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post Nov 4 2018, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 3 2018, 10:28 PM)
I see thanks, I read a workshop in Melaka do provide the IAFM services, but they haven't reply my message yet. The shop name is Dori's btw.
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Do check on do they repair the valve or they remove it. Some workshop eliminate the noise by removing the valve, so you going to have no IAFM for your low RPM fuel savings. Zordaq's way of fixing is add a washer-like tube to stabilize IAFM shaft so it won't rattle.
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post Nov 4 2018, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Nov 4 2018, 08:29 AM)
Haven't send back to proton... Outstation now...
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My gut feeling is intermittently failed fuel pump. Just blind guessing. Have your technician check beyond electrical and intake controlling system?
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Nov 4 2018, 01:32 PM)
Do check on do they repair the valve or they remove it. Some workshop eliminate the noise by removing the valve, so you going to have no IAFM for your low RPM fuel savings. Zordaq's way of fixing is add a washer-like tube to stabilize IAFM shaft so it won't rattle.
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the mechanic just replied to my msg just now, he confirmed that they will do mod/upgrade on the shaft component itself, removing the butterfly is not a good thing to do as it will effect the performance and fuel efficiency depending on the condition of the car. The price quoted is rm180, not very sure if the price labour charges included. But anyway, still cheaper than few workshop offer me around rm300 to up than rm500.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 4 2018, 02:03 PM)
the mechanic just replied to my msg just now, he confirmed that they will do mod/upgrade on the shaft component itself, removing the butterfly is not a good thing to do as it will effect the performance and fuel efficiency depending on the condition of the car. The price quoted is rm180, not very sure if the price labour charges included. But anyway, still cheaper than few workshop offer me around rm300 to up than rm500.
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their price increased it seems. few years back my friend's saga blm repaired by them, around RM80 that time.
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post Nov 5 2018, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 4 2018, 02:03 PM)
the mechanic just replied to my msg just now, he confirmed that they will do mod/upgrade on the shaft component itself, removing the butterfly is not a good thing to do as it will effect the performance and fuel efficiency depending on the condition of the car. The price quoted is rm180, not very sure if the price labour charges included. But anyway, still cheaper than few workshop offer me around rm300 to up than rm500.
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Ah I see.. thanks for the education!
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post Nov 5 2018, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Asus @ Oct 29 2018, 01:04 AM)
saw its leaking from the host..my damage was quite severe..i hv to changed the power steering motor as well..last month change compressor, this month power steering pump..after this need to replace the belt tensioner..haish too much edi..
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Bro, may i know how long you've had your belt tensioner?

Mine screeching early morning even thought it's just about 15,000 km long only. Zordaq used the CFE tensioner on mine citing the thicker shaft of CFE tensioner makes it more lasak.

Don't know is isolated case or not but i got a bit regret going for CFE tensioner.
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post Nov 5 2018, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 6 2018, 03:45 PM)
The Coolant part, I still follow SC standard, using Proton and change every 20k. shouldn't be issue.
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just want to share. i only changed the coolant together with timing belt. other than that, nope. and it's working fine. now clocking 190km, so, twice change timing belt, and also twice changing coolant. yes, me too using stock proton coolant..the only thing that i changed on my car is the extractor and the HU. others are stock. even the stock front abs is still performing fine until now. the a/c i never serviced. it's still just as cold. 2011 persona h line.

parts that finally damaged since ownership:
1. drive shaft (left)
2. crankshaft sensor
3. Rear abs

and, that's it.

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post Nov 5 2018, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(fatani @ Nov 5 2018, 11:35 AM)
just want to share. i only changed the coolant together with timing belt. other than that, nope. and it's working fine. now clocking 190km, so, twice change timing belt, and also twice changing coolant. yes, me too using stock proton coolant..the only thing that i changed on my car is the extractor and the HU. others are stock. even the stock front abs is still performing fine until now. the a/c i never serviced. it's still just as cold. 2011 persona h line.

parts that finally damaged since ownership:
1. drive shaft (left)
2. crankshaft sensor
3. Rear abs

and, that's it.
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mind to share how to know when drive shaft damaged?
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post Nov 5 2018, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(dinnor @ Sep 3 2018, 10:46 AM)
hi guys
last week i went to SC for engine oil change

than the mechanics said some oil leakage detected and came from engine top cover as per photos below and recommend to change the seal cam cover and oil filter cap for a new one.

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and they told me that brake pads almost left 10% for front and 30% for rear brake

for your info my persona sv from year 2014 edition

what do you think?

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common tear and wear parts on persona. replaced it twice on mine, but it's just easy to DIY. just need to take off the ignition coil and open a few bolts. release a couple of hose, and unplugged the co2 sensor. take off the old seal, clean the remaining old glue on the rocker cover with a scraper, install new seal and glue it a bit, and reverse the process. total cost would be less than rm50. latest im using the silicon seal. still remains to be seen whether it is better or worst than the common rubber seal.
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Nov 5 2018, 10:43 AM)
mind to share how to know when drive shaft damaged?
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mine damaged on the inner side. the one connected on the gearbox. on physical inspection, you'll notice there's freeplay on the driveshaft. but obviously, you'll only notice that if you uninstall it from your car.
while driving, you'll notice your car shake when you push your car torquey2 a bit. ha ha. or, like mine, on 100kmh, my left side of my car will vibrate like hell. even the front passenger seat is vibrating. sweat.gif

normally, if you hears that tak tak tak sound during cornering, usually it's the cv joint.
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post Nov 5 2018, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(fatani @ Nov 5 2018, 11:55 AM)
mine damaged on the inner side. the one connected on the gearbox. on physical inspection, you'll notice there's freeplay on the driveshaft. but obviously, you'll only notice that if you uninstall it from your car.
while driving, you'll notice your car shake when you push your car torquey2 a bit. ha ha. or, like mine, on 100kmh, my left side of my car will vibrate like hell. even the front passenger seat is vibrating. sweat.gif

normally, if you hears that tak tak tak sound during cornering, usually it's the cv joint.
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oh okay, thanks for the clear description rclxms.gif
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post Nov 5 2018, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Nov 5 2018, 10:51 AM)
Bro, may i know how long you've had your belt tensioner?

Mine screeching early morning even thought it's just about 15,000 km long only. Zordaq used the CFE tensioner on mine citing the thicker shaft of CFE tensioner makes it more lasak.

Don't know is isolated case or not but i got a bit regret going for CFE tensioner.
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i cant remember but it could be around 35k - 40k km..i think i changed it every time i change my timing belt..
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QUOTE(fatani @ Nov 5 2018, 11:35 AM)
just want to share. i only changed the coolant together with timing belt. other than that, nope. and it's working fine. now clocking 190km, so, twice change timing belt, and also twice changing coolant. yes, me too using stock proton coolant..the only thing that i changed on my car is the extractor and the HU. others are stock. even the stock front abs is still performing fine until now. the a/c i never serviced. it's still just as cold. 2011 persona h line.

parts that finally damaged since ownership:
1. drive shaft (left)
2. crankshaft sensor
3. Rear abs

and, that's it.
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How much it cosst for each of them?
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post Nov 6 2018, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(fatani @ Nov 5 2018, 11:35 AM)
just want to share. i only changed the coolant together with timing belt. other than that, nope. and it's working fine. now clocking 190km, so, twice change timing belt, and also twice changing coolant. yes, me too using stock proton coolant..the only thing that i changed on my car is the extractor and the HU. others are stock. even the stock front abs is still performing fine until now. the a/c i never serviced. it's still just as cold. 2011 persona h line.

parts that finally damaged since ownership:
1. drive shaft (left)
2. crankshaft sensor
3. Rear abs

and, that's it.
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Thanks for sharing.

How about Power Steering oil? Have you change it?
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post Nov 6 2018, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Asus @ Nov 5 2018, 07:40 PM)
i cant remember but it could be around 35k - 40k km..i think i changed it every time i change my timing belt..
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My previous tensioner also start giving noise around that mileage. But still can last until 80k km and change with timing belt.

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