I see. He did mention that with the LD set to high will result in a lower CR at approx 36643:1 though for filmmaker mode.

But then there are multiple methods to test CR and this number can be a dynamic number depending on the part of the screen I think. So sometimes one number can't really tell the whole story.

Sometimes it makes you wonder which is the better TV... LOL

QN95C will be the better TV no questions about it, at least on paper

Considering they are giving the free 1.1k for 85C (i assume that's in store credits?), the 85C still end up being the cheaper option

Probably

But one thing I've learnt and agree with Convael, if you dont watch your TV in a dark room environment, its actually hard to spot most of the flaws, especially for a fairly good LCD like the Neo QLED series. Put any OLED next to LCD in a dark environment and you can see why many vouched for OLEDs

So yeah not all of us watch in a dark environment.... so if you feel the TV looks good then that's all that matter

No... The Cashback works for next purchase, not current. Besides you can only use RM10 for every RM100 purchased.

There are no perfect tech. OLED or QLED, they have their own sets of limitations. Why OLED are the preferred panel for smartphone? True black? No... Because they get brighter than LED. The same can be said for TV but in reversal. MiniLED pushed higher brightness than OLED ever capable of doing. Even if OLED can push for decent brightness nowadays, they can't do it without the limitations.

There's nothing perfect in this world. It's all about trade off, what you get vs what you lose. As long as you're happy with your TV, that's all that matters.

no brainer to go for QN95C in that case assuming its new set

yes but need to consider also LCDs have pretty much reached its peak now with miniLEDs, TV manufacturers can throw in more LEDs and improve the algorithm as much as they want (like Sony) but the core design will still remain

OLEDs on the other hand are still being developed with pretty much all RnD focused on them now, so it will only get better with time

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jan 12 2024, 06:14 PM

IMO it's the other way around. OLED pixel density is kinda hard to increase. Just look at 8k OLED. They can only do it at bigger sizes. LED... Mini led is just starting to ramp up, meanwhile they are still trying to make microled viable economically. The potential to reach microled is kinda easier than say to reduce the sizes of each oled pixel.

RnD for OLED is going after longevity and brightness, as well as cost reduction. LED based module wouldnt have to deal with these, except cost.

This post has been edited by andrekua2: Jan 12 2024, 06:28 PM

MicroLED is similar to OLED actually. there's nothing to do with LCDs

How can it be similar??? Organic vs stable light.

I'm just saying the principle they are working is similar (individual RGB diodes)



Its nothing to do with LCD incase people mistook that microLED is an evolution of miniLED back-light system. Its a totally different display tech

If i misunderstood your previous statement then ignore me

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jan 12 2024, 11:28 PM

Actually this polish reviewer gives a bit of contradicting information, if you refer to rtings QN85C IPS with LD set to high they get 87391:1. And this polish QN85C VA panel gives a significantly lower CR. I believe rtings should be more credible 😂

Maybe because the 55 inch of the Polish reviewer only have 504 dimming zones while the 65 inch from Rtings have 720

Not sure how that affects CR though. By right VA should have better native CR than IPS/ADS

Why not? Didn't we get QD oled which only uses blue and passed out through a filter as well? The possibilities is there. I think rgb micro led night possess a challenge of getting a uniform brightness.

You still dont understand what im trying to say.....

Look now I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, you could be right or I could be right but who knows since we are not experts in the field

I am just focusing on the bolded part because to me (and again I apologise if I misunderstood) you seem to imply microLED is the next evolution of miniLED. All I'm trying to say is they are totally different tech. MiniLED is just another back-light tech, call it the next evolution in FALD LCD, while microLED is totally new and the way it works have more in common with OLED than LCD

Also its still gonna be some time before microLED hits mainstream (again because its a totally new tech), there's still no proper microLED TV we can buy off the shelf as of now, not even being announced at recent CES. Maybe we will get a surprise next year who knows but damm sure the price would be unaffordable by most, refer back when the first OLEDs came out

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jan 13 2024, 12:11 AM

If you understand how QD OLED works, then you should know what I'm referring to. Yes, currently the design is to get rid of the filter and gone direct RGB but imo this will bring the same limitation as OLED. These RGB will have different brightness. Using QD OLED design, you can basically turn to a single color brightest led, pass them through a filter and get a more uniform brightness.

Boss i duno why suddenly you bring in the comparison of QD OLED also... I've made myself clear at previous reply on what I'm trying to say

You read back my reply and I never even once mention about the technical limitations of microLEDs or OLEDs or the benefit of QD OLED and yes I understand how it all works. So not sure why suddenly you went all technical with me

My reply of saying 'microLED is similar to OLED' is just a way of trying to say it is totally different from miniLED ok

If you feel confused by it then sorry

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jan 13 2024, 12:29 AM

strictly speaking, QD-OLED doesn't have color filter, a filter removes something and let other pass.

micro led and oled are pixel level self emitting lights, the challenge of micro led TV is how to move large amount of micro led to a precise locations. this is mass transfer challenges.

Should I call it color converter or QD layer? My bad on this... the QD layer just feels weird to write out since other TV also got QD layer.

All I'm saying is that this rgb subpixel control that they wanted to achieved with microled is what makes it so expensive. Besides as we knew with colors, it's not consistent across different colors and with different manufacturing yields as well. Can we take a hint from QD OLED and went with a single color microled coupled with a color filter or color converter first? That would definitely be easier to manufacture than the RGB one they are so obsessed with.

Thanks. That's all I'm trying convey while someone is obsessed with going deep into the debate of screen tech

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jan 13 2024, 01:40 AM