Left is fake from Lazada seller name Owl Station. Right is my leftover original engine oil.
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May 17 2018, 12:20 AM, updated 5y ago
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thanks for the heads up
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May 17 2018, 06:15 AM
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This seller has given me some problems. 2X they failed to deliver and refuned takes ages. No worth the hassle dealing with them . Unreliable
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May 17 2018, 08:34 AM
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thanks bro..
ALMOST bought penzoil fully syn from them !!!!!!!! |
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May 17 2018, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(Effy92 @ May 17 2018, 12:20 AM) Don't buy from this seller. They sell fake engine oil. good job. save thousands of life. haha. last time considering to buy Total from this shop too. but found it to be too fishy.Left is fake from Lazada seller name Owl Station. Right is my leftover original engine oil. |
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May 17 2018, 09:59 AM
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I think this kind of people should be charged in court, they could of caused serious engine damage, maybe even cause an accident kupronikel83 and foxx3001 liked this post
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May 17 2018, 10:04 AM
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I had similar experience. I bought Castrol Magnetec 10W-40 Semi from another seller in Lazada. One fine day while doing housekeeping, I noticed the bottle cracked and oil was leaking from the bottom. Then, I quickly transferred it to another empty bottle. I noticed the oil is less thicker (like diluted) than original one. Now, I dare not buy from Lazada no matter how cheap it is. I can't imagine how much the repair cost if engine is damaged by fake oil. I wrote a letter to BP Malaysia asking them to authenticate the item. I shared with them the Lazada URL. Below is their reply. QUOTE Dear XXXX, Thank you for contacting BP Castrol Lubricants ( Malaysia ) Sdn Bhd. We do not, currently, sell our products online. Castrol products, purchased from Lazada.com are therefore not sourced from BP Castrol Lubricants (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd. For peace of mind, we encourage consumers to purchase products from our authorized Castrol Auto Service outlets. The nearest Castrol Auto Service outlets can be located by visiting our website: www.castrol.com.my . Rest assured that we take continuous actions to protect the integrity of our product brands. For our further investigation , would it be possible that you provide us the balance of the lubricants you purchased in its original packaging and copy of the receipt. Please call us at 1800-88-0018 for our further action. kupronikel83 and Stirmling liked this post
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May 17 2018, 11:05 AM
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Most of the EO selling in Lazada mostly import themselves. Like Tesco, Giant and Aeon.
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QUOTE(iamoracle @ May 17 2018, 11:01 AM) I had similar experience. I bought Castrol Magnetec 10W-40 Semi from another seller in Lazada. Its just a template reply.. Its very normal if they do not have Official Online Channel Sales then they will reply like that.One fine day while doing housekeeping, I noticed the bottle cracked and oil was leaking from the bottom. Then, I quickly transferred it to another empty bottle. I noticed the oil is less thicker (like diluted) than original one. Now, I dare not buy from Lazada no matter how cheap it is. I can't imagine how much the repair cost if engine is damaged by fake oil. I wrote a letter to BP Malaysia asking them to authenticate the item. I shared with them the Lazada URL. Below is their reply. |
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Always see this shop appearing
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QUOTE(iamoracle @ May 17 2018, 11:01 AM) I had similar experience. I bought Castrol Magnetec 10W-40 Semi from another seller in Lazada. It would be nice if you could furnish Castrol the balance of oil for UOA or whatever scicitific test and publish its findings over here.One fine day while doing housekeeping, I noticed the bottle cracked and oil was leaking from the bottom. Then, I quickly transferred it to another empty bottle. I noticed the oil is less thicker (like diluted) than original one. Now, I dare not buy from Lazada no matter how cheap it is. I can't imagine how much the repair cost if engine is damaged by fake oil. I wrote a letter to BP Malaysia asking them to authenticate the item. I shared with them the Lazada URL. Below is their reply. So is the same as TS here, instead of speculation where something scientific can be had. This post has been edited by zeng: May 17 2018, 12:04 PM |
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Pls do us a favor, give bad rating to the Lazada seller. Tq
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QUOTE(zeng @ May 17 2018, 12:00 PM) It would be nice if you could furnish Castrol the balance of oil for UOA or whatever scicitific test and publish its findings over here. Would they entertain? Because its well known there are many fake engine oils all over the place.So is the same as TS here, instead of speculation where something scientific can be had. Unlike baby milk, this is probably not a big issue to them since it does not involve danger to human beings. Its much easier just to warn consumers to buy from reputable shops. Samirfajar liked this post
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May 17 2018, 12:30 PM
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Bought once. Tested it. Same as what u said. Lazada never trusted. N the weird thing is, I can't post a review saying it's fake oil. Lazada blocks my review wtf Samirfajar liked this post
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Crap..bought one bottle 2-3 months ago..
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Tesco no longer has promo for EO and it had been awhile now. It must be some people complain to the local distributors or principals and then request Tesco to stop selling.
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QUOTE(killerpigglet @ May 17 2018, 12:30 PM) Bought once. Tested it. Same as what u said. Lazada never trusted. N the weird thing is, I can't post a review saying it's fake oil. Lazada blocks my review wtf To do a negative review, please try below:a) Select 3 star b) Review normally, but at the ends, put negative review. Reguards |
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Similar experience for me with this seller too.
Bought a castrol magnatec, when received already feel the poor labels on the bottle and also the hologram seems contaminated and looks fake. After keeping for about a week, finally decided to return and ask for full refund. Luckily didn't keep and try it. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Thank god I didn't buy from then. But then again other sellers might be fake too
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Hi guys sorry for the late reply due to my busy schedule.
Actually im planning to bring my car service this weekend but im a bit sceptical with that engine oil. Before this i bought from other seller at lazada also named Plus Auto Parts, this seller sells the original not cheap as Owl station but still cheaper than bought from perodua. The first thing i notice is the mfg date written 2016. Hmm ok maybe that is why the oil are cheap to clear the old stock. Then i open the cap, the bottle are sealed properly and no leaking. After open the seal it smell like used engine oil. Shit I guess they put recycled eo. Another thing is when i shake the bottle I notice the oil viscosity not like w-20 oil, the oil ook thicker from my eye. The front and back sticker proper intact, no peel off. And yeah im doing minor service outside since my car no more warranty. |
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May 18 2018, 07:09 AM
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Is more safer buy good EO direct from petrol station like shell, petronas, caltex etc. The price of course a bit more expensive, but confirm 100% genuine products and peace of mind.
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Anyone deal with another Lazada seller ECAS?
They seems sell a lot of EO with very reasonable price and most of the rating are quite positive too. |
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TS, maybe you should consider Shell engine oil + oil change service now - http://www.11street.my/promotion-page/shell-official-store
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QUOTE(Harold2009 @ May 18 2018, 07:09 AM) Is more safer buy good EO direct from petrol station like shell, petronas, caltex etc. The price of course a bit more expensive, but confirm 100% genuine products and peace of mind. I agree with this. More expensive is okay. As long as my engine is in good condition. A damaged engine costs more than what you saved from buying cheaper EO. |
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Why don't one just purchased from the workshop that you trust ? Vast diff in pricing from those online store?
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ May 18 2018, 03:20 PM) Why don't one just purchased from the workshop that you trust ? Vast diff in pricing from those online store? There are genuine dealers at much cheaper pricing Example shell helix fully syn , can get at Tesco discount price 130 and genuine compared to 229, outside |
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QUOTE(kw @ May 18 2018, 10:58 AM) Anyone deal with another Lazada seller ECAS? I never try, no more buying eo on9 for meThey seems sell a lot of EO with very reasonable price and most of the rating are quite positive too. QUOTE(nenubebe @ May 18 2018, 11:06 AM) TS, maybe you should consider Shell engine oil + oil change service now - http://www.11street.my/promotion-page/shell-official-store No xW-20 oil thereQUOTE(Harold2009 @ May 18 2018, 07:09 AM) Is more safer buy good EO direct from petrol station like shell, petronas, caltex etc. The price of course a bit more expensive, but confirm 100% genuine products and peace of mind. QUOTE(Miracles @ May 18 2018, 11:13 AM) I agree with this. More expensive is okay. As long as my engine is in good condition. A damaged engine costs more than what you saved from buying cheaper EO. The things is petrol station no xw-20 oil, thinnest is 30.QUOTE(rcracer @ May 18 2018, 03:38 PM) There are genuine dealers at much cheaper pricing I bought once that oil at tesco for my other car but the bottle no seal.Example shell helix fully syn , can get at Tesco discount price 130 and genuine compared to 229, outside |
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QUOTE(Effy92 @ May 18 2018, 04:28 PM) I never try, no more buying eo on9 for me I always buy through online when Tesco still selling very good pricing engine oil last time.No xW-20 oil there The things is petrol station no xw-20 oil, thinnest is 30. I bought once that oil at tesco for my other car but the bottle no seal. Now Tesco is bringing less oil now, so no more purchasing from them. Well, you may still try those online seller with big retail shop around. Seller like Vanli is quite a prolific seller, which having a big retail shop at KL area. Think this kind of seller will not risk selling fake oil that may condemn their reputation. |
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that's why always buy in petrol station or go SC buy.
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I also bought a Shell oil from Owl Station leh and it's damn dark like yours. How now?
What is his actual company name or real seller name. I want report him to KPNDKK |
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ May 18 2018, 06:21 PM) Yes. Oil filter buy at perodua. QUOTE(e-lite @ May 18 2018, 10:12 PM) I also bought a Shell oil from Owl Station leh and it's damn dark like yours. How now? Block E G 10 Petaling Utama 7, Jln Klang Lama, 46000 Selangor. 012 251 0757.What is his actual company name or real seller name. I want report him to KPNDKK I only seller address. I need to study how to report kpdnkk, never happen to mw before. |
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QUOTE(Effy92 @ May 18 2018, 04:29 PM) Service outside workshop since my axia no more warranty. Usually i will do at my hometown Segamat rm10 only. Kl cheapest i can find rm22. Holy cow ! Labor charge is only Rm 22? Just perform oil changing or the mechanic would check the usual stuff as well as in the franchise sc? Sorry I sent mine to those who are specialized only thus I have no exp on the normal s workshop . It's good that one can save some doughs by getting your own oil and stuffs! I used to buy chemlube engine oil for my previous car but it's getting too costly Liao! Lol!This post has been edited by 19 Degree South: May 19 2018, 08:39 AM |
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the price of EO this seller sell is too good to be true..
somemore put 100% authentic.. https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/owl-station/ |
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The worst part about this fake EO business is that there are nobody to catch them. The oil companies does not careless even though their brand name will be tainted. These companies are run by salaried management who wouldn't want to spend time catching these imitations as they don't want to be saddled with more jobs. As long as they achieve their targets, their overseas boss are happy.
The previous government are too busy songlaping , Hoping that the new government will do something to catch these unscrupulous idiots. Anyway, who is the new minister of trade? |
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QUOTE(kw @ May 18 2018, 05:49 PM) I always buy through online when Tesco still selling very good pricing engine oil last time. I used to buy from Tesco too but now they only sell Castrol, Dyno Lube, and Tesco brand. Now Tesco is bringing less oil now, so no more purchasing from them. Well, you may still try those online seller with big retail shop around. Seller like Vanli is quite a prolific seller, which having a big retail shop at KL area. Think this kind of seller will not risk selling fake oil that may condemn their reputation. Yes, I have bought from Vanli thru Lazada before and they are ok. QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 18 2018, 09:31 PM) If you buy from Tesco/Giant/AEON or reputable sellers like Vanli then still ok and can save a lot from promotions. I personally never buy from petrol station and SC coz their prices are a scam too!QUOTE(19 Degree South @ May 19 2018, 08:38 AM) Holy cow ! Labor charge is only Rm 22? Just perform oil changing or the mechanic would check the usual stuff as well as in the franchise sc? Sorry I sent mine to those who are specialized only thus I have no exp on the normal s workshop . It's good that one can save some doughs by getting your own oil and stuffs! I used to buy chemlube engine oil for my previous car but it's getting too costly Liao! Lol! I only spend rm15-20 for labor of each oil change for my cars. |
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 23 2018, 04:26 PM) I used to buy from Tesco too but now they only sell Castrol, Dyno Lube, and Tesco brand. agree... feel like Giant got more oils than Tesco now Yes, I have bought from Vanli thru Lazada before and they are ok. If you buy from Tesco/Giant/AEON or reputable sellers like Vanli then still ok and can save a lot from promotions. I personally never buy from petrol station and SC coz their prices are a scam too! I only spend rm15-20 for labor of each oil change for my cars. |
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QUOTE(swine @ May 23 2018, 11:29 AM) the price of EO this seller sell is too good to be true.. When Giant do sell Shell Ultra for RM99.90 on promotion which I believe isn't a fake oil , I doubt OWL's Shell Ultra at RM103 would not be genuine ..... unless an VOA is done to demonstrate otherwise.somemore put 100% authentic.. https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/owl-station/ |
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I never buy engine oil from online. It is too cheap to believe, and dont even buy from any unauthorised shops, it seem more like imitation products from China.
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For Lazada, buy only from reputable seller. Eg Vanli. They're in the spare parts industry for tens of years.
The Tesco EO, I'd been using them for many years. Either bought at their outlet or via their online channel, all ok. |
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so who are the reliable eo sellers on lzd?
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QUOTE(kelvin_87 @ May 24 2018, 12:42 AM) I never buy engine oil from online. It is too cheap to believe, and dont even buy from any unauthorised shops, it seem more like imitation products from China. Fake oil does not comes from China. The locals either blend it or recycle it.Best to get your engine oil in authorised dealers or petrol stations. |
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For engine oil. Just buy from two places Petrol Station & Service Centers. Even spare parts shop I dare not buy due to worry of imitation. Alternatively, for those who want to buy imported oil like Mobil 1 and Pennzoil / royal purple. May consider few of our online members here.
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QUOTE(kw @ May 17 2018, 11:51 PM) Similar experience for me with this seller too. so today i tried to open the EO bought from Owl Station and these are the photos.Bought a castrol magnatec, when received already feel the poor labels on the bottle and also the hologram seems contaminated and looks fake. After keeping for about a week, finally decided to return and ask for full refund. Luckily didn't keep and try it. - The hologram is contaminated - The front and back bottle label seems ok - The oil color is as per picture So wonder if it's fake??? Previously I bought the same Castrol EO from WZ Office Plus Solution and Plus Auto Parts, not sure if they're fake also. Damaged *might* have been done but so far my car is running ok. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by navilink: May 27 2018, 07:00 PM |
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Is car doctor range of oil is ok? Theirs are cheap and claim to be good. Any comment?
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QUOTE(navilink @ May 27 2018, 06:53 PM) so today i tried to open the EO bought from Owl Station and these are the photos. Most probably fake, try compare with another bottle and oil colour. - The hologram is contaminated - The front and back bottle label seems ok - The oil color is as per picture So wonder if it's fake??? Previously I bought the same Castrol EO from WZ Office Plus Solution and Plus Auto Parts, not sure if they're fake also. Damaged *might* have been done but so far my car is running ok. I believe WZ office Plus solution and Plus Auto Parts is the same shop. I bought from them 3 times with the same shipping pakaging. Now I also curious are they sells original or not because they no longer available at lazada. But so far my engine no sign of running bad oil. Or maybe the effect is long term. |
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QUOTE(navilink @ May 27 2018, 06:53 PM) so today i tried to open the EO bought from Owl Station and these are the photos. this one better buy from tesco store, not selling expensive there- The hologram is contaminated - The front and back bottle label seems ok - The oil color is as per picture So wonder if it's fake??? Previously I bought the same Castrol EO from WZ Office Plus Solution and Plus Auto Parts, not sure if they're fake also. Damaged *might* have been done but so far my car is running ok. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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For Castrol, if the label state made in EU. Then the bottle must be of soft plastic.
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lol fake oil everywhere.
better go petrol station like that.... you save few bucks end up piston problem la, gasket leak la, this and that. |
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 23 2018, 04:26 PM) I used to buy from Tesco too but now they only sell Castrol, Dyno Lube, and Tesco brand. Some yes, but I check few station la. Since travel a lot Pahang kl and klang, some branch sell synthium 800 for 115 and some branch sell for 100. Yes, I have bought from Vanli thru Lazada before and they are ok. If you buy from Tesco/Giant/AEON or reputable sellers like Vanli then still ok and can save a lot from promotions. I personally never buy from petrol station and SC coz their prices are a scam too! I only spend rm15-20 for labor of each oil change for my cars. Moreover, my cc got 5% off for petrol station. Ok ok la. Not that expensive and semi syn not that expensive also. Shell now got new line up of EO. But still stick to petronas, shell expensive. |
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 28 2018, 12:49 PM) Some yes, but I check few station la. Since travel a lot Pahang kl and klang, some branch sell synthium 800 for 115 and some branch sell for 100. buy from Giant & Tesco lo...shell fully syn sometimes only RM99 cheap...quality dunno laMoreover, my cc got 5% off for petrol station. Ok ok la. Not that expensive and semi syn not that expensive also. Shell now got new line up of EO. But still stick to petronas, shell expensive. |
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 28 2018, 12:44 PM) lol fake oil everywhere. Guess those cheaters are selling bulk mineral oil at premium price. Should not cause too much of issue as mineral could last for 10k km as well, unless it is used in more demanding car such as turbo cars.better go petrol station like that.... you save few bucks end up piston problem la, gasket leak la, this and that. |
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Does seller in lazada has the option to delete questions? I posted a question at Owl station regarding buyer claim on buying fake oil from them and the question went disappeared in the next few hours.
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QUOTE(therain01 @ May 29 2018, 12:33 AM) Guess those cheaters are selling bulk mineral oil at premium price. Should not cause too much of issue as mineral could last for 10k km as well, unless it is used in more demanding car such as turbo cars. there's diff between mineral oil, fake oil, used oil.... so if mineral oil at premium price still no harm. just harm your wallet. if used oil..... very harm to your engine. |
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 28 2018, 12:49 PM) Some yes, but I check few station la. Since travel a lot Pahang kl and klang, some branch sell synthium 800 for 115 and some branch sell for 100. OK for semi synth then maybe the difference in price not as much (even though during promo at Tesco/Giant, semi synth can get at just around rm80). But if you buy full synth then the price difference is way much more coz petrol stations usually sell those at over rm200 while in Tesco/Giant during promo can be just around 100-150.Moreover, my cc got 5% off for petrol station. Ok ok la. Not that expensive and semi syn not that expensive also. Shell now got new line up of EO. But still stick to petronas, shell expensive. |
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First choice for me to buy at hypermarket like giant or tesco..if no promothen lazada
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QUOTE(therain01 @ May 29 2018, 12:37 AM) Does seller in lazada has the option to delete questions? I posted a question at Owl station regarding buyer claim on buying fake oil from them and the question went disappeared in the next few hours. Lazada seller now selling not only fake oil, dog food olso.When question regarding the item/expiry date, they deleted the question immediately. |
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Which EO brand that we can check genuine via SMS or checking online?
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QUOTE(K1963 @ May 29 2018, 07:29 PM) Lazada seller now selling not only fake oil, dog food olso. That is very bad. How could lazada allow seller to delete a genuine question. It is only in Malaysia seller are over protected I guess.When question regarding the item/expiry date, they deleted the question immediately. |
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i also get cheat by this Owl Station from Lazada! please be careful everybody ! i order Pennzoil 5W40 , but Owl Station sent to me 5W30 , and the bottle label was scratch ,and look like old stock , and when i chat with the Owl Station, he said will refund or rebate RM30 to me, but after two days, he read my msg dont want reply me again!
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QUOTE(K1963 @ May 29 2018, 07:29 PM) Lazada seller now selling not only fake oil, dog food olso. When question regarding the item/expiry date, they deleted the question immediately. QUOTE(lengfan @ Jun 9 2018, 12:31 AM) i also get cheat by this Owl Station from Lazada! please be careful everybody ! i order Pennzoil 5W40 , but Owl Station sent to me 5W30 , and the bottle label was scratch ,and look like old stock , and when i chat with the Owl Station, he said will refund or rebate RM30 to me, but after two days, he read my msg dont want reply me again! Thanks for sharing |
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luckily the seller Owl Station finally rebate RM30 to me , he is polite but responce a bit slow.
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i order petronas syntium but send me mobil super == i chat with them, get reply either full refund or take the cheaper mobil super (refund a bit)
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Imagine this.
Fully Synthetic oil from Hong Kong, Shell Helix Ultra. Cost RM300+++ in Hong Kong, seller brings it in and sells it to you at RM120. Makes sense? Or this. Fully synthetic from US, Castrol Edge Pro. Price in US, around RM260. Brought into Malaysia, sold for RM130. Makes sense? Buy at your own risk |
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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Jun 12 2018, 08:17 AM) Imagine this. FS oil is actually not as expensive as labelled here in M'sia. The margin is very high.Fully Synthetic oil from Hong Kong, Shell Helix Ultra. Cost RM300+++ in Hong Kong, seller brings it in and sells it to you at RM120. Makes sense? In Seoul's E-Mart (largest retailer in Korea), the GS Kixx G1 5W-30 is selling for only RM85, while the ZIC X7 5W-30 RM90. I bought 4 x 1L bottles of G1 at RM12/bottle, clearance sale bcos close to expiry date. |
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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Jun 12 2018, 08:17 AM) Fully synthetic from US, Castrol Edge Pro. This in the US is roughly RM103-RM112 ($26-$28) for 5 quarts at Walmart, if its on sale its even less.Price in US, around RM260. Brought into Malaysia, sold for RM130. Makes sense? Haven't looked how much they charge here, but they have an office in KL with a help line. It does kind of make sense, here you only get 4l in a bottle in the US you get 4.7l This post has been edited by Samboi: Jun 12 2018, 11:34 AM k9182 liked this post
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After shop by shop, online store survey, next time u guys just buy EO at petrol station or tesco/giant only. Not really cheap but peace of mind.
Last few weeks, shell r&r kinrara kesas sell shell ultra rm220. RRP is rm260. Manufactured on nov 17. |
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QUOTE(JStatham @ Jun 12 2018, 11:37 AM) After shop by shop, online store survey, next time u guys just buy EO at petrol station or tesco/giant only. Not really cheap but peace of mind. Last week Giant Bdr Puteri sell RM115, Feb 18 stock.Last few weeks, shell r&r kinrara kesas sell shell ultra rm220. RRP is rm260. Manufactured on nov 17. |
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 12 2018, 03:22 PM) Unfortunately i bought already huhu Maybe next service i can PM u if there got sale or not. Bcos giant near my place not selling shellQUOTE(zeng @ Jun 12 2018, 03:44 PM) Prob is when i cari, no sale or no stock. When service done, all giant tesco got sale lol |
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QUOTE(SKY233 @ Jun 12 2018, 05:24 PM) I very much doubt Giant would get involve with non-genuine imitation Shell products, if it does you can be sure Shell Malaysia would give them hell.Before that happens, you can be assured the group purchaser(s) of Giant would get fired 'quick'. On top of that, I'd faith in importers (from Malaysia) and exporters (from Europe) that is vetted, screened and finally selected by Giant group (mind you, it's foreign owned IIRC) Looking at the picture provided above, I've no doubt whatsoever this Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 is original and genuine. I would be happy to see evidence saying otherwise, but no personal speculation please but facts and evidence. This post has been edited by zeng: Jun 12 2018, 10:17 PM |
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In Lazada I only buy the Tesco brand Engine Oil - Super good & smooth
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Hi
Any review from this Seller from Lazada? https://www.lazada.com.my/products/exora-bo...cKjSVW&search=1 This seller claims that the EO comes with seal, serial number, and SMS verification code for authenticity Thanks |
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I bought original Dynolube full synthetic from Tesco. Using it so far so good. Feels pretty much the same as buying something 3x more expensive.
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Shell from Lazada has authenticity checker
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QUOTE(zeng @ Jul 3 2018, 07:43 PM) I do actually. I want to check with a small bottle to see if this is the right colour or if it's a fake. If fake will call shell and ask them to test accordingly. If they don't comply I will find other methods |
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Wow...
Just notice got this thread. Owl Station sell the Shell Helix HX7 5W-30 4L damn cheap @ RM69 compare to other... Worry it is fake or genuine ? |
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engine oil buy online is bit risky.
seller can manipulate the item. possible also the item was old or rejected stock. that one is still consider original. |
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Just buy from giant or tesco. Usually have the fully synthetic shell helix or total brand. Mostly sales at rm129 on shelve which quite a bargain.
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Interesting read. Bought a fully synthetic Shell 5w40 a month ago. Maybe tomorrow I'll go down and take a few pics of the bottle and oil colour. But it came with a shell freegift though everytime I bought those not sure if that is original but its rm240
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Nobody save some but later big damage to car. Some oil is so teruk until spoil your car, some is normal but at least is usable.
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Bought from this seller @ lazada b4. Castrol semi syn. The price is only slightly cheaper @ RM82 (last check today it is RM87), while Tesco and other shops can sell it for <RM89.
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As a part shop owner and online seller that deals with engine oil of various brands, allow me to shed some light on the industry. EO sold in supermarkets/hypermarkets are usually direct import stock from EU or sourced out from Petronas Malaysia itself. Do take note that their packaging would differ from what we can purchase from petrol stations or reputable part shops. Here is why: Many do not know that most EO sold in our domestic market are actually packed locally under the authorizations of the respective principles such as BP (Castrol), JXTG (Eneos) or Pennzoil (technically owned by Royal Dutch Shell). There are exceptions where authorized distributors import higher end ranges from mainly Singapore (Mobil 1), Hong Kong (Shell) and or Thailand (Castrol). These products' packaging may vary to what is found in hypermarkets but rest assured they are deemed genuine oil as well. For example, we would never see the same EO lineup between the official Pennzoil USA and Pennzoil Malaysia sites. UMW is the authorized manufacturer & distributor for Pennzoil in Malaysia, refining and packaging are done locally, hence explaining the lack of the Ultra Platinum range in our domestic market. It's usually either due to higher cost or incompatible formulation for various regions. As for Castrol, Mobil and Elf, these brands are being sold in our country through regional distributors: Northern (Perlis Kedah Penang Perak), Central (Selangor N9 Malacca) and Southern (Johor Pahang) etc. To me it is a pain in the ass because a Central regional distributor cannot deal with a Perak retailer/wholesaler due to a "No Cross-border" industry policy, vice versa. In short, these are the few companies holding distributorships of major brands monopolizing their "arranged areas". By this point I'm sure many are spitting and questioning "What about the ones being sold on Lazada, Shopee and other platforms?" The truth is, most distributors prohibit vendors to market their products online apart from their own official channels. Liqui Moly is actually prohibited to be sold online. Castrol distributors take a 'one eye open one eye close' approach. Which all leads us to this uncertain gray area where most online vendors operate. Some sellers in the online market are actually the distributors themselves, some are major authorized dealers like Vanli, some are small fry like myself and some are what we call bad apples of the industry. As per the ongoing scandals on fake oil, the operations are usually more rampant in KL and Klang Valley areas due to high demand and competitive pricing, but this has now affected other parts of Malaysia because some vendors purchase 'cheap' supplies from hot areas and reselling them at a huge price slash. Through a few discussions with my own distributors (based in Ipoh, that puts me in the North), we concluded that the lube industry in Malaysia is a vague, competitive wild wild west in expense of the innocent consumers. It is good that KPDNKK are taking complaints, and actions against the bad apples. As a vendor myself, I do acknowledge the accountability that sellers should hold to buyers - to provide genuine quality at a fair price. Though we all know that is not always the case in this flawed system, I urge that consumers to not cheap out on what they put into their vehicles. It is true that most want the best bang for the buck, but very often this demand pushes for the supply of cheap, low quality shady products which exist in our very surrounding. To ensure your peace of mind, the primary solution is to get services done in your vehicles' respective SC. If the unreasonably high cost is a concern, EO sold in Tesco/Aeon/Giant are definitely legit, do take note that EU formulations and additives might not be the best for our tropical climate but rest assured, they are safe to use. If you have a favorite part/online shop where you frequent, don't feel shy to ask them questions on the product you're buying into, it is your right and their job to enlighten you. IF, the price is too good to be true, it is definitely too good to be true. Shop wisely, carefully but not cheaply! Cheers all This post has been edited by drewandcutascar: Sep 22 2018, 05:54 PM pandikar and pcdoctor_my liked this post
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I bought 2 bottles of liqui moly 10w40 and used in 2 cars now , seems no issue. I didnt feel the improvement in terms of engine whatsover. Hoepfully they are genuine oil
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QUOTE(drewandcutascar @ Sep 22 2018, 05:35 PM) As a part shop owner and online seller that deals with engine oil of various brands, allow me to shed some light on the industry. EO sold in supermarkets/hypermarkets are usually direct import stock from EU or sourced out from Petronas Malaysia itself. Do take note that their packaging would differ from what we can purchase from petrol stations or reputable part shops. Here is why: Thank you so much for your great informative reply. We really appreciate your post. Many do not know that most EO sold in our domestic market are actually packed locally under the authorizations of the respective principles such as BP (Castrol), JXTG (Eneos) or Pennzoil (technically owned by Royal Dutch Shell). There are exceptions where authorized distributors import higher end ranges from mainly Singapore (Mobil 1), Hong Kong (Shell) and or Thailand (Castrol). These products' packaging may vary to what is found in hypermarkets but rest assured they are deemed genuine oil as well. For example, we would never see the same EO lineup between the official Pennzoil USA and Pennzoil Malaysia sites. UMW is the authorized manufacturer & distributor for Pennzoil in Malaysia, refining and packaging are done locally, hence explaining the lack of the Ultra Platinum range in our domestic market. It's usually either due to higher cost or incompatible formulation for various regions. As for Castrol, Mobil and Elf, these brands are being sold in our country through regional distributors: Northern (Perlis Kedah Penang Perak), Central (Selangor N9 Malacca) and Southern (Johor Pahang) etc. To me it is a pain in the ass because a Central regional distributor cannot deal with a Perak retailer/wholesaler due to a "No Cross-border" industry policy, vice versa. In short, these are the few companies holding distributorships of major brands monopolizing their "arranged areas". By this point I'm sure many are spitting and questioning "What about the ones being sold on Lazada, Shopee and other platforms?" The truth is, most distributors prohibit vendors to market their products online apart from their own official channels. Liqui Moly is actually prohibited to be sold online. Castrol distributors take a 'one eye open one eye close' approach. Which all leads us to this uncertain gray area where most online vendors operate. Some sellers in the online market are actually the distributors themselves, some are major authorized dealers like Vanli, some are small fry like myself and some are what we call bad apples of the industry. As per the ongoing scandals on fake oil, the operations are usually more rampant in KL and Klang Valley areas due to high demand and competitive pricing, but this has now affected other parts of Malaysia because some vendors purchase 'cheap' supplies from hot areas and reselling them at a huge price slash. Through a few discussions with my own distributors (based in Ipoh, that puts me in the North), we concluded that the lube industry in Malaysia is a vague, competitive wild wild west in expense of the innocent consumers. It is good that KPDNKK are taking complaints, and actions against the bad apples. As a vendor myself, I do acknowledge the accountability that sellers should hold to buyers - to provide genuine quality at a fair price. Though we all know that is not always the case in this flawed system, I urge that consumers to not cheap out on what they put into their vehicles. It is true that most want the best bang for the buck, but very often this demand pushes for the supply of cheap, low quality shady products which exist in our very surrounding. To ensure your peace of mind, the primary solution is to get services done in your vehicles' respective SC. If the unreasonably high cost is a concern, EO sold in Tesco/Aeon/Giant are definitely legit, do take note that EU formulations and additives might not be the best for our tropical climate but rest assured, they are safe to use. If you have a favorite part/online shop where you frequent, don't feel shy to ask them questions on the product you're buying into, it is your right and their job to enlighten you. IF, the price is too good to be true, it is definitely too good to be true. Shop wisely, carefully but not cheaply! Cheers all |
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QUOTE(killerpigglet @ Jul 4 2018, 03:03 AM) I do actually. I want to check with a small bottle to see if this is the right colour or if it's a fake. If fake will call shell and ask them to test accordingly. If they don't comply I will find other methods Someone in the preve group already ask shell malasyia about the cheap engine oil Tesco/giant selling ...they didn't deny or acknowledge the oil is fake....but instead just told urs " to buy from local distributer to enjoy the warranty ...lol".Here is some other responses they get from giant . They even gone to get confirmation with batch/seriel number with e.u shell . And some even gone to extreme length which file report to kpndkk saying they suspect giant selling fake shell helix ultra at price to good to be true. Than....some giant outlets have to explanation on the packaging does not have aluminum security seal. Sooner or later I think giant going to have enough with the crap from the customer and stop selling the eo. UPDATE... seems like shell malaysia is unhappy of the situation and came out with solutions. This post has been edited by TRAZE99: Sep 25 2018, 03:20 PM k9182 liked this post
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QUOTE(Sengil50 @ Sep 26 2018, 09:21 PM) Buy from online will have to take the risk, when get the fake product is really frustrating. When the those engine oil or vehicle use product, i will like to buy at the certain store that i trust, more safe! i bought Shell Helix engine oil from Lazada before and its fake. I bought one from here: https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/owl-station/....319ad5acrcXRr1 Anyway, better don't take risk, better buy it from their official store |
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Online Lazada, Shoppee and other online platforms are the one that I will stay away. Even is genuine at lower price is still a question mark whether is the oil i purchase really original? Normally just get it from reputable automotive shops, petrol station or buy the oil from service center if you intend to service your own. In fact there are few reputable sellers whom import the oil from US which at least is proven due to their track record by selling in lowyat
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QUOTE(incredibless @ Sep 27 2018, 08:58 AM) Online Lazada, Shoppee and other online platforms are the one that I will stay away. Even is genuine at lower price is still a question mark whether is the oil i purchase really original? Normally just get it from reputable automotive shops, petrol station or buy the oil from service center if you intend to service your own. In fact there are few reputable sellers whom import the oil from US which at least is proven due to their track record by selling in lowyat Thats true bro since i also one of the people who buy from online but not going to buy it again bcoz the low in quality and not really sure if it is guaranteed in terms of originality. Currently, im using Helix Ultra 5w30 and it's much better than the one from online engine oil. |
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QUOTE(Gulatis12 @ Sep 29 2018, 06:46 PM) Thats true bro since i also one of the people who buy from online but not going to buy it again bcoz the low in quality and not really sure if it is guaranteed in terms of originality. Currently, im using Helix Ultra 5w30 and it's much better than the one from online engine oil. My mechanic also recommend helix ultra, I can feel the difference. Somemore my fuel consumption is lower. Afterall, it's just for 2-3 times a year only, so quite worth it for my car compared to the fake ones. |
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QUOTE(Sengil50 @ Sep 27 2018, 09:16 PM) even a shirt or doll also can be fake when buy from them... Its like you buy rejected iphone and you will get low quality iphone. Same goes to engine oil, if you get it from the authorized workshop or petrol station, quality is guaranteed. You can buy shell helix as you join the Shell loyalty, they give a lot of free stuff.but official store its a bit expensive right? if they can lower the price is better... |
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QUOTE(GangretOld23 @ Sep 29 2018, 09:06 PM) Its like you buy rejected iphone and you will get low quality iphone. Same goes to engine oil, if you get it from the authorized workshop or petrol station, quality is guaranteed. You can buy shell helix as you join the Shell loyalty, they give a lot of free stuff. Hurm true, so many fake engine oil in the market now that we cant differentiate between the genuine and the fake ones. Besides, it is also important that you better check whether the workshop is selling genuine engine oil. Oh shell helix also got free stuff, i thought only petronas does it. |
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QUOTE(Davichi Lim @ Sep 29 2018, 09:11 PM) Hurm true, so many fake engine oil in the market now that we cant differentiate between the genuine and the fake ones. Besides, it is also important that you better check whether the workshop is selling genuine engine oil. Oh shell helix also got free stuff, i thought only petronas does it. I also currently used shell helix ultra and i think it did gain my car performance as previously when i use another engine oil, my car feels heavier. You must find high quality and suitable engine oil in order to avoid your car easily break down. |
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QUOTE(RozanaBR @ Sep 29 2018, 06:51 PM) My mechanic also recommend helix ultra, I can feel the difference. Somemore my fuel consumption is lower. Afterall, it's just for 2-3 times a year only, so quite worth it for my car compared to the fake ones. In the end, safety is worth more than the price of engine oil. If you want cheaper in price, you can get at Giant but dont know it's real or fake ones. So, better buy with workshop and petrol station as obviously we cant doubt the originality and quality of the engine oil. My dad told me that Shell also have loyalty program like Castrol. |
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QUOTE(Gulatis12 @ Sep 29 2018, 06:46 PM) Thats true bro since i also one of the people who buy from online but not going to buy it again bcoz the low in quality and not really sure if it is guaranteed in terms of originality. Currently, im using Helix Ultra 5w30 and it's much better than the one from online engine oil. afterall we going to rely the engine for our everyday usage and saving slightly in short-term sounds rather silly. Btw, can i know where do you service your car with Helix Ultra 5w30? Been asking few workshops usually they carry 5W40 for ultra fully synthetic. Mind to recommend? |
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Sep 29 2018, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(DragonAmoii @ Sep 29 2018, 09:23 PM) In the end, safety is worth more than the price of engine oil. If you want cheaper in price, you can get at Giant but dont know it's real or fake ones. So, better buy with workshop and petrol station as obviously we cant doubt the originality and quality of the engine oil. My dad told me that Shell also have loyalty program like Castrol. As I have explained before, what you get from hyper markets are definitely genuine product except they import directly from EU. Also why patrons keep questioning Giant on their products’ packaging difference, which led to Giant putting up notices and memos to ensure customers that their products are genuine. On a second note, petrol stations and service centres will have genuine domestic products without any doubt, but not workshops, you have to understand even workshops can source out for cheap supplies/fakes in order to keep their profit margin. So please be careful with fakes in workshops too, unless they can prove that their products are sourced out from authorised distributors or stockist. |
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Sep 29 2018, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(incredibless @ Sep 29 2018, 11:15 PM) afterall we going to rely the engine for our everyday usage and saving slightly in short-term sounds rather silly. Btw, can i know where do you service your car with Helix Ultra 5w30? Been asking few workshops usually they carry 5W40 for ultra fully synthetic. Mind to recommend? Use thishttps://www.shell.com.my/motorists/oils-lub...ts-locator.html |
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Sep 29 2018, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(plam_purin @ Sep 29 2018, 08:38 PM) Did this engine oil can reduce the engine noisy sound, i need fix my current problem... or it cant fix due to my engine alrdy old? Noise from the engine is not entirely due to the engine oil. It could be many other factors like oil seals or o rings not working, corrosion within engine, belts and pulleys not optimum and much more. Using the best engine oil would not save your engine if it’s already in bad shape/old age. Visit a trustable mechanic, sometimes even forums can’t offer you a solution because how accurate can an online diagnosis be? |
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Just to add, It's a better/safer idea to buy 1 litter bottle then the 4l ones as it's too low profit for scammers. Even my SC and wshop are selling 1ltr bottles instead
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Oct 19 2018, 05:41 PM
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FYI Giant again having promotion on Shell Ultra 5w40 FS at only rm95/4ltr bottle from Oct 11 until 24.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 21 2018, 11:36 AM) Don't use, it's not "Made For Malaysia". How to know? Imho there's no such thing. If only viscosity, API grade, type etc etc. No tropical non tropical category.Your car will suffer heat stroke or getting flu due to non tropicalized formula, there's no spices curry formula into it. |
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Oct 21 2018, 02:58 PM
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I wonder why hypermarket never have deals for 0w30 or 5w30
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Oct 21 2018, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 21 2018, 11:36 AM) Don't use, it's not "Made For Malaysia". Car manual handbook only mentioned the recommended engine oil grade. No mentioed about this special tropical weather friendly engine oil wor.Your car will suffer heat stroke or getting flu due to non tropicalized formula, there's no spices curry formula into it. |
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 21 2018, 11:36 AM) Don't use, it's not "Made For Malaysia". Nonsense la! I have used oils from Tesco/Giant/AEON for the last 8 years and all my engines are still in tip top condition! This oils are direct import from Europe just like if you buy Liqui Moly from Germany, Motul from France, Amsoil from USA or Eneos from Japan, they're perfectly fine to be used here!Your car will suffer heat stroke or getting flu due to non tropicalized formula, there's no spices curry formula into it. |
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QUOTE(effectz @ Oct 19 2018, 05:41 PM) bro, i agree what you mean by different margin. but the previous sharing from one of the member here shows the oil colour is totally different. cant be same spec but different in colour right.. some may be genuine, but how to prove them? |
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Oct 22 2018, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Oct 22 2018, 04:28 PM) bro, i agree what you mean by different margin. but the previous sharing from one of the member here shows the oil colour is totally different. cant be same spec but different in colour right.. some may be genuine, but how to prove them? Tell him to ask the seller then share with us here the answer. |
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Oct 22 2018, 04:28 PM) bro, i agree what you mean by different margin. but the previous sharing from one of the member here shows the oil colour is totally different. cant be same spec but different in colour right.. some may be genuine, but how to prove them? Geng lo ...based on colour ..than you can know the quality and specifications😂😂😂 |
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 21 2018, 11:36 AM) Don't use, it's not "Made For Malaysia". FULL.OF BS....no credibility at all. shell malasyia didn't come out with news/memo regarding "special formulated for Malaysia/Asean/tropical country" on their shell helix engine oil .btw how do you going to explain when even the eo packaging written "made in hongkong".please entertained k/lowyat member to defend your argument.Your car will suffer heat stroke or getting flu due to non tropicalized formula, there's no spices curry formula into it. |
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QUOTE(drewandcutascar @ Sep 22 2018, 05:35 PM) As a part shop owner and online seller that deals with engine oil of various brands, allow me to shed some light on the industry. EO sold in supermarkets/hypermarkets are usually direct import stock from EU or sourced out from Petronas Malaysia itself. Do take note that their packaging would differ from what we can purchase from petrol stations or reputable part shops. Here is why: bro, where's ur shop in Ipoh? Many do not know that most EO sold in our domestic market are actually packed locally under the authorizations of the respective principles such as BP (Castrol), JXTG (Eneos) or Pennzoil (technically owned by Royal Dutch Shell). There are exceptions where authorized distributors import higher end ranges from mainly Singapore (Mobil 1), Hong Kong (Shell) and or Thailand (Castrol). These products' packaging may vary to what is found in hypermarkets but rest assured they are deemed genuine oil as well. For example, we would never see the same EO lineup between the official Pennzoil USA and Pennzoil Malaysia sites. UMW is the authorized manufacturer & distributor for Pennzoil in Malaysia, refining and packaging are done locally, hence explaining the lack of the Ultra Platinum range in our domestic market. It's usually either due to higher cost or incompatible formulation for various regions. As for Castrol, Mobil and Elf, these brands are being sold in our country through regional distributors: Northern (Perlis Kedah Penang Perak), Central (Selangor N9 Malacca) and Southern (Johor Pahang) etc. To me it is a pain in the ass because a Central regional distributor cannot deal with a Perak retailer/wholesaler due to a "No Cross-border" industry policy, vice versa. In short, these are the few companies holding distributorships of major brands monopolizing their "arranged areas". By this point I'm sure many are spitting and questioning "What about the ones being sold on Lazada, Shopee and other platforms?" The truth is, most distributors prohibit vendors to market their products online apart from their own official channels. Liqui Moly is actually prohibited to be sold online. Castrol distributors take a 'one eye open one eye close' approach. Which all leads us to this uncertain gray area where most online vendors operate. Some sellers in the online market are actually the distributors themselves, some are major authorized dealers like Vanli, some are small fry like myself and some are what we call bad apples of the industry. As per the ongoing scandals on fake oil, the operations are usually more rampant in KL and Klang Valley areas due to high demand and competitive pricing, but this has now affected other parts of Malaysia because some vendors purchase 'cheap' supplies from hot areas and reselling them at a huge price slash. Through a few discussions with my own distributors (based in Ipoh, that puts me in the North), we concluded that the lube industry in Malaysia is a vague, competitive wild wild west in expense of the innocent consumers. It is good that KPDNKK are taking complaints, and actions against the bad apples. As a vendor myself, I do acknowledge the accountability that sellers should hold to buyers - to provide genuine quality at a fair price. Though we all know that is not always the case in this flawed system, I urge that consumers to not cheap out on what they put into their vehicles. It is true that most want the best bang for the buck, but very often this demand pushes for the supply of cheap, low quality shady products which exist in our very surrounding. To ensure your peace of mind, the primary solution is to get services done in your vehicles' respective SC. If the unreasonably high cost is a concern, EO sold in Tesco/Aeon/Giant are definitely legit, do take note that EU formulations and additives might not be the best for our tropical climate but rest assured, they are safe to use. If you have a favorite part/online shop where you frequent, don't feel shy to ask them questions on the product you're buying into, it is your right and their job to enlighten you. IF, the price is too good to be true, it is definitely too good to be true. Shop wisely, carefully but not cheaply! Cheers all |
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QUOTE(drewandcutascar @ Sep 22 2018, 05:35 PM) As a part shop owner and online seller that deals with engine oil of various brands, allow me to shed some light on the industry. EO sold in supermarkets/hypermarkets are usually direct import stock from EU or sourced out from Petronas Malaysia itself. Do take note that their packaging would differ from what we can purchase from petrol stations or reputable part shops. Here is why: Where is Torco, Chemlube, HKS, Miller's oil in your Higher range? Tak ada also. What about those?Many do not know that most EO sold in our domestic market are actually packed locally under the authorizations of the respective principles such as BP (Castrol), JXTG (Eneos) or Pennzoil (technically owned by Royal Dutch Shell). There are exceptions where authorized distributors import higher end ranges from mainly Singapore (Mobil 1), Hong Kong (Shell) and or Thailand (Castrol). These products' packaging may vary to what is found in hypermarkets but rest assured they are deemed genuine oil as well. For example, we would never see the same EO lineup between the official Pennzoil USA and Pennzoil Malaysia sites. UMW is the authorized manufacturer & distributor for Pennzoil in Malaysia, refining and packaging are done locally, hence explaining the lack of the Ultra Platinum range in our domestic market. It's usually either due to higher cost or incompatible formulation for various regions. As for Castrol, Mobil and Elf, these brands are being sold in our country through regional distributors: Northern (Perlis Kedah Penang Perak), Central (Selangor N9 Malacca) and Southern (Johor Pahang) etc. To me it is a pain in the ass because a Central regional distributor cannot deal with a Perak retailer/wholesaler due to a "No Cross-border" industry policy, vice versa. In short, these are the few companies holding distributorships of major brands monopolizing their "arranged areas". By this point I'm sure many are spitting and questioning "What about the ones being sold on Lazada, Shopee and other platforms?" The truth is, most distributors prohibit vendors to market their products online apart from their own official channels. Liqui Moly is actually prohibited to be sold online. Castrol distributors take a 'one eye open one eye close' approach. Which all leads us to this uncertain gray area where most online vendors operate. Some sellers in the online market are actually the distributors themselves, some are major authorized dealers like Vanli, some are small fry like myself and some are what we call bad apples of the industry. As per the ongoing scandals on fake oil, the operations are usually more rampant in KL and Klang Valley areas due to high demand and competitive pricing, but this has now affected other parts of Malaysia because some vendors purchase 'cheap' supplies from hot areas and reselling them at a huge price slash. Through a few discussions with my own distributors (based in Ipoh, that puts me in the North), we concluded that the lube industry in Malaysia is a vague, competitive wild wild west in expense of the innocent consumers. It is good that KPDNKK are taking complaints, and actions against the bad apples. As a vendor myself, I do acknowledge the accountability that sellers should hold to buyers - to provide genuine quality at a fair price. Though we all know that is not always the case in this flawed system, I urge that consumers to not cheap out on what they put into their vehicles. It is true that most want the best bang for the buck, but very often this demand pushes for the supply of cheap, low quality shady products which exist in our very surrounding. To ensure your peace of mind, the primary solution is to get services done in your vehicles' respective SC. If the unreasonably high cost is a concern, EO sold in Tesco/Aeon/Giant are definitely legit, do take note that EU formulations and additives might not be the best for our tropical climate but rest assured, they are safe to use. If you have a favorite part/online shop where you frequent, don't feel shy to ask them questions on the product you're buying into, it is your right and their job to enlighten you. IF, the price is too good to be true, it is definitely too good to be true. Shop wisely, carefully but not cheaply! Cheers all Sports cars in malaysia fill up Millers Nanotech or Chemlube Ester or Torco |
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 16 2019, 11:58 PM) Where is Torco, Chemlube, HKS, Miller's oil in your Higher range? Tak ada also. What about those? Sports cars use Mobil 1 factory fill most of the time. Like Nissan GTR. Ferrari use Shell. I don’t think any sports car or supercar manufacturer use any of the brands you mentioned as factory fill. Sports cars in malaysia fill up Millers Nanotech or Chemlube Ester or Torco Betul ker those brands are higher range. Sounds like only idiots use those engine oil and void their warranty. BMW M2 and M4 consider sports car? Those use BMW Castrol engine oil. Subaru BRZ uses Subaru branded oil which is made by Idemitsu. Which sports car manufacturer use those brands you mention? Please share? Or just stupid owners who got conned by sellers and pour those rubbish in their cars and void their warranty. |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « You got to look at the buyers of these cars first. If the guy buys it, and he lazy to think much about it, then send to service center and let them do everything. The other thing is some of these cars are sold by grey importers as recond car. Definitely very limited warranty. In fact you could say no warranty when you could get almost 50% off from the officially priced one. But if you are a gear head, you buy the car and want to play around with it, you would not care about warranty. So change wheels, add body kits, flash ECU, change bigger turbo, add support bars, etc. Flashing ECU to get more power already voids warranty. Which do you think is more likely to kill and engine? Flashing ECU? Or changing to another expensive brand engine oil? |
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Jan 17 2019, 11:15 AM
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Any benefit for normal daily car using those 100% fully synthetic blend oil instead of normal production of fully synthetic?
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Jan 17 2019, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Jason @ Jan 17 2019, 09:28 AM) Sports cars use Mobil 1 factory fill most of the time. Like Nissan GTR. Ferrari use Shell. I don’t think any sports car or supercar manufacturer use any of the brands you mentioned as factory fill. Wow. Ur knowledge is shallow and ur ignorance is laughable Betul ker those brands are higher range. Sounds like only idiots use those engine oil and void their warranty. BMW M2 and M4 consider sports car? Those use BMW Castrol engine oil. Subaru BRZ uses Subaru branded oil which is made by Idemitsu. Which sports car manufacturer use those brands you mention? Please share? Or just stupid owners who got conned by sellers and pour those rubbish in their cars and void their warranty. Just bec the company recommends or service centre use that is that the best? What warranty void. Nv mod engine also. For example Miller oil is using ester based triple formula, torco chemlube has ester based ranges. Those group V based stock oil if coupled with additives are far better than ur capalang castrol group 3 fake full synthetic oil. |
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 17 2019, 08:26 PM) Wow. Ur knowledge is shallow and ur ignorance is laughable lolJust bec the company recommends or service centre use that is that the best? What warranty void. Nv mod engine also. For example Miller oil is using ester based triple formula, torco chemlube has ester based ranges. Those group V based stock oil if coupled with additives are far better than ur capalang castrol group 3 fake full synthetic oil. You pour those rubbish in your Ferrari and then ask Naza to honor the warranty la. Oh wait you too poor buy recon or used Ferrari. |
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QUOTE(hafiez @ Jan 18 2019, 12:20 PM) I don't know if it will damage the car, but it confirm void warranty.And it takes almost 5 hours to change engine oil on the Huracan, you sure the workshop knows how to do it? https://jalopnik.com/changing-the-oil-on-a-...ibly-1828159463 This post has been edited by Jason: Jan 18 2019, 04:47 PM |
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 21 2018, 11:36 AM) Don't use, it's not "Made For Malaysia". Follow the API rating, no such things as localized version. Your car will suffer heat stroke or getting flu due to non tropicalized formula, there's no spices curry formula into it. Just make sure the oil is original, follow the car manufacturers oil requirements n good to go. |
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this seller seem like selling fake engine oil as well
https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/jpc-auto-supply bought 1 from them , the oil quality same like those fake engine oil. try to refund but rejected. This post has been edited by passport8888: Jan 20 2019, 01:56 PM |
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QUOTE(Jason @ Jan 18 2019, 04:45 PM) I don't know if it will damage the car, but it confirm void warranty. 😓 wow super high maintenance and fussy babe....And it takes almost 5 hours to change engine oil on the Huracan, you sure the workshop knows how to do it? https://jalopnik.com/changing-the-oil-on-a-...ibly-1828159463 |
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QUOTE(passport8888 @ Jan 20 2019, 01:54 PM) this seller seem like selling fake engine oil as well Try to push lazada. So far the cs is ok with refund if it true due to error or problem by the seller.https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/jpc-auto-supply bought 1 from them , the oil quality same like those fake engine oil. try to refund but rejected. |
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Just for your information. EO cost is only half of retail price. My uncle is Mlaysia sole distributor for GeselHeinz Germany and manufacturer for Petrolpenn ( though only famous in northern region).
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Was browsing for EO and reading posted questions at Lazada sellers. This Lazada seller mentioned by TS, replied in one of the question saying TS and this thread is spreading false news. I am getting confused
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QUOTE(ykj @ Jan 22 2019, 02:27 PM) Was browsing for EO and reading posted questions at Lazada sellers. This Lazada seller mentioned by TS, replied in one of the question saying TS and this thread is spreading false news. I am getting confused IMO, most of the 'accusations' here are unsubstantiated and unsupported by the simplest of all in an Oil Analysis.I wouldn't be surprised if formal complaints are lodged with authorities (which, most or all of complainers here don't) , it's likely a buang kes. Other than Tesco/Giant/Aeon Big, the 'made in Hong Kong' Shell oils online here are genuine IMO , and don't bother with the 'genuine' and ridiculously high-priced Made In Malaysia Shell oils . This post has been edited by zeng: Jan 22 2019, 04:49 PM k9182 liked this post
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QUOTE(passport8888 @ Jan 20 2019, 01:54 PM) this seller seem like selling fake engine oil as well this seller is easy return . can they reject the refund ? shop in lazada for 3yrs+ , never get rejected refund before...all my refund very smoothhttps://www.lazada.com.my/shop/jpc-auto-supply bought 1 from them , the oil quality same like those fake engine oil. try to refund but rejected. |
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QUOTE(ykj @ Jan 22 2019, 02:27 PM) Was browsing for EO and reading posted questions at Lazada sellers. This Lazada seller mentioned by TS, replied in one of the question saying TS and this thread is spreading false news. I am getting confused Got a lot well known/reputable supplier & authorised spareparts shop in Lazada like ECAS, Vanli, NKS & etc.. I always compared with actual market price and ignore those with lower ball one.. |
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Is it safe to buy engine oil from Vanli?
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QUOTE(langatian @ Jan 23 2019, 04:54 PM) Is it safe to buy engine oil from Vanli? I bought from Vanli before, seems fine.https://www.lazada.com.my/products/shell-he...-s21054585.html |
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QUOTE(langatian @ Jan 23 2019, 04:54 PM) Is it safe to buy engine oil from Vanli? https://www.lazada.com.my/products/shell-he...-s21054585.html QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jan 23 2019, 05:00 PM) QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 23 2019, 06:17 PM) what about this?https://www.lazada.com.my/products/ten-full...75aewnA54B&mp=3 from vanli as well |
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QUOTE(langatian @ Jan 23 2019, 04:54 PM) Is it safe to buy engine oil from Vanli? Vanli is one of Authorised Spareparts for Toyota, Nissan, Honda & etc and dont surprise they also one of SC source for spareparts if SC parts out of stock (need urgent)..https://www.lazada.com.my/products/shell-he...-s21054585.html |
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QUOTE(diversity @ Jan 23 2019, 09:52 PM) This just one of option if you want cheaper Fully Sync EO.. I would buy from them rather than unknown seller..http://www.vanli.com.my/vanli/ The biggest Auto Parts stokist was Hua Hong Auto Supplies & price is cheaper than others.. cause even big co like Vanli parts also source from them. This post has been edited by Oldskolboyz: Jan 23 2019, 10:18 PM |
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Jan 23 2019, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(diversity @ Jan 23 2019, 09:52 PM) I always say this when advising about oil: buy reputable brands from trusted sellers. So there are 2 important criterias there: 1. reputable brands, and 2. trusted sellers. Vanli may fulfill the 2nd criteria but that oil certainly does NOT meet the 1st criteria. pandikar liked this post
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If any1 have doubt in Vanli, may I suggest this; just go to google map and search for vanli. then take a look at the size and number (quantity) of their shops and decide from there.
much like giant/tesco/aeonbig, do you think it is worthwhile for them to cheat you? Give it a thought and share with us what you think. |
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Vanli has been around for a long time. Bought a lot of ori parts from them.
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QUOTE(diversity @ Jan 23 2019, 09:52 PM) What car are you driving that you're so selective about the oil? You don't need to top end products nor need to buy from petrol stations which are very expensive, but at least don't cheap out. If you're afraid, get this shell oil instead, northern american formulation, very unlikely to have faked out as the packaging is too rare in local market (if you're worry about the helix ultra being fake) : https://www.lazada.com.my/products/formula-...4a05nklOMR&mp=1 (they also available in shopee, can use free shipping coupon to save on shipping fees) I got myself this some time ago, sealed 6 quart box. |
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That owl station at Lazala still selling freely without any action from Lazada... Omg..
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thanks so very much!! QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 21 2018, 11:36 AM) Don't use, it's not "Made For Malaysia". The "Made in Malaysia" is an effort from Shell to stop parallel imports for eo meant for other region saja. But quality wise, should be same. Eo is dependant on viscocity etcc, dun think the mix is any different between tropical or not.Your car will suffer heat stroke or getting flu due to non tropicalized formula, there's no spices curry formula into it. This post has been edited by 1tanmee: Feb 20 2019, 02:56 PM |
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most supported vanli, but the few oil i wanted. alot comment said old stock. lol
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Feb 21 2019, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 20 2019, 02:56 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thanks so very much!! The "Made in Malaysia" is an effort from Shell to stop parallel imports for eo meant for other region saja. But quality wise, should be same. Eo is dependant on viscocity etcc, dun think the mix is any different between tropical or not. |
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QUOTE(drewandcutascar @ Sep 22 2018, 05:35 PM) As a part shop owner and online seller that deals with engine oil of various brands, allow me to shed some light on the industry. EO sold in supermarkets/hypermarkets are usually direct import stock from EU or sourced out from Petronas Malaysia itself. Do take note that their packaging would differ from what we can purchase from petrol stations or reputable part shops. Here is why: thank you for sharing those information. Many do not know that most EO sold in our domestic market are actually packed locally under the authorizations of the respective principles such as BP (Castrol), JXTG (Eneos) or Pennzoil (technically owned by Royal Dutch Shell). There are exceptions where authorized distributors import higher end ranges from mainly Singapore (Mobil 1), Hong Kong (Shell) and or Thailand (Castrol). These products' packaging may vary to what is found in hypermarkets but rest assured they are deemed genuine oil as well. For example, we would never see the same EO lineup between the official Pennzoil USA and Pennzoil Malaysia sites. UMW is the authorized manufacturer & distributor for Pennzoil in Malaysia, refining and packaging are done locally, hence explaining the lack of the Ultra Platinum range in our domestic market. It's usually either due to higher cost or incompatible formulation for various regions. As for Castrol, Mobil and Elf, these brands are being sold in our country through regional distributors: Northern (Perlis Kedah Penang Perak), Central (Selangor N9 Malacca) and Southern (Johor Pahang) etc. To me it is a pain in the ass because a Central regional distributor cannot deal with a Perak retailer/wholesaler due to a "No Cross-border" industry policy, vice versa. In short, these are the few companies holding distributorships of major brands monopolizing their "arranged areas". By this point I'm sure many are spitting and questioning "What about the ones being sold on Lazada, Shopee and other platforms?" The truth is, most distributors prohibit vendors to market their products online apart from their own official channels. Liqui Moly is actually prohibited to be sold online. Castrol distributors take a 'one eye open one eye close' approach. Which all leads us to this uncertain gray area where most online vendors operate. Some sellers in the online market are actually the distributors themselves, some are major authorized dealers like Vanli, some are small fry like myself and some are what we call bad apples of the industry. As per the ongoing scandals on fake oil, the operations are usually more rampant in KL and Klang Valley areas due to high demand and competitive pricing, but this has now affected other parts of Malaysia because some vendors purchase 'cheap' supplies from hot areas and reselling them at a huge price slash. Through a few discussions with my own distributors (based in Ipoh, that puts me in the North), we concluded that the lube industry in Malaysia is a vague, competitive wild wild west in expense of the innocent consumers. It is good that KPDNKK are taking complaints, and actions against the bad apples. As a vendor myself, I do acknowledge the accountability that sellers should hold to buyers - to provide genuine quality at a fair price. Though we all know that is not always the case in this flawed system, I urge that consumers to not cheap out on what they put into their vehicles. It is true that most want the best bang for the buck, but very often this demand pushes for the supply of cheap, low quality shady products which exist in our very surrounding. To ensure your peace of mind, the primary solution is to get services done in your vehicles' respective SC. If the unreasonably high cost is a concern, EO sold in Tesco/Aeon/Giant are definitely legit, do take note that EU formulations and additives might not be the best for our tropical climate but rest assured, they are safe to use. If you have a favorite part/online shop where you frequent, don't feel shy to ask them questions on the product you're buying into, it is your right and their job to enlighten you. IF, the price is too good to be true, it is definitely too good to be true. Shop wisely, carefully but not cheaply! Cheers all appreciate much! |
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ECAS is reliable shop in lazada?
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QUOTE(agen290 @ Jan 24 2019, 04:35 PM) Yes, they are also selling the so called Honda Genuine Oil. I've spoken to an authorized Honda Stockist and they informed me that even their cost price from Honda can't match Owl's Station's engine oil pricing.So I assume they are selling fakes unless they can inform or educate users on how they can sell it so cheap. |
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So conclu buy from aeon/Tesco and authorized SC ?
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Engine oil (EO) selling in Tesco/AEON/GIant are legit and their supplies are approved vendors with proper procedures.
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For mobil 1, go to their website. Look for places to buy. Visit them. Pay the full retail price. You won't go wrong there. The same can be said about other brands.
The margin for EO is very slim if they take from original manufacturer. The original manufacturer can sell to these distributors but they cannot stop these distributors from mixed genuine with fake goods. OM also gave up on enforcing their rights so it's a buyers beware market for EO. If you want it cheap, please be prepared to bear the risk. |
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pity those genuine honest EO seller.
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QUOTE(buyou12 @ Mar 14 2019, 12:42 PM) For mobil 1, go to their website. Look for places to buy. Visit them. Pay the full retail price. You won't go wrong there. The same can be said about other brands. Who said EO margin very slim/small.. EO margin around 40% - 50%.. Derrr.. coz I have work as runner at big sparepart shop before & got sibling / frend running a few petrol station till now..The margin for EO is very slim if they take from original manufacturer. The original manufacturer can sell to these distributors but they cannot stop these distributors from mixed genuine with fake goods. OM also gave up on enforcing their rights so it's a buyers beware market for EO. If you want it cheap, please be prepared to bear the risk. This post has been edited by Oldskolboyz: Mar 14 2019, 01:05 PM |
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yes, all eo sold at Giant and Tesco are fake, don't buy it! Because I'm having a tough time getting one, it has been selling like hot cake, shit damn.
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Reading this reminds me of a terrible experience from this seller.
I bought 2 bottles of Petronas 10w-40 from them last year and shockingly one has a date printed on the bottle from the past and one has a date from the future. And I returned one of the bottle only because my engine has a very low level of engine oil at that time as the engine 'makan minyak' and I perform another oil change a week after I bought this bottle of oil. I also used to buy this Mizu brand engine oil for my Proton Waja. It was good when the bottle is still blue colour for 10w-40, my engine was still smooth after 8,000 km using that bottle but the quality went south after they change the colour of their bottle to green colour. My engine have this loud knocking sound after I go above 140km/h and my mech suggested me to perform an oil change and it solved the problem. And because my mech told me Petronas oil is one of the oil out there that would still give me a smooth engine even after using it for 8,000 km, I now only buy from one auto on Shopee. I used to buy them from ECAS but I prefer the 'Made in Malaysia' one even when it comes at a higher price. There wasn't any difference in terms of smell between the petronas sold by ECAS and one auto but I just don't like those from EU as my engine feels rough using those oil from EU regardless of brand all the time. |
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QUOTE(xiaomifeng @ Apr 21 2019, 01:52 PM) Reading this reminds me of a terrible experience from this seller. Where u bought the mizu engine oil? I bought 2 bottles of Petronas 10w-40 from them last year and shockingly one has a date printed on the bottle from the past and one has a date from the future. And I returned one of the bottle only because my engine has a very low level of engine oil at that time as the engine 'makan minyak' and I perform another oil change a week after I bought this bottle of oil. I also used to buy this Mizu brand engine oil for my Proton Waja. It was good when the bottle is still blue colour for 10w-40, my engine was still smooth after 8,000 km using that bottle but the quality went south after they change the colour of their bottle to green colour. My engine have this loud knocking sound after I go above 140km/h and my mech suggested me to perform an oil change and it solved the problem. And because my mech told me Petronas oil is one of the oil out there that would still give me a smooth engine even after using it for 8,000 km, I now only buy from one auto on Shopee. I used to buy them from ECAS but I prefer the 'Made in Malaysia' one even when it comes at a higher price. There wasn't any difference in terms of smell between the petronas sold by ECAS and one auto but I just don't like those from EU as my engine feels rough using those oil from EU regardless of brand all the time. I bought from lazada, so far the fully syn 5w40 works fine for me |
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Apr 21 2019, 03:02 PM) Cant find at Lazada anymore. Maybe someone reported already. Now he's selling at 11street: https://www.11street.my/store/owlstation Shopee also: https://shopee.com.my/frankielim.123 Frankie Lim This post has been edited by agen290: Apr 25 2019, 10:51 AM |
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QUOTE(agen290 @ Apr 25 2019, 10:48 AM) Cant find at Lazada anymore. Maybe someone reported already. Now he's selling at 11street: Thanks Agen....normally i purchase mine from lazada only.....and i do look out that the seller is a actual shop instead of online seller. It just irks me to see this kinda fake sellers...sigh!https://www.11street.my/store/owlstation Shopee also: https://shopee.com.my/frankielim.123 Frankie Lim |
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QUOTE(agen290 @ Apr 25 2019, 10:48 AM) Cant find at Lazada anymore. Maybe someone reported already. Now he's selling at 11street: Still around https://www.11street.my/store/owlstation Shopee also: https://shopee.com.my/frankielim.123 Frankie Lim https://s.lazada.com.my/s.GvVv |
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do u guys think liqui moly at Lazada also fake ?
it's like 100 bucks cheaper https://www.lazada.com.my/catalog/?q=liqui+....745a9ad1OaqDGm |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 25 2019, 06:42 PM) do u guys think liqui moly at Lazada also fake ? That one flagship store no problem.it's like 100 bucks cheaper https://www.lazada.com.my/catalog/?q=liqui+....745a9ad1OaqDGm |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 25 2019, 07:42 PM) do u guys think liqui moly at Lazada also fake ? The review from the buyer (Laszada). Bahaya..it's like 100 bucks cheaper https://www.lazada.com.my/catalog/?q=liqui+....745a9ad1OaqDGm "by Lazada CustomerVerified Purchase Suspect recycle oil..at 5km oil change the oil extremely dark colour. Even the foreman also surprised he said looks like a ‘one million km’ oil usage. Also if u compare the smell with the original shell, this one smell like burnt smell. Go try yourself if u don’t believe me. I used this oil 2x with the same result. " |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 25 2019, 06:42 PM) do u guys think liqui moly at Lazada also fake ? Not fake as i encounter, bought a few from Lazada and shopee and tried it myself.it's like 100 bucks cheaper https://www.lazada.com.my/catalog/?q=liqui+....745a9ad1OaqDGm Mat Motor - Lazada DCS motor - Lazada Paul Hew - Shopee (So far cheapest i ever found) So far didn't encounter any counterfeit Liqui Moly product, their product is quite hard to counterfeit, for MOS it will be dark grey in colour, for molygen it will be green in colour |
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QUOTE(magnesium @ May 17 2018, 01:23 AM) we can do such action against them? QUOTE(iamoracle @ May 17 2018, 12:01 PM) I had similar experience. I bought Castrol Magnetec 10W-40 Semi from another seller in Lazada. May I know why u all like to buy EO from lazada? How you all change the oil? change yourself?One fine day while doing housekeeping, I noticed the bottle cracked and oil was leaking from the bottom. Then, I quickly transferred it to another empty bottle. I noticed the oil is less thicker (like diluted) than original one. Now, I dare not buy from Lazada no matter how cheap it is. I can't imagine how much the repair cost if engine is damaged by fake oil. I wrote a letter to BP Malaysia asking them to authenticate the item. I shared with them the Lazada URL. Below is their reply. |
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What about coolant? Are there any fakes? How to find out fake and real?
Price difference is so much.... https://shopee.com.my/TCL-LONG-LIFE-COOLANT...6858.1491189135 https://shopee.com.my/(MADE-IN-JAPAN)-TCL-R...7756.1433913138 |
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QUOTE(se800i @ Apr 26 2019, 10:07 AM) we can do such action against them? recently i bring all my engine oil, filter, fan belt, alternator belt, gearbox oil, spark plugs to change.May I know why u all like to buy EO from lazada? How you all change the oil? change yourself? workshop charge me RM 80 for workmanship only. workshop will top up a bit on the parts together with workmanship if you get everything from them (imagine every part more expensive 20% than shop price) thing is you wont know it's genuine or not unless go back to SC, and SC will chop u into many pieces. example my friend change gearbox oil at SC, they charge RM 220. same gearbox oil for only RM 100 (bought at jalan segambut Mazda parts shop), plus labor should be RM 120 only. so save RM 100 on engine oil alone. for small oil service can save minimum 150, so i use the savings to do engine treatment everytime service, car feels new everytime after service major service can save above 400 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- like gf car pay 130 for semi-syn engine oil, i buy Shell full synthetic engine oil from Tesco, RM130 also. 7k vs 10k mileage for same amount paid. there are also other ways to save money on maintenance, just ppl dont bothered and lazy to research on it This post has been edited by AllnGap: Apr 26 2019, 11:53 AM |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 25 2019, 10:04 PM) Flagship store been verified by lazada. So far all my purchase bought from flagship are good and genuine, but not LM la. QUOTE(HJ_Ishimori @ Apr 25 2019, 10:25 PM) The review from the buyer (Laszada). Bahaya.. Yes, exactly."by Lazada CustomerVerified Purchase Suspect recycle oil..at 5km oil change the oil extremely dark colour. Even the foreman also surprised he said looks like a ‘one million km’ oil usage. Also if u compare the smell with the original shell, this one smell like burnt smell. Go try yourself if u don’t believe me. I used this oil 2x with the same result. " |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 26 2019, 10:01 AM) Not fake as i encounter, bought a few from Lazada and shopee and tried it myself. can u give me direct link to those store ?Mat Motor - Lazada DCS motor - Lazada Paul Hew - Shopee (So far cheapest i ever found) So far didn't encounter any counterfeit Liqui Moly product, their product is quite hard to counterfeit, for MOS it will be dark grey in colour, for molygen it will be green in colour i no idea how to navigate around lazada, thanks |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 26 2019, 02:13 PM) Cheapest i found for few months ago is this shop, i think liqui moly don't have counterfeit product, but try to avoid shell if possiblehttps://shopee.com.my/shop/19534140/ |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 26 2019, 02:26 PM) Cheapest i found for few months ago is this shop, i think liqui moly don't have counterfeit product, but try to avoid shell if possible Thanks. I found the oil I was looking for at Lazada.https://shopee.com.my/shop/19534140/ Apparently some review said it was dated 2018. Probably old oil from Europe I think |
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QUOTE(se800i @ Apr 26 2019, 10:07 AM) we can do such action against them? Change engine oil very easyYes No harm making a report to kpdn May I know why u all like to buy EO from lazada? How you all change the oil? change yourself? Need simple tools and get hand dirty when replace eo filter But of coz I only doit after warranty period is over |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 26 2019, 02:45 PM) Thanks. I found the oil I was looking for at Lazada. When i bought the last bottle of MOS2 10W30, the manufacture date indeed was at year 2018. Can't blame them for that because they order in bulk.Apparently some review said it was dated 2018. Probably old oil from Europe I think |
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Have any of you guys tried this engine oil brand before? It's called VTAG
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QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Apr 26 2019, 03:09 PM) Have any of you guys tried this engine oil brand before? It's called VTAG dont waste time compare this brand and that brand .just stick to one particular and get it frm ur trusted spare part shop . https://www.lazada.com.my/-i240684052-s3161...lFlag=true&mp=1 Over 300+ positive reviews. Seems legit to me but unsure if it's a good buy.. price wise , u wont save much . |
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Apr 26 2019, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 26 2019, 11:48 AM) recently i bring all my engine oil, filter, fan belt, alternator belt, gearbox oil, spark plugs to change. how and what exactly is engine treatment u do?workshop charge me RM 80 for workmanship only. workshop will top up a bit on the parts together with workmanship if you get everything from them (imagine every part more expensive 20% than shop price) thing is you wont know it's genuine or not unless go back to SC, and SC will chop u into many pieces. example my friend change gearbox oil at SC, they charge RM 220. same gearbox oil for only RM 100 (bought at jalan segambut Mazda parts shop), plus labor should be RM 120 only. so save RM 100 on engine oil alone. for small oil service can save minimum 150, so i use the savings to do engine treatment everytime service, car feels new everytime after service major service can save above 400 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- like gf car pay 130 for semi-syn engine oil, i buy Shell full synthetic engine oil from Tesco, RM130 also. 7k vs 10k mileage for same amount paid. there are also other ways to save money on maintenance, just ppl dont bothered and lazy to research on it |
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Apr 27 2019, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(Lion Cut @ Apr 27 2019, 03:51 PM) seafoam, pour some liquid into fuel tank and crankcase https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...2120&hl=seafoam |
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bought 2 times with owl station with petronas EO, cheaper but feeling abit different. i thought it because car getting age....
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Apr 29 2019, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Apr 26 2019, 12:33 PM) What about coolant? Are there any fakes? How to find out fake and real? I oso want to know how to recognize it.Price difference is so much.... https://shopee.com.my/TCL-LONG-LIFE-COOLANT...6858.1491189135 https://shopee.com.my/(MADE-IN-JAPAN)-TCL-R...7756.1433913138 QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 26 2019, 12:48 PM) recently i bring all my engine oil, filter, fan belt, alternator belt, gearbox oil, spark plugs to change. But do you realize that if everytime u go to that shop and ask them help to change these parts they will like not willing to help you even though u pay them workmanship...workshop charge me RM 80 for workmanship only. workshop will top up a bit on the parts together with workmanship if you get everything from them (imagine every part more expensive 20% than shop price) thing is you wont know it's genuine or not unless go back to SC, and SC will chop u into many pieces. example my friend change gearbox oil at SC, they charge RM 220. same gearbox oil for only RM 100 (bought at jalan segambut Mazda parts shop), plus labor should be RM 120 only. so save RM 100 on engine oil alone. for small oil service can save minimum 150, so i use the savings to do engine treatment everytime service, car feels new everytime after service major service can save above 400 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- like gf car pay 130 for semi-syn engine oil, i buy Shell full synthetic engine oil from Tesco, RM130 also. 7k vs 10k mileage for same amount paid. there are also other ways to save money on maintenance, just ppl dont bothered and lazy to research on it QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 26 2019, 03:13 PM) QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 26 2019, 03:26 PM) Cheapest i found for few months ago is this shop, i think liqui moly don't have counterfeit product, but try to avoid shell if possible I found it too... Thankshttps://shopee.com.my/shop/19534140/ QUOTE(magnesium @ Apr 26 2019, 03:51 PM) Change engine oil very easy Yes I know changing EO is easy n simple... But I am not mechanic so better give to workshop to do laNeed simple tools and get hand dirty when replace eo filter But of coz I only doit after warranty period is over |
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Apr 29 2019, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(se800i @ Apr 29 2019, 01:39 PM) I oso want to know how to recognize it. Yes I know they not willing. LolBut do you realize that if everytime u go to that shop and ask them help to change these parts they will like not willing to help you even though u pay them workmanship... I found it too... Thanks Yes I know changing EO is easy n simple... But I am not mechanic so better give to workshop to do la I'd rather pay them higher workmanship than to get chopped via parts because u won't know what they put in |
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Apr 29 2019, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(se800i @ Apr 29 2019, 02:26 PM) ya all my 3 cars send to them.my major service i bought about 900 worth of parts and oil, they charge me 80 bucks to change all. (change 2 belts, engine oil, gear oil, replace spark plug) all parts are original mazda. seriously if they charge me 150 for workmanship i also pay, because i know they earn quite a lot from parts also. During major service you dont frequently change those parts (like every couple of years) and u get chopped cuz dont even have an idea how much it will cost. shops they bulk own brand of engine oil, so they tend to push those oil (some never heard before the brand) the other thing is you dont know they put in original parts or OEM, while i know everything i put in is all original. Cheap car use i take their oil filter and intake filter lo, since i buy own Shell full syn oil already extend 3,000km mileage compared to same price get semi syn 7,000km mileage. But for expensive car i buy everything myself. |
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Apr 29 2019, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 29 2019, 04:37 PM) ya all my 3 cars send to them. Good idea as if doing like you too... My car warranty is going to over by early next year... I think I got to do the same like you...my major service i bought about 900 worth of parts and oil, they charge me 80 bucks to change all. (change 2 belts, engine oil, gear oil, replace spark plug) all parts are original mazda. seriously if they charge me 150 for workmanship i also pay, because i know they earn quite a lot from parts also. During major service you dont frequently change those parts (like every couple of years) and u get chopped cuz dont even have an idea how much it will cost. shops they bulk own brand of engine oil, so they tend to push those oil (some never heard before the brand) the other thing is you dont know they put in original parts or OEM, while i know everything i put in is all original. Cheap car use i take their oil filter and intake filter lo, since i buy own Shell full syn oil already extend 3,000km mileage compared to same price get semi syn 7,000km mileage. But for expensive car i buy everything myself. |
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Apr 29 2019, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(se800i @ Apr 29 2019, 03:43 PM) Good idea as if doing like you too... My car warranty is going to over by early next year... I think I got to do the same like you... start finding your own car parts shop and ask them what part need to change at what mileage lo.once u buy one time, you'll be surprised how much SC earned from you. i've ordered some special liquid to preserve rubber parts on my car too. can spray all the parts on next service (ball joints, steering rack rubbers, etc etc) can also save thousands as our weather and sunlight will wear rubber parts so much faster. rubber parts dry and harden gonna spend thousands man. can be litigated by preventive maintenance This post has been edited by AllnGap: Apr 29 2019, 03:55 PM |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 29 2019, 03:54 PM) start finding your own car parts shop and ask them what part need to change at what mileage lo. got photo of the special liquid for rubber?once u buy one time, you'll be surprised how much SC earned from you. i've ordered some special liquid to preserve rubber parts on my car too. can spray all the parts on next service (ball joints, steering rack rubbers, etc etc) can also save thousands as our weather and sunlight will wear rubber parts so much faster. rubber parts dry and harden gonna spend thousands man. can be litigated by preventive maintenance |
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QUOTE(Lion Cut @ May 1 2019, 03:06 PM) gf old saga BLM steering fluid just leaked out, luckily spotted it before damaging whole rack. 10year old car, all the rubber parts already harden and start cracking d. this is not my car, but just to show the rubbery parts, or bush they call it. all the funny noise and shaky things are due to these rubber parts getting dry, harden and crack. from steering rack, arm joints, engine mounting, crossmember frame bush, suspension struts, belts are all made of rubber. all cars after 10years behave like crap because all the rubber is failing. ![]() link thread here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...770205&hl=at205 This post has been edited by AllnGap: May 1 2019, 03:30 PM |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 29 2019, 04:54 PM) start finding your own car parts shop and ask them what part need to change at what mileage lo. the special liquid u know how to apply it to those rubbers that u mentioned earlier? once u buy one time, you'll be surprised how much SC earned from you. i've ordered some special liquid to preserve rubber parts on my car too. can spray all the parts on next service (ball joints, steering rack rubbers, etc etc) can also save thousands as our weather and sunlight will wear rubber parts so much faster. rubber parts dry and harden gonna spend thousands man. can be litigated by preventive maintenance QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 1 2019, 04:25 PM) gf old saga BLM steering fluid just leaked out, luckily spotted it before damaging whole rack. This is the brand?10year old car, all the rubber parts already harden and start cracking d. this is not my car, but just to show the rubbery parts, or bush they call it. all the funny noise and shaky things are due to these rubber parts getting dry, harden and crack. from steering rack, arm joints, engine mounting, crossmember frame bush, suspension struts, belts are all made of rubber. all cars after 10years behave like crap because all the rubber is failing. ![]() link thread here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...770205&hl=at205 |
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QUOTE(se800i @ May 2 2019, 10:15 AM) the special liquid u know how to apply it to those rubbers that u mentioned earlier? ya already applied on the old car.This is the brand? just spray it on can d, but need to identify where got those joints my newer car got squeak noise when passing bump after some minor accident, after apply one night tomorrow no noise liao. if wanna change struts at least another 500 bucks. places need to spray is where there's rubber (rubber start failing above 7years) 1. engine mounting (spray some let it absorb then spray again cuz the rubber is very big piece, need to let it soak) 2. arm 3. front suspension struts 4. steering rack cover, 2covers on one side 5. rear wheel suspension sleeve 6. crossmember bush refer to picture below ![]() This post has been edited by AllnGap: May 2 2019, 10:34 AM |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 1 2019, 03:25 PM) gf old saga BLM steering fluid just leaked out, luckily spotted it before damaging whole rack. Bro, can I know where you got thi ATP AT-205 reseal? Wanna get one bottle myself.10year old car, all the rubber parts already harden and start cracking d. this is not my car, but just to show the rubbery parts, or bush they call it. all the funny noise and shaky things are due to these rubber parts getting dry, harden and crack. from steering rack, arm joints, engine mounting, crossmember frame bush, suspension struts, belts are all made of rubber. all cars after 10years behave like crap because all the rubber is failing. ![]() link thread here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...770205&hl=at205 Found this selling in 11street but the seller have bad reputation. https://www.11street.my/productdetail/atp-a...bottle-68228830 This post has been edited by abubin: May 2 2019, 10:39 AM |
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QUOTE(abubin @ May 2 2019, 10:39 AM) Bro, can I know where you got thi ATP AT-205 reseal? Wanna get one bottle myself. i bought it from shopee, RM 88, but that thing burst, liquid all leaked out, asked for refund and order another bottle.Found this selling in 11street but the seller have bad reputation. https://www.11street.my/productdetail/atp-a...bottle-68228830 https://shopee.com.my/AT-205-RE-SEAL-i.57919890.1561614731 my suspension squeak sound disappeared 1night after application if your car going to be 6years old better apply lo..... once rubber starts to fail, the repair bill will pile up |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 2 2019, 10:49 AM) i bought it from shopee, RM 88, but that thing burst, liquid all leaked out, asked for refund and order another bottle. Thanks! Getting this. Just wondering if it is sold in Ace Hardware.https://shopee.com.my/AT-205-RE-SEAL-i.57919890.1561614731 my suspension squeak sound disappeared 1night after application if your car going to be 6years old better apply lo..... once rubber starts to fail, the repair bill will pile up |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 2 2019, 11:31 AM) ya already applied on the old car. I am not reali familiar with car's parts.... Perhaps I may give to mechanic to spray for me when i send my car for servicing? just spray it on can d, but need to identify where got those joints my newer car got squeak noise when passing bump after some minor accident, after apply one night tomorrow no noise liao. if wanna change struts at least another 500 bucks. places need to spray is where there's rubber (rubber start failing above 7years) 1. engine mounting (spray some let it absorb then spray again cuz the rubber is very big piece, need to let it soak) 2. arm 3. front suspension struts 4. steering rack cover, 2covers on one side 5. rear wheel suspension sleeve 6. crossmember bush refer to picture below ![]() which liquid btw??? |
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QUOTE(se800i @ May 2 2019, 03:15 PM) I am not reali familiar with car's parts.... Perhaps I may give to mechanic to spray for me when i send my car for servicing? https://shopee.com.my/AT-205-RE-SEAL-i.57919890.1561614731which liquid btw??? AT 205, need to buy your own spray bottle. yes, make sure they spray all rubber parts |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 2 2019, 03:17 PM) https://shopee.com.my/AT-205-RE-SEAL-i.57919890.1561614731 But this is reseal to stop leak, from the looks of it. Apply to the use case you mentioned? My car is 7 and half years already. Replaced absorber, mount and Bush last year, then start squeaking. Haha.AT 205, need to buy your own spray bottle. yes, make sure they spray all rubber parts Want to try this as well Edit:sorry Bro. Didn't check out earlier videos. This post has been edited by cempedaklife: May 3 2019, 06:45 AM |
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ May 3 2019, 06:43 AM) But this is reseal to stop leak, from the looks of it. Apply to the use case you mentioned? My car is 7 and half years already. Replaced absorber, mount and Bush last year, then start squeaking. Haha. Main function is rejuvenate rubber. Actually I found another liquid also rejuvenate rubber just don't know can last for how long.Want to try this as well Edit:sorry Bro. Didn't check out earlier videos. This post has been edited by AllnGap: May 3 2019, 07:00 AM |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 06:52 AM) Main function is rejuvenate rubber. Actually I found another liquid also rejuvenate rubber just don't know can last for how long. Share share.BTW, did you jack up your car to apply. Or just reach out and spray places you can access? This post has been edited by cempedaklife: May 3 2019, 07:27 AM |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 2 2019, 04:17 PM) https://shopee.com.my/AT-205-RE-SEAL-i.57919890.1561614731 Thanks bro..... I will make sure they spray all the rubber.... AT 205, need to buy your own spray bottle. yes, make sure they spray all rubber parts QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 07:52 AM) Main function is rejuvenate rubber. Actually I found another liquid also rejuvenate rubber just don't know can last for how long. This post has been edited by se800i: May 3 2019, 08:35 AM |
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QUOTE(se800i @ May 3 2019, 08:32 AM) i am looking into this also.i've found another product also made for rubber but it's with UV protection, more suitable to be used outside where exposed to sunlight cuz UV can spoil all plastic and rubber material (thats why wipers spoil first) this same product i also wanna apply to maintain my tyre cuz my tyres are 800 per donut so i need quite a lot to maintain my car. found it but shipping is very expensive. RM200 product shipping is about RM 400. 600 bucks for one big tong LOL finding alternatives for shipping at the moment AT205 for rubber parts 303 rubber protectant for exterior rubber (more UV protection) This post has been edited by AllnGap: May 3 2019, 08:39 AM |
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The AT205 is double the price sold here. I wonder if we can bulk order since few of us are getting.
BTW, that AT205 is oil based or water based? Cause Scotty said to add it into water. However, if it is used for sealing engine leaks and poured into engine, wouldn't it cause issue since oil and water doesn't mix? This post has been edited by abubin: May 3 2019, 11:01 AM |
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QUOTE(abubin @ May 3 2019, 10:58 AM) The AT205 is double the price sold here. I wonder if we can bulk order since few of us are getting. i dont mix water but spray direct, thats why one bottle not enough for 2 carsBTW, that AT205 is oil based or water based? Cause Scotty said to add it into water. However, if it is used for sealing engine leaks and poured into engine, wouldn't it cause issue since oil and water doesn't mix? ya price wise is like that, send back airfreight would cost double also. only option is sea, but minimum freight is about RM 1,200. (cant do small quantity also) btw, i'm gonna order 1gallon of 303 UV protectant for my door rubber, tyres and so. need to find ppl to share with. price wise would be half of what shoppee is selling per litre. |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 07:27 AM) i wanna order 4L of it from amazon but shipping is way too expensive. Ha, my friend, you even want to use it on tyres!!wanna apply on my expensive 19" tyres but i'm impressed, you really think deep to take care of your cars apply on tyres to prolong their life, you need to apply on thread surface? |
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@AllnGap, can I know is AT-205 oil based or water based? Better if you can capture the label and post it here. Thanks.
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 11:09 AM) i dont mix water but spray direct, thats why one bottle not enough for 2 cars Where are you locate at?ya price wise is like that, send back airfreight would cost double also. only option is sea, but minimum freight is about RM 1,200. (cant do small quantity also) btw, i'm gonna order 1gallon of 303 UV protectant for my door rubber, tyres and so. need to find ppl to share with. price wise would be half of what shoppee is selling per litre. |
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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ May 3 2019, 11:44 AM) Ha, my friend, you even want to use it on tyres!! My tyre is RM 800 per donut wehhh.....but i'm impressed, you really think deep to take care of your cars apply on tyres to prolong their life, you need to apply on thread surface? Just do research online n see what product works what doesn't. I've seen a video on tyre where they apply 303. A dried rubber will wear so much faster than treated rubber. New tyre after 1.5years will be louder because the rubber already harden. Like those race cars also got ppl apply chemicals on the tyres to soften it so have better grip. If possible apply outside and inside |
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ May 3 2019, 02:38 PM) i'm talking about this ya, 303 UVabout RM 400 per gallon for the big tong. i'm taking half cuz need to use for 3cars plus my tyres. the rest you guys share it then. i gotta drive to SG to pick it up. actually can be used for vinyl and rubber as well ![]() This post has been edited by AllnGap: May 3 2019, 02:46 PM |
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May 3 2019, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ May 3 2019, 02:46 PM) lazada got sell 900ml for RM 119. yep it's expensive.....so dont use it on cheap rubber items like wipersssss im gonna use it for my 3200 bucks tyre set so 100 bucks is worth it https://www.lazada.com.my/products/303-3031...Tlg1da&search=1 This post has been edited by AllnGap: May 3 2019, 02:53 PM |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 02:48 PM) lazada got sell 900ml for RM 119. yep it's expensive.....so dont use it on cheap rubber items like wipersssss wiper of course no la. if use on engine mounting, should be worth while .... or any other parts...im gonna use it for my 3200 bucks tyre set so 100 bucks is worth it https://www.lazada.com.my/products/303-3031...Tlg1da&search=1 |
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ May 3 2019, 02:59 PM) for engine parts i use AT205external ones i use this 303 cuz have UV protection (rejuvenate & protect tyres) ive seen some veterans side AT205, some side 303. both does the same thing i guess, but i think 303 more suitable towards things that are exposed under the sun like tyres, door seals, dashboard. |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 03:04 PM) for engine parts i use AT205 so meaning to say , if my car park under the sun , better use 303 for most of the rubber part ...external ones i use this 303 cuz have UV protection (rejuvenate & protect tyres) ive seen some veterans side AT205, some side 303. both does the same thing i guess, but i think 303 more suitable towards things that are exposed under the sun like tyres, door seals, dashboard. |
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ May 3 2019, 03:18 PM) AT205 dont have UV protection lo. so apply those inner parts303 = external UV coating for rubber parts (tyres, door seal rubber, wipers, even dashboard) This post has been edited by AllnGap: May 3 2019, 03:23 PM |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 03:22 PM) AT205 dont have UV protection lo. so apply those inner parts Means I can get this instead of AT205 for those inner parts? Then no need to get AT205, just use 303 will do?303 = external UV coating for rubber parts (tyres, door seal rubber, wipers, even dashboard) If yes, count me in for a liter. At around RM100 per liter, it's cheaper than AT205. That is unless if you are in SG, can get some AT205 also if it's cheaper..... This post has been edited by abubin: May 3 2019, 03:36 PM |
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QUOTE(abubin @ May 3 2019, 03:32 PM) Means I can get this instead of AT205 for those inner parts? Then no need to get AT205, just use 303 will do? i never use 303 before. ATP did stop my squeaking sound thou.If yes, count me in for a liter. At around RM100 per liter, it's cheaper than AT205. That is unless if you are in SG, can get some AT205 also if it's cheaper..... Scotty use AT205, the other fella use 303 on whole car rubber (even wipers) so i'm quite blur which is better, but since 303 has UV i'd use it externally. |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 03:46 PM) i never use 303 before. ATP did stop my squeaking sound thou. Ok bro, just reserve me a liter of 303. Make sure to create a list of people who are "in" so that are no confusion later. Thanks!Scotty use AT205, the other fella use 303 on whole car rubber (even wipers) so i'm quite blur which is better, but since 303 has UV i'd use it externally. |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 04:33 PM) wow ... count me in ... 1liter /500ml also ok ....but , put on dashboard? is it safe on all type of dashboard material...I just dont want to spoil my city 2014 dashboard ....This post has been edited by ^Ware^wolf: May 3 2019, 04:49 PM |
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ May 3 2019, 05:00 PM) ohh, no need, no need, i havent decided yet, though will definitely use at205 on new lower arms laterQUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 05:06 PM) rm100 seems fair mah, since you travel to buythought you might leave with 1.78l if they take a round figure, 1 liter each good job, you managed to spark some interest here |
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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ May 3 2019, 05:15 PM) ohh, no need, no need, i havent decided yet, though will definitely use at205 on new lower arms later no profit wan leh, i have to sell half cuz cant possibly finish 1 gallon by myself.rm100 seems fair mah, since you travel to buy thought you might leave with 1.78l if they take a round figure, 1 liter each good job, you managed to spark some interest here |
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I am okay with 500ml also. Don't think I need 1000ml. Let's share the rest with others. So 500ml = RM50?
Wait..seems like 303 is only for external. I don't see any video on those using on those internal rubber bushings. I will get AT205 also for internals and 303 for external. Confirm 1/8 gallon (472ml) for me. ------------------------ 3.78541l AllnGap -1/2 gallon - RM200 ware^wolf -1/4 gallon - RM100 abubin - 1/8 gallon - RM50 remaining - 1/8 gallon Rm50 for 1/8 gallon ... Let's bring this section of the talk to the other thread. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4770205 This post has been edited by abubin: May 3 2019, 05:52 PM |
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QUOTE(abubin @ May 3 2019, 05:35 PM) I am okay with 500ml also. Don't think I need 1000ml. Let's share the rest with others. So 500ml = RM50? Guys I bought it d, but the price is 150sgd, about RM 450.Wait..seems like 303 is only for external. I don't see any video on those using on those internal rubber bushings. I will get AT205 also for internals and 303 for external. Confirm 1/8 gallon (472ml) for me. ------------------------ 3.78541l AllnGap -1/2 gallon - RM200 ware^wolf -1/4 gallon - RM100 abubin - 1/8 gallon - RM50 remaining - 1/8 gallon Rm50 for 1/8 gallon ... Let's bring this section of the talk to the other thread. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4770205 So top up a bit ya ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by AllnGap: May 8 2019, 10:52 AM |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 09:38 AM) i am looking into this also. You bought the AT303 already? this is better than AT205?i've found another product also made for rubber but it's with UV protection, more suitable to be used outside where exposed to sunlight cuz UV can spoil all plastic and rubber material (thats why wipers spoil first) this same product i also wanna apply to maintain my tyre cuz my tyres are 800 per donut so i need quite a lot to maintain my car. found it but shipping is very expensive. RM200 product shipping is about RM 400. 600 bucks for one big tong LOL finding alternatives for shipping at the moment AT205 for rubber parts 303 rubber protectant for exterior rubber (more UV protection) QUOTE(abubin @ May 3 2019, 11:58 AM) The AT205 is double the price sold here. I wonder if we can bulk order since few of us are getting. so shall I buy 205 or 303? BTW, that AT205 is oil based or water based? Cause Scotty said to add it into water. However, if it is used for sealing engine leaks and poured into engine, wouldn't it cause issue since oil and water doesn't mix? QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 03:43 PM) i'm talking about this ya, 303 UV can 303 use for windows rubber as well? how about doors rubber?about RM 400 per gallon for the big tong. i'm taking half cuz need to use for 3cars plus my tyres. the rest you guys share it then. i gotta drive to SG to pick it up. actually can be used for vinyl and rubber as well ![]() QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 04:46 PM) i never use 303 before. ATP did stop my squeaking sound thou. where your squeaking sound came from?Scotty use AT205, the other fella use 303 on whole car rubber (even wipers) so i'm quite blur which is better, but since 303 has UV i'd use it externally. |
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QUOTE(se800i @ May 9 2019, 02:35 PM) You bought the AT303 already? this is better than AT205? AT205 i think it's a type of plasticizer that can make rubber swell and moist.so shall I buy 205 or 303? can 303 use for windows rubber as well? how about doors rubber? where your squeaking sound came from? 303 seemed to be a kind of coating. can coat plastics, rubbers as long as it's under the sun ya gonna use 303 for external rubber my squeaking sound from the suspension strut mount. the sound came back, so i think it cracked d, better go replace it. |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 9 2019, 05:20 PM) AT205 i think it's a type of plasticizer that can make rubber swell and moist. You got any good "mechanic to recommend?303 seemed to be a kind of coating. can coat plastics, rubbers as long as it's under the sun ya gonna use 303 for external rubber my squeaking sound from the suspension strut mount. the sound came back, so i think it cracked d, better go replace it. |
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hi guys, anyone have tried rektol oil from lazada? they're discounted and priced very cheap. around 60-70.
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QUOTE(passport8888 @ Jan 20 2019, 01:54 PM) this seller seem like selling fake engine oil as well https://www.hmetro.com.my/utama/2019/05/457...ang-minyak-tipuhttps://www.lazada.com.my/shop/jpc-auto-supply bought 1 from them , the oil quality same like those fake engine oil. try to refund but rejected. ![]() Today news out, suddenly they have no stock, not even one. |
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QUOTE(Acapkangoo @ May 18 2019, 04:14 PM) https://www.hmetro.com.my/utama/2019/05/457...ang-minyak-tipu Same goes to Owl station. left only 6 products listed.![]() Today news out, suddenly they have no stock, not even one. |
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QUOTE(Acapkangoo @ May 18 2019, 04:14 PM) https://www.hmetro.com.my/utama/2019/05/457...ang-minyak-tipu Lol bro.. you purposely create an account just to sabotage this seller? What is your intention? You know I know.![]() Today news out, suddenly they have no stock, not even one. |
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Just got my engine oil from Vanli autoparts, I think KK autoparts also can be trust.
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nak tanya seller liqui moly (Paulhew - shopee) tu jual ori atau fake. haritu i ade beli top tec 4100. yang pelik kenapa packaging dia xde batch no & sticker blkg bila koyak cuma selapis x mcm dlm video dibawah.
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QUOTE(paih_85 @ May 21 2019, 09:49 PM) nak tanya seller liqui moly (Paulhew - shopee) tu jual ori atau fake. haritu i ade beli top tec 4100. yang pelik kenapa packaging dia xde batch no & sticker blkg bila koyak cuma selapis x mcm dlm video dibawah. Bring to Liqui Moly Malaysia, let them check for you. Alternatively, you can visit other shops that sell this product, check their bottle see if got batch number.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG9E4rHJ-8A Good luck . LIQUI MOLY ASIA PACIFIC SDN BHD No. 57-G, Jalan PJU 1A/41B, Pusat Dagangan NZX, Petaling Jaya, Selangor 47301, Malaysia Phone: +603-7887 6393 Working hour: Monday to Friday: 9:00 am - 5:30 pm Saturday, Sunday & Public Holiday: Closed |
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QUOTE(drewandcutascar @ Sep 22 2018, 05:35 PM) As a part shop owner and online seller that deals with engine oil of various brands, allow me to shed some light on the industry. EO sold in supermarkets/hypermarkets are usually direct import stock from EU or sourced out from Petronas Malaysia itself. Do take note that their packaging would differ from what we can purchase from petrol stations or reputable part shops. Here is why: Thanks very much for this. I learned a lot from this! Many do not know that most EO sold in our domestic market are actually packed locally under the authorizations of the respective principles such as BP (Castrol), JXTG (Eneos) or Pennzoil (technically owned by Royal Dutch Shell). There are exceptions where authorized distributors import higher end ranges from mainly Singapore (Mobil 1), Hong Kong (Shell) and or Thailand (Castrol). These products' packaging may vary to what is found in hypermarkets but rest assured they are deemed genuine oil as well. For example, we would never see the same EO lineup between the official Pennzoil USA and Pennzoil Malaysia sites. UMW is the authorized manufacturer & distributor for Pennzoil in Malaysia, refining and packaging are done locally, hence explaining the lack of the Ultra Platinum range in our domestic market. It's usually either due to higher cost or incompatible formulation for various regions. As for Castrol, Mobil and Elf, these brands are being sold in our country through regional distributors: Northern (Perlis Kedah Penang Perak), Central (Selangor N9 Malacca) and Southern (Johor Pahang) etc. To me it is a pain in the ass because a Central regional distributor cannot deal with a Perak retailer/wholesaler due to a "No Cross-border" industry policy, vice versa. In short, these are the few companies holding distributorships of major brands monopolizing their "arranged areas". By this point I'm sure many are spitting and questioning "What about the ones being sold on Lazada, Shopee and other platforms?" The truth is, most distributors prohibit vendors to market their products online apart from their own official channels. Liqui Moly is actually prohibited to be sold online. Castrol distributors take a 'one eye open one eye close' approach. Which all leads us to this uncertain gray area where most online vendors operate. Some sellers in the online market are actually the distributors themselves, some are major authorized dealers like Vanli, some are small fry like myself and some are what we call bad apples of the industry. As per the ongoing scandals on fake oil, the operations are usually more rampant in KL and Klang Valley areas due to high demand and competitive pricing, but this has now affected other parts of Malaysia because some vendors purchase 'cheap' supplies from hot areas and reselling them at a huge price slash. Through a few discussions with my own distributors (based in Ipoh, that puts me in the North), we concluded that the lube industry in Malaysia is a vague, competitive wild wild west in expense of the innocent consumers. It is good that KPDNKK are taking complaints, and actions against the bad apples. As a vendor myself, I do acknowledge the accountability that sellers should hold to buyers - to provide genuine quality at a fair price. Though we all know that is not always the case in this flawed system, I urge that consumers to not cheap out on what they put into their vehicles. It is true that most want the best bang for the buck, but very often this demand pushes for the supply of cheap, low quality shady products which exist in our very surrounding. To ensure your peace of mind, the primary solution is to get services done in your vehicles' respective SC. If the unreasonably high cost is a concern, EO sold in Tesco/Aeon/Giant are definitely legit, do take note that EU formulations and additives might not be the best for our tropical climate but rest assured, they are safe to use. If you have a favorite part/online shop where you frequent, don't feel shy to ask them questions on the product you're buying into, it is your right and their job to enlighten you. IF, the price is too good to be true, it is definitely too good to be true. Shop wisely, carefully but not cheaply! Cheers all This post has been edited by advTech: May 22 2019, 11:46 PM |
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I can't seem to find Owl Station the cheap engine oil seller on Lazada.
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QUOTE(Thrust @ May 23 2019, 06:56 AM) I can't seem to find Owl Station the cheap engine oil seller on Lazada. https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/owl-station/Is he still around or business shutdown after fake engine oil factory got raided? |
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QUOTE(chemistry @ May 22 2019, 12:51 AM) Bring to Liqui Moly Malaysia, let them check for you. Alternatively, you can visit other shops that sell this product, check their bottle see if got batch number. I doubt they will entertain. Because it will backfired at themself..Good luck . LIQUI MOLY ASIA PACIFIC SDN BHD No. 57-G, Jalan PJU 1A/41B, Pusat Dagangan NZX, Petaling Jaya, Selangor 47301, Malaysia Phone: +603-7887 6393 Working hour: Monday to Friday: 9:00 am - 5:30 pm Saturday, Sunday & Public Holiday: Closed Why? Because if tested genuine that means they are forced to admit there are cheap original oil being sold in the market and that means they will lose even more sales. Unless really tested its fake oil lah. I bet they will only say if the oil bought from official channel then it is confirm original, and if u bought from non-official channel they cannot guarantee original. refer here why. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=90349356 |
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QUOTE(Milo_O @ May 23 2019, 10:59 AM) very cheap and stated can SMS code! |
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Giant currently has promo for Shell, Mobil, and Total, as low as 99. Can check it out.
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QUOTE(advTech @ May 27 2019, 09:54 PM) Jusco engine oils as of 27 May. Do notice that some are even 0w-20! Check your car manual for the recommended EO. If it says SAE5W-40 Synthetic, u can use any EO brand as long as it carries the same grade.Want to ask: if the oil says for Nissan or Toyota or Perodua, does it mean it is not suitable for other brands? I have been using different EO brands on my 7 years old car like Mobil, Total, Petronas, Estremo. |
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QUOTE(advTech @ May 27 2019, 09:54 PM) Jusco engine oils as of 27 May. Do notice that some are even 0w-20! 0w20 for Hybrid engine like Prius.. |
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QUOTE(advTech @ May 27 2019, 09:54 PM) Jusco engine oils as of 27 May. Do notice that some are even 0w-20! It's suitable for other brands too.Want to ask: if the oil says for Nissan or Toyota or Perodua, does it mean it is not suitable for other brands? Keyword to see is SN or SM or SL. |
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great info. thanks.
Anyone can report what's on Tesco? siince we already know Giant and Jusco...... |
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QUOTE(se800i @ May 28 2019, 08:36 AM) Recommended, as per book/ from SC, 0w-20 (green bottle). But u can upgrade to 0w-30 (red bottles).The red is recommended for civic type r. Green is for fuel efficiency purpose. Both are fully synthetic oil This post has been edited by ayamxxx: May 28 2019, 09:03 AM |
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bought from Vanli before for my almera EO used in service center. 0w20. Tried it after my warranty finish and the premium price SC charge you for this cooking oil is really a joke. 3 liter rm 100 +. After 1k mileage my car feel lose of power already.
You can feel the engine restored power every time you made EO change but how long it last is what I am concern. After that change to shenzo EO buy from both lzd and shopee since same seller. Yes a bit pricey for 10w30 but then the power restored period is much longer. I also practice early EO change although it mention 10k mileage i usually change around 7-8k and i asked my bro to change because he is a mechanic. Just change again EO last week and although the shenzo oil turn out dark (any kind of oil also will change to dark) but the oil still flow freely, no burn smell. Is already my 3rd time using the oil so far so good. I even use their ATF oil, so far no issue too. For spare part i buy from authorized tan chong shop in lzd/shopee. Example 1 fan belt with labor in SC cost me rm 200 + and i buy the belt online less than 50 plus labor to my bro is not even rm 70, that SC charge me triple for that. Anyway my dad is really against me to buy oil online saying alot fake seller. And last time the notorious castrol fake oil incident in the 90s or 2000s ? too young to remember that but that time really give bad reputation to castrol. btw shenzo is the racing oil they use in sepang for 1 of their race troop and only 1 seller for that and they got their API SN certified so i guess it is good to go for me This post has been edited by darkterror15: May 28 2019, 09:57 AM |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 28 2019, 09:56 AM) bought from Vanli before for my almera EO used in service center. 0w20. Tried it after my warranty finish and the premium price SC charge you for this cooking oil is really a joke. 3 liter rm 100 +. After 1k mileage my car feel lose of power already. Im agreed with your dad, nowadays online EO is too risky. You can feel the engine restored power every time you made EO change but how long it last is what I am concern. After that change to shenzo EO buy from both lzd and shopee since same seller. Yes a bit pricey for 10w30 but then the power restored period is much longer. I also practice early EO change although it mention 10k mileage i usually change around 7-8k and i asked my bro to change because he is a mechanic. Just change again EO last week and although the shenzo oil turn out dark (any kind of oil also will change to dark) but the oil still flow freely, no burn smell. Is already my 3rd time using the oil so far so good. I even use their ATF oil, so far no issue too. For spare part i buy from authorized tan chong shop in lzd/shopee. Example 1 fan belt with labor in SC cost me rm 200 + and i buy the belt online less than 50 plus labor to my bro is not even rm 70, that SC charge me triple for that. Anyway my dad is really against me to buy oil online saying alot fake seller. And last time the notorious castrol fake oil incident in the 90s or 2000s ? too young to remember that but that time really give bad reputation to castrol. btw shenzo is the racing oil they use in sepang for 1 of their race troop and only 1 seller for that and they got their API SN certified so i guess it is good to go for me Settle mine with shell helix 5w40, rm80-90 tesco/giant. Quite ok even after exceed 7k km onwards. Compared to honda 0w-20 from sc, feel the less ok after exceed 5k km onwards every service. Service it for 10k km interval. |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 28 2019, 09:56 AM) bought from Vanli before for my almera EO used in service center. 0w20. Tried it after my warranty finish and the premium price SC charge you for this cooking oil is really a joke. 3 liter rm 100 +. After 1k mileage my car feel lose of power already. can you share the link? and i go to your brother for oil change service You can feel the engine restored power every time you made EO change but how long it last is what I am concern. After that change to shenzo EO buy from both lzd and shopee since same seller. Yes a bit pricey for 10w30 but then the power restored period is much longer. I also practice early EO change although it mention 10k mileage i usually change around 7-8k and i asked my bro to change because he is a mechanic. Just change again EO last week and although the shenzo oil turn out dark (any kind of oil also will change to dark) but the oil still flow freely, no burn smell. Is already my 3rd time using the oil so far so good. I even use their ATF oil, so far no issue too. For spare part i buy from authorized tan chong shop in lzd/shopee. Example 1 fan belt with labor in SC cost me rm 200 + and i buy the belt online less than 50 plus labor to my bro is not even rm 70, that SC charge me triple for that. Anyway my dad is really against me to buy oil online saying alot fake seller. And last time the notorious castrol fake oil incident in the 90s or 2000s ? too young to remember that but that time really give bad reputation to castrol. btw shenzo is the racing oil they use in sepang for 1 of their race troop and only 1 seller for that and they got their API SN certified so i guess it is good to go for me |
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QUOTE(MC_Amig0 @ May 28 2019, 11:27 AM) https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/shenzo-racing-oil/lol, my bro work in melaka so unless you are staying nearby.... |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 28 2019, 09:56 AM) bought from Vanli before for my almera EO used in service center. 0w20. Tried it after my warranty finish and the premium price SC charge you for this cooking oil is really a joke. 3 liter rm 100 +. After 1k mileage my car feel lose of power already. I hv used several bottles of tesco fully syn. 5w40 , 10,000 km the engine power still feels so fresh and powerful, do u believe it? lol.You can feel the engine restored power every time you made EO change but how long it last is what I am concern. After that change to shenzo EO buy from both lzd and shopee since same seller. Yes a bit pricey for 10w30 but then the power restored period is much longer. I also practice early EO change although it mention 10k mileage i usually change around 7-8k and i asked my bro to change because he is a mechanic. Just change again EO last week and although the shenzo oil turn out dark (any kind of oil also will change to dark) but the oil still flow freely, no burn smell. Is already my 3rd time using the oil so far so good. I even use their ATF oil, so far no issue too. For spare part i buy from authorized tan chong shop in lzd/shopee. Example 1 fan belt with labor in SC cost me rm 200 + and i buy the belt online less than 50 plus labor to my bro is not even rm 70, that SC charge me triple for that. Anyway my dad is really against me to buy oil online saying alot fake seller. And last time the notorious castrol fake oil incident in the 90s or 2000s ? too young to remember that but that time really give bad reputation to castrol. btw shenzo is the racing oil they use in sepang for 1 of their race troop and only 1 seller for that and they got their API SN certified so i guess it is good to go for me |
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QUOTE(anakMY @ May 28 2019, 11:30 PM) I hv used several bottles of tesco fully syn. 5w40 , 10,000 km the engine power still feels so fresh and powerful, do u believe it? lol. if the price is cheap and u get the same long lasting power, then hey why not right just stick with the same brand. but tan chong's nissan oil 0w20 is definitely a no no |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 28 2019, 11:42 AM) https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/shenzo-racing-oil/ kajang to melaka, ok lah, 1.5hr drive, then can stop at umbai makan2lol, my bro work in melaka so unless you are staying nearby.... during those days, i stayed at kluang, but i serviced my toyota wish at pj, every single time.. huhu |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 28 2019, 11:42 AM) https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/shenzo-racing-oil/ the shenzo oil price pun boleh tahan...lol, my bro work in melaka so unless you are staying nearby.... |
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never heard of shenzo oil brand
quick google...turn out it's malaysia brand...company in puchong lol and that price...not dare buy anymore |
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QUOTE(Lion Cut @ May 30 2019, 09:23 AM) never heard of shenzo oil brand lol the base oil imported from japanese and repackage here in malaysia la. but for the same money actually u can get mobil 1 from germany i think ? mobil 1 is a tart more expensive than shenzo..quick google...turn out it's malaysia brand...company in puchong lol and that price...not dare buy anymore actually as long as you keep an eye on the mileage and change EO frequently your engine should last long. my dad's cefiro is only using mineral old for 20 years and he always change it 5k or 3 months and 2 oil change only change once oil filter, now mileage 500k + still with the original engine. he also ask me change to mineral oil but then i done some digging on youtube and some ppl tested after the same mileage mineral oil become sticky. so yea just gonna stick with this brand until it fails me i guess? |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 30 2019, 10:05 AM) lol the base oil imported from japanese and repackage here in malaysia la. but for the same money actually u can get mobil 1 from germany i think ? mobil 1 is a tart more expensive than shenzo.. if 2 times only change oil filter meaning the oil i suck out from the engine top instead of removing the filter to remove the oil? can that way completely remove the old oil?actually as long as you keep an eye on the mileage and change EO frequently your engine should last long. my dad's cefiro is only using mineral old for 20 years and he always change it 5k or 3 months and 2 oil change only change once oil filter, now mileage 500k + still with the original engine. he also ask me change to mineral oil but then i done some digging on youtube and some ppl tested after the same mileage mineral oil become sticky. so yea just gonna stick with this brand until it fails me i guess? |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 28 2019, 09:56 AM) bought from Vanli before for my almera EO used in service center. 0w20. Tried it after my warranty finish and the premium price SC charge you for this cooking oil is really a joke. 3 liter rm 100 +. After 1k mileage my car feel lose of power already. where is ur bro shop? got discount for /k ? You can feel the engine restored power every time you made EO change but how long it last is what I am concern. After that change to shenzo EO buy from both lzd and shopee since same seller. Yes a bit pricey for 10w30 but then the power restored period is much longer. I also practice early EO change although it mention 10k mileage i usually change around 7-8k and i asked my bro to change because he is a mechanic. Just change again EO last week and although the shenzo oil turn out dark (any kind of oil also will change to dark) but the oil still flow freely, no burn smell. Is already my 3rd time using the oil so far so good. I even use their ATF oil, so far no issue too. For spare part i buy from authorized tan chong shop in lzd/shopee. Example 1 fan belt with labor in SC cost me rm 200 + and i buy the belt online less than 50 plus labor to my bro is not even rm 70, that SC charge me triple for that. Anyway my dad is really against me to buy oil online saying alot fake seller. And last time the notorious castrol fake oil incident in the 90s or 2000s ? too young to remember that but that time really give bad reputation to castrol. btw shenzo is the racing oil they use in sepang for 1 of their race troop and only 1 seller for that and they got their API SN certified so i guess it is good to go for me |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 30 2019, 11:05 AM) lol the base oil imported from japanese and repackage here in malaysia la. but for the same money actually u can get mobil 1 from germany i think ? mobil 1 is a tart more expensive than shenzo.. Old car normal la use mineral. Modern car not recommended. But I had bad experience using this shenzo oil for my Myvi. Used it for like 2 years. Worst decision ever. Engine felt sluggish. Then when I did overhaul, mech. found lots of carbon and ask me what kind of EO you use. Told them shenzo they laugh their ass off. actually as long as you keep an eye on the mileage and change EO frequently your engine should last long. my dad's cefiro is only using mineral old for 20 years and he always change it 5k or 3 months and 2 oil change only change once oil filter, now mileage 500k + still with the original engine. he also ask me change to mineral oil but then i done some digging on youtube and some ppl tested after the same mileage mineral oil become sticky. so yea just gonna stick with this brand until it fails me i guess? |
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ May 30 2019, 10:15 AM) he work for ppl only plus mechanics work for 5.5 or 6 days, sunday only free to layan friends car. other days in the workshop, if you go service is his boss potong u, is better to know friends who work as mechanics ? because they can inspect your car for free, take spare part cheaper, and labor also cheaper for you. but you pandai pandai belanja them once awhile la.. just this month i pay him to change my stabilizer bush, EO, fan belt. Last year change gearbox oil, drain and fill coolant and spark plug. |
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ May 30 2019, 10:10 AM) if 2 times only change oil filter meaning the oil i suck out from the engine top instead of removing the filter to remove the oil? can that way completely remove the old oil? because oil filter for old folks they will think the recommend mileage is 10k, so twice oil change only change once oil filter |
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QUOTE(romalis51 @ May 30 2019, 11:02 AM) Old car normal la use mineral. Modern car not recommended. But I had bad experience using this shenzo oil for my Myvi. Used it for like 2 years. Worst decision ever. Engine felt sluggish. Then when I did overhaul, mech. found lots of carbon and ask me what kind of EO you use. Told them shenzo they laugh their ass off. old car use thicker old because their parts start to get loose and thicker oil can prevent evaporation or leak of the oil. my bro said got 1 bmw owner bring 2 tong 5w40 shenzo oil to service but the next service change to mobil w50 because the shenzo w40 got burned.. lol probably their engine temperature is too high and burn the oil. The hotter the oil, the thinner it is so they are fine with w50. now for your myvi, probably anything higher than w30 is not so good for your engine. if the oil is too thick the lubrication wont be good. |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 30 2019, 10:05 AM) lol the base oil imported from japanese and repackage here in malaysia la. but for the same money actually u can get mobil 1 from germany i think ? mobil 1 is a tart more expensive than shenzo.. Kek. They just labelled the name Japan oil. Blended locally and packaged here. Name just labelled Japan. Base oil all mostly imported , even for locally blended oil. BUt NOT from JAPAN. actually as long as you keep an eye on the mileage and change EO frequently your engine should last long. my dad's cefiro is only using mineral old for 20 years and he always change it 5k or 3 months and 2 oil change only change once oil filter, now mileage 500k + still with the original engine. he also ask me change to mineral oil but then i done some digging on youtube and some ppl tested after the same mileage mineral oil become sticky. so yea just gonna stick with this brand until it fails me i guess? |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 29 2019, 09:12 AM) if the price is cheap and u get the same long lasting power, then hey why not right just stick with the same brand. but tan chong's nissan oil 0w20 is definitely a no no I believe the booster u mention is car additiives ; for example engine oil additive. Not exactly dont need b ut depends on your car and driving style. Take a case, a stage 3 audi even with a premium imported eo, it cant withstand the heat the engine generated. Need to pour in additives such as eo oil additive etc. |
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 30 2019, 11:57 AM) I believe the booster u mention is car additiives ; for example engine oil additive. Not exactly dont need b ut depends on your car and driving style. Take a case, a stage 3 audi even with a premium imported eo, it cant withstand the heat the engine generated. Need to pour in additives such as eo oil additive etc. a 1.5 104 hp almera certainly dont need booster what, even the engine flush is to con you more money. i stopped going to SC and service with my bro after warranty ends |
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 30 2019, 11:53 AM) Kek. They just labelled the name Japan oil. Blended locally and packaged here. Name just labelled Japan. Base oil all mostly imported , even for locally blended oil. BUt NOT from JAPAN. Probably is true but have no evidence to support that also, they been secretive for a long time. maybe racing enthusiastic know their brand only since they race in sepang carrying the brand. But hey, tested on track is better than tested on lab right ? |
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just buying from pump station eg petronas/shell/caltex. surely it is genuine and original.
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 30 2019, 01:35 PM) a 1.5 104 hp almera certainly dont need booster what, even the engine flush is to con you more money. i stopped going to SC and service with my bro after warranty ends Thats y i say not all need but NOT like wat u said, DONT NEED at all. Normal EO certainly cant stand upgraded cars and some even turbocharged |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 30 2019, 01:39 PM) Probably is true but have no evidence to support that also, they been secretive for a long time. maybe racing enthusiastic know their brand only since they race in sepang carrying the brand. But hey, tested on track is better than tested on lab right ? LOL. Im working in eo line. I know exactly how this local blend company works. Same like Kaito engine oil, blended locally but labelled as fully imported. LOL. BS.In fact, i know most of the base oil supplier and also additive package supplier (In case u duno, eo consist of 90% base oil and 10% additive). All major additive supplier is from western counterparts, 4 big company to be exact, Japan excluded. Ofc also can get additive package from CHina, but this cant get through API. As for tested on track. My company does manufacture local blend oil as well as distribute other major international brands. We also have our own sponsored team using our local blend oil in MSF since few years ago. So.. This post has been edited by Jay Chua CC: May 30 2019, 03:11 PM |
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 30 2019, 03:09 PM) LOL. Im working in eo line. I know exactly how this local blend company works. Same like Kaito engine oil, blended locally but labelled as fully imported. LOL. BS. In fact, i know most of the base oil supplier and also additive package supplier (In case u duno, eo consist of 90% base oil and 10% additive). All major additive supplier is from western counterparts, 4 big company to be exact, Japan excluded. Ofc also can get additive package from CHina, but this cant get through API. As for tested on track. My company does manufacture local blend oil as well as distribute other major international brands. We also have our own sponsored team using our local blend oil in MSF since few years ago. So.. |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 30 2019, 04:52 PM) Since they are certified by API, i dont find anything bad with it as long as each batch is produced according to the formulation they send to API. Just that they lie on the marketing part to trap ppl like u. |
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 30 2019, 04:52 PM) However, a local brand that some laughed at, by the name of Mizu, surprisingly is on the list! |
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QUOTE(scorgio @ May 30 2019, 09:02 PM) I can't find Shenzo on the list of API licensed/certified brand/product. What so great about API? I'm more on ACEA certified & dont care much about API..However, a local brand that some laughed at, by the name of Mizu, surprisingly is on the list! Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(scorgio @ May 30 2019, 09:02 PM) I can't find Shenzo on the list of API licensed/certified brand/product. the license expire every year and according to the guy replying me, they are in the process of applying a new one.However, a local brand that some laughed at, by the name of Mizu, surprisingly is on the list! |
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 30 2019, 05:13 PM) Base oil confirm not from Japan. For API certified formulation, mostly used Petronas and Exxon base oils. Additive company mostly all from american counterparts. Maybe formulation recipe from Japan? IDK. This shenzo confirmed locallly manufacture and play with japan themed. Mostly japan oils using steel bottle instead of plastic too. For example , legit Japan oil is Autobac. so you got better oil recommendation ? in shenzo web is all saying from japan so i drop them an email ask them can prove or not XD. is it confidential ? can they use that reason to reject my request ? since you are working in EO industry you sure have some insider news too right? which is better which is not ? you can even be whistle blower for those scam if you want Since they are certified by API, i dont find anything bad with it as long as each batch is produced according to the formulation they send to API. Just that they lie on the marketing part to trap ppl like u. |
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be careful guys!
KK Auto Moto in Lazada and Shopee sell fake oil. Many buyer have their gearbox kong after used the gearbox oil from them. |
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anyone know authorise dealer shop for HONDA 0W30 fully synthetic oil?
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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Jul 30 2019, 11:49 AM) the honda at CS more hefty though.. any one can share where to get honda genuine 0W30 fully syn oil from local dealer? basically the honda oil is a repacking of Idemitsu engine oil.there are plenty of other good option available in the market than the honda oil. |
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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Aug 1 2019, 09:30 PM) They are one of the 6 or 8 authorized official Honda stockist in Malaysia. Their products are 100% genuine. However, they do sell taiwan made parts but they will inform you first whether you want ori or OEM. |
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Aug 1 2019, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Aug 1 2019, 09:37 PM) They are one of the 6 or 8 authorized official Honda stockist in Malaysia. Their products are 100% genuine. However, they do sell taiwan made parts but they will inform you first whether you want ori or OEM. do you have the company name for other stokist? usually which stokist you go buy your engine oil and oil filter? i saw hingan sell oil filter which is rm27 is quite expensive. i bought around rm16-18 at others |
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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Aug 1 2019, 09:45 PM) do you have the company name for other stokist? usually which stokist you go buy your engine oil and oil filter? I normally visit the spareparts shop near my house. They are called Bay Brothers at section 8 PJ. Although not authorized Honda stockist, they do sell Honda oil and parts.i saw hingan sell oil filter which is rm27 is quite expensive. i bought around rm16-18 at others |
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are Tulen Sakti (previously known as aleo66) on Shopee reliable? they are also selling Honda EO and even showing ori/fake comparison.
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If you wanted cheap engine oil you can buy Mizu engine oil fully synthetic from lazada. Crazy price RM50+ can get fully synthetic already
They have official US API certification. But i never myself bought it. |
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QUOTE(Milo_O @ Aug 2 2019, 10:04 AM) They sell genuine Honda spare parts and also non genuine Honda spare parts. Depend on what u want. then where did you bought your honda engine oil?Cheapest - dont know. QUOTE(rangeseven @ Aug 2 2019, 02:24 PM) If you wanted cheap engine oil you can buy Mizu engine oil fully synthetic from lazada. Crazy price RM50+ can get fully synthetic already no thanks.. i prefer authentic product hahaha... later whole car engine gone case.They have official US API certification. But i never myself bought it. |
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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Aug 2 2019, 02:46 PM) then where did you bought your honda engine oil? Depending on convenience.no thanks.. i prefer authentic product hahaha... later whole car engine gone case. I am working in PJ so if there is any offer for Castrol engine oil, i would grab it. Recently bought 2 bottle of Castrol for RM180 from AEON Big Subang Jaya If i am nearby Pudu, i will go to Hingan. |
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Aug 30 2019, 10:33 PM
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Tesco engine oil how?
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Aug 30 2019, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(seikoho1 @ Aug 30 2019, 10:33 PM) No problem.I had tested Total 10W40,Shell Helix Ultra 5W40,Mobil 1 0W40 etc all good from Tesco . This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 30 2019, 11:22 PM |
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Just bought n tested Mobil 1 5w30 from seller vanli. B4 proceed change oil, i hv asked my regular mechanic to verify if the oil is normal or not.
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Aug 31 2019, 12:35 AM
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Sep 19 2019, 03:11 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 26 2019, 10:01 AM) Not fake as i encounter, bought a few from Lazada and shopee and tried it myself. https://shopee.com.my/product/19534140/1382383007?smtt=0.0.9Mat Motor - Lazada DCS motor - Lazada Paul Hew - Shopee (So far cheapest i ever found) So far didn't encounter any counterfeit Liqui Moly product, their product is quite hard to counterfeit, for MOS it will be dark grey in colour, for molygen it will be green in colour So can i buy from him? This is original? |
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 30 2019, 11:20 PM) I'm still supporting shell helix ultra from Giant value for money ! |
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The scary thing about fake engine oil is that you don't know if it is fake after using it. Unless you test it or compare it with original then you will be clueless. You will continue to use until one day your engine cannot take it anymore.
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Sep 19 2019, 02:23 PM
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normally i bought from vanli (lazada) and paulhew (shopee).. paulhew not sure ori or not, but this seller got high rating and positive feedback...
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Sep 19 2019, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(shuyina @ Sep 19 2019, 03:11 AM) https://shopee.com.my/product/19534140/1382383007?smtt=0.0.9 I personally won't doubt the oil genuinity .So can i buy from him? This is original? |
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Sep 19 2019, 06:59 PM
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Oct 4 2019, 01:37 PM
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Shopee Seller Name : paulhew Lazada Seller Name : ECAS i compare product buy at Petronas Gas Station ,the color look so different,1 look dark dirty and smelly,from gas station look clear and clean no smell. (you guy can buy 1 liter from gas station and compare with it ). (original or fake you guy decide).100%fake for me. make in (EU) product just a scammer tactic. (just buy 1 liter at gas station to compare product you buy at online, you will know the different) Attached thumbnail(s) Dan2373 liked this post
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Oct 5 2019, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 4 2019, 01:37 PM) Shopee Seller Name : paulhew What the...serious?Lazada Seller Name : ECAS i compare product buy at Petronas Gas Station ,the color look so different,1 look dark dirty and smelly,from gas station look clear and clean no smell. (you guy can buy 1 liter from gas station and compare with it ). (original or fake you guy decide).100%fake for me. make in (EU) product just a scammer tactic. (just buy 1 liter at gas station to compare product you buy at online, you will know the different) I bought 3 botol from him..syntium 3000 fr..so called euro spec |
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Brought 1 bottle of Syntium 3000 E from the said seller in lazada, it did has burnt smell. Tell tale sign that trigger me to investigate is the bottle seemed to be overfilled, i.e more content than normal around 100 to 200 ml (thru see thru indicator at side of bottle). Brought another bottle from other seller, also Euro spec same vicosity and no burnt smell and content level is normal.
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QUOTE(Zaire.Ver @ Oct 5 2019, 06:31 PM) trust me is 100% fake , you go petronas station buy 1 liter bottle to compare you will know the different. or you want try use oil on your car, can check your oil very fast black color and not smooth after 5k km .....(really have euro petronas engine oil but they all a sticker to detect real or not.) but this guy 100% sell fake no sticker |
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QUOTE(mot88 @ Oct 5 2019, 06:56 PM) Brought 1 bottle of Syntium 3000 E from the said seller in lazada, it did has burnt smell. Tell tale sign that trigger me to investigate is the bottle seemed to be overfilled, i.e more content than normal around 100 to 200 ml (thru see thru indicator at side of bottle). Brought another bottle from other seller, also Euro spec same vicosity and no burnt smell and content level is normal. check the oil color , original yellow clear , fake one look dark , just buy 1 liter at petronas to compare more easy, 1 liter you also can use la... |
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this shyt seller still active selling until today? must have earned a lot dirty money.
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a lot of fake liqui moly oil in lazada too...
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Suggest take vanli store if it online purchase
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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 4 2019, 01:37 PM) Shopee Seller Name : paulhew cibai , I also bought from this guy , same syntium 800Lazada Seller Name : ECAS i compare product buy at Petronas Gas Station ,the color look so different,1 look dark dirty and smelly,from gas station look clear and clean no smell. (you guy can buy 1 liter from gas station and compare with it ). (original or fake you guy decide).100%fake for me. make in (EU) product just a scammer tactic. (just buy 1 liter at gas station to compare product you buy at online, you will know the different) This post has been edited by rcracer: Oct 8 2019, 01:04 PM |
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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 4 2019, 01:37 PM) Shopee Seller Name : paulhew Really sakit hati when this happens! sigh...greedy...unethical sellers! Thanks for highlighting Lazada Seller Name : ECAS i compare product buy at Petronas Gas Station ,the color look so different,1 look dark dirty and smelly,from gas station look clear and clean no smell. (you guy can buy 1 liter from gas station and compare with it ). (original or fake you guy decide).100%fake for me. make in (EU) product just a scammer tactic. (just buy 1 liter at gas station to compare product you buy at online, you will know the different) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « BTW, did you report to lazada or return the goods? |
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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 4 2019, 01:37 PM) Shopee Seller Name : paulhew bought from him too but not petronas product, buy castrolLazada Seller Name : ECAS i compare product buy at Petronas Gas Station ,the color look so different,1 look dark dirty and smelly,from gas station look clear and clean no smell. (you guy can buy 1 liter from gas station and compare with it ). (original or fake you guy decide).100%fake for me. make in (EU) product just a scammer tactic. (just buy 1 liter at gas station to compare product you buy at online, you will know the different) nvr got black oil like u 2 cars use, i think 4 units aldy so maybe depends on luck now got other shopee seller cheaper so long time no buy from him aldy This post has been edited by sitescope: Oct 8 2019, 03:01 PM |
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Oct 8 2019, 03:00 PM) bought from him too but not petronas product, buy castrol just business tactics laa.. mixed in some ori oil.. get some good review.. later on average back with fake one... still earn nvr got black oil like u 2 cars use, i think 4 units aldy so maybe depends on luck now got other shopee seller cheaper so long time no buy from him aldy |
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Oct 8 2019, 01:10 PM) Really sakit hati when this happens! sigh...greedy...unethical sellers! Thanks for highlighting i doubt lazada will take any action laa...there's a lot of fake spark plugs, light bulb etc thereBTW, did you report to lazada or return the goods? even logitech wireless mouse also got fake one |
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 8 2019, 01:02 PM) The packaging already different.One should be local and the other should be Europe. Local uses fresh lubricant oil. In Europe most oils (>50%) are re-refined or recycled because of regulations there to be more environmentally friendly. That's why they look darker and have some smell. The re-refined oils still have a specification to meet so it should be OK. Both should be genuine oil so don't worry. |
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QUOTE(ckseong80 @ Oct 8 2019, 04:09 PM) The packaging already different. maybe malaysian-made europe spec... One should be local and the other should be Europe. Local uses fresh lubricant oil. In Europe most oils (>50%) are re-refined or recycled because of regulations there to be more environmentally friendly. That's why they look darker and have some smell. The re-refined oils still have a specification to meet so it should be OK. Both should be genuine oil so don't worry. |
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well.. lazada is only a platform... as long as u are not selling illegal stuff like drugs.. they dont care
they dont guarantee original products right ? so... buy at ur own risk |
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Oct 8 2019, 04:24 PM) well.. lazada is only a platform... as long as u are not selling illegal stuff like drugs.. they dont care Basically, things in Lazadamall is better quality because the vendors have been verified. I think their products also have gone through checking from Lazada. However, I don't think it can be 100% as products and be added or removed anytime by vendor.they dont guarantee original products right ? so... buy at ur own risk |
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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 4 2019, 01:37 PM) Shopee Seller Name : paulhew Darn it! I also bought from this seller after getting so many recommendation from other users that this guy is selling genuine product. Now I scared to use this in my car!Lazada Seller Name : ECAS i compare product buy at Petronas Gas Station ,the color look so different,1 look dark dirty and smelly,from gas station look clear and clean no smell. (you guy can buy 1 liter from gas station and compare with it ). (original or fake you guy decide).100%fake for me. make in (EU) product just a scammer tactic. (just buy 1 liter at gas station to compare product you buy at online, you will know the different) |
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Oct 9 2019, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 9 2019, 04:05 PM) Does he means his products are sourced from Vanli Auto? If yes then most probably it is genuine cause Vanli auto is a big group and they will be shooting themselves in the leg if they sell fake products. Do the explanation are true?Mean malaysia spec do differ in colour vs says europe. Or it just a fake/recycle oil? |
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Hi All,
Probably i should share this with you guys. See picture below comparing Castrol Malaysia and Europe that I bought from Tesco in Paradigm mall. What do you guys think? I think this is not about the seller selling fake oil, which I don't think so it's fake probably just certified recycled oil, but more towards where the oil was made. I read somewhere that EU has regulation that require most of its EO to be recycled. That could explain why the color is darker compare to local EO. As for Paulhew, I have asked Van-li through Shopee chat box and they are partners/joint venture. Refer to attached screen captured. So do tell me what can you conclude from here? Those who want to be safe, simple, don't buy EU made EO. Just buy those EO made for Japanese car like Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsui sell by Van-li and Paulhew. See if the color is the same as the EO that you can buy from the official SC. Do report back here the findings. I was told Nissan EO (fully synthetic) sell by Paulhew is genuine and has the same color as the official SC. Let me know what's your thought on this This post has been edited by CoffeeMiloTea: Oct 9 2019, 11:47 PM Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
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Oct 10 2019, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(CoffeeMiloTea @ Oct 9 2019, 11:45 PM) Hi All, hoho, now dive deeper there's also no proof/verification process guarantee those hypermarket oil are genuine imported. if they direct import by themselves then still can control, how if they sourced from 3rd party (middleman from europe or local)? i still remember previously my hypermarket engine oil actually have the sticker stating imported by a local spare part shop name (somewhere from PJ, i googled and found it's a small spare part shop), can't remember from shell helix ultra or castrol magnatec i purchased from hypermarket.Probably i should share this with you guys. See picture below comparing Castrol Malaysia and Europe that I bought from Tesco in Paradigm mall. What do you guys think? I think this is not about the seller selling fake oil, which I don't think so it's fake probably just certified recycled oil, but more towards where the oil was made. I read somewhere that EU has regulation that require most of its EO to be recycled. That could explain why the color is darker compare to local EO. As for Paulhew, I have asked Van-li through Shopee chat box and they are partners/joint venture. Refer to attached screen captured. So do tell me what can you conclude from here? Those who want to be safe, simple, don't buy EU made EO. Just buy those EO made for Japanese car like Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsui sell by Van-li and Paulhew. See if the color is the same as the EO that you can buy from the official SC. Do report back here the findings. I was told Nissan EO (fully synthetic) sell by Paulhew is genuine and has the same color as the official SC. Let me know what's your thought on this |
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 10 2019, 12:13 AM) hoho, now dive deeper there's also no proof/verification process guarantee those hypermarket oil are genuine imported. if they direct import by themselves then still can control, how if they sourced from 3rd party (middleman from europe or local)? i still remember previously my hypermarket engine oil actually have the sticker stating imported by a local spare part shop name (somewhere from PJ, i googled and found it's a small spare part shop), can't remember from shell helix ultra or castrol magnatec i purchased from hypermarket. Kawan if those oil are fake wouldn't the authority takes action especially those who sell genuine oil? Why till now for so many years no action taken? No data that say the EO are actually fake. All just play guessing. Besides are recycled oil fake oil if done right and follow the European standard? No one can proof or disproof it. All hearsay and look at color only and that justify your statement of fake oil being used. Come on la dude. Still, with all that said EU EO is not going to be in my prefer list. Hahahahaha. This post has been edited by CoffeeMiloTea: Oct 10 2019, 12:53 AM |
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QUOTE(ckseong80 @ Oct 8 2019, 04:09 PM) The packaging already different. I think we have to give benefit of the doubt.One should be local and the other should be Europe. Local uses fresh lubricant oil. In Europe most oils (>50%) are re-refined or recycled because of regulations there to be more environmentally friendly. That's why they look darker and have some smell. The re-refined oils still have a specification to meet so it should be OK. Both should be genuine oil so don't worry. checking these videos , even if not exact same oil, to my eyes definitely looks darker , and these are 2 year old videos , in fact 5000 looks the darkest , so if 800 is even darker probably means it has more synthetic in the blend This post has been edited by rcracer: Oct 10 2019, 06:34 AM |
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 10 2019, 06:24 AM) I think we have to give benefit of the doubt. You're right. 5W30 looks slightly darker. I paused all 3 videos and compared the color. Understood that 5W30 should be slightly worse in protecting the metal wear from 5W40 but what I didn't know is that 10W40 perform comparably with 5W30. You may be right also in saying that darker could have more synthetic blend in it but still all these are just based on what we think and not fact with data. One thing is true though is that hypermarket most likely will not sell fake oil. I have asked all 3 i.e. Giant, Jusco and Tesco how they ensure the EO is genuine through FB messenger and of course their response is quite generic where they talk about quality control is very stringent blah blah blah. But I still think they will personally verify the credibility of the seller before actually allowing them to put stock into their stores. The sellers, even though they may think of ways to make huge profit I believe they won't daringly put so call all local recycled oil into the shelves. With so many users commented that they used hypermarket EO for so many damn years without any issue I think it is still safe to buy. The catch is change EO when it's about time (6 months) or reach the certain mileage (SS at 7k, FS at 10k). To be much safer then just buy EO made for Japanese car lo from reputable seller like Vanli and Paulhew. Afterall it's just oil only mah. I'm going with the latter approach checking these videos , even if not exact same oil, to my eyes definitely looks darker , and these are 2 year old videos , in fact 5000 looks the darkest , so if 800 is even darker probably means it has more synthetic in the blend This post has been edited by CoffeeMiloTea: Oct 10 2019, 08:41 AM |
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 10 2019, 12:13 AM) hoho, now dive deeper there's also no proof/verification process guarantee those hypermarket oil are genuine imported. if they direct import by themselves then still can control, how if they sourced from 3rd party (middleman from europe or local)? i still remember previously my hypermarket engine oil actually have the sticker stating imported by a local spare part shop name (somewhere from PJ, i googled and found it's a small spare part shop), can't remember from shell helix ultra or castrol magnatec i purchased from hypermarket. If tesco/ giant indeed sell fake shell helix oil, shell malaysia, kpdnkk can come and take some action. Same goes to few online lazada shoppe eo seller, kpdnkk come surprise visit n kantoi those fake oil seller. I have bought shell helix tesco since 2012 until now. No problems whatsoever. Just this time only take risk buy mobil 1 from vanli. As i need 5L bottles pack. |
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Oct 10 2019, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2019, 08:42 AM) If tesco/ giant indeed sell fake shell helix oil, shell malaysia, kpdnkk can come and take some action. Same goes to few online lazada shoppe eo seller, kpdnkk come surprise visit n kantoi those fake oil seller. Exactly.I have bought shell helix tesco since 2012 until now. No problems whatsoever. Just this time only take risk buy mobil 1 from vanli. As i need 5L bottles pack. IMHO, the demonstrated Petronas oil is NOT fake not that I financially benefited from this seller one paulhew. |
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So until now still no solid proof its fake oil?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2019, 08:42 AM) If tesco/ giant indeed sell fake shell helix oil, shell malaysia, kpdnkk can come and take some action. Same goes to few online lazada shoppe eo seller, kpdnkk come surprise visit n kantoi those fake oil seller. Agreed. Im pretty sure of the manufacturer really 100% confirm these supermarket/online sellers are selling fake oil they will report to kpdnkk and they will take actions.I have bought shell helix tesco since 2012 until now. No problems whatsoever. Just this time only take risk buy mobil 1 from vanli. As i need 5L bottles pack. |
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QUOTE(CoffeeMiloTea @ Oct 9 2019, 11:45 PM) Hi All, Castrol Malaysia is from Paulhew and Castrol European is from Tesco? Didn't Paulhew said his oil is imported from EU? Tesco's EO are imported from EU also, right?Probably i should share this with you guys. See picture below comparing Castrol Malaysia and Europe that I bought from Tesco in Paradigm mall. What do you guys think? I think this is not about the seller selling fake oil, which I don't think so it's fake probably just certified recycled oil, but more towards where the oil was made. I read somewhere that EU has regulation that require most of its EO to be recycled. That could explain why the color is darker compare to local EO. As for Paulhew, I have asked Van-li through Shopee chat box and they are partners/joint venture. Refer to attached screen captured. So do tell me what can you conclude from here? Those who want to be safe, simple, don't buy EU made EO. Just buy those EO made for Japanese car like Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsui sell by Van-li and Paulhew. See if the color is the same as the EO that you can buy from the official SC. Do report back here the findings. I was told Nissan EO (fully synthetic) sell by Paulhew is genuine and has the same color as the official SC. Let me know what's your thought on this This post has been edited by abubin: Oct 10 2019, 10:17 AM |
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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 10 2019, 10:17 AM) Castrol Malaysia is from Paulhew and Castrol European is from Tesco? Didn't Paulhew said his oil is imported from EU? Tesco's EO are imported from EU also, right? I personally bought and I believe I have made it clear. Why is it still not clear to you? It's either you don't believe which entirely up to you or just believe it.This post has been edited by CoffeeMiloTea: Oct 10 2019, 10:28 AM |
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one thing to ask, is the Lexus Fully Synthetic sold online are related to Lexus Car brand?
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QUOTE(Abai @ Oct 10 2019, 11:05 AM) But the Shell Malaysia actually advised to purchase on its official store on Lazada? Official store confirm ori, but price also is market price but cheap price.Bestter go to Offline retail stores include Shell fuel stations nationwide and |
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QUOTE(Abai @ Oct 10 2019, 11:05 AM) But the Shell Malaysia actually advised to purchase on its official store on Lazada? That's purely marketing to mislead and create fears among some users, unfortunately not a tint of technical facts .Bestter go to Offline retail stores include Shell fuel stations nationwide and Shell Malaysia has not officially stated Euro spec'ed Shell Oils (all categories) imported from EU by local importers (specifically paulhew) are fakes, let alone issue verbal non-legal threats to all local parties involved or a legal letter as a challenge, never mind Shell Malaysia (or for that matter, Petronas Malaysia) has not obtained a court jugdement naming the fake-selling traders or importers. I'm not denying some fakes may be around, but the specific sample sold by paulhew and published above ? Hey, nobody is stopping you (or Shell Malaysia, Petronas Malaysia) from sending above published oil samples sold by paulhew and convict this seller in any court of law!....... and place a link here . |
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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 10 2019, 11:46 AM) That's purely marketing to mislead and create fears among some users, unfortunately not a tint of technical facts . If im paulhew i will bring sample to go tested and make all the kiasi buyers stfuShell Malaysia has not officially stated Euro spec'ed Shell Oils (all categories) imported from EU by local importers (specifically paulhew) are fakes, let alone issue verbal non-legal threats to all local parties involved or a legal letter as a challenge, never mind Shell Malaysia (or for that matter, Petronas Malaysia) has not obtained a court jugdement naming the fake-selling traders or importers. I'm not denying some fakes may be around, but the specific sample sold by paulhew and published above ? Hey, nobody is stopping you (or Shell Malaysia, Petronas Malaysia) from sending above published oil samples sold by paulhew and convict this seller in any court of law!....... and place a link here . |
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QUOTE(CoffeeMiloTea @ Oct 9 2019, 11:45 PM) Hi All, The formulation is not exactly the same for different regions. Depending on the additive/dye ratio, the colour can be different.Probably i should share this with you guys. See picture below comparing Castrol Malaysia and Europe that I bought from Tesco in Paradigm mall. What do you guys think? I think this is not about the seller selling fake oil, which I don't think so it's fake probably just certified recycled oil, but more towards where the oil was made. I read somewhere that EU has regulation that require most of its EO to be recycled. That could explain why the color is darker compare to local EO. As for Paulhew, I have asked Van-li through Shopee chat box and they are partners/joint venture. Refer to attached screen captured. So do tell me what can you conclude from here? Those who want to be safe, simple, don't buy EU made EO. Just buy those EO made for Japanese car like Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsui sell by Van-li and Paulhew. See if the color is the same as the EO that you can buy from the official SC. Do report back here the findings. I was told Nissan EO (fully synthetic) sell by Paulhew is genuine and has the same color as the official SC. Let me know what's your thought on this Further, it is a blended product from a likely continuous process. Not likely to be 100% same for every batch. It is chemistry, got an acceptable range of variation. QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 10 2019, 11:51 AM) How to ascertain that what he selling and what he tested is the same thing? Can easily use a genuine one to test and still sell fake oil.I'm not putting paulhew down, i bought oils from this seller before. Real or not, i really don't know, but i trust their integrity and my car still drives normally after using oils purchased from them. If you're so scared that you might accidentally purchased fake oil, my advise is to not buy big volume brand names/product range. Instead, go for less known brands that are known locally (eg, mannol, ravenol, royal purple, torco, etc) or less known product range of common brands (mobil1 esp, mobil1 ep, formula shell fully synthetic, helix ultra ect, magnatec start/stop, castrol edge extended performance, etc) |
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anyone interested to organise a crowdfunding and we send some sample from shopee/lazada and one from original authorized petrol station, then we no need to guess guess !!
http://autoworld.com.my/forum/index.php?/t...is-in-malaysia/ i also bought one EO oil, and found that the packaging label is totally fking different ... it even come with hologram seal. But nowadays, hologram can be counterfeited Genuine: https://careta.my/sites/default/files/2019-..._152810673.jpeg Potential not Genuine or Recycled Refined Oil: jus search inside shopee/lazada for PETRONAS Syntium 3000 5W30 SN-PLUS |
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Oct 13 2019, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(cfc @ Oct 13 2019, 12:43 PM) anyone interested to organise a crowdfunding and we send some sample from shopee/lazada and one from original authorized petrol station, then we no need to guess guess !! Dont bother. Im 1000% sure its original otherwise Shell Malaysia d long time sue Giant and Tesco.http://autoworld.com.my/forum/index.php?/t...is-in-malaysia/ i also bought one EO oil, and found that the packaging label is totally fking different ... it even come with hologram seal. But nowadays, hologram can be counterfeited Genuine: https://careta.my/sites/default/files/2019-..._152810673.jpeg Potential not Genuine or Recycled Refined Oil: jus search inside shopee/lazada for PETRONAS Syntium 3000 5W30 SN-PLUS Afaik Shell Malaysia NEVER claim its not original but they can only advise public to buy from official reseller to guarantee original. Kiasi ppl should just avoid so leave more stocks for non-kiasi ppl so the price wont go up due to less demand |
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I just bought the Honda SN0W30 fully synthetic oil from a famous spare parts shop. The packaging looks as if it was fake as circulated from forums and FB.
However, I do have the left over of some oil from the previous oil change which I bought from authorized Honda stockist. After comparing both oil visually on card board, the smell, the color, the viscosity and others.. They are virtually the same thing. I totally can't differentiate them. Thus, I assume it is the original stuff. Sometimes, I wonder whether those packaging which people says it is fake is true or not. Packaging, printing etc might change if they change the printing supplier. |
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 13 2019, 12:52 PM) Dont bother. Im 1000% sure its original otherwise Shell Malaysia d long time sue Giant and Tesco. i don mean tesco, giant, & AEON those hypermarketAfaik Shell Malaysia NEVER claim its not original but they can only advise public to buy from official reseller to guarantee original. Kiasi ppl should just avoid so leave more stocks for non-kiasi ppl so the price wont go up due to less demand mainly to the big distributor in shopee & lazada that claims 100% original authentic |
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Oct 13 2019, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 13 2019, 01:00 PM) I just bought the Honda SN0W30 fully synthetic oil from a famous spare parts shop. The packaging looks as if it was fake as circulated from forums and FB. Isn't the honda eo is idemitsu eo? Just a rebranding etc.However, I do have the left over of some oil from the previous oil change which I bought from authorized Honda stockist. After comparing both oil visually on card board, the smell, the color, the viscosity and others.. They are virtually the same thing. I totally can't differentiate them. Thus, I assume it is the original stuff. Sometimes, I wonder whether those packaging which people says it is fake is true or not. Packaging, printing etc might change if they change the printing supplier. |
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WTF... I just ordered 2 bottles of this EO from Shopee, cos I thought it was original with so many 5 star reviews..
https://shopee.com.my/Shell-Helix-HX5-15W-4...8304.2108346853 Is this fake?? Damn scared already after reading all the post here, fking regret buying because of the cheap price. This post has been edited by ghostcommand: Oct 14 2019, 03:40 AM |
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QUOTE(cfc @ Oct 13 2019, 12:43 PM) anyone interested to organise a crowdfunding and we send some sample from shopee/lazada and one from original authorized petrol station, then we no need to guess guess !! I don't mind chipping in RM30 for this. Get 10 people to chip in and we could perhaps negotiate to get 2 tests done.http://autoworld.com.my/forum/index.php?/t...is-in-malaysia/ i also bought one EO oil, and found that the packaging label is totally fking different ... it even come with hologram seal. But nowadays, hologram can be counterfeited Genuine: https://careta.my/sites/default/files/2019-..._152810673.jpeg Potential not Genuine or Recycled Refined Oil: jus search inside shopee/lazada for PETRONAS Syntium 3000 5W30 SN-PLUS |
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if you think about it , what exactly are counterfeiters after ?
max profit , lowest cost , minimum attention applying that logic , I don't think any counterfeiters would be too bothered to large scale fake big brand name oils , it just attracts too much attention from everybody , like here in this forum. Logistically to make and print labelling for all the fake oils is also going to attract attention also. And selling for 100 90 bucks really is it that much profit margin at all for the hassle of hush money etc. Better they just sell in big no brand drums to the hundred of workshops that do budget servicing and pump from the drum even fakers themselves would see lazada as easier work, just take stock from one supplier and pass through why bother about any thing else ? |
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wow, have some few professional analysis it say recycled oil but it still ORIGINAL ....very good... brand petronal+shell+ castrol or what ever... we mix it and recycled it and it become original for any brand ....because all in one ...ORIGINAL
Seller should tell people the oil they sell are (Brand new and original.) NEW but is recycled OK? next time come to my coffee shop, i make a coffee using my pee because i already drink coffee and filtered with my body...and recycled and is fresh and is free |
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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 17 2019, 02:11 PM) Recycled, reprocessed and reblended is the responsible way. Nothing wrong with that if done properly. Western countries with stricter environmental regulations do that.QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 17 2019, 02:11 PM) next time come to my coffee shop, i make a coffee using my pee because i already drink coffee and filtered with my body...and recycled and is fresh and is free in singapore, this is happening daily and by the millions actually using their NewWater industrial scale RO process. Dare to buy drinks from singapore anymore??!! I do, some more, sometimes i drink directly from the tap because i kedekut to spend money buy drinks. Langsung tak pernah lao sai doing that. |
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rcracer are you a shopee or lazada seller??
why you keep emphasize the oil is original in this post and other post? https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4710279/all |
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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 17 2019, 02:47 PM) rcracer are you a shopee or lazada seller?? I believe its original oil as well.why you keep emphasize the oil is original in this post and other post? https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4710279/all Like i mentioned, Giant/Tesco is rich but im pretty sure they wont be stupid or risk selling fake oil and get sued by manufacturer. Otherwise manufacturer already long time sue them d lah. |
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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 17 2019, 02:47 PM) rcracer are you a shopee or lazada seller?? because good thing give fair review why you keep emphasize the oil is original in this post and other post? https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4710279/all if they decide not worth to do business , you happier to buy at retail pricing ? |
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Anyone bought Shell Helix Ultra 5W30 from 88 Auto Garage? Is their oil genuine? The packaging of the engine oil is different from usual one.
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ZPIsW My car manual advises to use 10W-30, can I use 5W-30 instead? |
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QUOTE(Jack234 @ Oct 17 2019, 09:31 PM) Anyone bought Shell Helix Ultra 5W30 from 88 Auto Garage? Is their oil genuine? The packaging of the engine oil is different from usual one. Interesting...made in Hong Kong but Thailand words.https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ZPIsW My car manual advises to use 10W-30, can I use 5W-30 instead? No idea genuine or not. Maybe new packaging? However i would rather buy from Tesco/Giant can get as low as RM89 |
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Oct 17 2019, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 17 2019, 10:12 PM) Interesting...made in Hong Kong but Thailand words. I've never seen the name of the seller in LYN, so ask here if anyone bought from them. No idea genuine or not. Maybe new packaging? However i would rather buy from Tesco/Giant can get as low as RM89 Tesco is selling Shell Helix Ultra 5W-30? I thought only the usual 5W-40. First time buying engine oil now since my car warranty ended. QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 17 2019, 10:33 PM) All right, thank you. |
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Hi Guys, beware of this seller E&B selling counterfeit Shell products. The shop name has brought to my attention because I remembered I used to purchase a engine oil brand 'Eco Greenland' until I saw the news paper this was the seller manufacture fake engine oil News:
[URL=News: https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/www.hmetro....node/457007/amp]Metro[/URL]https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/www.hmetro.com.my/node/457007/amp The manufacturer produced fake engine oil using recycle oil according to the news and yesterday I see E&B up and run again. Lazada E&B https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5Vhx66.md.jpg News: https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/www.hmetro....node/457007/amp https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhHIq.md.jpg https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhZkI.md.jpg https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhUBZ.md.jpg Dan2373 liked this post
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QUOTE(Amirul_8410111 @ Oct 18 2019, 07:07 AM) Hi Guys, beware of this seller E&B selling counterfeit Shell products. The shop name has brought to my attention because I remembered I used to purchase a engine oil brand 'Eco Greenland' until I saw the news paper this was the seller manufacture fake engine oil News: Sorry, where does it says in the news articles the seller is Eco Greenland?[URL=News: https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/www.hmetro....node/457007/amp]Metro[/URL]https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/www.hmetro.com.my/node/457007/amp The manufacturer produced fake engine oil using recycle oil according to the news and yesterday I see E&B up and run again. Lazada E&B <a href='https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5Vhx66.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5Vhx66.md.jpg </a> News: https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/www.hmetro....node/457007/amp <a href='https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhHIq.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhHIq.md.jpg </a> <a href='https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhZkI.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhZkI.md.jpg </a> <a href='https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhUBZ.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhUBZ.md.jpg </a> Edit: You match the pictures of Eco Greenland on both? This post has been edited by abubin: Oct 18 2019, 11:14 AM |
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QUOTE(diversity @ Jan 21 2020, 05:05 PM) its an underdog brand.yeah, no API cert but i dont mind. Rektol Official Website https://www.rektol.de/en/products/passenger-car-motor-oils/ |
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Hi all,
Any one know VSS auto trading? R they selling genuine oil? Looking at Honda power steering fluid. |
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hi, anyone know who is the distributor of castrol engine oil to aftermarket sparepart shop?
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Anyone can beat this price for Shell Original Full Synthetic?
https://shopee.com.my/SHELL-HELIX-ULTRA-5W-...6902.2809701671 |
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 28 2020, 01:13 AM) Anyone can beat this price for Shell Original Full Synthetic? Heck, that's cheap already plus it has lots of valid original photos. I think it's cheap, if you want it now, Giant has a promo until March RM99 per 4l bottle.https://shopee.com.my/SHELL-HELIX-ULTRA-5W-...6902.2809701671 |
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QUOTE(LemonKnight @ Feb 28 2020, 07:27 PM) Heck, that's cheap already plus it has lots of valid original photos. I think it's cheap, if you want it now, Giant has a promo until March RM99 per 4l bottle. No dealing/experience with Shopee seller .I would personally rather get from 'proven' Giant or any other hypermarkets . |
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Mar 15 2020, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 28 2020, 01:13 AM) Anyone can beat this price for Shell Original Full Synthetic? Bought from the seller also. QR code is valid but FC seems to drop.https://shopee.com.my/SHELL-HELIX-ULTRA-5W-...6902.2809701671 This post has been edited by tanalvis: Mar 16 2020, 02:06 PM |
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Mar 17 2020, 12:39 PM
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Mar 17 2020, 12:52 PM
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cheap thing no good, good thing no cheap
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Mar 18 2020, 10:39 AM
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Still need further monitoring before commenting further. Cz change brand as previously using pennzoil.
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May 20 2020, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(Jimmacai @ May 20 2020, 02:30 PM) FAKE FAKE FAKE Why need to create new account ?FAKE HONDA ENGINE OIL FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!!! you can find pictures how to differentiate them from outside in some of the other sellers. like the cap, the honda logo, the batch barcode behind. generally 90~110 range is fake. genuine selling 130~140 to be sure you just need to open the bottle and smell and see the color. 1. LAZADA (SYN OIL & FILTER) https://www.lazada.com.my/products/honda-fu...s322692889.html 2. SHOPEE (TRIPLEGUARD AKA EDMUND LIM, KEPONG) https://shopee.com.my/Honda-Genuine-Fully-S...7411.2213252506 Interesting accusation could you provide the photo how to differentiate? Honda logo looks OK to me...batch barcode definitely different if made by different manufacturer. Smell and colour also different between different manufacturers. |
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May 20 2020, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(Jimmacai @ May 20 2020, 06:50 PM) Well that's just like calling fresh water patin is fake because salt water patin is the real one.Anyway i dont use this oil. I get my Shell Helix Ultra from from Giant/Tesco and yes ppl are calling those fake just because its much cheaper than Shell station selling. |
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May 20 2020, 10:36 PM
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Baseless accusations without a shred of supporting evidence jeapordising and sobotaging government-registered businesses should be condemned by all , including the above posts .
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May 20 2020, 10:38 PM
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4,061 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
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May 20 2020, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ May 20 2020, 10:36 PM) Baseless accusations without a shred of supporting evidence jeapordising and sobotaging government-registered businesses should be condemned by all , including the above posts . You mean me or Jimmacai?QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 20 2020, 10:38 PM) Dont think so because he says both of the sellers are selling fake oil. |
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May 20 2020, 11:33 PM
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May 20 2020, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ May 20 2020, 11:33 PM) Not sure if i had..All i can say is different manufacturer produce the same product with slight different result such as different colour, smell, taste and etc. There are no way to find out unless bring it to a certified lab to get tested. |
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May 21 2020, 10:07 AM
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Thanks for the evidence/facts provided thus far to support an argument .
This shall form the basis for elaboration from any other readers here who are keen to contribute or share further opinions or experiences on the issue at hand . This post has been edited by zeng: May 21 2020, 10:08 AM |
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May 21 2020, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(Jimmacai @ May 21 2020, 09:35 AM) alright as a responsible netizen i will put up some evidence. Hmmm quite a good comparison but im still not convinced because without solid proof from legit labs.this is a PSA from me after having spent my money to learn hard lesson, even used 1 in my car before i realize. why i don't go call up and fuck those sellers? come on la we know this fake oil business run by gangster or ah long. you want my life to be fucked up over a bottle of engine oil? left is original from honda, right is fake from these fuckers. both PACKAGED AS IDEMITSU VIETNAM SO NOT A FACTOR HERE YA from the picture alone you can see the color difference. smell different also. i did an experiment of the fluid viscosity myself too, and it's clear the fake one will come to rest very fast as it just doesn't has the 0w20 properties of this oil. the original 0w20 feels like no resistance at all with any excitation. ![]() Anyway im not saying those are original, nor fake. Just decide on your own whether to take the risks or not. As for me im still continuing using Shell Helix Ultra from Tesco/Giant because i believe they wont dare to risk getting sued selling fake oil. QUOTE(zeng @ May 21 2020, 10:07 AM) |
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May 21 2020, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ May 21 2020, 10:14 AM) Hmmm quite a good comparison but im still not convinced because without solid proof from legit labs. I remember last time conversation that different regions engine oil had slightly darker colour vs our region. And we jump to conclusions that darker oil is fake. Anyway im not saying those are original, nor fake. Just decide on your own whether to take the risks or not. As for me im still continuing using Shell Helix Ultra from Tesco/Giant because i believe they wont dare to risk getting sued selling fake oil. Agreed with your point, lab analysis is the way to determine. Not to backup fake oil or undermine the fake oil problem in our market, just that a proper test is way we should look at |
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May 21 2020, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 21 2020, 10:57 AM) I remember last time conversation that different regions engine oil had slightly darker colour vs our region. And we jump to conclusions that darker oil is fake. Yeap its possible different region may varies.Agreed with your point, lab analysis is the way to determine. Not to backup fake oil or undermine the fake oil problem in our market, just that a proper test is way we should look at But he said he personally tested that 2 oil is from the same region..but has different viscosity during physical testing This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: May 21 2020, 11:05 AM |
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May 21 2020, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ May 20 2020, 11:38 PM) Not sure if i had.. You are right partially. Different additive package have different colour/smell. Different manufacturer uses different additive package/formula for their oil. And that honda may have different manufacturers blending oem oil for them.All i can say is different manufacturer produce the same product with slight different result such as different colour, smell, taste and etc. There are no way to find out unless bring it to a certified lab to get tested. Btw the difference in colour/smell is quite big and not slight for each different additive package. |
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May 21 2020, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 21 2020, 11:19 AM) You are right partially. Different additive package have different colour/smell. Different manufacturer uses different additive package/formula for their oil. And that honda may have different manufacturers blending oem oil for them. Sorry do you mean different manufacturer as like for different brand of oil ?Btw the difference in colour/smell is quite big and not slight for each different additive package. I'm talking about same brand same model |
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May 21 2020, 12:17 PM
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May 21 2020, 02:29 PM
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IMO, buy from reputable spareparts shop / shopping mall..
change oil regularly if you love your car, fully synthetic 7k interval or 3 months.. you wanna buy cheap and you want the oil as good and smell/taste the same like the original one? doesnt work like this bro. one mech told me that whatever the oil is, as long as it doesnt slime after few km's it will be ok, just like cooking oil. |
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May 30 2020, 02:44 PM
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