Since when this became a Catholic thread?

Any further discussion with yeeck should be in his home thread of https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4298650

yeeck please discuss your Catholic stuff in the right thread and other if you wanna talk more about Catholic faith go to Catholic thread instead. Christian fellowship thread is not the place for you to talk about Catholic topics

Urgent, please advise on this thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4743883

Praise God and thank you.

This post has been edited by sr2016: Feb 25 2019, 08:24 PM

Why is it urgent for you?

I do not have much time to minister/witness to this person I care about on the truth of Jesus Christ Yeshua. I also need to be very prepared to face the spiritual warfare dealing with him on a day-to-day basis.

I believe a strong, malevolent fallen angel is behind this deception he is involved in.

A talented, intelligent, caring person is in danger of salvation and is being held back by the enemy in fulfilling his purpose for the Lord (Triune Father, Son and Spirit).

Sister, are you able to help?

If you would like to discuss in person more you can PM me.

Praise God and thank you.

"Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;"
Matthew 9:37


This post has been edited by sr2016: Feb 25 2019, 09:12 PM

Spot on, Bro.

It's written in Scriptures that the sheep 🐑 recognizes only the voice of the Good Shepherd. & this sheep will never ever listen to any other strange voices.

It's not something I can really 'help' because I don't know this person. Prayer before approach is important.

Be respectful. Don't go charging in and tell that person is in a cult. Make sure your friend is open for discussion. Otherwise they'll feel attacked.

You'll need to do your research. Be sure on who Jesus is and which scripture proves it. Be secure in your doctrine. Then you'd want to ask your friend what does she understand about God. What was she taught, and how does she sees Him. You must know this to avoid miscommunication.

Only when you really understand how she thinks of God, then you can minister.

There's a neat chart by the way, just in case it's one of the main cults.

https://carm.org/cult-comparison-chart

It may not even be JW or Mormon. It could be one of those weird Korean cults, or something else.

This post has been edited by Sophiera: Feb 26 2019, 02:31 AM

What's all your take on female taking preaching role and assuming the pastoral office in violation of 1 Tim 2, 3; Titus 1, 1 Cor 11, 14?

Hi alex.

Your question will hurt many liberal christian ladies who heard God tell them to go into ministry and be a pastor.

I am speaking from experience.

'God told me....'

Yes, speaking from experience, it hurt to confront. I also diam diam better.

Hehe i know you don't mean that.

There are just too many people throwing this around. I hear people say this all the time, God told me this and that.

On the topic of female pastor ordination

The most burning question is


Where are the man where there are call to missionary?

Have you seems woman missionary go into uncharted land preached to native under great risk alone? So where are the man? Why they don't step out to accompany?

Enjoy

Actually, apostle Paul commended many women in joined work for God's kingdom in the Bible. Therefore it should not be that women are not allowed to teach or lead because if that is true, then the commended women of bible days would have not preached in public where there were Men and Women alike.

On the surface reading may seem to be pointing to women in general but if you read in context, it's very likely referring to husband and wife in the matter of authority.

Did you know; Phoebe, a leader from the church at Cenchreae, ......Paul attaches to her three titles: diakonos meaning a deacon, sister, and prostatis meaning "a woman in a supportive role, patron, benefactor"? A Deacon is someone in authority and also one who teaches.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 27 2019, 10:33 AM

So, woman can be pastor?

For me I have no issue with it.

All the Women must be silent scripture verse..as I've said refers to Authority between Husband and Wife in context.

if you think about it, what in the world is the phrase child bearing has to do with anything and why mention it in the same chapter?

There is also a debate on the person of "Junia" in the Bible. Scholars could not readily agree whether the person is male or female but modern New Testament scholars agreed is a "she".

Who is Junia? She's an apostle of Christ. What is an apostle and what are the office role? The term "apostle" connotes the highest level of leadership and authority in the early church.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 27 2019, 12:05 PM

Ic... How do u reconcile your justification with Paul's citing creation order as the reason of prohibition of woman teaching and having authority over men?

https://youtu.be/okPyaEbi0iA


Man and woman have different functionalities.
It applies,in the outside world as well. When woman becomes CEO, disaster always happens.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Feb 27 2019, 01:02 PM

Talking about creation order, citing Adam and Eve, aren't they also considered husband and wife so to speak?

if 1 tim 2:12-15 is strictly confined to family setting, why is then the immediate preceding verses 'referring to men' refers to corporate worship? How did you arrive to the conclusion that the text requires the reader to depart from a context to another?

I think family settings starts from verse 11. Verse 8 & 9 would refer to Man and Women in general. It's a bit tricky with the Greek and Hebrew for that matter because the phrase Man can also refer to both Man and Woman.

For example....in the early verse "All those who are in authority", would include women too, yet Bible records the phrase man in verse 1 of the same chapter.