Hi , anyone migrated to Australia before? Just wondering how much is the cost and the process take how long ya?

Depends on what occupation, which pathway you plan to take, there's state sponsored 190, as well as independent 189, as well as various business visas. There were also employer sponsored visa pathways but I think they amended it early March. Its not so easy anymore through employer sponsorship

For 189 and 190, different occupations means you'll need to have different points in order to be invited in a decent time frame. For 190, it varies with states too depends on your points and number of applicants.

I have no idea how business visas work since I done mine on skilled migration.

Mind you life isn't always better after emigrating from Malaysia unless you're an elite in your respective field. Somehow most of the Malaysian I came across here are really capable and credible. You'll be able to feed your family by working full time as a cashier anyway

I somehow regretted Australia and wish I went to canada

This post has been edited by Subang Nuclear Reactor: Apr 6 2018, 10:16 AM

I think too many people think migration will solve many of their problems back home, politically and financially. These should not be the only reasons to migrate.

This post has been edited by HuorEarfalas: Apr 6 2018, 10:17 AM

Oh yeah there's still another pathway, through marriages.

90% of the Taiwanese girls I came across got in through marrying locals.

The process burns a lot of money, but once you're through it, you pretty much solved your necessities problems

Minimum wage of 18.29 means you will be able to afford a cheap car and cheap house even working at McDonalds.

This post has been edited by Subang Nuclear Reactor: Apr 6 2018, 10:27 AM

where to find cheap house

Estimation how much money ?

Let's say as a lecturer / software engineer?

gold coast outer suburbs, find those vietnamese suburbs, easily could find 300k+ houses, sub 400k generally.

I'm eyeing on coomera and oxenford area, 400 to 500k but that is a really nice suburb with lots of amenities nearby, national parks nearby too.

First, get your ACS accreditation i think, for software engineers.

then, probably you will need flat 8 in IELTS in order to reach 75 or even 80 points for 189.

or you can find other lobangs

If you lodge all the applications and do all the things yourself, probably a couple thousands AUD, but if you're too lazy to do all these then just get an agent to do them for you.

you might need to prepare 30k AUD or so for you to spend after you arrive in Australia, if you dont plan to work part time while finding jobs related to your major.

I've heard stories about people being jobless even after a year.

some just fly here to fulfill the first entry requirement and then fly back to their original country while applying for jobs, to minimize spending

This post has been edited by Subang Nuclear Reactor: Apr 6 2018, 12:35 PM

Thanks for the info. Process usually take around how long?

depends

usually if you have very high points, for software engineer, i believe that's 80 points
around 6 months to a year (provided you have everything prepared, certificates, english language test results, police clearance records, proof of income and a lot more)

mediocre points 1 year plus to 2 years, probably 70 to 75 for software engineer

if you only have 60, you can forget about it unless you could get sponsorship either from state or employer

This post has been edited by Subang Nuclear Reactor: Apr 6 2018, 01:00 PM

gooding ka?

what about Southport?

*asking for fun only

Why Canada though.

Hope this ain't one of those grass is greener issues

You need to ask yourself why migrate? it might and might not be a good option but its personal choice i know.

go through the immigration requirement (see if your profession on the list) and go through point calculator first and see if you can reach the min. requirement.

If can , got to immi.gov website and study the process

if not clear, compile your questions and ask migration agent (via email, phone call , agent or seminar)

really depends on your qualification and situations.

I think many reasons including finding a better income career there is one of them. Also wanna explore and experience the lifestyle and different culture there too.
Eyeing on Perth because it is nearest to Malaysia and no time difference.

You can try google search on some Malaysian Agency. Currently my application is with Rayford.

You still can lodge the application on your own in immi.gov.au but I am too lazy on those document verification, so i decided to "outsource" this to agency.

btw, im lodging 189 and 190 application.

Good luck to you mate.

nah no thx
i hate the traffic, and i think with 500k you can only get a tiny as hek unit
I've already got one small lil tiny bitch unit near Melb CBD, i wanna get away from city and closer to nature now.

weather and disaster and politics... aside from SA and Tas, WA, NT, QLD generally is hot as fuck.....

and then you got so many cyclones around NT and QLD

I felt like I love cold weather, and rather have blizzard than tropical cyclones. even though Tas and SA is cold but.... those 2 are small lil state with not much industrial activity going on. Even Holden has GGed.

from political point of view, Canada has got some Chinese or pro-Chinese dudes in parliament, that's a huge plus point. And it's very close to US, even though i dont really like US government, but the people generally is fun, and the landscape is amazing

what about perth? ok?

I'm a msian with PR here in Perth for 6 yrs, can PM me if you have questions.

How is that possible, Taiwanese speaks english worst than KL pipu

I believe it's because aus is literally a collosal island and got nowhere else to go except neighboring cities, not to mention the distance apart between cities.

If canada, a person can still go to neighboring US for vacation or even Mexico and other south american countries.and if anything didnt end well and went south u still can start again in other countless big cities in north america. Besides the opportunity is vast in north america where everything is made and begin from technology to culture.

TS can try asking in this thread instead:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3776619

Yeah for the most part it's basically Mad Max

Thanks

Could be very bored place

It’s okay I guess. Nothing to write home about. Been here 10 years. Mostly worked in oil and gas with some mining experience.

If you’re a high tech employee you’ll have to realise quickly that Australia isn’t a high tech nation with cutting edge IT or software development. For an anglophone country it’s well behind the curve and if you want any meaningful prospects, Sydney and maybe Melbourne are the only reasonable choices.

Also for the love of god and all that is holy, don’t choose Perth unless you have a job ready for you.

How is oil n gas industry there? Easy to get job or not?

How's the housing market there?

Just a visitor to WA, not someone who migrated to Australia:

Those nice dreamy houses with a nice yard and pool - easily 250k/500k+ AUD. Saw their tv ads for real estate.

Also, job wise hearsay, hard even for locals to place into higher positions/secure job, a year or two delay. That's the first thing I heard in a bus

Nice country to visit awhile but to migrate, think again.

Haha just find your own hobby lor.

Can suki suki long time good enough oredi...

as long as you're pretty, just open your leg, no conversations involved hence no need to have comprehensible english

and this is why im in the gym now at 2.30am, only 24hours gym and mcdonald is operating. i can forsee i will be bored of this place in 5 years. assume i will go on a road trip and finish exploring one state/ territory a year.

The car is cheaper there , can change new car easily.
I like the Toyota gt86 should be the best choice
Anyway after weekend can drive along the road to outskirts , thats was have fun too.

This post has been edited by Benefon: Apr 9 2018, 01:22 AM

Cars aren't exactly cheap, compared to US, and not much cheaper compared to Malaysia, we do also have luxury car taxes here, expensive rego and insurance, fuel etc etc.

yeah, it's a bigger country than Malaysia, even though a huge part of it is flat and dry land, there's still some really nice tropical forests in QLD and some nice landscape in Tas and Vic

After some time spent here i realised it's not what i thought it would be

im trying to rake in as much money as possible now to go for various trips oversea

actually looking at visiting africa and climb kilimanjaro

This post has been edited by Subang Nuclear Reactor: Apr 9 2018, 01:43 AM

If you consider car only, life is definitely going to be better... but if you consider property as well, then things might be difference. Lot of people rent room or share house only.

Assuming Msia freshie get 36k PA and Aussie freshie also get 36k PA after tax (usually more)...
86 cost over RM200k or $42K (top spec instead of peasant spec)
Proton Rm40k vs $20k (rough estimate- dun flame cause no idea)
When you mention insurance, tax, fuel, rego, maintenance of car, they almost average back quite similar. Cheaper premium petrol, higher insuance, cheaper maintenance & tires, higher parking rates in city, free parking in shopping center, etc...

Rental could be RM1k vs $2k
property in major city RM500k (3br condo) vs 800k (2br unit)

how much is the average rental there for a couple stay?

$400-500 would be a good average depending to the city you stay.

Depend where you stay, for $500 per week you can get a old 1 bedroom unit in city or 2 bedroom unit in a further out surburb or 1 bedroom in a lux condo type of unit with pool, near to facilities and transport, etc or a house somewhere far out from city. Post code also play a part, as some area are very relatively safe and some are high crime.
For $300-400 a week you can probably do share room, you and your partner get a bedroom or master bedroom with ensuite and share with other people in a house, etc...

for someone looking at migrating, it only makes sense to convert everything to RM term right now, before he start earning AUD.

I've seen people got their visa granted, flew in and blew their savings before they found a job. Except eating out, everything seems a lot cheaper in dollar terms but they forgot they're spending their reserve that's sitting in RM.

dollar to dollar terms though, I bought a 2 bed 2 bath in Melb CBD (la trobe street) for less than AUD600k, i doubt you can get a 2 bed 2 bath in KL CBD for RM600k

Another major consideration is also your salary package, my mom isnt willing to move because she could earn more in Malaysia as an auditor rather than Australia, if you compare dollar to dollar, it's significantly more... There are plenty of RM20k/month auditor in Malaysia, but a handful are getting AUD20k/month in australia

So yeah, a lot more things you need to consider before you move. Whether you wanna compare prices after conversion, or compare straight in dollars term, depends on your situation.

Tyre prices though, dont forget to include tyre disposal fee, son of a bitch when i realised i need to pay around 100 dollars more for that shit

This post has been edited by Subang Nuclear Reactor: Apr 9 2018, 01:53 PM

My points (predicted)
30 from age (a bit rush, but hopefully can reach by then);
20 English (quite sure can get, my academic IELTS 8.5/9.0 surely general training is easier)
10 Skills (work experience outside AU)
15 Qualification


75 pts. How likely to get the skilled independent visa?
I know can apply but approve is a whole other story

Edit : Maybe another 5 for "community language"
I can also move there on another visa first, gather AU work experience for points, but by then I will lose points from my age category already

This post has been edited by jfleong: Apr 9 2018, 02:32 PM

Generally if you say you can move here on another temporary visa which also allows you to work (assuming), then it is better to get here first and start working right away. Gain at least 2 or 3 years of AU experience then apply for other permanent visas on shore. This way your chances of getting the visa you wanted is higher, as you are an on-shore applicant, and you pay taxes, your chances of getting the visa is higher and faster IMHO. Heck you can even try to get your employer to sponsor you if you're lucky....

Note: I am not sure what "other visa" do you mean exactly , and most employers here will not hire if you do not own a visa which allows you to work.

This post has been edited by rg470: Apr 9 2018, 03:22 PM

This is skilled dependent visa , is permanent
Other visas are like employer sponsored visa, limited to a few years
I'm at a predicament because if I start working there on a temporary visa, by the time I gain the experience needed for the 5 points, I would have lost 5 points from my age

how they give point based on age?

If you are good enough to be offered an employer sponsored visa (which is recently being revised and made stricter), then I assume you are good at what you are doing (your job). If that is the case, try negotiate with the employer later to get an employer sponsored permanent resident visa. Unless your employer has already said upfront that they don't do that.....

This post has been edited by rg470: Apr 9 2018, 03:57 PM

You were taken for a ride...lol tire disposal.

If fresh off the boat, stay in rented room, no need to buy white goods or furniture... Have housemates that can bring your around. Live like a dog for 6 month to 2 years and enjoy later.

Waste money renting whole place, just suffer longer... Unless got lot of money can pay down payment for property then different story.

If high flier in Msia, no need migrate la, unless got expect package. Money is king already in Malaysia.

Applied for visa after getting nominated by SA. Hope all goes well. Job prospects is definitely a concern.

Migrating not for myself, but for kid's education and future prospects.

when you migrate to OZ u need to do it when you are young generally below 30s and have kids and are investing everything you have in the long haul for your kids future

oh i am 39 liao

Work experience outside of AU you will need to submit an application for them to assess. Usually will be discounted, eg you claimed 10 years but they will only approve it as 5 years

by community language, do you mean NAATI ? You need to take NAATI exam and pass it in order to claim that 5 points. Used to be easy, not anymore now.

how many points you need depends on your occupation too but if you're interested just submit an EOI.

can still make it but you gonna slog like an old cow toiling the soil 24/7 366 days a year and do be afraid to take toilet cleaner jobs as there aint anything you can do in the job market now unless you start your own business, even that its usually either restaurant or selling something i.e. minimarket, health products, sex toys etc.., everything else is already there and present in all burbs, county and states

there are a ton of over 30s Aussies in managerial positions everywhere, new\noob asians typically are bottom rung jobs
you are a SVP or even COO in your home country so what, in OZ you are nothing more then a noob vying for high ranking positions with the locals
unless you are one of those superstar COOs that can turn things around and return high profits or have some kind of invention or selling some kind of unique stuff that you are not able to find in OZ and is in demand.

else dont even think about asking for a high post unless you are damn lucky. this is where you hear all the story of ppl migrating over there thinking they can get better bla bla bla, thats when reality kick you in the nuts and you are forced to come back with your tail between your legs as you have run outta money to survive. then when ppl ask why you come back you will lie and say boring lah, no this no that lah, all farking excuses, you just didnt cut it there

you want to be a manger and work for someone you gotta start young and work from the bottom up, this is where you children comes in.
as mentioned migrating is for the benefit of your children, your life will be sacrificed and forfeited

SYDNEY may be known as one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in … and now it looks like parking your car also comes with a huge price.

The vendor of a parking spot at Macleay Apartments in Potts Point is asking $199,000.

That is about $15,300 per square metre. And no, it doesn’t come with water views or designer interiors.

The 13sqm spot at 28 Macleay St is just big enough to fit one car and has little room for anything else.

The parking spot is in the heart of Potts Point – right opposite a Woolworths, next to a lift and has access to the pool in the building.

“You’re a lot owner in the building and there is a pool where you are free to just jump in,” said selling agent Nuri Shik of Laing and Simmons Potts Point.

if all paperwork is ready and point enough, a few months done.

go with agent, if qualify and they take your application guarantee dapat or money back (unless you fail health check)

want to save money, you screw up bye bye migration... I got fren kena, cause say easy onl,y save money, no need agent... regret also too late already.

can get back money? how?

Get back the agent fees only. Not the fees you pay Australia gov.

Remember that education wise, new reforms held by senate don't give PRs access to the same level of government support as citizens.

Also trust me education and pressure is better in Malaysia. Half of the cunts I work with can't even spell for shit. You guys have one language.....

SA's primary industries are defense (which you have no access to as a non-citizen due to NS1 vetting) and mining. If you don't have mining experience you're in for a world of hurt.

This post has been edited by empire23: Apr 13 2018, 07:37 AM

Aust is a socialist country driven heavily on welfare mentality. Govt taxes corporations (30% company tax) and individuals heavily to help finance welfare recipients. This means that high-income earners pay a significant part of their pay in taxes so actually discourages workers to work harder.

Due to Aust being socialist, working in a heavily-unionised workforce is more rewarding and work like that is usually govt-related (public service in federal or state govt, local councils and universities). However, before getting into such positions, you normally need to be Aust citizens and not PRs with job applications very competitive and hard to get shortlisted esp if you are a new migrant. Conditions in these organisations are usually very attractive as they have been hard-fought for by their unions (which is very strong in these organisations). With job security hardly existing now, jobs with these organisations are highly-valued and treasured.

Aust is slowly left behind by more capitalist countries like US and UK where there is not such a strong emphasis on welfare and it would be interesting to see where Aust will be in 10 years time.

lol this year alone based on my last payslip I've paid 99654 dollars of income taxes. Probably by the time the financial year is done I'll be at the 130 mark. And that's with an ATO variation in place for a lower rate.

It is definitely painful.

This post has been edited by empire23: Apr 13 2018, 09:13 AM

Wow! Your gross must be a few hundred thousand.

Grossing between $250k to $500k in O&G and you're good at it is pretty normal here.

Someone has to support the dole bludgers so they can pay for their goon and winnie blues

Eitherway, you're right, taxes are a big problem here. I'm quite worried that we haven't even implemented all the recommendations from the Henry Tax Review and it has been nearly a decade.

Wow - I didn't realise the wages are so high. You are talking A$, aren't you?

Yes of course. Usually with that kinda income stream, you'll have to have some sort of trust fund to reduce your taxable income.

I didn't realise that O&G occupation were so high - it will probably be in the top 1% income earners.

I think trust funds is not as effective as they used to be. Nowadays there isn't as much tax shelters as before - probably only negative gearing and borrow like crazy.

'You've got to get out from your comfort zone': how one family adjusted to a new life in Australia
BY SUE LANNIN
UPDATED SUN 1 APR 2018, 9:40 AM AEST


VIDEO 1:03 Tendean Kesuma decided to move his family to Australia for a new start.

Imagine relocating your life from the country you've always known to somewhere very different with a 7-year-old daughter and 11-year-old son.

The Kesuma family did just that.

After the violence of the May 1998 riots in Jakarta, Tendean Kesuma decided to move his family from Indonesia to Australia for a new start. It was 2005 before they could make their first step with a temporary move to Singapore. They landed in Melbourne in 2007.

It was tough. They moved from middle-class affluence to renting in suburban Melbourne and paying hefty fees for their kids to go to school in Australia while they waited four years for permanent residency.

But 10 years on, both kids are studying at university and the family is hoping to buy a house in Melbourne later this year.

Tendean Kesuma
PHOTO Tendean Kesuma decided to move to Australia after being caught in a violent riot in Jakarta.

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Tendean Kesuma, 50, father
Real estate reporting analyst Tendean studied at RMIT University in Melbourne and returned to Indonesia to work for multinational companies. He hoped his children could get a better education by moving to Australia.

To be honest I don't think I'm Indonesian after all the hell that I've been through. But when we moved to Singapore, we reckoned we were Singaporean because we were so accepted over there. Now I'm proud I'm an Australian.

I decided to move here for a better life for the family after all the things I've been through in Indonesia.

Back in 1998, there was a big riot there. I got to make a split decision which luckily, I did. If went the other way I might have got killed.

I was in the office in Jakarta and there were riots. My younger brother called my wife and said, "Don't let him leave the house," but it was too late and I was in the middle of it. By 10 o'clock they blew up the shopping centre just across from our office.

The boss said: "You are not going home. If you go home I am pretty sure you are going to get killed somewhere around there because people are just blocking the road." He said the best way was to go and stay at a hotel.

By 3:00am I got a call from one of my friends in the military and he said it was safe to go home.

I just saw bodies everywhere, burning cars, burning buses.
There was a lot of hatred, a lot of hatred towards Chinese, a lot of hatred towards non-Muslim, Catholic, burning all the churches and all that.

Moving to Australia was hard especially for my wife because she had never been to any foreign country. Singapore was alright for her because she speaks Mandarin and the culture is kind of the same.

Citizenship ceremony
PHOTO The Kesuma family became citizens in 2014.

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When we came here it was a bit of crisis, we couldn't find accommodation. About a month I stayed with my brother. It was so hard but finally we got in somewhere in Hawthorn (inner city Melbourne).

It has been hard financially. I've got to pay the full amount of money for my children as full fee-paying students. We were paying around $10,000 for the government school (per year).

Most of the money that I saved to come here — one day I thought I would buy a house — it's all gone to pay school fees. Basically, I just lost one house over there to pay for their education.

Yes, there are racists, even in Singapore there are racists.
But the good thing about Australia there is a law here. The law protects you. But back in Indonesia the law is there but it's not going to protect you.

My advice for people thinking of moving is that if your kids are still young, do it straightaway because it's going to be easier for the kids to adapt.

Secondly, you've just got to get out from your comfort zone. You've just got to learn the way of life here, not try to be together with your peers. That's the best advice.

Sabina Kesuma
PHOTO Sabina Deanita Kesuma wouldn't have had the opportunity to study neuroscience if she'd stayed in Indonesia or Singapore.

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Sabina Deanita Kesuma, 18, daughter
Sabina was 7 when her family arrived. Now she is studying neuroscience and psychology at Swinburne University in Melbourne and working part-time in a fast food restaurant. She finished her final year of high school in Victoria in the top 10 per cent of students across the state.

I'd never really experienced what cold weather felt like. In Indonesia and Singapore, the climate is similar: humid, hot and warm.

When we first arrived at Melbourne Airport I had my big coat on and I couldn't wait to get outside and feel the cold weather.

One of the biggest challenges growing up was getting to know people over and over again because you meet people and they already have their best friends from childhood.

Sabina with a flag
PHOTO A young Sabina Kesuma celebrating National Day in Singapore.

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I'd never been to a school where I would start from the beginning and stay to the very end until I went to high school. I'm super grateful for the friends that I have because they are the longest relationships that I have.

I got teased or bullied a little bit but not too much. Sometimes because of my height — I'm short.

People would ask me if I do karate because I'm Asian obviously. No, but I do like watching Jackie Chan movies.
Leaving behind the culture was a sacrifice. My cousins have a closer relationship with each other and I feel like a foreigner in my own family because when I do speak Indonesian I have an accent and I'm not too fluent.

Sometimes I can't really connect with my friends here even though I can speak English so it's sort of separated who I am. They don't know what it's like to have family members over in Indonesia.

I see myself as Indo-Sing-Australian: a combination of being Indonesian, Singaporean and Australian.

Every time we go back to Indonesia I always feel like I'm going back to my past. Singapore is my childhood, because I went to school there and made friends there, I had really good friends.

Australia is my future because one of the main reasons we came here was for my education and if we had stayed in Indonesia and Singapore I wouldn't have been able to do neuroscience. I wouldn't have had as many options as I do now.

Margaretta Kesuma
PHOTO Margaretta Kesuma found it hard to make friends in Melbourne at first.

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Margaretta Kesuma, 47, mother
Margaretta loves her job as a chef at an aged care home in Melbourne. She worked as an accountant and a piano teacher in Indonesia. Coming to Australia with two young kids was a challenge.

The hard thing about coming to Australia is that I had to adjust everything. I had to adjust for the food, weather, friends, environment and especially the language.

In Indonesia, we had a big family. We had a maid to do everything in housework. I felt very alone because my family is in Indonesia and I'm just, "oh my God," I am here and I have to look after kids especially as the kids were very young.

But after that I am very thankful because now I have the skill to do housework, I have to know how to organise everything because I do everything now.

At first I felt a little bit lonely. I had a few friends from Indonesia, but I needed more.

I tried to do the best to make friends. Now I have a lot everywhere, in my work, in my neighbourhood, everywhere.

I feel happier now but sometimes I really miss my family at home, especially my parents.
My dad is sick with prostate cancer.

I'm just lucky to be here. My parents are very proud of me and us because they know we are safe.

My husband and I are very close now because we work together, especially the housework. We cook together, we depend on each other. We're very, very close now compared to Indonesia. We have to solve problems every day together.

Sebastian smiles
PHOTO Sebastian Kesuma experienced culture shock when he arrived in Australia at age 11.

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Sebastian Kesuma, 21, son
Sebastian is studying third-year engineering at Swinburne University and works as an intern at Melbourne Water. Although he was fluent in English when he arrived aged 11, Australian slang was a challenge at first. Sport was the way that Sebastian made friends. He follows Hawthorn in the AFL.

It was a different experience coming to Australia. Different culture, there was a bit of a shock.

And coming out from the airport it's like, "Oh wow, it's so clean and it's so quiet".

Young Sebastian in a football jersey.
PHOTO Sebastian Kesuma developed a love for the Hawthorn AFL team.

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People accepted me when I came, they invited me to play soccer during lunchtime back in primary school. I was a little nervous back then but then I get used to it.

Sport helped me fit in. It was good to discuss sport with my primary school friends: footy and cricket.
My advice to someone moving here is to join a lot of clubs. It's really hard to talk with your neighbours in Australia since they are very busy with work. Try to do volunteering if you can't find a job.

My primary school teacher supervised me through reading skills and I also made friends through my communication skills and improving my English. I also watched English language TV show to improve.

In high school when one of my classmates told me to go back to where you came from. That was bullying.

I reported it to the teacher and the next day me and the bully we had a discussion on why is it wrong.

What I learnt that usually the bully has problems in their own life.

As human beings, we should take care of each other no matter what.

I see myself as Chinese Indonesian Australian and maybe like the rest of the world. I see people as one identity and one human race. We are all human beings


http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-01/h...stralia/9605278

I live very near to a church in Sydney and after Sunday morning mass, there are so many Indonesian Christians outside the church chatting with each other and i have always wondered why there are so many more Indonesians in Sydney compared to Msians. I only found the answer after goggle-ing and reading about the 1998 race riots. I have been very ignorant about the history of Indonesia all the while.

O&G there is massive. My cousins are there and they are doing very well because the demand in the country.

Of course, competition is another. Just my 2 cents!

Never heard much about O&G salaries - only heard about the mining jobs pay were like A$250-300k/yr in WA about 7-8 years ago which contributed to a huge property boom in Perth then but in the last 3-4 years that mining boom has faded off.

Yes bro. It was like the golden era sometime back and now, it faded off badly (my cousins, 3 of them lives in Perth before they moved on)

Just got the 489 visa for SA a few days ago. Do you guys start your job hunt while in Malaysia?

Does it mean i have to submit to ACS first to get my work experience accessed before i am able to get the points under the category of [Skilled employment in the last 10 years – outside Australia] and submit an EOI? By the way, why will the work experience get discounted? For instance, if i have worked in Malaysia for about 3.5 years, i might not have a chance to get the 5 points?

Those contemplating migrating, I suggest do the PTE instead of IELTS..easier to score high to get the full 20 points.... IELTS is different to score band 8 in all components...

A relative just sat after previous band 8.5 but writing 7.5....full 90 marks, result out 3 days after sitting, revised eoi from 65 to 75 points...and called for processing 4 days later....

yeap. there is a chance you might not get the 5 points. Might get discounted depends on your role and tasks for that 3.5 years.

Eg if you have an engineering degree but your role and tasks resemble that of operator, they will discount the work experience you're claiming.

not really sure about ACS and programmers and softwares, but that's an example for engineers.

Will you leave your aged parents behind in Malaysia when you migrate to Australia?

I think it's cruel and not ethical.
But it's a dilemma for those who want to migrate.
For me, I had chosen my path to stay, no matter how good Aussie is, I cannot leave my parents back.
But old folks very hard to convince them to move as they born work and will die at the same spot.
Such is life.

Well, depends. For me, my parents supported it. They think it is better for the future

Also, money earned overseas helps to provide a better retirement for them. Just sending a few hundred pounds helps a lot

Still had siblings in Malaysia so that helps that they are not completely alone

But the only time you will see your parents is once a year or at the final days.

It is so sad.

After thinking hard, I cannot imagine I can go through it.

I want to be with them when they 're lively and well.

Such is life for me.

Therefore I can only make the best of the situation now, strife and succeed under this conditions as my parents had invested their future here.

See how it goes. God have plans for all of us.

Once you are a citizen, you can always move back and stay with them

driving there is no fun at all, AES every where.... had to really follow the KPH....

for me, Malaysia still the best, foreman under pokok may fix ur issue with only RM30....
in Aussie, i think change engine oil also u need pay AUD30 for the labour dy.

Naturalising means giving up Msian citizenship...as a "foreigner" you will have restrictions in staying and getting jobs....

A routine service with engine oil change cost $150 at Kmart....

yes... ACS will determine whether you have a minor or major in IT on your degree then calculate how many years of work experience you can claim based on the relevance of the job experience you have submitted to them

have a read at the ACS guidelines... the deduction is because even with an IT major, the first 2 years in general doesn't contribute much to your work experience

the application is pretty straight forward... its all on their gov website... just need to spend (A LOT OF) time to read carefully and understand...

agent can't guarantee whether your application will or can be successful... they basically just runners...

they dont change oil, but perform "minor service" where they ensure that the vehicle is road worthy, hence the $150 price tag

if you know those owner operated mechanic, they can change oil - $30 for labour and dispose oil, supply own oil. No receipt as they dont want liability if you accident and car not reliable and they will be responsible if car is not safe because they "serviced" it, blah blah blah....

High income and trained qualifed mechanics ma.

those that guarantee ones (no visa, no fees) will only take your case if they are confidence you will get it as they are experience registered migration agency and got lawyers....
but you can say you know better cause you can read, ask forums and google, and you save a lot of money. there are also unregistered agents/runners and their cost will be lower.

Agents know loopholes they can exploit, you dont. They know which skill and subclass to park you under, what path, how to get extra points, etc.

As I mention before, I know people who think its pretty straight forward and screw up their process and got rejected.
Price of migration agents have gone up significantly or RM gone down significantly so that are a lot of savings if you are confident you can do it yourself.


This guy wrote some things to watch out for....


https://kclau.com/blogging/migrate-to-austr...comment-page-1/


1. Migration Agents Registration:
For most people who are seriously considering their prospect of migrating to Australia, they would go to a migration agent (based in Malaysia or Singapore). Before you even visit them, make sure you find out first if their name and company is being registered with the Australian Government Office of Migration Agent Registration Authority.

Visit their web site, and click on Find An Agent, type in their business name, Migration Agents Registration Number and the agent’s name and find out what is their current status. If the record says they are registered, that’s good. But if it says deregistered, it means they have failed to comply with certain standards required by the relevant authority.

Usually, if their record is clean, they will proudly tell you that they are registered with the Office of Migration Agent Registration and encourage you to visit www.mara.gov.au. Regardless they tell you or not, you should always go find out from that web site. But it does not follow that if they are legally compliant, they are ethically sound. You will have to find that out yourself.

2. Australian Immigration
This is the website that contains all the necessary information for anyone who wants to migrate to Australia. Even if you have appointed an agent to handle your Permanent Resident Visa application for you, you will be much better off to familiarise yourself with the overall Australian Migration Programme.

When you have an overall big picture view of the Australian Migration Programme, you will find it easier to discuss matters and possible options with your migration agent. For example, if you want to apply this year, you should know what plans the Australian Government have for their 2014-2015 period.

For example, in the web site, you will click on ‘media’ and then go to ‘fact sheets’ and get some very useful information as presented below:

With information as shown above, at least you will know which category you belong to and how many such visas will be given out the following year. You agent will also be less inclined to charge you a higher than necessary price because he knows you have done your homework yourself!

Understand that the migration agent is also constantly reading this government web site to keep themselves up-to-date with the latest legislative changes and all things related to Australia’s Migration Programme.

3. Buying Businesses
When buying a business in Australia, watch out for small businesses that are just slightly more than three to five years old. This is because the law here requires business sellers to show the past three years’ book keeping and financial statement records to potential buyers so that they can then make a more informed decision as to whether the asking price is justifiable or not.

The problem is that there are many small and medium business operators whose main income comes not from their daily business operations. For example, a café operator would start his café from scratch and then run it for three and a half year and then try to sell off his business to some cash rich and unsuspecting new migrant from China, Malaysia or Singapore – especially those who business migrants.

As you would have guessed by now, surely they will make sure their accounting books look as attractive as possible. How would they do it? They will make expenses as low as possible and make their profit as high as possible so that they will be able to sell for a higher price than would otherwise have been impossible.

4. Caution with the developer.
Fourth, be very careful with developers who mainly sell to the new migrant population and foreign buyers whose children are attending colleges and universities in Australia.

These property developers mainly employ staff with Asian backgrounds and have booths in shopping malls with a lot of Asian customers. Usually these apartments or condominiums are near university campuses and train stations. Local buyers would not normally buy such properties.

Would you buy an apartment next to a college campus in Malaysia or Singapore? Usually the answer is no unless you are interested in renting out to student tenants. Locals in Australia would not like that because they prefer working tenants (especially medical staff) rather than student tenants.

Another very common way these developers market themselves is through some educational seminar on how to invest in the Australian property market. Instead of training you and helping you learn about property investment, they will try to sell you their new developments.

I have a student who bought an apartment unit from one such agent at an above-average price and was greatly disappointed when he moved in four months later when the project is finally completed. Material used was substandard, space was limited and the possibility of making a profit will very minimal.

He even told me the only people he could sell to next time is to look for new migrants who do not know the market conditions here and preferably he or she does not much English as well. What a sad case. There is a big industry of business operators that prey mainly on new migrants and property developers are among them. Do not forget the café operators mentioned above as well.

5. Watch out for student agents:
If you come here on a student visa but your main objective is to eventually become a permanent resident, you might need to consult an agent on how to extend your student visa when it expires. Many students will have to change from one college to another if they want to continue staying in Australia.

So they seek help from student agents who supposedly will suggest they attend the right school to get the right qualification that will eventually help them get their permanent resident visa. But do not forget that such student agents do not really care if in the end you will get the PR or not.

All they focus on is get you enrol in the colleges or universities they represent so that they get their commission from them. It helps if they can also charge you a fee for giving you their advice.

This will help cover their business overheads such as their office rental and electricity bills. Do your own research. Do not rely on student agents to decide which college or universities you should attend.

6. Choose your business carefully:
I have a friend who bought a news agent business. He worked in that business for three years before he gave it up by selling it at a price that barely breaks even. In Malaysia he was a lawyer.

In this business he had to be at the premises every morning at 4am to collect the newspapers and had to stay till seven to complete his daily round of stock take and paper work. Very tedious, it is worse than working for someone. Now, he works for someone as an insurance underwriter. What is the moral of the story? Stick to your knitting.

That was the very reason why we had decided to not get involved with restaurant business in Australia. We have not done restaurant business before and do not want to risk our capital in unchartered waters. Of course, you call your shots. Nothing venture nothing gain. But I believe after a certain age, we have more to lose and less to gain if we do not have a realistic view of what our limitations are.

Meanwhile, there is a Singaporean man with a strong educational and journalistic background with the leading English paper in Singapore. He had observed that the English writing standards of student in Australian schools is appalling. So, he started a tuition centre mainly helping students improve their English writing skills and he is doing very well.

If you are already in the area of education in Malaysia or Singapore, I strongly recommend you to explore the tuition business in Australia. More and more parents are pushing their children to do well in school and government examinations.

They also want their kids to study in prestigious private schools and Ivy League Universities. So they need to prepare their kids to take the select school examinations in the hope that their kids will get full scholarship. In order to do well in select school exams, they will have to turn to tuition centres which specialise in grooming students to score in such exams and you will be surprised to know that these parents are very willing to pay for your services if they know you can do a good job.

Vir, you become migration agent already ah?....

no la...

just pro and cons of using agent or DIY

kawan regret didnt use agent cause screw up... no 2nd chance. now a slumlord in KL.

slum lord also ok what....lol

why no 2nd chance?...

those with straight forward cases going for 189/190 can easily do diy lah....it's those with borderline cases, not enough points etc, that may be helped by agents who can find other visa categories that may improve chances...

whether one is using an agent or not, for those who are applying for skilled migration (usually 189/190)... i personally will still strongly suggest him/her to do sufficient homework first, if he/she doesn't even know what subclass he/she can apply for... that's a huge red flag
you don't need an agent to tell you that you can claim partner points, take a NAATI cert, get state sponsorship or get a high score via PTE... its all over the internet

once you sort that out, you can get an agent to reconfirm your understanding and points... the first consultation is free anyway as far as i remember... they can tell you up front whether you can or cannot apply... and what kind of time lines to expect (together with the quotation of their services)

i know someone who got screwed up by an agent with plenty of promises in the end got blamed for delaying the application because he cannot get all 8.0 in IELTS... base on my conversation with the poor guy, its a miracle that he can even get near 6.0

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Apr 27 2018, 07:17 AM

he went agent after that, but agent say his chance is very slim due to previous application and didn't want to take his case...

last I heard he was planning to try NZ then maybe backdoor back to OZ....

Iianm, they don't blacklist you unless you have made a false declaration in the past....

That is why if your realise your eoi is incorrect and they invite you, it best to let the invite lapse and resubmit the eoi, than attempt to claim points without proof....

But this is common sense lah....

Didn't know got NZ backdoor....kiwi pr no right to stay in Oz....