Assuming You bought it in the same year it was released , so the TV is about 6 years old now .

I am not saying all TV should and will die after 6 years , but if electronic has malfunction after 6 years that's not wholly unreasonable given that it is a mid-range TV.
We are no longer in that era where all electronic should and will last a decade at least .

If you look in the thread of Sony , LG , Panasonic you will find similar complaints as well .

Try to contact their service centers for repair but salvaging spare parts for 6 years old model ain't going to be easy , might be even more pricey than picking up a new one.
Plus edge-lit dimming TV is really old , basically most of the " dimmable " TV out there are at least FALD NOW .

This post has been edited by Convael: Feb 7 2024, 10:11 PM

It's actually my spare TV right now.

If repairing high then really boh bian have to DYI or dispose/trade in

Received my S95B, setup was seamless with the smart things app. Ran an info check and it is brand new with 0 hours panel.

Tizen OS is not as bad as I would think coming from LG. QD-OLED is really bright and its making my CX showing it's age a little.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Feb 15 2024, 09:59 PM

It's the S95B really bright, even after they nerfed to 1000 nits.?
What mode do you use? FMM, Standard, or Dynamic?

Maybe it's on an older firmware? What firmware are you on?

It's bright enough for my viewing condition and colors are definitely brighter than LG CX. The set came with FW 14XX so its already nerfed anyways. So I decided to go for FW 1602. I can do the Anapeak/MaxLux mod via SM to bring back to higher brightness but I don't want to risk it for now since it is under warranty.

I mostly use Movie Mode / FMM with custom BT2020 colorspace with peak brightness set to High. I notice movies on native netflix app with 4K HDR looks a lot dimmer overall. I have yet to play with the settings though. Or perhaps I am too used to LG CX Dolby Vision.

I then subscribe to Apple TV+ to test HDR10+. Tested 47 Ronin on 4K HDR10+ and specular highlights pop so much more (lights, reflective on the armors), colors are so much more saturated (need to get used to red being redder lol), improved shadow details a lot more over the Samsung native Netflix 4K HDR movies. Without HDR10+ it makes a lot of diff.





FMM is on stock preset with custom BT2020 colorspace. My photo taking skill is bad and the phone does not do justice. Vertical grey bar on first pic left side is due to my curtains not completely closed. But yeah overall I am very satisfied with it.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Feb 17 2024, 11:03 PM

Hello all,

Need a little advice from all of you.

I intend to buy a 65" TV for my living room. I have somewhat shortlisted to 4 models

1. SONY X95L
2. SONY A95L
3. SAMSUNG S95C
4. SAMSUNG QN800C

Malaysia seems not having the QN900 series?

Amongst my shortlisted only #4 is 8K and the rest is 4K. Understand that currently not many sources with 8K but given that I am expecting to use this TV for the next 5 years - should I go for 8K or remain with 4K.

Any suggestion or should I even consider cheaper alternatives like the TCL 755?

Let me know your thoughts

X95L don't have 65". A95L or S95C (if you don't mind having no Dolby Vision and the external one connect box)

You have the budget for A95L already, then A95L is better imo.

Nice review. Good tv, even for a first gen QD.
Yes, the color are vibrant especially the Red,
Don't know why nexflix app in hdr are not as bright as it should be, that the reason I've changed the SM.
Now on FMM with peak brightness off.

As you have mention "Currently Not many content in 8K". That is your answer.
For my 1st choice A95L, if 💰 not a problem. Voted "Best tv for 2023" by Hdtvtest.
2nd - S95C, still an excellent choice.
3rd - S95B, (if it's still available) can save 💰 for a better sound system 😃

8k is useless for TV size less than 90”

unless you are sitting 1.5 meter away from your TV, you cant tell the difference between 4k and 8k

A bunch of QN900C are available, 8K TV isn't really mainstream and there are barely anyone who want to own one .




A large percentage of 8k content on the market are made available for VR device , which is a different beast altogether.
In reality , there are scarcely anything made for 8k screens. Most stuff you watch on a 8K TV will be upscaled from 4k. It will not have the same clarity and sharpness of native 8k content.

If we are being honest , 8K TV is not necessary and completely irrelevant unless you are going beyond 77" .
Thanks to the banning of 8K TVs from EU (which is one of the biggest TV audience on earth ) , that has caused a lot of brands to retreat from the 8K market and the development of both content and devices have also been stagnated.



Probably add S90C 77 " to that list as well .
77" S90C (can be bought for RM12K-13K) is the best deal and probably the best overall TV out of the list. It is confirmed to come packing with 2nd generation of QD OLED , which means its picture quality on par with S95C .
On top of that , S90C has 4X full fledge HDMI 2.1 ports unlike the S95C but without the stupid One-Connect Box which has been nothing but disaster .

The lack of Dolby Vision on Samsung TV can be concerning. However given that the only other QD OLED TV , which is the Sony's A95L also had its Dolby Vision mode botched , so you aren't exactly missing anything , at least not among the QD OLEDS.

If you really want to see a brighter and more dynamic HDR , turning on Dynamic tone mapping is but another choice. In my experience , the dynamic tone mapping feature from the last couple of years have improved significantly.

X95L is only available in MY for 85 " and is likely the best LCD from 2023. But it isn't an QD OLED TV , therefore it is always going to be inferior in picture quality. Previously these MINI-LED TV would automatically become the " go-to " TV for bright living spaces . But that rule no longer apply here , the new gen of Quantum Dots OLED are extremely bright and colorful TV , you shouldn't have problem in a lit room.


There''s little reason to even consider QN800C (or any 8K TV) , unless you have an ultra beefy workstation that is capable of 8K output which is pretty much the only reason you will consider buying one.


A95L is technically the best out of the bunch . However it is not perfect either. It has superior picture processing , but still does somethings worse than S90C/S95c. Keep in mind that the Dolby Vision on A95L is also botched , you are better off watching HDR content in normal HDR10 mode. A95L only has 2 x HDMI 2.1 ports , so that is something you want to keep in mind if you plan to connect more than one gaming console to it.


The only reason anyone would go TCL is because of budgets. We know TCL is still basically inferior in mostly everything compare to the "Big 4" . But out of the bunch of chinese brands , TCL is still probably the best and has seen improvement to their LCD every year. TCL is also the last company who remained dedicated to making large LCD screens since the shutting down of Samsung LCD FABs.

This post has been edited by Convael: Feb 20 2024, 09:36 PM

There is a new FW update for S95B. In case you do console gaming, it seems like ST2084 slider is working again for Game Mode. But better wait for the folks to do brightness and tracking measurements before you update.

New updated Tizen OS menu also.

Link

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Feb 20 2024, 10:38 AM

if you're on Apple TV+ can try watching For All Mankind (lots of space scenes, good for OLED) and Masters of The Air (new series) also

btw I was always wondering, is it worth to get a Chromecast or Apple TV 4K instead of relying on the internal streaming apps?

because reading all the comments online, general consensus seems to agree that those streaming devices have better quality than the internal apps. But from what I see so far not really sure if that's the case

Those 2 series are graded in DV though. But I will try them tonight.

Did you notice that when you play DV contents, and you scroll through the menu button to choose picture mode: dynamic, standard, movie, FMM, the HDR10+ logo will pop up? I wonder if it is doing some sort of forced metadata conversion? Plus i notice that whenever I play DV contents via apple tv app on the TV, the color tone and temperature seems to match my LG, at least by my eyes (cause I prefer the slightly yellowish white), and highlights seem more dynamic. Though I am not sure if I am really viewing dynamic HDR. But it does seem improved over static HDR content.

I am researching into those streaming app devices now also lol. Not sure if its worth to get it just for that slight bit of improved picture quality.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Feb 21 2024, 04:41 PM

it seems majority content that was graded for DV in Apple TV+ is graded for HDR10+ as well hence why the HDR10+ logo pops out. So far all the content I viewed on Apple TV+, they're all in HDR10+ (judging by the Picture Mode logo) eventhough the title info only mentions DV. So far haven't encounter any titles that shows only standard HDR10. I'm inclined to believe the icon because I never saw HDR10+ using the internal Netflix app, only HDR10, so I believe Apple TV+ is really using HDR10+. There's a bit of controversy or discussion about this if you search online, many are wondering whether Apple TV is doin any metadata conversion.

Weirdly the HDR10 / HDR10+ logo doesn't appear on the FMM mode icon, one of the reason why I only use the Movie mode now

the reason I'm considering a Chromecast now is to play around with Streamio + Torrentio & Real Debrid. Shield TV Pro is the best for this actually but unfortunately it doesn't supports HDR10+

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Feb 21 2024, 05:03 PM

Stremio is on Tizen now, how is it?
BTW, I am also using Stremio+Torrentio+ RD in GCwGTV

actually I can't find the Streamio app on my QN85C app store... not sure if its region specific

how's the experience on GCwGTV? compared to internal streaming apps

I think movie mode is quite similar to FMM. For FMM without the HDR10+ logo, I think it just due to FMM logo issue. I think it's still running the same metadata as other 3 modes.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Feb 21 2024, 05:11 PM

yeah I know haha, its just a graphical glitch. but one that kinda drives me mad a bit

If you run 4K HDR on Netflix, it appears to be the same. HDR, HDR, HDR, FMM.. lol

Netflix confirmed only have HDR10. And the FMM icon also seems bugged, it will not display any HDR10 or HDR10+ logo. Well not sure if its bugged or its designed that way. But anyway if like me who is bothered by it, just use Movie mode since its accurate as well

btw you can try the calibration function as well.... not sure if it made my picture more accurate but I kinda prefer the colours after vs before. for QD-OLED its probably not essential but give it a try

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Feb 21 2024, 05:20 PM