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TSSophiera
post Jul 12 2018, 05:47 PM, updated 5y ago

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Welcome Fellow Christians.

We are here to fellowship, to reach out, to encourage, to strengthen one another and to be a Witness unto this lost world of the goodness and grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Few simple RULES to follow in our fellowship thread.

1. No flaming/troll post please. Let's keep this fellowship thread clean, positive and encouraging, as the purpose is more for believers of Christ.
2. Do not argue about other religions please. People of other Faith are welcome to ask and enquire genuine questions or out of curiosity about Christianity.
3. What's discussed in here, stays in here.
4. Do not spark an argument or to cause excessive argument, both are not allowed, your post will be deleted and report to Admin of Forum


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Good links to share:
http://www.opensong.org/
http://www.guitar4christ.com
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/
a database of chords and lyrics for christian songs.

GodTV
http://www.god.tv/

Good TV
http://www.goodtv.tv/
Online Bibles!
English Bible (with multi lingual): http://www.biblegateway.com/

Indonesian/Malay Bible: http://alkitab.otak.info/

Arabic Bible: http://www.arabicbible.com/bible/doc_bible.htm

Dear Christians, please do let us know about u, like denominations, which church u r from and where is ur church located. Oh, beside that, do let us know what position are u holding in ur church, as in.. hmm pianist ? choral singer ? or even Pastor.
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post Jul 12 2018, 08:35 PM

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I got first spot.

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post Jul 13 2018, 01:52 AM

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post Jul 13 2018, 06:22 AM

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post Jul 13 2018, 11:09 AM

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I've been hearing Worship group who calls themselves - Here be Lions.

They are awesome!





all their song..really move me.
thomasthai
post Jul 13 2018, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. WongSF @ Jul 11 2018, 05:00 AM)
Firstly you say that Calvinist believe in monergism. But you agree with Christian synergism.

You are clearly contradicting yourself.

What is there to fear anymore, when my soul is no longer in danger of Hell fire since I can’t be unsaved? I'm already elected & predestined & i believe that Jesus died for my sins on the cross.

Not Buddha, not Mohamed, etc. So your point on works salvation is moot. 

The fear of the Lord is no longer there. God is only Love, Love & Love from now on.

Also, what is the difference whether I lust after the porn stars or really committing adultery in the flesh since I can’t be unsaved? Since you said the below yourself :
This is what you've been led to believe. You're just regurgitating what you've been taught.

Are you trying to tell me that fighting over a parking spot is equivalent in magnitude to committing adultery? At which point will i be "cut off & burned?"
Im not contradicting myself because my idea of synergism is different from yours.

Your synergism is on justification, mine in on sanctification.

Your idea of the doctrine of election is a get out of jail card which can you can use over and over again.

The true doctrine of election is God sovereignly puts His law in the believers' heart and draws him into the kingdom, as opposed to the arminians idea that God drags the sinner kicking and screaming into where he does not want to be.

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No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 6:44 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/jhn.6.44.NASB




(To be continued..)

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post Jul 13 2018, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 12 2018, 05:47 PM)
4. Do not spark an argument or to cause excessive argument, both are not allowed, your post will be deleted and report to Admin of Forum[/b]

I just noticed this, what constitute an argument that is not allowed?
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post Jul 14 2018, 08:57 AM

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Imputation

Romans 6:10-11 (NIV) - The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.


In Romans 6 verse 10, it says Jesus died to sin once and for all. And we have been taught to die daily to our sins. And we equate the meaning of the verse as such. Now Question.

Did Jesus died to sin in the matter of character and conduct? He had no sin to die with regards to character and conduct, isn't it? If we say we need to die to our sin in character and conduct with this verse, we are contradicting it's meaning.

Because the following verse says..."In the same way". Now hold on a minute..Jesus had no sin and He was perfect. He didn't had to die to sin in character and conduct. So what is this "In the same way" means?

I submit to you, the revelation here talks about imputation to the judgement and condemnation of sin.

How is this going to help? Very much, when you hold on to righteousness by Faith and you know you are to put off the imputation of sin or sin consciousness on daily basis, you will be set free to live for God.

Always remember it is the goodness of God that leads you to repentance. Repent in your mind. Think of all that is good about God and his love for you.

God Bless


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post Jul 15 2018, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(thomasthai @ Jul 13 2018, 01:41 PM)
I just noticed this, what constitute an argument that is not allowed?
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Our page has been in the moderators spotlight since last year, due to too much arguments and that's not well with kopitiam motto,, you can have serious discussion but not argument, don't argue your belief on other that's what ts is saying
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jul 15 2018, 01:14 AM)
Our page has been in the moderators spotlight since last year, due to too much arguments and that's not well with kopitiam motto,, you can have serious discussion but not argument, don't argue your belief on other that's what ts is saying
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@Mr Wong,

This will be my last post on this matter, please consider these verses:

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just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,
Ephesians 1:4‭-‬5 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/eph.1.4-5.NASB


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For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
Philippians 1:6 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/php.1.6.NASB


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For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
Romans 8:29‭-‬30 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/rom.8.29-30.NASB


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Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge of the truth which is according to godliness, in the hope of eternal life, which God, who cannot lie, promised long ages ago,
Titus 1:1‭-‬2 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/tit.1.1-2.NASB


These are all pertaining to the salvation of the elects.

If you tell me that election is not true, you are denying the normal, explicit meaning of these verses and the perspicuity of scripture.

If the scripture doesnt say what it means, and doesnt mean what it says, it is unintelligible and meaningless.

I'll move on from here and let others have other discussions.

God bless.



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post Jul 16 2018, 08:48 AM

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post Jul 16 2018, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jul 16 2018, 08:48 AM)
How happy are those who believe without seeing me! ~ Jesus Christ
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You're the only Catholic who don't mind to connect with us. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 16 2018, 11:48 AM)
You're the only Catholic who don't mind to connect with us.  biggrin.gif
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That because most of the time I don't really understand what's being written or argued/discussed about at great length especially when it does not concern the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I do have friends and family members who have left the Catholic faith to join other Christian denominations for whatever reason. If they are still linked to me via the cornerstone, I don't see why I can't connect with you guys at the most basic level i.e. Jesus Christ, especially if one is guided by the Holy Spirit.

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We are all linked to the cornerstone smile.gif unless I misunderstood it lol
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post Jul 16 2018, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jul 16 2018, 01:03 PM)
We are all linked to the cornerstone smile.gif unless I misunderstood it lol
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Yes you are right Pehkay, rightfully it should so or be that way, however scripture also says or rather more specifically Jesus says, "Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and yet don't do what I tell you ?"

You've have understood what I've written perfectly, the real question is do we really understand fully what's written in the Gospel ?

When I asked my fellow brethren within my faith questions about the teachings of our Lord Jesus, I was shocked with the answers that I was hearing.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jul 16 2018, 03:48 PM)
Yes you are right Pehkay, rightfully it should so or be that way, however scripture also says or rather more specifically Jesus says, "Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and yet don't do what I tell you ?"

You've have understood what I've written perfectly, the real question is do we really understand fully what's written in the Gospel ?

When I asked my fellow brethren within my faith questions about the teachings of our Lord Jesus, I was shocked with the answers that I was hearing.
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Oh like what answers?
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jul 16 2018, 04:24 PM)
Oh like what answers?
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Answers like not accepting the teachings of Jesus Christ.

You can even do like what I did, go around your community and ask, "Can you tell me which teachings of Jesus that you cannot accept and why ?" You will be surprised of course, unless they are all born of the Spirit. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jul 16 2018, 04:29 PM)
Answers like not accepting the teachings of Jesus Christ.

You can even do like what I did, go around your community and ask, "Can you tell me which teachings of Jesus that you cannot accept and why ?" You will be surprised of course, unless they are all born of the Spirit. wink.gif
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"Israel My Elect"

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, I promise you this will be my last piece on Sovereign Election rclxs0.gif

I just have this heavy burden in my heart to help others understand the scripture more, and consequently love the word of God.

If you understand Sovereign Election, you will understand the story of Israel. Get Israel right, you will get election right. The whole bible from Genesis to Revelations will make so much more sense if you understand this.

The old testament calls YHWH the God of Israel more than 200 times. We know that God calls Israel His elect (chosen one)

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"For the sake of Jacob My servant, And Israel My chosen one,  I have also called you by your name; I have given you a title of honor Though you have not known Me.
Isaiah 45:4 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/isa.45.4.NASB


Have you ever wondered why did God choose Israel?

To understand this, we have to understand the Abrahamic Covenant.

Lets go to Genesis 12 and see the Abrahamic Covenant.

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Now the Lord said to Abram, "Go forth from your country, And from your relatives And from your father's house, To the land which I will show you; And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."
Genesis 12:1‭-‬3 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/gen.12.1-3.NASB


Then in chapter 15, God does something really intriguing to ratify the covenant.

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He said, "O Lord God , how may I know that I will possess it?" So He said to him, "Bring Me a three year old heifer, and a three year old female goat, and a three year old ram, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon." Then he brought all these to Him and cut them in two, and laid each half opposite the other; but he did not cut the birds. The birds of prey came down upon the carcasses, and Abram drove them away.  Now when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and behold, terror and great darkness fell upon him. God said to Abram, "Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, where they will be enslaved and oppressed four hundred years. But I will also judge the nation whom they will serve, and afterward they will come out with many possessions. As for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you will be buried at a good old age. Then in the fourth generation they will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorite is not yet complete."  It came about when the sun had set, that it was very dark, and behold, there appeared a smoking oven and a flaming torch which passed between these pieces.
Genesis 15:8‭-‬17 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/gen.15.8-17.NASB


In the old days, kings who are in a covenant cut up animals and walk through them to ratify the covenant. Its a reminder that whoever breaks the covenant, he will end up like the animals.

Here we see God knocked Abraham out, and He Himself passed through the animal pieces.

What does this mean? The covenant does not depend on Abraham to fulfil, but God Himself will fulfil the covenant The covenant doesnt depend on the performance of Abraham.

(to be continued)

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