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abubin
post Apr 26 2019, 11:33 AM

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What about coolant? Are there any fakes? How to find out fake and real?

Price difference is so much....
https://shopee.com.my/TCL-LONG-LIFE-COOLANT...6858.1491189135

https://shopee.com.my/(MADE-IN-JAPAN)-TCL-R...7756.1433913138

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post Apr 29 2019, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Apr 29 2019, 01:45 PM)
Yes I know they not willing. Lol
I'd rather pay them higher workmanship than to get chopped via parts because u won't know what they put in
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What's the standard price now to get EO change from workshops? I heard some say RM15 and some say RM30.
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post May 2 2019, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 1 2019, 03:25 PM)
gf old saga BLM steering fluid just leaked out, luckily spotted it before damaging whole rack.
10year old car, all the rubber parts already harden and start cracking d.
this is not my car, but just to show the rubbery parts, or bush they call it. all the funny noise and shaky things are due to these rubber parts getting dry, harden and crack. from steering rack, arm joints, engine mounting, crossmember frame bush, suspension struts, belts are all made of rubber.
all cars after 10years behave like crap because all the rubber is failing.

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link thread here
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...770205&hl=at205



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Bro, can I know where you got thi ATP AT-205 reseal? Wanna get one bottle myself.

Found this selling in 11street but the seller have bad reputation.
https://www.11street.my/productdetail/atp-a...bottle-68228830

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post May 2 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 2 2019, 10:49 AM)
i bought it from shopee, RM 88, but that thing burst, liquid all leaked out, asked for refund and order another bottle.
https://shopee.com.my/AT-205-RE-SEAL-i.57919890.1561614731

my suspension squeak sound disappeared 1night after application brows.gif  brows.gif
if your car going to be 6years old better apply lo.....

once rubber starts to fail, the repair bill will pile up
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Thanks! Getting this. Just wondering if it is sold in Ace Hardware.
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post May 3 2019, 10:58 AM

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The AT205 is double the price sold here. I wonder if we can bulk order since few of us are getting.

BTW, that AT205 is oil based or water based? Cause Scotty said to add it into water. However, if it is used for sealing engine leaks and poured into engine, wouldn't it cause issue since oil and water doesn't mix?

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post May 3 2019, 11:59 AM

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@AllnGap, can I know is AT-205 oil based or water based? Better if you can capture the label and post it here. Thanks.
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post May 3 2019, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 03:22 PM)
AT205 dont have UV protection lo. so apply those inner parts

303 = external UV coating for rubber parts (tyres, door seal rubber, wipers, even dashboard)
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Means I can get this instead of AT205 for those inner parts? Then no need to get AT205, just use 303 will do?

If yes, count me in for a liter. At around RM100 per liter, it's cheaper than AT205. That is unless if you are in SG, can get some AT205 also if it's cheaper..... rclxms.gif

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post May 3 2019, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 3 2019, 03:46 PM)
i never use 303 before. ATP did stop my squeaking sound thou.

Scotty use AT205, the other fella use 303 on whole car rubber (even wipers)
so i'm quite blur which is better, but since 303 has UV i'd use it externally.
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Ok bro, just reserve me a liter of 303. Make sure to create a list of people who are "in" so that are no confusion later. Thanks!
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post May 3 2019, 05:35 PM

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I am okay with 500ml also. Don't think I need 1000ml. Let's share the rest with others. So 500ml = RM50?

Wait..seems like 303 is only for external. I don't see any video on those using on those internal rubber bushings.

I will get AT205 also for internals and 303 for external.

Confirm 1/8 gallon (472ml) for me.


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3.78541l

AllnGap -1/2 gallon - RM200
ware^wolf -1/4 gallon - RM100
abubin - 1/8 gallon - RM50
remaining - 1/8 gallon

Rm50 for 1/8 gallon ...

Let's bring this section of the talk to the other thread.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4770205

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post May 8 2019, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 8 2019, 10:49 AM)
Guys I bought it d, but the price is 150sgd, about RM 450.
So top up a bit ya

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post Sep 19 2019, 09:37 AM

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The scary thing about fake engine oil is that you don't know if it is fake after using it. Unless you test it or compare it with original then you will be clueless. You will continue to use until one day your engine cannot take it anymore.
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post Oct 9 2019, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Oct 8 2019, 04:24 PM)
well.. lazada is only a platform... as long as u are not selling illegal stuff like drugs.. they dont care

they dont guarantee original products right ?

so... buy at ur own risk smile.gif
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Basically, things in Lazadamall is better quality because the vendors have been verified. I think their products also have gone through checking from Lazada. However, I don't think it can be 100% as products and be added or removed anytime by vendor.
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post Oct 9 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 4 2019, 01:37 PM)
Shopee Seller Name : paulhew

Lazada  Seller Name : ECAS

i compare product buy at Petronas Gas Station ,the color look so different,1 look dark dirty and smelly,from gas station look clear and clean no smell. (you guy can buy 1 liter from gas station and compare with it ). (original or fake you guy decide).100%fake for me.
make in (EU) product just a scammer tactic. (just buy 1 liter at gas station to compare product you buy at online, you will know the different)
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Darn it! I also bought from this seller after getting so many recommendation from other users that this guy is selling genuine product. Now I scared to use this in my car!
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post Oct 9 2019, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 8 2019, 04:07 PM)
Really?
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Does he means his products are sourced from Vanli Auto? If yes then most probably it is genuine cause Vanli auto is a big group and they will be shooting themselves in the leg if they sell fake products.
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post Oct 10 2019, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeMiloTea @ Oct 9 2019, 11:45 PM)
Hi All,

Probably i should share this with you guys. See picture below comparing Castrol Malaysia and Europe that I bought from Tesco in Paradigm mall. What do you guys think? I think this is not about the seller selling fake oil, which I don't think so it's fake probably just certified recycled oil, but more towards where the oil was made. I read somewhere that EU has regulation that require most of its EO to be recycled. That could explain why the color is darker compare to local EO.

As for Paulhew, I have asked Van-li through Shopee chat box and they are partners/joint venture. Refer to attached screen captured. So do tell me what can you conclude from here?

Those who want to be safe, simple, don't buy EU made EO. Just buy those EO made for Japanese car like Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsui sell by Van-li and Paulhew. See if the color is the same as the EO that you can buy from the official SC. Do report back here the findings. I was told Nissan EO (fully synthetic) sell by Paulhew is genuine and has the same color as the official SC.  

Let me know what's your thought on this  biggrin.gif
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Castrol Malaysia is from Paulhew and Castrol European is from Tesco? Didn't Paulhew said his oil is imported from EU? Tesco's EO are imported from EU also, right?

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post Oct 15 2019, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(cfc @ Oct 13 2019, 12:43 PM)
anyone interested to organise a crowdfunding and we send some sample from shopee/lazada and one from original authorized petrol station, then we no need to guess guess !!
http://autoworld.com.my/forum/index.php?/t...is-in-malaysia/

i also bought one EO oil, and found that the packaging label is totally fking different ... it even come with hologram seal. But nowadays, hologram can be counterfeited

Genuine:
https://careta.my/sites/default/files/2019-..._152810673.jpeg

Potential not Genuine or Recycled Refined Oil:
jus search inside shopee/lazada for PETRONAS Syntium 3000 5W30 SN-PLUS
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I don't mind chipping in RM30 for this. Get 10 people to chip in and we could perhaps negotiate to get 2 tests done.
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post Oct 18 2019, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Amirul_8410111 @ Oct 18 2019, 07:07 AM)
Hi Guys, beware of this seller E&B selling counterfeit Shell products. The shop name has brought to my attention because I remembered I used to purchase a engine oil brand 'Eco Greenland' until I saw the news paper this was the seller manufacture fake engine oil News:
[URL=News: https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/www.hmetro....node/457007/amp]Metro[/URL]https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/www.hmetro.com.my/node/457007/amp
The manufacturer produced fake engine oil using recycle oil according to the news and yesterday I see E&B up and run again.
Lazada E&B
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5Vhx66.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5Vhx66.md.jpg </a>
News: https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/www.hmetro....node/457007/amp
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhHIq.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhHIq.md.jpg </a>
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhZkI.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhZkI.md.jpg </a>
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhUBZ.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2019/10/18/5VhUBZ.md.jpg </a>
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Sorry, where does it says in the news articles the seller is Eco Greenland?

Edit: You match the pictures of Eco Greenland on both?

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post Jul 3 2020, 06:02 PM

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I bought from Paulhew before. It seems like legit engine oil. I don't know how to differentiate but so far my car is still running fine. Lots of people seems to trust this seller and I would trust him too. It is stupid to build your business based on selling legit oil. If found out he is selling fake, his whole business is gone.

If you are afraid of the fakes which is rampant especially on brands like shell, petronas, mobil and so on. Use lesser known brands. There are 101 new brands cropping up since after MCO.

New brands:
Silverhawk
novobest
vrooam
bold
futez
dyno-tab
hardex dexel
fukuoka
feoso
ezlube
engineo lube

Few veteran known local brands but mostly local made
vtag
mizu
kaito
tokyodrift
morrison
sumo

Heck, even Eco Land is back...the kilang that got caught for manufacturing fake engine oil.

With so many oils, haha...no need to stick to those brands with fakes.

I am currently using mizu and it's running fine on my car but the amount I drive is too little to really tell.

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post Sep 1 2020, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 30 2020, 08:35 PM)
Generally local businesses here adopts and practises cordial and friendly business etiquete with their own customers by not competing for the same market in similar region/online etc .

Good ethics on the part of Hua Hong here .
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Well, Hua Hong is a supplier. Generally suppliers are not allowed to sell directly to end users. It is in the supplier contract terms. So what most suppliers does is setup another company to sell direct to end users. I am not surprised if Hua Hong does that.
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post Sep 9 2020, 10:35 AM

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Two questions:
1) anyone using bosch premium x7? Is it good considering the price to be quite affordable.
2) The retail price is like 200+ for this oil. However, online official Bosch is selling at RM99 (currently under 9.9 discount). But found this seller at RM66.20 only!! That is so much cheaper. Could it be fake? I mean Bosch oil is considered new player in the market and not even popular. What are the chances of it being fake?

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