If you are comparing end of the year sales price with the employee's discount , obviously that isn't going to work very well .
The 40 % discount are given to their employee and and peers in the industry , they can be used on newly launched products . Since they don't do internal adjustment so the RRP is still the same at the end of the year.

12k is from relatives who distribute electronics , they don't make much from that.


That's what Samsung called " Customer valuation " . Most stocks for the QD OLEDs had ran out , the newly arrived version (both S90C and S95C ) are all using 2nd gen panel so getting a new S90C from Samsung is just like buying a S95C without OCB. I don't think I will want to wait 3 months for that , even a new tv would have depreciated from that value after 3 months .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jan 18 2024, 12:17 AM

I dont think it's year end sale since purchased it in June/July IIRC. If you have EPP account then you just keep a watch on their flash sale. The QN95B and S95B was 50% off that time around.

Yes I am not a fan of the external box either but I like the stand of the S95C better. But then S90C is more affordable though

A95L is too expensive already at the moment even for a 65” 😂

Samsung is really killing it by quantifying brightness…these QD OLEDs new “perceived brightness measurement” will be definitely be a gold standard moving forward for picture quality

Was the mad max movie graded in full rec 2020 ? If yes I am sure the A95L and S90 95C will be able to display it with full glorious mode…

Maybe the orange sprouting fire is already sitting outside DCI P3 dy into rec 2020… if only these TVs come with those gamut checker mark function for movie scenes like Bravia Hx310 that would be superb.. lol

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Jan 18 2024, 02:36 AM

I haven't check the display time as I don't have remote, but from the box and package it seems new.
Just confirmed that from SVC menu, it's brand new S95C with 19 hours display time. Bought at RM7.7k.
But it's ridiculous long waiting time, if not because I got it at that price, I might want to refund and get S90C somewhere else.

This post has been edited by loonsave: Jan 18 2024, 10:57 AM

this is for those with S95B, S90C and S95C

you may want to set your HDR color space to BT2020 and reduce the saturation setting a bit. the Color Space Auto setting seems to be misunderstood (it doesnt automatically switch color space) and its just using DCI-P3 all the time which doesn't make use of the full potential of QD-OLED



for Neo QLEDs it doesn't make much of a difference iinm, it might actually be more inaccurate

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jan 18 2024, 05:08 PM

Mad Max Fury was graded with rec 2020 colorspace and 10000 nits , it was ahead of its times .

Because of that reason alone , all current commercial TVs have to do tonemapping while playing the movie.

Any direct comparison between TVs isn't going to be as clear cut. The difference could've been the result of different tone mapping approach.


It seems like a lot of ppl have been making the same conclusion based on youtube - " TV A looks brighter / more colorful than B on XX's channel videos ".
Despite the reviewers have repeatedly told the viewers not to use the video as a reference to comparing screens.

You would need a display that is capable of displaying what the movie was capable first.
More saturated colors may not necessarily be visible in front of camera's limited dynamic range as well , it is no human eyes.


I can only speak from what I've seen , the flame just look more orange , more vigorous on the QD-OLEDs.
On the latest G3 , that highlight are very bright too but the flame just doesn't stand out as much and look a little washed out in comparison .

Supposedly these LG flagship wrgb OLEDs will also be getting some kind of color boosting this year , so we will see how that goes.

This post has been edited by Convael: Feb 7 2024, 10:08 PM

Yeah if it is 10000 nits, it will do tone mapping. If you have some spare time, you can watch one of Vincent's 2023 TV shootout. As usual it's attended by many people from the video and cinematography industry. The HX310 he uses all the time which is capable of hitting "full field 1000 nits only" was calibrated to D65 white point as usual , all the TV brands were covered/framed up to cover the brand names.

Under the tonemapping of 1000 nits (MI Fallout) and 4000 nits (Lord of the Rings) HDR presentation, ranking from high to low:
1000 nits - A95L, G3, S95C, MZ2000
4000 nits - A95L, S95C, G3, MZ2000
Combined score - A95L, S95C, G3- MZ2000 draw

For color accuracy check, there are low luminance, Rec709, WCG, High Luminance, out of the box, too long to type out results, so to sum up:
A95L, S95C, G3, MZ2000

One thing to note here if you watch the video, both A95L and S95C exhibit higher color saturation at high luminance as close as the ref monitor over the G3 and MZ2000.

So at least we know "at the moment", A95L and S95C QD OLEDs have a clear advantage in this segment over normal wRGB OLEDs (with ref to a 1000 nits capable monitor). What you seen and said is totally in line to the conclusion from the shootout, but like you said maybe its different tonemapping but I think wider rec2020 plays a big role also (G3 only about 75%-ish and S90 S95C ~90%) and at 1300 nits more or less, there is already distinction already between QD and normal wRGB. Don't know how 2nd gen MLA will help with the color boosting, but LG got a lot to catch up in the high luminance high color brightness segment. All this is assuming he doesn't get paid to say good thing about QD OLEDs hahaha...

I think most people will always revert back to youtube or rtings comparison for this or that be it inside or outside the forum...but at least most people in this forum is open for discussion, unlike certain individual who is blatantly ignorant few pages back when facts and numbers are being presented lol.

Wondering should I take 55" S95B at 4.5k (brand new) or S90C at 5.9k to replace my 55" sony tv?

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Jan 31 2024, 05:31 PM

depends if the improvements to the 2nd gen panel is worth it? and not all S90C is using 2nd gen panel.... only the latest batches are so have to check from the service menu

other than that it seems there's some minor improvements to the software and processing in the S90C

i'll just go for the S90C imo, afterall the S95B is still a first gen product

Yeah but at 5.9k le haha. Around 1.4k more for more or less the same TV. S95B is flagship though. I think the 55 S90C also first gen panel. Only the larger sizes are second gen if not mistaken. I ask the merchant they also cant confirm if the 55 S90C they are selling are 1st or 2nd gen.

Or I wait for S90D to come out then S90C drop in prices, then I will be forever in the waiting game lol.

And QD OLED at 4.5k really a bit hard to pass.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Jan 31 2024, 05:47 PM

considering its already 2024, S90D shouldnt be too far away

no harms waiting for a bit i guess

but better keep an eye on stock levels for S95B / S90C

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jan 31 2024, 06:04 PM

Took the plunge for my first QD-OLED 55" S95B for RM4.3k after Lazbonus from Desa Home. S90C RM5899 (no LazBonus available) and RM1.6k extra for just a 55 like a bit too much imo when the 65" S90C is 7.4-7.5k now. My 65 LG CX still working flawlessly.

It's significant enough upgrade for my Sony X90H already.

Too bad TV can only deliver after CNY.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Feb 2 2024, 02:00 PM

Wahhh. S95B still available, nicee,,, Great price for a 1+ year model.
Why need to wait for so long?

Yeah now got some units left on Lazada. Already checked with them, they said its brand new sealed. I think the price for a 55 is a steal even though its coming into 1+ years.

I asked them to hold on to delivery cause I will be out of town starting next week till early CNY.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Feb 2 2024, 02:44 PM

I think you are better off with a S90C.

All of the newly restocked S90C units are 2nd gen , I've checked with Samsung MY personally .

( the new stocks of s95c reached MY 2 weeks ago , and s90c just last week. )


But even the 1st gen S90C still pack some improvement here and there.
The difference is not day and night but they are noticeable. The HDR tone mapping has been improved , looking brighter on the 2023 models. The HLG format ( which is widely used by Youtube HDR ) has also been fixed .
Shadow details and dimming algorithm have also been improved.

The most important feature for me is , you can now turn off Dynamic tone mapping on the S90C / S95C , that makes a big difference . Never a fan of the TV dynamic tone mapping features.

This post has been edited by Convael: Feb 3 2024, 12:49 AM

I see. It's good to know that Samsung MY has restock the 2nd gen S90C. Desa Home told me that they are out of stock for the 55" S90C at the moment though (only 65" available), I guess the stocks have yet to reach them. The 55" S90C RM5899 i saw on shopee should be first gen then and that shop is not located within KV area. That's why I double hesitated.

Yeah you are right, S90C should have been the best pick TV for now both gaming and video. OOTB accuracy is superb, software more stable and 2nd gen panel. Its what S95B should have been.

And I am well aware that S95B was in a hot mess software side since launch. Flip flop peak brightness (apparently from 1500 nits nerfed to 1000 nits), EOTF for HDR undertracks and dimmer for game mode, bent panel and the list goes on. Also how Samsung tricked the 2% and 10% into perfect EOTF tracking and non standard 8% everything goes haywire.

Yeah DTM is always on for S95B, and from what I read, I need to enable game mode HDR and DTM will be disabled. Video mode I think cannot disable?

Well, I already made the purchase already.... why poison me haha. It will be used in the bedroom so my wife can enjoy her kdrama and youtube in the highest quality and better HDR lmao. Since they have yet to make any delivery, I will double check with them for the S90C status. Maybe the week after next S90C arrives to Desa Home.

I just try connect samsung TV using samsung smartthing
On app got this info
TV Panel Display Time 279
What mean 279? Hour?



This post has been edited by PJng: Feb 5 2024, 10:03 PM

I think should be hours.

All of suddenly my Samsung NU8000 macam just die on Sunday - 4th February before i realised (the smarthing and google home there actually shows offline already since a week ago) whereas my last using was on 27th January 2024.

There is no red standby light and it won't turn on either i press the remote power button and physical button underneath the TV right side.

Try changing the power cords of the TV and differ wall outlet but to no veil.
TV bought during 2018 and out of warranty already.
Any chances to save it before i call technician / dispose?

Man, have enough of Samsung's product already =.=
Basically most of my Samsung products having issue after few years.