where to find cheap house

gooding ka?

what about Southport?

*asking for fun only

If you consider car only, life is definitely going to be better... but if you consider property as well, then things might be difference. Lot of people rent room or share house only.

Assuming Msia freshie get 36k PA and Aussie freshie also get 36k PA after tax (usually more)...
86 cost over RM200k or $42K (top spec instead of peasant spec)
Proton Rm40k vs $20k (rough estimate- dun flame cause no idea)
When you mention insurance, tax, fuel, rego, maintenance of car, they almost average back quite similar. Cheaper premium petrol, higher insuance, cheaper maintenance & tires, higher parking rates in city, free parking in shopping center, etc...

Rental could be RM1k vs $2k
property in major city RM500k (3br condo) vs 800k (2br unit)

$400-500 would be a good average depending to the city you stay.

Depend where you stay, for $500 per week you can get a old 1 bedroom unit in city or 2 bedroom unit in a further out surburb or 1 bedroom in a lux condo type of unit with pool, near to facilities and transport, etc or a house somewhere far out from city. Post code also play a part, as some area are very relatively safe and some are high crime.
For $300-400 a week you can probably do share room, you and your partner get a bedroom or master bedroom with ensuite and share with other people in a house, etc...

You were taken for a ride...lol tire disposal.

If fresh off the boat, stay in rented room, no need to buy white goods or furniture... Have housemates that can bring your around. Live like a dog for 6 month to 2 years and enjoy later.

Waste money renting whole place, just suffer longer... Unless got lot of money can pay down payment for property then different story.

If high flier in Msia, no need migrate la, unless got expect package. Money is king already in Malaysia.

SYDNEY may be known as one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in … and now it looks like parking your car also comes with a huge price.

The vendor of a parking spot at Macleay Apartments in Potts Point is asking $199,000.

That is about $15,300 per square metre. And no, it doesn’t come with water views or designer interiors.

The 13sqm spot at 28 Macleay St is just big enough to fit one car and has little room for anything else.

The parking spot is in the heart of Potts Point – right opposite a Woolworths, next to a lift and has access to the pool in the building.

“You’re a lot owner in the building and there is a pool where you are free to just jump in,” said selling agent Nuri Shik of Laing and Simmons Potts Point.

go with agent, if qualify and they take your application guarantee dapat or money back (unless you fail health check)

want to save money, you screw up bye bye migration... I got fren kena, cause say easy onl,y save money, no need agent... regret also too late already.

Get back the agent fees only. Not the fees you pay Australia gov.

'You've got to get out from your comfort zone': how one family adjusted to a new life in Australia
BY SUE LANNIN
UPDATED SUN 1 APR 2018, 9:40 AM AEST


VIDEO 1:03 Tendean Kesuma decided to move his family to Australia for a new start.

Imagine relocating your life from the country you've always known to somewhere very different with a 7-year-old daughter and 11-year-old son.

The Kesuma family did just that.

After the violence of the May 1998 riots in Jakarta, Tendean Kesuma decided to move his family from Indonesia to Australia for a new start. It was 2005 before they could make their first step with a temporary move to Singapore. They landed in Melbourne in 2007.

It was tough. They moved from middle-class affluence to renting in suburban Melbourne and paying hefty fees for their kids to go to school in Australia while they waited four years for permanent residency.

But 10 years on, both kids are studying at university and the family is hoping to buy a house in Melbourne later this year.

Tendean Kesuma
PHOTO Tendean Kesuma decided to move to Australia after being caught in a violent riot in Jakarta.

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Tendean Kesuma, 50, father
Real estate reporting analyst Tendean studied at RMIT University in Melbourne and returned to Indonesia to work for multinational companies. He hoped his children could get a better education by moving to Australia.

To be honest I don't think I'm Indonesian after all the hell that I've been through. But when we moved to Singapore, we reckoned we were Singaporean because we were so accepted over there. Now I'm proud I'm an Australian.

I decided to move here for a better life for the family after all the things I've been through in Indonesia.

Back in 1998, there was a big riot there. I got to make a split decision which luckily, I did. If went the other way I might have got killed.

I was in the office in Jakarta and there were riots. My younger brother called my wife and said, "Don't let him leave the house," but it was too late and I was in the middle of it. By 10 o'clock they blew up the shopping centre just across from our office.

The boss said: "You are not going home. If you go home I am pretty sure you are going to get killed somewhere around there because people are just blocking the road." He said the best way was to go and stay at a hotel.

By 3:00am I got a call from one of my friends in the military and he said it was safe to go home.

I just saw bodies everywhere, burning cars, burning buses.
There was a lot of hatred, a lot of hatred towards Chinese, a lot of hatred towards non-Muslim, Catholic, burning all the churches and all that.

Moving to Australia was hard especially for my wife because she had never been to any foreign country. Singapore was alright for her because she speaks Mandarin and the culture is kind of the same.

Citizenship ceremony
PHOTO The Kesuma family became citizens in 2014.

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When we came here it was a bit of crisis, we couldn't find accommodation. About a month I stayed with my brother. It was so hard but finally we got in somewhere in Hawthorn (inner city Melbourne).

It has been hard financially. I've got to pay the full amount of money for my children as full fee-paying students. We were paying around $10,000 for the government school (per year).

Most of the money that I saved to come here — one day I thought I would buy a house — it's all gone to pay school fees. Basically, I just lost one house over there to pay for their education.

Yes, there are racists, even in Singapore there are racists.
But the good thing about Australia there is a law here. The law protects you. But back in Indonesia the law is there but it's not going to protect you.

My advice for people thinking of moving is that if your kids are still young, do it straightaway because it's going to be easier for the kids to adapt.

Secondly, you've just got to get out from your comfort zone. You've just got to learn the way of life here, not try to be together with your peers. That's the best advice.

Sabina Kesuma
PHOTO Sabina Deanita Kesuma wouldn't have had the opportunity to study neuroscience if she'd stayed in Indonesia or Singapore.

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Sabina Deanita Kesuma, 18, daughter
Sabina was 7 when her family arrived. Now she is studying neuroscience and psychology at Swinburne University in Melbourne and working part-time in a fast food restaurant. She finished her final year of high school in Victoria in the top 10 per cent of students across the state.

I'd never really experienced what cold weather felt like. In Indonesia and Singapore, the climate is similar: humid, hot and warm.

When we first arrived at Melbourne Airport I had my big coat on and I couldn't wait to get outside and feel the cold weather.

One of the biggest challenges growing up was getting to know people over and over again because you meet people and they already have their best friends from childhood.

Sabina with a flag
PHOTO A young Sabina Kesuma celebrating National Day in Singapore.

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I'd never been to a school where I would start from the beginning and stay to the very end until I went to high school. I'm super grateful for the friends that I have because they are the longest relationships that I have.

I got teased or bullied a little bit but not too much. Sometimes because of my height — I'm short.

People would ask me if I do karate because I'm Asian obviously. No, but I do like watching Jackie Chan movies.
Leaving behind the culture was a sacrifice. My cousins have a closer relationship with each other and I feel like a foreigner in my own family because when I do speak Indonesian I have an accent and I'm not too fluent.

Sometimes I can't really connect with my friends here even though I can speak English so it's sort of separated who I am. They don't know what it's like to have family members over in Indonesia.

I see myself as Indo-Sing-Australian: a combination of being Indonesian, Singaporean and Australian.

Every time we go back to Indonesia I always feel like I'm going back to my past. Singapore is my childhood, because I went to school there and made friends there, I had really good friends.

Australia is my future because one of the main reasons we came here was for my education and if we had stayed in Indonesia and Singapore I wouldn't have been able to do neuroscience. I wouldn't have had as many options as I do now.

Margaretta Kesuma
PHOTO Margaretta Kesuma found it hard to make friends in Melbourne at first.

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Margaretta Kesuma, 47, mother
Margaretta loves her job as a chef at an aged care home in Melbourne. She worked as an accountant and a piano teacher in Indonesia. Coming to Australia with two young kids was a challenge.

The hard thing about coming to Australia is that I had to adjust everything. I had to adjust for the food, weather, friends, environment and especially the language.

In Indonesia, we had a big family. We had a maid to do everything in housework. I felt very alone because my family is in Indonesia and I'm just, "oh my God," I am here and I have to look after kids especially as the kids were very young.

But after that I am very thankful because now I have the skill to do housework, I have to know how to organise everything because I do everything now.

At first I felt a little bit lonely. I had a few friends from Indonesia, but I needed more.

I tried to do the best to make friends. Now I have a lot everywhere, in my work, in my neighbourhood, everywhere.

I feel happier now but sometimes I really miss my family at home, especially my parents.
My dad is sick with prostate cancer.

I'm just lucky to be here. My parents are very proud of me and us because they know we are safe.

My husband and I are very close now because we work together, especially the housework. We cook together, we depend on each other. We're very, very close now compared to Indonesia. We have to solve problems every day together.

Sebastian smiles
PHOTO Sebastian Kesuma experienced culture shock when he arrived in Australia at age 11.

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Sebastian Kesuma, 21, son
Sebastian is studying third-year engineering at Swinburne University and works as an intern at Melbourne Water. Although he was fluent in English when he arrived aged 11, Australian slang was a challenge at first. Sport was the way that Sebastian made friends. He follows Hawthorn in the AFL.

It was a different experience coming to Australia. Different culture, there was a bit of a shock.

And coming out from the airport it's like, "Oh wow, it's so clean and it's so quiet".

Young Sebastian in a football jersey.
PHOTO Sebastian Kesuma developed a love for the Hawthorn AFL team.

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People accepted me when I came, they invited me to play soccer during lunchtime back in primary school. I was a little nervous back then but then I get used to it.

Sport helped me fit in. It was good to discuss sport with my primary school friends: footy and cricket.
My advice to someone moving here is to join a lot of clubs. It's really hard to talk with your neighbours in Australia since they are very busy with work. Try to do volunteering if you can't find a job.

My primary school teacher supervised me through reading skills and I also made friends through my communication skills and improving my English. I also watched English language TV show to improve.

In high school when one of my classmates told me to go back to where you came from. That was bullying.

I reported it to the teacher and the next day me and the bully we had a discussion on why is it wrong.

What I learnt that usually the bully has problems in their own life.

As human beings, we should take care of each other no matter what.

I see myself as Chinese Indonesian Australian and maybe like the rest of the world. I see people as one identity and one human race. We are all human beings


http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-01/h...stralia/9605278

Once you are a citizen, you can always move back and stay with them

they dont change oil, but perform "minor service" where they ensure that the vehicle is road worthy, hence the $150 price tag

if you know those owner operated mechanic, they can change oil - $30 for labour and dispose oil, supply own oil. No receipt as they dont want liability if you accident and car not reliable and they will be responsible if car is not safe because they "serviced" it, blah blah blah....

those that guarantee ones (no visa, no fees) will only take your case if they are confidence you will get it as they are experience registered migration agency and got lawyers....
but you can say you know better cause you can read, ask forums and google, and you save a lot of money. there are also unregistered agents/runners and their cost will be lower.

Agents know loopholes they can exploit, you dont. They know which skill and subclass to park you under, what path, how to get extra points, etc.

As I mention before, I know people who think its pretty straight forward and screw up their process and got rejected.
Price of migration agents have gone up significantly or RM gone down significantly so that are a lot of savings if you are confident you can do it yourself.


This guy wrote some things to watch out for....


https://kclau.com/blogging/migrate-to-austr...comment-page-1/


1. Migration Agents Registration:
For most people who are seriously considering their prospect of migrating to Australia, they would go to a migration agent (based in Malaysia or Singapore). Before you even visit them, make sure you find out first if their name and company is being registered with the Australian Government Office of Migration Agent Registration Authority.

Visit their web site, and click on Find An Agent, type in their business name, Migration Agents Registration Number and the agent’s name and find out what is their current status. If the record says they are registered, that’s good. But if it says deregistered, it means they have failed to comply with certain standards required by the relevant authority.

Usually, if their record is clean, they will proudly tell you that they are registered with the Office of Migration Agent Registration and encourage you to visit www.mara.gov.au. Regardless they tell you or not, you should always go find out from that web site. But it does not follow that if they are legally compliant, they are ethically sound. You will have to find that out yourself.

2. Australian Immigration
This is the website that contains all the necessary information for anyone who wants to migrate to Australia. Even if you have appointed an agent to handle your Permanent Resident Visa application for you, you will be much better off to familiarise yourself with the overall Australian Migration Programme.

When you have an overall big picture view of the Australian Migration Programme, you will find it easier to discuss matters and possible options with your migration agent. For example, if you want to apply this year, you should know what plans the Australian Government have for their 2014-2015 period.

For example, in the web site, you will click on ‘media’ and then go to ‘fact sheets’ and get some very useful information as presented below:

With information as shown above, at least you will know which category you belong to and how many such visas will be given out the following year. You agent will also be less inclined to charge you a higher than necessary price because he knows you have done your homework yourself!

Understand that the migration agent is also constantly reading this government web site to keep themselves up-to-date with the latest legislative changes and all things related to Australia’s Migration Programme.

3. Buying Businesses
When buying a business in Australia, watch out for small businesses that are just slightly more than three to five years old. This is because the law here requires business sellers to show the past three years’ book keeping and financial statement records to potential buyers so that they can then make a more informed decision as to whether the asking price is justifiable or not.

The problem is that there are many small and medium business operators whose main income comes not from their daily business operations. For example, a café operator would start his café from scratch and then run it for three and a half year and then try to sell off his business to some cash rich and unsuspecting new migrant from China, Malaysia or Singapore – especially those who business migrants.

As you would have guessed by now, surely they will make sure their accounting books look as attractive as possible. How would they do it? They will make expenses as low as possible and make their profit as high as possible so that they will be able to sell for a higher price than would otherwise have been impossible.

4. Caution with the developer.
Fourth, be very careful with developers who mainly sell to the new migrant population and foreign buyers whose children are attending colleges and universities in Australia.

These property developers mainly employ staff with Asian backgrounds and have booths in shopping malls with a lot of Asian customers. Usually these apartments or condominiums are near university campuses and train stations. Local buyers would not normally buy such properties.

Would you buy an apartment next to a college campus in Malaysia or Singapore? Usually the answer is no unless you are interested in renting out to student tenants. Locals in Australia would not like that because they prefer working tenants (especially medical staff) rather than student tenants.

Another very common way these developers market themselves is through some educational seminar on how to invest in the Australian property market. Instead of training you and helping you learn about property investment, they will try to sell you their new developments.

I have a student who bought an apartment unit from one such agent at an above-average price and was greatly disappointed when he moved in four months later when the project is finally completed. Material used was substandard, space was limited and the possibility of making a profit will very minimal.

He even told me the only people he could sell to next time is to look for new migrants who do not know the market conditions here and preferably he or she does not much English as well. What a sad case. There is a big industry of business operators that prey mainly on new migrants and property developers are among them. Do not forget the café operators mentioned above as well.

5. Watch out for student agents:
If you come here on a student visa but your main objective is to eventually become a permanent resident, you might need to consult an agent on how to extend your student visa when it expires. Many students will have to change from one college to another if they want to continue staying in Australia.

So they seek help from student agents who supposedly will suggest they attend the right school to get the right qualification that will eventually help them get their permanent resident visa. But do not forget that such student agents do not really care if in the end you will get the PR or not.

All they focus on is get you enrol in the colleges or universities they represent so that they get their commission from them. It helps if they can also charge you a fee for giving you their advice.

This will help cover their business overheads such as their office rental and electricity bills. Do your own research. Do not rely on student agents to decide which college or universities you should attend.

6. Choose your business carefully:
I have a friend who bought a news agent business. He worked in that business for three years before he gave it up by selling it at a price that barely breaks even. In Malaysia he was a lawyer.

In this business he had to be at the premises every morning at 4am to collect the newspapers and had to stay till seven to complete his daily round of stock take and paper work. Very tedious, it is worse than working for someone. Now, he works for someone as an insurance underwriter. What is the moral of the story? Stick to your knitting.

That was the very reason why we had decided to not get involved with restaurant business in Australia. We have not done restaurant business before and do not want to risk our capital in unchartered waters. Of course, you call your shots. Nothing venture nothing gain. But I believe after a certain age, we have more to lose and less to gain if we do not have a realistic view of what our limitations are.

Meanwhile, there is a Singaporean man with a strong educational and journalistic background with the leading English paper in Singapore. He had observed that the English writing standards of student in Australian schools is appalling. So, he started a tuition centre mainly helping students improve their English writing skills and he is doing very well.

If you are already in the area of education in Malaysia or Singapore, I strongly recommend you to explore the tuition business in Australia. More and more parents are pushing their children to do well in school and government examinations.

They also want their kids to study in prestigious private schools and Ivy League Universities. So they need to prepare their kids to take the select school examinations in the hope that their kids will get full scholarship. In order to do well in select school exams, they will have to turn to tuition centres which specialise in grooming students to score in such exams and you will be surprised to know that these parents are very willing to pay for your services if they know you can do a good job.

no la...

just pro and cons of using agent or DIY

kawan regret didnt use agent cause screw up... no 2nd chance. now a slumlord in KL.

he went agent after that, but agent say his chance is very slim due to previous application and didn't want to take his case...

last I heard he was planning to try NZ then maybe backdoor back to OZ....

I know ppl with NZ PR, not even NZ citizenship come to AU, then after stay 2 years apply PR and another few years apply AU citizenship.

Maybe they change and now this cannot jalan already... this I dunno. Thoas who are interested, then sendiri find out more, dun quote me.

The problem is the high labour cost....

the government want to establish such industry, but they went and increase the minimum salary rate... how would these labour intensive industry can survive?

hence they export the raw ore out to china for them to process and import the finished material back. Once china labour cost go up, they might have a chance to establish such industry.

I heard only those houseman years is suffering due to long hours.... working in hospitals and emergency dept

once finish horsemanship is easy life. I got a few friends in rural Victoria, like 9-5 then lepak as the town is so laid back

work long hours, no maid, junior salary, expensive housing...

better off be T5 in Malaysia

lol...

thanks for the fake story....
earlier says she and her husband married but no children

Married female doctor + husband cannot achieve get household income of RM20k?

most family nowadays get above RM10k house hold income. Thus consider T20 already....