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bumpo
post Jul 11 2018, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Jul 11 2018, 01:08 PM)
Quote me in which sentences I said I am supporting unethical business practices? Or any post that I post indicating that?

And what did ts have to lose? Since you're saying

the one taking advantage here is the seller not the buyer.

I don't see any, did they don't agree to refund ts? And for the trouble ts go through, can't he get any voucher from lazada as compensation like other experienced?

And you cant even argue with logic and fact , the best you can do is personal attack.

Also you can't prove that ts isn't taking advantage of other mistakes and you are very openly supporting this.

Ts can at any point claim compensation voucher from lazada for his trouble instead he die die want to get the item at the cost he know he can't get anywhere else.

You know what? Since you're lazy to scroll back, let me do this for you on my reply to the owner when he replied.
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there is a cup that can hold 1liter of water and it is half full.
you say "cup have 500ml more capacity" and then argue "i didnt say cup is half full"

you didnt even know difference between purchase and order fulfillment and even tried to imply that until money is in merchant pocket it is not considered sold and lazada is only enquiring on buyer's behalf. sorry but your facts are based on such ill conceived understanding. it will just keep ajaran sesat you only

not gonna argue with you further than this
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FatalExe
post Jul 11 2018, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Jul 11 2018, 01:08 PM)
Quote me in which sentences I said I am supporting unethical business practices? Or any post that I post indicating that?

And what did ts have to lose? Since you're saying

the one taking advantage here is the seller not the buyer.

I don't see any, did they don't agree to refund ts? And for the trouble ts go through, can't he get any voucher from lazada as compensation like other experienced?

And you cant even argue with logic and fact , the best you can do is personal attack.

Also you can't prove that ts isn't taking advantage of other mistakes and you are very openly supporting this.

Ts can at any point claim compensation voucher from lazada for his trouble instead he die die want to get the item at the cost he know he can't get anywhere else.

You know what? Since you're lazy to scroll back, let me do this for you on my reply to the owner when he replied.
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Not honouring price after payment accepted is a violation of contract law.

End of story

Really can't brain why people think it's ok to hand over thousands of $ using credit card and then need to bend over backwards to suit all the sellers excuses and get accused as taking advantage.

If u can't stand making price mistakes or even replying simple enquiries and PMs for explanation then stop doing business or close down your shop

Also your "T&C means it's not against the law" is just plain stupidity, no offense
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post Jul 11 2018, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jul 11 2018, 07:07 AM)
You bodo just shut up la. What amazon?

when you accepted the money , means contract signed la bodo. Ada hati want to say willing willing

Confirm a beta irl and got conned everyday.
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this fella talk about amazon but is unaware that amazon usually honors price glitches, else they will substitute with gift card
chrischiang
post Jul 11 2018, 02:41 PM

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LOL.. according to all those who said "Merchant have to honor their mistakes"

I submit the order, proceed to fill in personal info, proceed to payment page, "make payment", order confirm...

mean Switch MY should honor the deal below?

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just get ur refund and move on... is not like they dont refund u rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
TSyepikaiye
post Jul 11 2018, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Afro100 @ Jul 11 2018, 02:48 PM)
Yes absolutely 300% , merchants have to honor their mistakes, no way around it.
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its okay.. just let it go as person above u said.

next time, he want buy 1 item from 1 shop. then got cancelled then the price is jack up..
refund. wait for money come back. then he go to 10 different shop. all do the same. 10 times refund(can be accumulate into how many days?)
i wonder he feel still want to buy that item or not.

dun blame seller la(u self condone their way) just move on right. dun like dun buy la from those 10 seller, right chrischiang

enough arguments. already pass to kpndkk. case settled. no need fight anymore.

This post has been edited by yepikaiye: Jul 11 2018, 03:10 PM
bumpo
post Jul 11 2018, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Jul 11 2018, 02:41 PM)
LOL.. according to all those who said "Merchant have to honor their mistakes"

I submit the order, proceed to fill in personal info, proceed to payment page, "make payment", order confirm...

mean Switch MY should honor the deal below? 

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just get ur refund and move on... is not like they dont refund u  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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did you hack the system or manipulated the pricing data? no? why do you feel then that it shouldn't be honored? hmm.gif
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post Jul 11 2018, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Jul 11 2018, 02:41 PM)
LOL.. according to all those who said "Merchant have to honor their mistakes"

I submit the order, proceed to fill in personal info, proceed to payment page, "make payment", order confirm...

mean Switch MY should honor the deal below? 

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just get ur refund and move on... is not like they dont refund u  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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TS even asked for clarification on the price and the seller has answered him, so the seller should be aware of the marketed price. bodo ke apa?
wanted111who
post Jul 11 2018, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jul 11 2018, 02:09 PM)
there is a cup that can hold 1liter of water and it is half full.
you say "cup have 500ml more capacity" and then argue "i didnt say cup is half full"

you didnt even know difference between purchase and order fulfillment and even tried to imply that until money is in merchant pocket it is not considered sold and lazada is only enquiring on buyer's behalf. sorry but your facts are based on such ill conceived understanding. it will just keep ajaran sesat you only

not gonna argue with you further than this
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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Jul 11 2018, 02:22 PM)
Not honouring price after payment accepted is a violation of contract law.

End of story

Really can't brain why people think it's ok to hand over thousands of $ using credit card and then need to bend over backwards to suit all the sellers excuses and get accused as taking advantage.

If u can't stand making price mistakes or even replying simple enquiries and PMs for explanation then stop doing business or close down your shop

Also your "T&C means it's not against the law" is just plain stupidity, no offense
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Bunch of lazy ass, took me less than 1 minute to find this link and articles.
Go read yourself it is there for everyone to see

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...zhZonTqRzi2dmrW

What is the Lazada cancellation policy?

Before cancelling an order, please read and understand the following terms & conditions:
Lazada cannot reverse a cancellation once it is completed. After cancellation, we cannot restore your order.
Any vouchers, discounts, or promotions used in conjunction with a cancelled order WILL NOT be valid or re-validated for any subsequent order.
We can’t guarantee that the price, availability, shipping fee, or any other element of a cancelled order will remain the same for any subsequent order.
Your refund will be processed within 48 hours and will be credited to your account within 5 to 15 business days, depending on your payment method, bank and/or financial institution.
The refund amount will be the net amount paid (or store credit used) by you and will not include any voucher amount.
In some cases, a cancellation can’t be processed online. Please contact our customer service if your cancellation is declined.
The remaining order’s value after your cancellation has to fulfil the same conditions for discounts, promotions, or minimum purchase value that applied to the order. If not, the entire order may be cancelled.
To ensure an enjoyable and safe shopping environment for all, Lazada has limited the quantity you may purchase on deals which are in high demand. We may also cancel an order if fraud is suspected.

What? You think only consumer can cancel the order and the seller cannot?

And don't go and agree with the t&c which you think is not working in your favor and not to your liking.

Bunch of scum who encourage and supporting the idea of taking advantage of other mistakes.

FatalExe
post Jul 11 2018, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Jul 11 2018, 05:07 PM)
Bunch of lazy ass, took me less than 1 minute to find this link and articles.
Go read yourself it is there for everyone to see

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...zhZonTqRzi2dmrW

What is the Lazada cancellation policy?

Before cancelling an order, please read and understand the following terms & conditions:
Lazada cannot reverse a cancellation once it is completed. After cancellation, we cannot restore your order.
Any vouchers, discounts, or promotions used in conjunction with a cancelled order WILL NOT be valid or re-validated for any subsequent order.
We can’t guarantee that the price, availability, shipping fee, or any other element of a cancelled order will remain the same for any subsequent order.
Your refund will be processed within 48 hours and will be credited to your account within 5 to 15 business days, depending on your payment method, bank and/or financial institution.
The refund amount will be the net amount paid (or store credit used) by you and will not include any voucher amount.
In some cases, a cancellation can’t be processed online. Please contact our customer service if your cancellation is declined.
The remaining order’s value after your cancellation has to fulfil the same conditions for discounts, promotions, or minimum purchase value that applied to the order. If not, the entire order may be cancelled.
To ensure an enjoyable and safe shopping environment for all, Lazada has limited the quantity you may purchase on deals which are in high demand. We may also cancel an order if fraud is suspected.

What? You think only consumer can cancel the order and the seller cannot?

And don't go and agree with the t&c which you think is not working in your favor and not to your liking.

Bunch of scum who encourage and supporting the idea of taking advantage of other mistakes.
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No amount of T&C can cover if it is illegal la

Law already say cannot you still wanna argue T&C

The court doesn't give a shit about T&C if sellers conduct in an illegal manner

This post has been edited by FatalExe: Jul 11 2018, 05:37 PM
TSyepikaiye
post Jul 11 2018, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Jul 11 2018, 05:36 PM)
No amount of T&C can cover if it is illegal la

Law already say cannot you still wanna argue T&C

The court doesn't give a shit about T&C if sellers conduct in an illegal manner
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nvm.. dun argue with him anymore. i already made my complaint.
let him express his opinion
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post Jul 11 2018, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Jul 11 2018, 05:36 PM)
No amount of T&C can cover if it is illegal la

Law already say cannot you still wanna argue T&C

The court doesn't give a shit about T&C if sellers conduct in an illegal manner
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This

T&C Says Donation to Najob no sarahan.

Ada guna?
chrischiang
post Jul 11 2018, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jul 11 2018, 03:26 PM)
did you hack the system or manipulated the pricing data? no? why do you feel then that it shouldn't be honored?  hmm.gif
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you are saying that you support on taking advantage on ppl's mistake?
everyone would know this deal is not going be true (way beyond market price, literally free) because some mistake from the shop.. and you bringing out customer act and feel they should honor the deal?

Your this action is morally unethical. seeking advantage from ppl's lost..
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QUOTE(yepikaiye @ Jul 11 2018, 02:30 AM)
i already filed claim. i dun want argue aimlessly more with pro-shop peoples that blamed me at fault.

now already submit. let gov agency decide my complaint.
already done my move. cheers

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All the best sir.

Arrogant sellers like this must given some smacking once in a while.
FatalExe
post Jul 11 2018, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Jul 11 2018, 06:10 PM)
you are saying that you support on taking advantage on ppl's mistake?
everyone would know this deal is not going be true (way beyond market price, literally free) because some mistake from the shop.. and you bringing out customer act and feel they should honor the deal?

Your this action is morally unethical. seeking advantage from ppl's lost..
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They should because the pricing was there for quite some time and the buyer has paid for it as well.

Your argument works for in-shop retail purchases, even so it's arguable in court if buyer already paid and seller accepted it and cancel it later
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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Jul 11 2018, 06:10 PM)
you are saying that you support on taking advantage on ppl's mistake?
everyone would know this deal is not going be true (way beyond market price, literally free) because some mistake from the shop.. and you bringing out customer act and feel they should honor the deal?

Your this action is morally unethical. seeking advantage from ppl's lost..
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RM1k. literally free. ok.
chrischiang
post Jul 11 2018, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(maxxxxx0123 @ Jul 11 2018, 07:21 PM)
RM1k. literally free. ok.
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if you dont even care to scroll up a lil bit to check what im referring to.. why u ever care to respond?
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post Jul 11 2018, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Jul 11 2018, 06:10 PM)
you are saying that you support on taking advantage on ppl's mistake?
everyone would know this deal is not going be true (way beyond market price, literally free) because some mistake from the shop.. and you bringing out customer act and feel they should honor the deal?

Your this action is morally unethical. seeking advantage from ppl's lost..
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how do you ascertain that it was a mistake to begin with? for your post specifically there is nothing mentioned that it is a mistake.
for all we know it is some special deal for vip members or something

next time provide proper info la. macam ts, gave full a to z of the situation and not like yourself, give partial info then go off on a tangent "you are saying that... blablabla" shakehead.gif



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i buying iphone 8 plus from lazada on sale 12.12.17

rm3.5k.. ok jer...

but now.. not more.. not trust lazada anymore..to many scammer.

even though boleh refund.. masa aku ko boleh refund ke hanat..

sekian. masa itu emas.
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jul 11 2018, 07:58 PM)
how do you ascertain that it was a mistake to begin with? for your post specifically there is nothing mentioned that it is a mistake.
for all we know it is some special deal for vip members or something

next time provide proper info la. macam ts, gave full a to z of the situation and not like yourself, give partial info then go off on a tangent "you are saying that... blablabla"  shakehead.gif
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lol dont try to twist man.. which shop will give out apple watch for free.. tell me.. i surely join VVVVIP member.. or you are living in a non realistic world?
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post Jul 11 2018, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Jul 11 2018, 09:25 PM)
lol dont try to twist man.. which shop will give out apple watch for free.. tell me.. i surely join VVVVIP member.. or you are living in a non realistic world?
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and yet here you still not giving full info. was it a solo purchase? was it part of a combo deal? was it redemption of points? was it free gift?
so far all you have shared is you bought it and asked if it should be honored without any other details and when a response is given with just that scope of info you are now going off tangent

why dont you start by telling your full story first and why you conclude that it should not be honored? if you dont want to, then stfu yea yawn.gif


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