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 LYN Proton X70 SUV Owners and Fans Thread V1!, It's in the Drive... Siram Siram!

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josh5671
post Feb 15 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Feb 15 2019, 10:56 AM)
Yup,just alot of new owner tot the 5 years is cover all. Usually manufacture doesnt indicate clearly.
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More to first time car owner.
Because wear and tear non ever included in any product warranty. Ex: phone, furniture....
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post Feb 15 2019, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(austinjklim @ Feb 15 2019, 02:08 PM)
Was wondering are the speakers on the Executive variant any good? Or anyone knows the brand for said speakers. I do know that Premium comes with Kenwood speakers with subwoofer.
Wanting to get the Executive or Premium model, but 14k for that Premium variant doesn't really justify its value for me.
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Me have same feeling between executive and premium.

But mcm like the nappa leather and 8speaker +subwoofer system. Sunroof, 19inch rim non needed....

But can't pick...
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post Feb 15 2019, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Feb 15 2019, 03:03 PM)
Actually they do, just that most people now lazy to read it...same like owner manual, how many actually go through that 'dictionary'?  whistling.gif
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With no offensive.
I think mostly thinking like that's was too naive.
Even the phone (hundard to thousands) not covered wear and tear... How the car. 10k-100k cover wear and tear lol
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post Feb 15 2019, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 15 2019, 03:04 PM)
for this kind central computer car, it is better don mess with their electronics. installing speaker is not as simple.. okay it is simple to take out old speaker and installed new speaker but when u install third party speaker, ur HU definitely not enuf power to power those speaker and u need amp.. then how u hook the amp? unless the HU got amp like normal HU which most of the car doesnt, u get some trouble. another way is to use digital processor but it will add extra cost.
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I agree too.
My almera still didt touch speaker. Only hardwire a dashcam.

That's what wonder me..... More hard to pick now lol
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post Feb 15 2019, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(austinjklim @ Feb 15 2019, 03:25 PM)
True. But i think for today's standard most HU should be good enough powering a low end component system such as JBL Club 6500C. I personally like the tweeters of it. But forking out extra 14k for Kenwood and nappa leather, not to mention getting a disadvantage of 19" rims is questionable.

Tomorrow gonna head out the proton open house to test drive lol. Hopefully i'll have more time to try out the executive speakers.
Once you change the HU and component speakers, you day day also smile. smile.gif
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I have tested executive... But no time test speaker. Long queue
Good car. But Fc unknown.....

No la... Me low budget. Still using stock player....
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post Feb 16 2019, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Feb 16 2019, 09:56 AM)
WhatI you know
Nappa leather with adjustable seats rm5k
19 inch wheels rm5k
Sunroof rm5k
Adas rm5k.  ??

What you may not notice
Nappa leather steering
Tyre pressure sensor
Door opening warning
Auto dim lights
Adaptive cruise control
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Thanks to point out. Actually I Don know there have Tyre pressure too....

Cruise control on premium different with executive?
Auto dim light = auto adjust headlight?
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(austinjklim @ Feb 16 2019, 11:34 PM)
yeahh you're right. Tbh, the extra features are just an extra, but it depends from person to person.

Does the executive come with cruise control? Like the basic one found on many other vehicles. Did tried out the speakers on the Executive. They are okay in my opinion, just that the clarity isn't really there.

But you could tweak the EQ on it, should be almost perfect decent for anyone.
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executive did came with cruise control. but i not sure what its different from premium variant...
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post Feb 17 2019, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(chrisseow @ Feb 17 2019, 07:20 PM)
you can forget about testing if you are not serious in purchasing because a lot of showroom want to collect booking fees and loan documents only they allow you to test drive.

why? because proton hq doesnt provide any test drive units to any showroom while the directors from authorized dealer have to purchase one for themselves.
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yep..my local proton get only executive as test drive.
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post Feb 19 2019, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Feb 19 2019, 03:08 PM)
FC is the main concern for those who are coming from B Segment (Vios City etc). Those that already research before buying SUV already know the higher fuel consumption of SUV, so high FC is a non issue. They can afford it.

What this segment (those coming from B Segment) should really worry about is the maintenance cost. As I wrote earlier, the 19" tyres aren't cheap (RM600 per piece), yearly spark plugs replacement (RM112), coolant (RM119) & ATF (RM500) at 60,000 (3rd year) service. Wait till they see the price of shock absorber, suspension mounting, lower arm, brake pads ... All these gotta carry a 1.7 tons SUV.
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Agreed. Most people I nthis thread worry about FC then the maintenance cost. I can foresee their eyes will drop to floor after hand on the bill.

Me driving b segment almera currently. Not sure change X70 or not.....
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post Feb 19 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(selinix @ Feb 19 2019, 03:38 PM)
Not sure if i understand you correctly, you are saying that all SUV in general has high FC? Is x70 FC normal / high compare to the other SUVs in the market?
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Yes and no for the first question.
He mean to compare c segment suv to b segment sedan FC.
If sedan compare suv. It more to its weight and engine/transmission effectiency will react to FC. But suv normally weight more. So it high Fc normally.

Second. Yep. X70 overall abit higher then other same class suv. Due to extra few hundards kg and less efficient engine.

(I talk about overall don't quote me something special efficient c segment suv)

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post Feb 19 2019, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Feb 19 2019, 03:57 PM)
Most commonly the comparison is between (heavy) C segment SUV with (lighter) B segment sedan. Of course a 1.7 ton beast uses more fuel compare to the much lighter 1.2/1.3 ton sedan. Add in the start-stop city traffic (aka Klang Valley traffic jam), the FC of that 1.7 ton beast is logically high. Not surprised to see up to 14L/100km (or higher) consumption in our type of congestion traffic.

I admit that the CRV has better FC due to it being 100kg lighter & that CVT gearbox. But even then, the real life FC is still worse than B segment sedan.

X70 would be on the higher side of norm for C segment SUV due to the heavy engine (still uses cast iron block) & less efficient 6 speed gear box (Vs the newer Geely/Volvo 7DCT). The coming (2021??) newer 1.5TGDI + 7 DCT will be lighter & more fuel efficient too due to the newer engine & more efficient gear box. But even then, I still believe it can't beat the 1.2/1.3 ton B segment sedan in FC.
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Nice point out. Because natural of suv, I think even 1.5t with dct can't beat b segment sedan on fc part
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post Feb 19 2019, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Feb 19 2019, 04:06 PM)
Theres already a comparison video between CRV, X70 and Subaru something in paultan, the difference in FC between crv and x70 is only 1 litre. I think if you can afford to buy a 130K car, fc is not a problem.
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Yep. Logic thinking.
People can afford won't stop drive it when fuel up 5sen...
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post Feb 19 2019, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Feb 19 2019, 04:45 PM)
Nothing wrong with comparing different segments... I even compare my CX-5 to Honda City and find their FC comparable
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Surely cross segment or cross type compare nothing wrong on it.
But still there will be people will make some non sense conclusion like: why I gonna get x70/hrv/forester(same price range) when vois I can get two...


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post Feb 19 2019, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(chrisseow @ Feb 19 2019, 05:13 PM)
you only have a butt how to sit 2 carS? so is a poor comparison
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Yea. That just an example. And eventually one or two people tell me that. (can for family mah)
But we here have no super fans boy like paultan comment section. So less people make butthurt conclusion.

Mostly people afford the car sure afford the fuel. But if it efficiency enough + low maintenance. So there can save money for other stuff.
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post Feb 25 2019, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(swn525 @ Feb 25 2019, 10:38 AM)
wonder if CKD, the price will remain or drop
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I more believe it will stay. Otherwise other brand need to revise their price.. Or otherwise all other brand same class suv will hurt sales.
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post Mar 1 2019, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Mar 1 2019, 02:33 PM)
Looks like true case & Proton acknowledge the incident. Wait for official report before make judgement.
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Crosscheck with post above linked to China site.
This either hit something or real leak.
According to China site. Fuel tank was pop down a bit so it easy to hit.

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post Mar 1 2019, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(chrisseow @ Mar 1 2019, 03:06 PM)
Campro already history long ago, now is VVT engine. Much better fuel consumption and performance for current Proton Model.

And of course don't compare to Perodua and Proton. Apple and Pear?

Comparing previous Saga Campro engine and current VVT engine. You'll have a clearer picture of it.

And also for Proton until today still adsorbing SST, which is very good for all buyers. I can see a future in proton as the market share increasing.
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Aiyo. There still a lot people playing the meme on proton power window..... People who Dont know about it will thinking proton can't fix power window.

Eventually power window was long ago....
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post Mar 5 2019, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Mar 4 2019, 11:30 PM)
After the first service , my F.C. has slight improve
First time three bars even after slight exceeding 400km full tank
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hmm..please do calculation for non-owner / future owner reference. tq tongue.gif
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post Mar 5 2019, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Mar 5 2019, 08:24 AM)
After the X70 is CKD I really hope that the local proton management will listen to feedbacks and make some changes to the premiums spec such as

Using just 18 inch tyres.  This is the best compromise between comfort and handling and looks as 19 inch is overkill

Remove the sunroof or make it optional add on

Jusy taking out the above 2 could easily shave off at least 5k to 8k in price and make the x70 premium even more attractive to buy and own for long term
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I think geely/proton intended to make it overkill for current pricing. So X70 will pop out of spec if doing comparison on paper, on spec, or real compare.

IF they have plan premium 4wd on top premium. So they can trim down spec and make it on 4wd..but problem still there, people who buy premium 4wd will wish having that trim down too......

That's my 2cent...
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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Mar 5 2019, 03:10 PM)
Even my awd doesn’t come with blind spot indicator and adaptive cruise control
These two features more important then Nappa and sunroof which are more like cosmetic display
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LOL.. Nappa tagged as cosmetic... Sunroof I agree.
Did you really sit nappa seat before?

And awd was executive. Same spec like 2wd executive only awd.

Edit:
For me nappa has no cosmetic feature as it orange brown color not really match x70 interior

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