Anyone knows the price of spare parts? Some are warrantied 60k km only ....18 months for my driving.

Most commonly the comparison is between (heavy) C segment SUV with (lighter) B segment sedan. Of course a 1.7 ton beast uses more fuel compare to the much lighter 1.2/1.3 ton sedan. Add in the start-stop city traffic (aka Klang Valley traffic jam), the FC of that 1.7 ton beast is logically high. Not surprised to see up to 14L/100km (or higher) consumption in our type of congestion traffic.

I admit that the CRV has better FC due to it being 100kg lighter & that CVT gearbox. But even then, the real life FC is still worse than B segment sedan.

X70 would be on the higher side of norm for C segment SUV due to the heavy engine (still uses cast iron block) & less efficient 6 speed gear box (Vs the newer Geely/Volvo 7DCT). The coming (2021??) newer 1.5TGDI + 7 DCT will be lighter & more fuel efficient too due to the newer engine & more efficient gear box. But even then, I still believe it can't beat the 1.2/1.3 ton B segment sedan in FC.

Theres already a comparison video between CRV, X70 and Subaru something in paultan, the difference in FC between crv and x70 is only 1 litre. I think if you can afford to buy a 130K car, fc is not a problem.

I think the B segment comparison is irrelevant here. But anyhow good info for those who need it.

My main point is to discuss about the FC of X70, as I have been seeing people talk a lot about it having bad FC and you brought up a good comparison with CRV.

Another point to make is that one should not always assume that FC discussion is always about whether one can afford to pay for the fuel.

Nice point out. Because natural of suv, I think even 1.5t with dct can't beat b segment sedan on fc part

Yep. Logic thinking.
People can afford won't stop drive it when fuel up 5sen...

Just can't logic that why ppl keep comparing b segment to suv. Of course different fuel consumption

This post has been edited by sonicmaster: Feb 19 2019, 04:30 PM

don't be surprised, sometimes I encounter friends ask me to compare toyota Vios and Perodua Myvi.

sometimes people comparing within their budget, some people comparing within the size.

Even same engine but different body will affect a lot in FC.

Mass, driver behavior, acceleration, how many passengers, tyre size, tyre air, bodykit, engine tuning and etc.

Even if you can direct compare the SUV, the result ain't right for different variables too.

Nothing wrong with comparing different segments... I even compare my CX-5 to Honda City and find their FC comparable

I wouldn't consider paultan a good comparison as they never mentioned how they test their FC (I wouldn't even consider them as professional automotive reviewers, more like a mixture of humours, advertisement and casual test).

A more reliable source would be real fuel consumption app like fuelly.com or "small bear" app which the china people use.

A quick look into "small bear" app, filtered by (compact suv, transmission = auto, engine type = all)

Average from all owners:
Place no 7: CRV 1.5 turbo = 8.24L/100km (1910 users)
Place no 34: Subaru XV 2.0 4wd = 8.77L/100km (78 users)
Place no 125: Boyue 1.8TD = 10.84L/100km (4095 users)

If this app is reliable, difference between CRV and x70 is likely around 2.6L/100km.

Just a rough calculation to share:
Assuming one drives 24k km per year (Malaysian average driver per year, 2013), assuming fuel price RON95 RM2.2/L (RON95 max price)
X70 will need to spend 624L more fuel than CRV, which equals to RM1373/year.

However, of course you have saved at least ~RM30k already with x70.
BTW, I am not a X70 owner, but just trying to give some data to clear some arguements here.

https://www.xiaoxiongyouhao.com/page_rank_c.../2016/2/qy.html

This post has been edited by l2k: Feb 19 2019, 05:03 PM

Surely cross segment or cross type compare nothing wrong on it.
But still there will be people will make some non sense conclusion like: why I gonna get x70/hrv/forester(same price range) when vois I can get two...

you only have a butt how to sit 2 carS? so is a poor comparison

Yea. That just an example. And eventually one or two people tell me that. (can for family mah)
But we here have no super fans boy like paultan comment section. So less people make butthurt conclusion.

Mostly people afford the car sure afford the fuel. But if it efficiency enough + low maintenance. So there can save money for other stuff.

Good cars comes with their consequences. Luxury comfort comes with huge maintenance. Cheap and good fuel consumption comes with cheap maintenance but drawback will be smaller in size and safety comprises.

Depends on what you want for you and your family, judgement of good cars are vary from person to person.

Just by visual, X70 is already bigger, taller and wider, which any sane individual could tell its gonna consume petrol, and to compare to Aruz, BRV and HRV is abit silly to be honest. Its a fact big cars consume more - the new Innova. X trail, CX-5, pg 5008, these are not noted for light consumption. And in any case, if O2 sensor fail, the fuel consumption is going to give you a heart attack.

According to paul tan site, these are the extras that rm14k upgrade gets you..the premium..

Tyre pressure monitior

Adds on:

Exterior

19-inch alloy wheels with 225/55 profile tyres
Panoramic sunroof

Interior

Black Nappa leather multi-function steering wheel
Remote open/close all windows and sunroof
Electronic power windows with anti-trap for all windows
Brown Nappa leather seats and upholstery
Eight-way powered front driver’s seat (with lumbar support), four-way powered front passenger seat (with additional shoulder switches)
Additional voice command functionality for the infotainment system
Nine speakers (with amplifier and subwoofer)

Safety

Advanced Driver Assistance System (ADAS)
Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB)
Forward Collision Warning (FCW)
Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)
Lane Departure Warning (LDW)
Blind Spot Information System (BLIS)
Door Opening Warning System (DOW)
Intelligent High Beam Control (HBC)
Four front parking sensors

This post has been edited by Twins10: Feb 19 2019, 08:07 PM

What is the price difference between the 19, 18 and 17 inch tyres based on popular brands from premium such as Michelin. Continental to mid range brands such as Hankook.

The RM600 for 19 inch tyres is from which brand

Also any idea what is the ride height of the X70.

Is it higher or lower than the Aruz at 230 mm


This post has been edited by cfa28: Feb 19 2019, 11:19 PM

Maybe its cost saving but i like the black plastic cover with netting behind the front seat. Prevent dirty feet from spoiling the back of the front seat. Wish it had more storage though. Dont know whatbthe flat black plastic is called.

This post has been edited by Twins10: Feb 19 2019, 10:06 PM

from fb, do you get a sense that ready stocks are more available

slower take up rate maybe?

Fair allocation problem for dealer or branch, some area rich ppl dont buy proton, low demanding 😂 some area high demand but allocation not enuf..